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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:52pm On Nov 30, 2021
Robbstark.

Does it matter? These your arguments are beginning to sound exactly like the Benin own we used to hear concerning Anioma.

Benin would say the Anioma kings are dressed like Binis. The Anioma kings bear Bini names. The Anioma villages bear Bini names. The Anioma kings go to Bini to be crowned. The Anioma speak a type of Bini. Then you see some efulefu from Anioma on Nairaland here defending Bini stoutly. Bini this, Bini that. Bla bla bla.

It doesn't matter. Having some cultural influence doesn't mean the people are no longer Igbos. Jaja can name his children anything. The two towns are Igboland. This was how the Bini continued until we drilled it into their skulls. This days they don't talk that nonsense anymore. But I know it's unknown gunmen activities they are afraid of. The Anioma is no longer attractive to claim again.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:53pm On Nov 30, 2021
RobbStark:


How can you stay in your small town and speak for people far away who don't even identify themselves as ibo. How. ??
Are you by chance insinuating that we don't have ibos who are indigenes of those two towns in this forum.
Guy say something else.
Just do you know, I communicate with ibani wen I am in bonny.
They don't speak Ibo in Kalaibiama, finima name them.
Even in bonny main town, only strangers use Ibo come and see for yourself.
I can book LNG boat for you if you are scared of using the public one.


They don't speak Igbo right? Should I bring a screenshot for you?
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 10:58pm On Nov 30, 2021
Let me use this opportunity to divulge some information in Bonny that says some indigenes are turning on the king (Perekule) for sometime now. I'm not certain the cause of the issues yet.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by JANK23H(m): 11:03pm On Nov 30, 2021
SlayerForever:
Let me use this opportunity to divulge some information in Bonny that says some indigenes are turning on the king (Perekule) for sometime now. I'm not certain the cause of the issues yet.
Go and rest

The matter no dey tire you?
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by SlayerForever: 11:03pm On Nov 30, 2021
JANK23H:

Go and rest

The matter no dey tire you?


Hahaha
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 11:08pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:

Sometimes I wonder how you people reason.

If you are not a Shameless liar, you would have put the picture below into consideration before embarrassing yourself like this

You are the one embarrassing yourself.
Are there no ibos from Opobo or Bonny in this forum.
Or do you guys plan on driving everyone out of bonny n Opobo and start using the place cos I don't get it.
Maybe you are still dreaming of owning those places but I know it won't work for you guys .
Continue cruising, it's fun joining you guys

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by makemoneywbsite: 11:09pm On Nov 30, 2021
BKayy:
This AlexBells dude don't know much and his post is enough proof.

So all these write up is an attempt to override the more historical accurate thread by 9Pluto

Ekealterego, Slayerforever, Igboid and Eastlink. I don't know who people are seeing when you look at this AlexBells but what I am seeing is an enemy of the Igbo nation. Someone moulded in the likeness of Joe Igbokwe.

I thought I'm the only one that has noticed that: the chap is a suave wily snake whose intention is to bring opprobrium to Ndigbo. He might be a member of BMC and subtly seeks to worm himself into the Igbo circles while his intentions are no less malicious towards Ndigbo. I noticed this from his first few posts that try to circumvent issues when the truth favors Ndigbo while subtly promoting anti-Igbo sentiments in a most diplomatic and yet detached manner. I seriously doubt he is Igbo. Very evil chap. I can bet he is in the payroll of the same chap financing the Udele vulture guy. Are you telling me that someone who is responsibly employed would have time for all these daily epistles with subject around Ndigbo and with the intent at minifying our tribe?

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:17pm On Nov 30, 2021
RobbStark:


To start with there is nothing like Ibo nation.
Don't call your community a nation yet.

Let's assume you and I are close friends, and I have a question won't you answer........

Have you met any Ibo man from Opobo or Bonny, ??
I mean someone who can beat his chest and say he is an Ibo man from bonny or Opobo.
Is it too difficult to answer.

I dey wait for the answer like this ooooo

If you are not an Ijaw migrant mugu, i wonder what else you are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYOOWbKeFB8
OPOBO:You Wouldn't Believe This Is Igbo Dialect Spoken In Opobo Rivers State.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HG7omHI1gY
OPOBO NWATAM 2020/2021/OPOBO AT 150 CELEBRATION

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by 9Pluto(m): 11:21pm On Nov 30, 2021
My dear OP @AlexBells,

Thank you for taking out such enormous amount of time to put up that post. While it may have been informative to some people. It didn't really do much for me for certain reasons.

Let me quickly point out that your headline is misleading for the content you dished out. For someone from Bonny or Opobo, you did not provide any insight. You just came up and declared Bonny is of a mixly owned heritage and Opobo is purely igbo. How? On whose authority. You also came up with an academic write up about the Portuguese era in Africa(without going into details) and in the same breath you are talking about King Jaja of Opobo who was born centuries later.

My post in the other thread were not mere conjectures from my fantasies or folktales I was told.
The reason for even starting that thread was to discover/prove why there are native igbos (via language and culture) in Bonny and Opobo yet some of them are always made to believe that they are ijaws or at worse were descendants of freed igbo slaves the ijaws were trading in. To help give context to why Bonny and Opobo seem to be the only post slavery port where the natives speak a dialect of the igbo language. A language that was being taught in schools in these places until the civil war. I was trying to make sense of why the people of Bonny and Opobo are being subjected to the arduous task of acquiring a second native language by compulsion.

My reference which seems to be one of the oldest was from the Memoirs of a British Captain named Hugh Crow of Liverpool. His record was not a mere academic exercise or an attempt to fill up historical gaps. It was a record of a man who came, saw and conquered Bonny for over a decade. He went into atomic details of what life was like in Bonny of 200 years ago. He painstakingly documented the people he met and did business with for about 10 years. Their culture and tradition, their world view, their believe and religion, physique including complexion, their attitude/character including their demeanor. He specified some of their common names. He wrote a dictionary of their language. He documented their healthcare system, marriage, funeral etc. He talked about the ethnic identity of the Kings he transacted business with, the natives he met and there national symbols or identity. He mentioned the people who own slaves and gave an instance of how one could become a slave.

After reading his account of over 300 pages, I couldn't ask for more.
Crow was a man who knew what he was talking about.

I came to a conclusion(which I won't repeat here) on the identity of Bonny and Opobo people based on that literature which several other kind people have supported with other literatures and not even one has countered the assertions he made.

In that thread we made sure all and every outlandish claim had a supporting literature.

So I am still trying to understand what question(s) this thread is trying to answer.

Be kind to provide readers with the details (name and date) of whatever literature you reference.

Thanks.


P.S: I do not hold or bear any grudges with anyone based on whichever the side of the debate you pick on and I am open to further learning on the original thread as this would be my last post on this thread.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 11:24pm On Nov 30, 2021
FallenShitHole:


If you are not an Ijaw migrant mugu, i wonder what else you are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYOOWbKeFB8
OPOBO:You Wouldn't Believe This Is Igbo Dialect Spoken In Opobo Rivers State.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HG7omHI1gY
OPOBO NWATAM 2020/2021/OPOBO AT 150 CELEBRATION




Mumu, I said show me a man who claims to be Ibo and from Opobo or Bonny.
Not what they speak.
I can go to Akoko Edo in Edo state and they speak Yoruba there.
Shud I now generalized it that all of them are Yorubas.

I am waiting
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by OfoIgbo: 11:25pm On Nov 30, 2021
AlexBells:
I'm compelled to make this post on a crucial issue that had boxed me to a Corner and no matter how much I try to avoid it people drag me to it, this could be a long read.

This situation is really important to me, I made a post earlier concerning Opobo and Bonny hinting that at sometimes in history the Ijaws sold the Igbos to slavery many Igbos came for me in a very brutal way using so much heavy language on me, I thought it was good to stay out for a while by spending more time in the romance session but people keep dragging me to these posts, the fact is that apart from being an aspiring politician and Strategist, I'm human.

I wanted to let the issue slide but it is hurting my credibility it is really hurting me, I had to speak to one of my mentors about it and below is my complaint to him and his reply

My Message to My Mentor:
Good Day Sir, something is quite affecting my popularity and it got a bit to do with history,

The Igbo nation has two contested territories of Opobo and Bonny, my movement had been a lot careful that between the two towns I included 1 of them in the bonafide territory of AlaIgbo while leaving the second one out for now to avoid unneeded tension since my province can work just fine with one of the two territories as we are still in Nigeria and if Nigeria is not dividing anytime soon there is no need to get fighting for territories.

These two territories are very significant as our other rivals are supporting the other nationality that we are contesting the territories with in a bid to limit our sea access as the two territories in question have ample sea access but to us, this issue is beyond access to the sea as the two towns have serious history with Igbos and huge presence of indigenous Igbo, in fact, Igbo language and culture is the most prominent there.

But I made an assertion that the Ijaw people (the nationality that we are contesting the territories with) by virtue of the fact that they had earlier access to the outside world sold our people to slavery as we are further interior, my people thought that my statement was derogatory in saying that the Ijaws aided in kidnap and sold our people to slavery,

But accounts can relate to someone like king Jaja of Opobo who was a formal slave and Olaudah Equiano, the fact is that trying to prove these points back to the Portuguese slave merchants seems to me like washing our dirty lining in public but my people is making me look less credible and historically unfit,

The whole defence account they are using is the more recent accounts by British colonialists but that's not the reliable accounts of slavery as during the British influence, slavery had declined and subsequently abolished and most accounts were on trades,

I don't know if I should dig deeper, I don't quite want to dig up hate inspiring memories but my own credibility is in line and they are making me question my own sanity as people who had been opposed to me now use it to insinuate that I'm anti Igbo

I, however, prefer compromise to confrontation that's why I need truth, I can't understand Portuguese nor know much about their accounts but I need to dig deeper and much later sponsor an archeological research to ascertain the earliest settlers on the two towns.

My Mentor's Reply:
Whilst it will be interesting to find out the historical truth this is often not entirely possible. You end up doing a lot of work, find out a lot of things but come to no satisfactory conclusion as precise evidence is missing. Part of my own background is like that. We were `galloglas', that is Scottish soldiers who served Irish kings in the medieval period. The role of galloglas is disputed as they are either seen as Scottish interlopers in Ireland or Scottish guarantees of continued Irish independence. We have a saying `you pays your money and makes your choice'. I have no opinion on the matter other than that people had to make a living as best they could in those days.

It might not be worth following this issue through if it causes you other difficulties. Historical slavery is a horrible issue to deal with in politics and I don't think anyone has found a satisfactory way of resolving the resentments it causes. It is truly an issue best left to the academic historians to examine in fine detail to establish a context which everyone can work with. It is an issue which can easily leave you with egg on your face.

Might I suggest you establish a narrative which accommodates the main points on which everyone is agreed. Yes, bad things happened but not everyone wanted these things to happen and it was only done by foolish people. Something like that. A case for political dissimulation; you obscure to achieve clarity. I know it sounds daft, but in politics your integrity is more important. Try to put yourself in the shoes of your critics. This will help you to find the best way forward.

Many years ago when I was younger than you are now a major political figure in the UK gave me some sound advice. The first was to do your own research and the second was when you find yourself in a hole stop digging any further. You have done the first and I applaud that, but the conclusions have tipped you into a hole. Find the best way to climb out of it and move on.

Now The Situation is Such that I had found myself in a hole so I have to get out by presenting valid arguments
Now like you know I'm a young politician and the majority is always right so I am not presenting these accounts to discredit or challenge anybody but to get myself off the hole.

I will start with the account given by 9Pluto which happened to be the most recent, the account was written by Captain Hugh Crow of Liverpool (1765-1829), the first contact with Portegues by the Benin and other more coastal people especially the Ijaws was as far back as 1484 over two centuries before Captain Hugh Crow was born, the portegues João Afonso de Aveiro arrived the shores of what is today known as Southern Nigeria, we need to understand that the Portuguese wielded influence in the Nigerian coastal towns long before the British arrival.

While the Aros raided slaves in the hinterland, the Aros was not trading directly with the whites rather they exchanged the salves with Ijaw merchants which in return for their supplies, why I opined that the Ijaws was more in control of the Bonny slave port. There were three major slave ports within the Eastern corridor 1. Itsekiri 2. Calabar 3. Bonny The Itseiri was used mostly by Benin, Calabar by the coastal people of Akwa Ibom and Cross River and Bonny Mostly by Ijaws, the Aros supplied these people leveraging the huge population of Igbo land so the Aros never sold Directly to the Portuguese, this fact would be corroborated later by king Jaja because, in the true sense of it, Jaja was transacting in the business of his Ijaw buyers although he later regained his freedom, found his own territory where he became king.

The Bight of Biafra was named by the Portegues and not the British so long before the British arrived things had been going on, The issue of Opobo and Bonny can't be fixed by mere history it is either compromise or the exhibition of might and while I would advocate that Opobo is undeniably Igbo, Bonny is a hybrid town which would require a referendum or full-scale invasion, Opobo, however, won't be debated as it is as Igbo as Orlu.

Having clarified myself, I wish to concentrate more on politics, strategy and solving real problems, however, I am an Igbo man and it is quite really hard to debate along because sometimes we are too ashamed of some aspect of our history that we seem to attack anyone that brings such reality to light but everyone in their history has some terrible times and it was the call of the time, I hope people also understand that using strong words on me would make me eventually withdrawn this is because I'm Igbo and disagreeing with my own people which happen to be my support base would hurt my politics and the support of my people is not what I want to trade to win flimsy arguments.

9Pluto
SlayerForever
BKayy
Ekealterego
Fejoku
OfoIgbo
Igboid
afonjaheadhunts





Your attachment proves nothing because Ndoki people are not Aro people.

Ndoki people that became Ubani citizens, were also Deltans, after all they lived in the Niger Delta

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:33pm On Nov 30, 2021
9Pluto:
My dear OP @AlexBells,

Thank you for taking out that enormous amount of time to put up that post. While it may have been informative so some people. It didn't really do much for me for certain reasons.

Let me quickly point out that you headline is misleading for the content you dished out. For someone from Bonny or Opobo, you did not provide any insight. You just came up and declared Bonny is of a mixly owned heritage and Opobo is purely igbo. How? On whose authority. You also an academic write up about the Portuguese era in Africa(without going into details) and in the same breath you talking about King Jaja of Opobo.

My post in the other thread were not mere conjectures from my fantasies or folktales I was told.
The reason for even starting that thread was to discover/prove why there are natives igbo (via language and culture) in Bonny and Opobo yet they are always made to believe that are ijaws or at was descendants of freed igbo slaves the ijaws were trading in. To help give context to why Bonny and Opobo seem to be the only post slavery port where the natives speak a dialect of the igbo language. Are language that was being taught in schools in these places until the civil war. I was trying to make sense of why the people of Bonny and Opobo are being subjected to the arduous task of acquiring a second native language by compulsion.

My reference with seems to be one of the oldest was from the Memoirs of a British Captain named Hugh Crow of Liverpool. His record was not a mere academic exercise or an attempt to fill up historical gaps. It was a record of a man who came, saw and conquered Bonny for over a decade. He went into atomic details of what life was like in Bonny of 200 years ago. He painstakingly documented the people he met and did business with for about 10 years. Their culture and tradition, their world view, their believe and religion, physique including complexion, their attitude/character including their demeanor. He specified some of their common names. He wrote a dictionary of their language. He documented their healthcare system, marriage, funeral etc. He talked about the ethnic identity of the Kings he transacted business with, the natives he met and there national symbols or identity. He mentioned the people who own slaves and gave an instance of how one could become a slave.

After reading his account of over 300 pages, I couldn't ask for more.
Crow was a man who knew what he was talking about.

I came to a conclusion(which I won't repeat here) on the identity of Bonny and Opobo people based on that literature which several other kind people have supported with other literatures and not even one has countered the assertions he made.

In that thread we made sure all an every outlandish claim had a supporting literature.

So I am still trying to understand what question(s) this thread is trying to answer.

Be kind to provide readers with the details (name and date) of whatever literature you reference.

Thanks.


P.S: I do not hold or bear any grudges with anyone based on whichever the side of the debate pick on and I am open to further learning.
I didn't want to reply to anything but I would reply yours, if you noticed I did not make any reply to your post, earlier I tried to stay out but my getting at least 3 mention from the post all being too mean,

First as regards this post, I said Opobo is as Igboland as Orlu because King Jaja and his Ijaw crew migrated there just a while ago, where there no natives when they arrived?,

I said Bonny is a hybrid town which you also attested to, then the people who mentioned me in the previous thread was talking in references to other post I made earlier where I said despite that Ijaws sold Igbos in the past, there could be potential chance of having a country together.

Then most of the people who mentioned me in the post was making references to that my earlier assertion, I have no problem with your population, I only have problems with mean people trying to rubbish my credibility because I'm not saying exactly what they want to hear,

The British account can describe people but we need to acknowledge that slavery was on over 2 centuries before the coming of British, i did not doubt their description but history or not, Opobo either gets a peaceful option or a violent option
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:39pm On Nov 30, 2021
OfoIgbo:



Your attachment proves nothing because Ndoki people are not Aro people.

Ndoki people that became Ubani citizens, were also Deltans, after all they lived in the Niger Delta
My argument is not on who is Aro and who is Ndoki, my argument is, where there ever a time when the Ijaws facilitated the sales of an Igbo slave ?
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:39pm On Nov 30, 2021
Seriously, I can't make out the head or tail of this thread.
What exactly is this thread about?

Alexbells comes across to me like one with what I call "controlled madness".
Meaningless threads meant to create diversion or water down the importance of pertinent issues.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:41pm On Nov 30, 2021
AlexBells:

I didn't want to reply to anything but I would reply yours, if you noticed I did not make any reply to your post, earlier I tried to stay out but my getting at least 3 mention from the post all being too mean,

First as regards this post, I said Opobo is as Igboland as Orlu because King Jaja and his Ijaw crew migrated there just a while ago, where there no natives when they arrived?,

I said Bonny is a hybrid town which you also attested to, then the people who mentioned me in the previous thread was talking in references to other post I made earlier where I said despite that Ijaws sold Igbos in the past, there could be potential chance of having a country together.

Then most of the people who mentioned me in the post was making references to that my earlier assertion, I have no problem with your population, I only have problems with mean people trying to rubbish my credibility because I'm not saying exactly what they want to hear,

The British account can describe people but we need to acknowledge that slavery was on over 2 centuries before the coming of British, i did not doubt their description but history or not, Opobo either gets a peaceful option or a violent option

What's exactly your point?
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:42pm On Nov 30, 2021
FallenShitHole:


If you are not an Ijaw migrant mugu, i wonder what else you are.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYOOWbKeFB8
OPOBO:You Wouldn't Believe This Is Igbo Dialect Spoken In Opobo Rivers State.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HG7omHI1gY
OPOBO NWATAM 2020/2021/OPOBO AT 150 CELEBRATION




The first video, the guy's Igbo towards the end of the video is so clear.
Thanks for sharing.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Igboid: 11:46pm On Nov 30, 2021
But I made an assertion that the Ijaw people (the nationality that we are contesting the territories with) by virtue of the fact that they had earlier access to the outside world sold our people to slavery as we are further interior, my people thought that my statement was derogatory in saying that the Ijaws aided in kidnap and sold our people to slavery,

No Ijaw person sold any Igbo to slavery.
King Pepple, of Bonny was both Igbo and Igbo speaking.
King Jaja was Igbo speaking.

So which Ijaw person are you speaking of?

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:47pm On Nov 30, 2021
RobbStark:


Mumu, I said show me a man who claims to be Ibo and from Opobo or Bonny.
Not what they speak.
I can go to Akoko Edo in Edo state and they speak Yoruba there.
Shud I now generalized it that all of them are Yorubas.

I am waiting
You are even dafter and dumber than i thought.
Read about Dr. Tina Edmunds-OGBUOKIRI.
Do you know who is Dakuku Peterside?
They are proud Igbos of Opobo.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:49pm On Nov 30, 2021
AlexBells:

My argument is not on who is Aro and who is Ndoki, my argument is, where there ever a time when the Ijaws facilitated the sales of an Igbo slave ?
Your argument is daft. Would you know how many Ijaws that the Aro Igbos sold into slavery?
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 11:51pm On Nov 30, 2021
AlexBells:

I didn't want to reply to anything but I would reply yours, if you noticed I did not make any reply to your post, earlier I tried to stay out but my getting at least 3 mention from the post all being too mean,

First as regards this post, I said Opobo is as Igboland as Orlu because King Jaja and his Ijaw crew migrated there just a while ago, where there no natives when they arrived?,

I said Bonny is a hybrid town which you also attested to, then the people who mentioned me in the previous thread was talking in references to other post I made earlier where I said despite that Ijaws sold Igbos in the past, there could be potential chance of having a country together.

Then most of the people who mentioned me in the post was making references to that my earlier assertion, I have no problem with your population, I only have problems with mean people trying to rubbish my credibility because I'm not saying exactly what they want to hear,

The British account can describe people but we need to acknowledge that slavery was on over 2 centuries before the coming of British, i did not doubt their description but history or not, Opobo either gets a peaceful option or a violent option

Why are you this daft and dumb? Read the bolded again. Slaves taken from the hinterlands to Bonny in numbers were as a result of the British ready buyers who came in later. There were no reasons for slaves to be moved in numbers from the hinterlands to Bonny or Opobo lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. This points to the fact that Igbos already occupy those lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. You seems to appear dumber and still digging.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by OfoIgbo: 11:55pm On Nov 30, 2021
9Pluto
SlayerForever
BKayy
Ekealterego
Fejoku
OfoIgbo
Igboid
afonjaheadhunts

Please let us get back to the thread created by 9Pluto

Ignore this one. It is an attempt by the Ijaws to kill a thr we that is packed full of information nuggets on Bonny and Opobo origins

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 11:58pm On Nov 30, 2021
Igboid:


No Ijaw person sold any Igbo to slavery.
King Pepple, of Bonny was both Igbo and Igbo speaking.
King Jaja was Igbo speaking.

So which Ijaw person are you speaking of?
I honestly really didn't want to reply you becuase I don't think someone with controlled madness can make a statement worth replying, meanwhile was people and Jaja the only kings, and when are we talking about and is the Jaja not technically a slave ?

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by AlexBells(m): 12:00am On Dec 01, 2021
FallenShitHole:


Why are you this daft and dumb? Read the bolded again. Slaves taken from the hinterlands to Bonny in numbers were as a result of the British ready buyers who came in later. There were no reasons for slaves to be moved in numbers from the hinterlands to Bonny or Opobo lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. This points to the fact that Igbos already occupy those lands before the coming of the British slave buyers. You seems to appear dumber and still digging.
You are talking about British while I'm talking about Portugues, centuries apart
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:15am On Dec 01, 2021
AlexBells:
I'm compelled to make this post on a crucial issue that had boxed me to a Corner and no matter how much I try to avoid it people drag me to it, this could be a lo


Mr Politician, history is not for everyone focus on being a politician so you don't end up being both a failed historian and politician at the same time, I just pity the community you represent because another Joe Yorubakwe is loading. Tueh.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:31am On Dec 01, 2021
AlexBells:
I'm compelled to make this post on a crucial issue that had boxed me to a Corner and no matter how much I try to avoid it people drag me to it, this could be a long read.


Mr Politician it appears you don't even read your own document. grin funny man grin grin grin

Please provide any literature or document from the Portuguese era under review that mentions ijos in any scope whatever and not just making silly assumptions, heck the document you even provided even mentioned Akwacross groups and Igbo groups with no Ijos in view yet you still criminally made the thread about Ijos, when everything in Ithe writeup are your mere assumptions and postulation. I told you Ijos have never been relevant in history until jaja.

Ijaws only made history twice one was when an Igbo slave Ruled over them second was when Jonathan became president and both history had Igbo written over it I don't know why you can't let that sink into your head. Abi dem use false history swear for you. Tueh

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 12:45am On Dec 01, 2021
AlexBells:

You are talking about British while I'm talking about Portugues, centuries apart

plz provide the link and the full article, the name of the explorer and the initial portuguese language used in writing down the records i will wait tnx.

Igboid.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by FallenShitHole: 12:48am On Dec 01, 2021
bomb24:


plz provide the link and the full article, the name of the explorer and the initial portuguese language used in writing down the records i will wait tnx.

Igboid.



Please don't wait for that dungeon politician. He can't provide any link, article or name of such Portuguese explorer.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 12:49am On Dec 01, 2021
afonjaheadhunts:


Mr Politician it appears you don't even read your own document. grin funny man grin grin grin

Please provide any literature or document from the Portuguese era under review that mentions ijos in any scope whatever and not just making silly assumptions, heck the document you even provided even mentioned Akwacross groups and Igbo groups with no Ijos in view yet you still criminally made the thread about Ijos, when everything in Ithe writeup are your mere assumptions and postulation. I told you Ijos have never been relevant in history until jaja.

Ijaws only made history twice one was when an Igbo slave Ruled over them second was when Jonathan became president and both history had Igbo written over it I don't know why you can't let that sink into your head. Abi dem use false history swear for you. Tueh

lolzz me and you must be in the same line of thought i just asked him to provide the full article, the name of the explorer and the initial records and documentation written in portuguese.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by afonjaheadhunts: 12:53am On Dec 01, 2021
Igboid:
Seriously, I can't make out the head or tail of this thread.
What exactly is this thread about?

Alexbells comes across to me like one with what I call "controlled madness".
Meaningless threads meant to create diversion or water down nothe importance of pertinent issues.

Alexbells is to Igbos what musiwa is to Yoruba and what Diatri is to Ijaws.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by bomb24: 1:05am On Dec 01, 2021
FallenShitHole:

Please don't wait for that dungeon politician. He can't provide any link, article or name of such Portuguese explorer.

The self-acclaimed politician just dugged up some shit and termed it earlier portuguese merchants documentation without basic facts to prove his claim. he could have put these facts into consideration before opening these thread.

1) the portuguese never used english language in documentations rather dey used portuguese, so were is the initially portuguese documentation so we can do our own research and translation.?

2) who was the portuguese explorer.?

to my own broad understanding the portugals were never interested in anthropology in the lower naija but were there for strict business.
Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by Fejoku: 7:09am On Dec 01, 2021
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AlexBells:

I didn't want to reply to anything but I would reply yours, if you noticed I did not make any reply to your post, earlier I tried to stay out but my getting at least 3 mention from the post all being too mean,

First as regards this post, I said Opobo is as Igboland as Orlu because King Jaja and his Ijaw crew migrated there just a while ago, where there no natives when they arrived?,

I said Bonny is a hybrid town which you also attested to, then the people who mentioned me in the previous thread was talking in references to other post I made earlier where I said despite that Ijaws sold Igbos in the past, there could be potential chance of having a country together.

Then most of the people who mentioned me in the post was making references to that my earlier assertion, I have no problem with your population, I only have problems with mean people trying to rubbish my credibility because I'm not saying exactly what they want to hear,

The British account can describe people but we need to acknowledge that slavery was on over 2 centuries before the coming of British, i did not doubt their description but history or not, Opobo either gets a peaceful option or a violent option
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You think you're smart but your very far from it. I deliberately invoked you in that thread future sake and you didn't disappoint. In your response to my message, you claimed to prefer staying back to learn since you don't know much about the whole affair but here you are now starting a thread to write on what you claimed not to know much about. We all can see that no one should take you seriously. Here are facts that nailed you to the wall for all to peruse.
1. You are not Igbo and do not stand for the good of Ndigbo.
2. You're an agent with a very sinister plan. That plan has failed already because you've been found out.
3. You actually know very little about this subject matter and it's best you remain silent and learn. It would be easier to learn with an open mind but then you never came here with an open mind.
Some of us have access to critical documents on this subject. We won't bring them out until the right time.
Finally, any career that hinges its success on the spiting and tearing down of Ndigbo will die. It's best you back track from your ignoble mission because if you don't, you will live to regret it.

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Re: The Bight Of Biafra Has Answers To Bonny And Opobo Regarding Igbo And Ijaw by RobbStark(m): 9:08am On Dec 01, 2021
FallenShitHole:

You are even dafter and dumber than i thought.
Read about Dr. Tina Edmunds-OGBUOKIRI.
Do you know who is Dakuku Peterside?
They are proud Igbos of Opobo.

You are worse than I first thought.
Dakuku told you he was Ibo cos he was seeking for your votes which he failed woefully to get and you are here foaming in the mouth for the words of a politician.

Come, boy, don't quote me again if you don't have any body to show me.

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