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Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Hermes119: 10:21pm On Dec 18, 2021
Steep:
when the children continue in the sins of their forefathers then they bare the iniquities of their forefathers.
Lols
I) When the children continue in the sins of their forefathers they should bear the consequences the sins,the forefathers must have bore theirs. That is how the world works
2) The Amalekites that were destroyed in Ist Samuel did not continue in the sins of their forefathers, rather God destroyed them for the sins committed by their forefathers
Thanks

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Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Nobody: 6:12am On Dec 19, 2021
Hermes119:

Lols
I) When the children continue in the sins of their forefathers they should bear the consequences the sins,the forefathers must have bore theirs. That is how the world works
2) The Amalekites that were destroyed in Ist Samuel did not continue in the sins of their forefathers, rather God destroyed them for the sins committed by their forefathers
Thanks

I need your financial assistance
Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Steep(m): 6:51am On Dec 19, 2021
Hermes119:

Lols
I) When the children continue in the sins of their forefathers they should bear the consequences the sins,the forefathers must have bore theirs. That is how the world works
2) The Amalekites that were destroyed in Ist Samuel did not continue in the sins of their forefathers, rather God destroyed them for the sins committed by their forefathers
Thanks
The world does not work like that, you can suffer because of your parents action or inaction.
When people vote in bad government everyone bear the consequences.

Judges 3:13 And he gathered unto him the children of Ammon and Amalek, and went and smote Israel, and possessed the city of palm trees.

Judges 6:3 And so it was, when Israel had sown, that the Midianites came up, and the Amalekites, and the children of the east, even they came up against them;

1 Samuel 14:48 And he gathered an host, and smote the Amalekites, and delivered Israel out of the hands of them that spoiled them.

For God to recall the sin of the father it means one thing, that the children continue in the path of their fathers.
Re: A Challenge For Atheists by jalodo2: 7:48am On Dec 19, 2021
Crystyano:


I need your financial assistance
You should be offered jobs or things to do, instead of sitting somewhere, crossing ur legs and cashing out on peoples sweat. You said u are jobless, homeless, penniless, but still all ur family burden is on YOU, guess ur family think u are Dangote
Let assume ur stories are true, aint u suppose to dig urself out before attempting to dig ur family? Imagine, looking for money to send to ur brother in prison,for what?? Whoever believes ur " brother in prison" bullshit story and feels like helping should follow u to d prison. U are now sending e=mails to people to donate money to an able bodied man who chose begging as career, changing monikers at will.
Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Nobody: 9:15am On Dec 19, 2021
jalodo2:
You should be offered jobs or things to do, instead of sitting somewhere, crossing ur legs and cashing out on peoples sweat. You said u are jobless, homeless, penniless, but still all ur family burden is on YOU, guess ur family think u are Dangote
Let assume ur stories are true, aint u suppose to dig urself out before attempting to dig ur family? Imagine, looking for money to send to ur brother in prison,for what?? Whoever believes ur " brother in prison" bullshit story and feels like helping should follow u to d prison. U are now sending e=mails to people to donate money to an able bodied man who chose begging as career, changing monikers at will.



Say that again
Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Myer(m): 9:25am On Dec 19, 2021
johnydon22:


There are fundamental flaws in your assumptions about morality as held by atheists. You have to first understand that the idea of morality as a God-centered enterprise is majorly an Abrahamic idea, at least in the modern sense. Most cultures developed moral values and ideas without basing these ideas of the authority of God punishing or rewarding certain actions.

So, someone not believing in God is not mutually exclusive with them having firm moral beliefs.

I do not know what you mean by good and evil being products of subatomic interactions, I am hoping you will explain that further

But here is how I will try convincing such a person: I will appeal to their rationality, practicality and curiosity.

1. Rationality: Detonating the nuke serves no purpose to him, so what would it matter to him to detonate it?
2. Practical: He has family members, friends whom I assume he deeply cares about. Why would he want to remove the choice to either live or die from those whom he confesses to love?
3. Curiosity: Assuming that such a person is a nihilist as your post seems to imply, even a nihilist can be curious. We have both seen the scientific wonders, architectural and technological marvels human has been capable of in the last century, wouldn't you like to find out where it is all going? What comes next? Perhaps, you could hold off nuking everyone just yet.

So now OP, assuming this person believes in a God but is determined to nuke everyone, how would you convince them otherwise?

Very intelligent.
Nothing to add or remove.

The assumption that morality is lost to atheists is at best a product of religious brainwashing.
Re: A Challenge For Atheists by Steep(m): 7:10am On Dec 27, 2021
Steep:
Now, here is a challenge for atheists.

This is an hypothetical situation,
A man, Let's say Mr A, was able to somehow lay hold on a nuke that could destroy all humanity at a bottom, and he is determined to detonate it. How would you persuade such a person not to do it. Mind you he believes
1. There is no God neither any punishment for sins and misdeeds.
2 He believes the universe or multiverse is nothing else but ever changing forms of energies/energy.
3. Morality or what's not are all evolutionary construct to make so called higher organism to think life is special in other for organism like humans to continue to propagate.
4. Since love, hatred, good evil are all product of subatomic interactions, there is nothing really evil or good other than that that is determine by fundamental forces of nature.

How would you convince such a man not to push that button?

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