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If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 11:09pm On Dec 17, 2021
I just love Kaduna Nzeogwu
1. He didnt drink alcohol
2. He was an ardent Catholic
3. He prayed a lot
4. He didn't quite have a girlfriend
5. He didn't speak much
6. He was principled, believed in courage, honour and dignity
7. He died fighting

He sure did make some mistakes but my love for him remains unshaken, if I'm in a bus trip with Nzeogwu let's say we would travel to Kaduna together, that would be like a dream come true, I really wish it happened in an alternate universe and it would be March 1966,

I would ask him loads of questions like how he felt the night before the coup, many things to really ask, seriously, I honestly wished Nzeogwu avoided the war, I want to ask him why he fought with Biafra despite being from Midwest, I know Nzeogwu was long dead before he died, he really felt he caused the war, I try to understand he must be depressed at some point along the line.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Bkayyy: 11:45pm On Dec 17, 2021
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by shigishege: 11:52pm On Dec 17, 2021
I will always go with Obafemi Awolowo

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 12:13am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.
I don't care about getting the answers from any horses mouth that is Not Kaduna Nzeogwu, I had made it clearly I love Nzeogwu despite everything, if he wanted to fight from Midwest, he could have fought from Midwest, the only reason he was so involved was because he felt some guilt and he took responsibility and let me make something clear to you, wanting to preserve Nigeria is a personal choice and don't think you can ever trip anyone into going your aim, we are all entitled to our preferences, having said that, preserving or not preserving Nigeria is none of my damn business and so is fighting for Biafra, I'm entitled to my choices.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 12:16am On Dec 18, 2021
shigishege:
I will always go with Obafemi Awolowo
Well Awo was significant to Wrsterners but I will prefer Zik if the trip would be twice or if I have a choice of two companions then it shall be Nzeogwu and Zik

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Caboceer: 12:25am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.

Na wa for you

Buhari no dey drink too and e no dey fu-ck. He's warrior too, for ypur information

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Bkayyy: 12:39am On Dec 18, 2021
AlexBells:

I don't care about getting the answers from any horses mouth that is Not Kaduna Nzeogwu, I had made it clearly I love Nzeogwu despite everything, if he wanted to fight from Midwest, he could have fought from Midwest, the only reason he was so involved was because he felt some guilt and he took responsibility and let me make something clear to you, wanting to preserve Nigeria is a personal choice and don't think you can ever trip anyone into going your aim, we are all entitled to our preferences, having said that, preserving or not preserving Nigeria is none of my damn business and so is fighting for Biafra, I'm entitled to my choices.
Nzeogwu realised at the denying minute that Nigeria is not worth the sacrifice him and his colleagues paid with the coup.
When the war started he aligned with his Nation, the Igbo nation. That's why he crossed the artificial boundary of Eastern and Midwest regions to identify with his Nation and the allies of his nation (Ibibio, Efik etc) that are facing the same threat.

As for your view on Nigeria, I don't know if you have realised that right now Ndigbo are at the verge of understanding that what matters is not ancestry but ideology. Ancestry plays a huge part but Ideology supercedes it. One can't use his Igbo ancestry as immunity to sabotage the interest of Igbo nation.

Technically, when looking at you, I see no difference between you, Udele and Chukwuma Dike. You are all the same to me.
I am even more cautious or you three than the Sahel dwelling Nigerians.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Bastardlyrich: 12:45am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:

Nzeogwu realised at the denying minute that Nigeria is not worth the sacrifice him and his colleagues paid with the coup.
When the war started he aligned with his Nation, the Igbo nation. That's why he crossed the artificial boundary of Eastern and Midwest regions to identify with his Nation and the allies of his nation (Ibibio, Efik etc) that are facing the same threat.

As for your view on Nigeria, I don't know if you have realised that right now Ndigbo are at the verge of understanding that what matters is not ancestry but ideology. Ancestry plays a huge part but Ideology supercedes it. One can't use his Igbo ancestry as immunity to sabotage the interest of Igbo nation.

Technically, when looking at you, I see no difference between you, Udele and Chukwuma Dike. You are all the same to me.
I am even more cautious or you three than the Sahel dwelling Nigerians.
They are the once opening different threads that we ijaws hates igbos just to divide us in ss and se.
Claiming ijaw and insulting,all tribes except their belove Yoruba.
I want igbos to disregard those thread.because we are brothers.
Useless afonjas

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by olisaEze(m): 1:08am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.


Actually, the late Col. Joseph Achuzia aka Air-raid was from Asaba not Okpanam.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Laggafin: 1:13am On Dec 18, 2021
I'm learning good history here
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Kosoco(m): 1:20am On Dec 18, 2021
olisaEze:


Actually, the late Col. Joseph Achuzia aka Air-raid was from Asaba not Okpanam.
Asaba ibokwe

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by cazchi: 1:45am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.

Nwa Chukwu, i love you brother. We might cross paths one day and not even realize it, but wherever you are i wish you all the best! One day, we will celebrate our Nation Biafra and we will rejoice! Nzeogwu, Air Raid, Nwobosi, Onwuatuegwu, Effiong, Ojukwu, Nwawo, Gbulie and many more were strong men that fought for good!

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by christistruth01: 2:01am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.


Akintola was murdered not Caprured

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by gidgiddy: 2:34am On Dec 18, 2021
Nzeogwu and other mid-level officers felt Nigeria was drifting and intervened, thats what all military officers say anyway after conducting a coup

One good thing about Nzeogwu is that he never got involved in the coup because of power and wealth, like all other future Nigerian military coup plotters. However, Nzeogwu should never have conducted that coup. Military coup is a horrible thing because once Soldiers get into power, they dont like to get out.

There are two things I must correct here, Nzeogwu did not cause the war. Most countries in Africa went through military coups like Nigeria did, but none fought war over it. The war did not start until 18 months after Nzeogwu's coup, so he was not the one who started the war. The war started because Gowon refused to honour the agreement he signed in Aburi, Ghana

As for Nzeogwu fighting for Biafra, why wouldn't he? He was an Igbo man. Nzeogwu was from Okpanam in todays Delta state. Okpanam people like others such as Asaba, Ibusar and other parts of the Igbo speaking part of Delta state, sometimes called "Anioma" have never denied being Igbo

It wasnt just Nzeogwu from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra, there were many others like

Brigadier Nwawo
Brigadier Okwechime
Colonel Ochei
Colonel Joe Achuzia
Colonel Chude Sokei
Lt Colonel Isichei
Major Albert Okonkwo
Major Ben Odogwu


All from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra. Infact, Navy Captain Anuku from Abavo in Anioma areas, was Commander of the Biafran Navy. For them, they were Igbo and fought for their people just like Nzeogwu

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Nobody: 2:42am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:

Nzeogwu realised at the denying minute that Nigeria is not worth the sacrifice him and his colleagues paid with the coup.
When the war started he aligned with his Nation, the Igbo nation. That's why he crossed the artificial boundary of Eastern and Midwest regions to identify with his Nation and the allies of his nation (Ibibio, Efik etc) that are facing the same threat.

As for your view on Nigeria, I don't know if you have realised that right now Ndigbo are at the verge of understanding that what matters is not ancestry but ideology. Ancestry plays a huge part but Ideology supercedes it. One can't use his Igbo ancestry as immunity to sabotage the interest of Igbo nation.

Technically, when looking at you, I see no difference between you, Udele and Chukwuma Dike. You are all the same to me.
I am even more cautious or you three than the Sahel dwelling Nigerians.

This is a big lie, actually he regretted ever aligning himself with biafrans. He wrote a letter to Obasanjo dreaming of Nigerian unity and planning to build a Nigerian army inside biafra.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 7:26am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:

Nzeogwu realised at the denying minute that Nigeria is not worth the sacrifice him and his colleagues paid with the coup.
When the war started he aligned with his Nation, the Igbo nation. That's why he crossed the artificial boundary of Eastern and Midwest regions to identify with his Nation and the allies of his nation (Ibibio, Efik etc) that are facing the same threat.

As for your view on Nigeria, I don't know if you have realised that right now Ndigbo are at the verge of understanding that what matters is not ancestry but ideology. Ancestry plays a huge part but Ideology supercedes it. One can't use his Igbo ancestry as immunity to sabotage the interest of Igbo nation.

Technically, when looking at you, I see no difference between you, Udele and Chukwuma Dike. You are all the same to me.
I am even more cautious or you three than the Sahel dwelling Nigerians.
What makes you think that you know what's best for the Igbo nation, you are talking about ideology, what particular ideology is greater than self preservation, the Igbo nation is currently traumatised that's all, when we were sober, everyone knows that a devolved Nigeria is better,

All of you opportunist are just using some really unfortunate situation to drive your agenda filled with propaganda, what solution do you have for the Igbo nation and let me tell you one thing, Nzeogwu fighting by Biafra was a huge mistake, I don't even rate Achuzie anywhere but that's personal for now.

The thing is, truth is the best, does it mean Nzeogwu fighting from the Midwest command could have made him less Igbo, Nzeogwu in particular was stupid and those are really why I wish I could have some time with him, he was just too passionate and like I said he felt guilty becuase Nzeogwu was a deep person,

Let me make something clear to you, you use very dubious propaganda to trick little minds, so he must fight with Biafra to prove that he was Igbo, he can as well fight from Midwest to prove he was Igbo, meanwhile if he fought from Midwest he could have had his own command something Ojukwu had refused him, he could have matched to Kaduna with full support, Bulshit, Nzeogwu fighting in Biafra didn't make him anymore less or more Igbo

Forget Achuzie, they call him air raid for a reason which I see as apparently insensitive besides those were good in Ojukwus good book, next time don't ever make the mistake of thinking that fronting unreasonable propaganda to please shallow minds are anything of a worry to me, I had told you that you are not more Igbo than any Aniomas or any other Igbo based on preference, days of those silly propaganda is over,

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 7:35am On Dec 18, 2021
gidgiddy:
Nzeogwu and other mid-level officers felt Nigeria was drifting and intervened, thats what all military officers say anyway after conducting a coup

One good thing about Nzeogwu is that he never got involved in the coup because of power and wealth, like all other future Nigerian military coup plotters. However, Nzeogwu should never have conducted that coup. Military coup is a horrible thing because once Soldiers get into power, they dont like to get out.

There are two things I must correct here, Nzeogwu did not cause the war. Most countries in Africa went through military coups like Nigeria did, but none fought war over it. The war did not start until 18 months after Nzeogwu's coup, so he was not the one who started the war. The war started because Gowon refused to honour the agreement he signed in Aburi, Ghana

As for Nzeogwu fighting for Biafra, why wouldn't he? He was an Igbo man. Nzeogwu was from Okpanam in todays Delta state. Okpanam people like others such as Asaba, Ibusar and other parts of the Igbo speaking part of Delta state, sometimes called "Anioma" have never denied being Igbo

It wasnt just Nzeogwu from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra, there were many others like

Brigadier Nwawo
Brigadier Okwechime
Colonel Ochei
Colonel Joe Achuzia
Colonel Chude Sokei
Lt Colonel Isichei
Major Albert Okonkwo
Major Ben Odogwu


All from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra. Infact, Navy Captain Anuku from Abavo in Anioma areas, was Commander of the Biafran Navy. For them, they were Igbo and fought for their people just like Nzeogwu
Admit that Nzeogwu made a mistake from Military point of view, he was not supposed to fight with Biafra but he felt terrible if he didn't get involved, during the time of the war, Nzeogwu was already a popular Soldier so I don't see why he should let Ojukwu bully him even when he can easily go back to Midwest and start a campaign there,

Midwest was neutral and Ojukwu even took hold of it for a day, if Nzeogwu and all those other guys you mentioned mounted a hold in the Midwest, Ojukwu could not have had any other option than to match North, I don't wonder anymore why Biafra lost, look at how sentimental everyone is about a war,

So the only way to prove being Igbo is to show direct solidarity with Biafra, meanwhile the time all Aniomas left, Nigerian army came to Anioma and conducted the gruesome Asaba massacre, well I don't blame anyone who fights war from propaganda standpoint

I just say I really wish I have a time with Kaduna Nzeogwu, seriously we could have raised an army in midwest and make sure Ojukwu never thought of crossing Asaba, the Niger bridge could not have blown up, we could take care of west while Ojukwu and the East take care of North, Ojukwu was a lawyer afterall, Bulshit
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by BafanaBafana: 8:09am On Dec 18, 2021
Nzeogwu was a fine soldier. He loved Nigeria and was an idealist who dreamt of a better country.
That was why he was deceived into a tribal coup thinking he was carrying out a revolution.
Even Gowon cried when he fell in battle and he was given a state burial despite fighting the state

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 9:01am On Dec 18, 2021
BafanaBafana:
Nzeogwu was a fine soldier. He loved Nigeria and was an idealist who dreamt of a better country.
That was why he was deceived into a tribal coup thinking he was carrying out a revolution.
Even Gowon cried when he fell in battle and he was given a state burial despite fighting the state
It was not deception actually, the fact is that the execution was filled with some miscalculations, there would have been no easy way for Igbo officers to execute fellow Igbos, they could have sent Northerners to execute the East, I wouldn't support the execution of MI Okpara but Zik could have been hunted down and executed with his friends, what else did Zik really achieve again after the coup
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 9:49am On Dec 18, 2021
christistruth01:



Akintola was murdered not Caprured
Akintola was supposed to be arrested but he opened fire
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by gidgiddy: 9:52am On Dec 18, 2021
AlexBells:

Admit that Nzeogwu made a mistake from Military point of view, he was not supposed to fight with Biafra but he felt terrible if he didn't get involved, during the time of the war, Nzeogwu was already a popular Soldier so I don't see why he should let Ojukwu bully him even when he can easily go back to Midwest and start a campaign there,

Midwest was neutral and Ojukwu even took hold of it for a day, if Nzeogwu and all those other guys you mentioned mounted a hold in the Midwest, Ojukwu could not have had any other option than to match North, I don't wonder anymore why Biafra lost, look at how sentimental everyone is about a war,

So the only way to prove being Igbo is to show direct solidarity with Biafra, meanwhile the time all Aniomas left, Nigerian army came to Anioma and conducted the gruesome Asaba massacre, well I don't blame anyone who fights war from propaganda standpoint

I just say I really wish I have a time with Kaduna Nzeogwu, seriously we could have raised an army in midwest and make sure Ojukwu never thought of crossing Asaba, the Niger bridge could not have blown up, we could take care of west while Ojukwu and the East take care of North, Ojukwu was a lawyer afterall, Bulshit

You are wrong. Asaba was in the midwest and in Nigeria, but Asaba people were still massacared because they were Igbos. Back then, it did matter if you were Eastern Igbo or midwest Igbo, if you were Igbo, you were the enemy. Nzeogwu was one of many midwest Igbos that fought for Biafra. Even Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's father, the late Obi of Ogwashiuku, Professor Okonjo, fought for Biafra. The great Brigadier Okonjo of the Biafran 11th Division
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 9:57am On Dec 18, 2021
gidgiddy:


You are wrong. Asaba was in the midwest and in Nigeria, but Asaba people were still massacared because they were Igbos. Back then, it did matter if you were Eastern Igbo or midwest Igbo, if you were Igbo, you were the enemy. Nzeogwu was one of many midwest Igbos that fought for Biafra. Even Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala's father, the late Obi of Ogwashiuku, Professor Okonjo, fought for Biafra. The great Brigadier Okonjo of the Biafran 11th Division
Midwest was not in Nigeria, listen to Aburi accord, Ojukwu graded North, West and then Lagos as being together by virtue of defeat of the West by the North, while East and Midwest was still concerned about the way about of Ironsi, Midwest was Nuetral and Ojukwu had the opportunity to overrun it still, Nigeria did not exist, according to Ojukwu "once the situation resolved to factions..."

So midwest was at best Nuetral still the body language was pro East at first, midwest was later defeated becuase the finest of Anioma soldiers was carelessly fighting in the East
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by gidgiddy: 10:13am On Dec 18, 2021
AlexBells:

Midwest was not in Nigeria, listen to Aburi accord, Ojukwu graded North, West and then Lagos as being together by virtue of defeat of the West by the North, while East and Midwest was still concerned about the way about of Ironsi, Midwest was Nuetral and Ojukwu had the opportunity to overrun it still, Nigeria did not exist, according to Ojukwu "once the situation resolved to factions..."

So midwest was at best Nuetral still the body language was pro East at first, midwest was later defeated becuase the finest of Anioma soldiers was carelessly fighting in the East


grin grin grin Midwest was not in Nigeria? Was it an independent country of its own? The Military Governor of the Midwest, Lt Colonel David Ejoor, was a Nigerian Military officer paid by the Nigerian government.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 10:18am On Dec 18, 2021
gidgiddy:



grin grin grin Midwest was not in Nigeria? Was it an independent country of its own? The Military Governor of the Midwest, Lt Colonel David Ejoor, was a Nigerian Military officer paid by the Nigerian government.
Nigeria resolved to factions, I can go on as well to tell you that the Military Governor of the East (Emeka Ojukwu) was a Nigerian soldier under the Nigerian payroll,

Once Nigeria resolved to factions, what we knew as the Federal Republic of Nigeria seized to exist, the following 30 months of war was to that effect,

Midwest was a region so it had it's own destiny which was neutrality at first, too bad their neutrality attracted bullying from both sides and eventually they were subjugated by both sides
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by owagbeba: 10:19am On Dec 18, 2021
Bkayyy:
Akụkọ.

If you wanted to know why
1. He fought for Biafra despite being from Midwest then, you should have asked Col. Joe Achuzia before he died in 2018. He was the most successful Biafran commander during the war and he is from the same town (Okpanam) as Nzeogwu.

2. He did the coup, you should have asked Col. Nwobosi before he died in 2020. He was the leading commander that captured Akintola in the Coup and he also fought for Biafra.

You see, answers to your problem were there but you ignored it while you were chasing shadows in the name of preserving this abomination of a country called Nigeria. Those of us that got our answers directly from the horses mouths have made up our minds.

Hello. I guess you know quite a bit about the civil war era. I wonder why the Biafrans fought like a national army Knowing they lacked a lot in armament? And they sustained that strategy till their defeat.

Do you think irregular approach or guerrilla would have made much difference in the outcome of the war?

Reading Chinua’s “there was a country,” one can see that the Biafrans were fightBig to hold territories. I think that was a wrong approach against a well armed “regular” Nigerian Army.

What do you think?
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 10:33am On Dec 18, 2021
owagbeba:


Hello. I guess you know quite a bit about the civil war era. I wonder why the Biafrans fought like a national army Knowing they lacked a lot in armament? And they sustained that strategy till their defeat.

Do you think irregular approach or guerrilla would have made much difference in the outcome of the war?

Reading Chinua’s “there was a country,” one can see that the Biafrans were fightBig to hold territories. I think that was a wrong approach against a well armed “regular” Nigerian Army.

What do you think?



I know that this question was not directed at me but I find it interesting and would want to answer, Ojukwu was not quite a soldier, he was born with silver spoon, extremely intelligent as a person and as an orator but a total failure as a soldier.

Ojukwu could have deployed counter command at first similar to what IPOB is doing today, launch an ardent civil disobedience mechanism against the North/Western faction and move to work with the Midwest, he could have deployed gorilla tactics while tasking the RAP (Research and Production) team to produce the weapon (Ogbunigwe).

He could have needed time to get some weapons and take the war to the sea, there could have been no need to match to Lagos on land and rattling the situation of the Midwest, but what could have happened, whoever won that war, Nigeria could have won because Ojukwu was not primarily about secession but about command and control
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by owagbeba: 10:42am On Dec 18, 2021
AlexBells:

I know that this question was not directed at me but I find it interesting and would want to answer, Ojukwu was not quite a soldier, he was born with silver spoon, extremely intelligent as a person and as an orator but a total failure as a soldier.

Ojukwu could have deployed counter command at first similar to what IPOB is doing today, launch an ardent civil disobedience mechanism against the North/Western faction and move to work with the Midwest, he could have deployed gorilla tactics while tasking the RAP (Research and Production) team to produce the weapon (Ogbunigwe).

He could have needed time to get some weapons and take the war to the sea, there could have been no need to match to Lagos on land and rattling the situation of the Midwest, but what could have happened, whoever won that war, Nigeria could have won because Ojukwu was not primarily about secession but about command and control

Hi Alex

Yes, that particular attempt to match to Lagos really struck me as stupid. Get to Lagos and then what? Facing a hostile community and onslaught from federal might. I reckon it was suicidal.

But then there were good military strategist in the Biafran ranks. I think there was a commander leading the troops to Midwest that was court marshaled for not heeding the order to continue the march to western Nigeria.

Alex... I hope we can keep the discussion as purely academic so as not to attract those who may view the thread as anti-ojukwu, anti-Nigeria, anti-Biafra or anything else, please.

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Musrataman(m): 10:50am On Dec 18, 2021
Bastardlyrich:

They are the once opening different threads that we ijaws hates igbos just to divide us in ss and se.
Claiming ijaw and insulting,all tribes except their belove Yoruba.
I want igbos to disregard those thread.because we are brothers.
Useless afonjas

What is SS and SE?
Why are you guys not ashamed to be alone with your evils supporters five states.

South south are not evil people just stay clear from us

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Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 10:55am On Dec 18, 2021
owagbeba:


Hi Alex

Yes, that particular attempt to match to Lagos really struck me as stupid. Get to Lagos and then what? Facing a hostile community and onslaught from federal might. I reckon it was suicidal.

But then there were good military strategist in the Biafran ranks. I think there was a commander leading the troops to Midwest that was court marshaled for not heeding the order to continue the march to western Nigeria.

Alex... I hope we can keep the discussion as purely academic so as not to attract those who may view the thread as anti-ojukwu, anti-Nigeria, anti-Biafra or anything else, please.
Yes, the discussion is purely academic, I love that Ojukwu stood his ground and fought even though he was not the best to lead the war and every odd was against him,

I'm also happy that the war happened in 1966-70 and not today and regrettably, it is much recoverable that the war happened to the Igbos becuase any other nationality could have been a sort of annihilation, perhaps the war happened to the North at the receiving end, the West could have used the opportunity to decimate them same is applicable if the war was on the West, the North could not have looked back at blowing them up to debris.

Ojukwu was extremely stubborn which I liked up to a point the resistance was surprisingly beyond the initial perception, the fact is this most people think the war was between Biafra and Nigeria but it was a war between two factions of Nigeria, only that one retained the name and capital,

Most weapons even at then was in Kaduna of which Nzeogwu told Ojukwu that the best place to match was Kaduna, it was quite unfortunate that the Northern border defence was so weak and Nsukka would be the first area to fall

Everyone had something good from them, Ojukwu fought and that had saved us from another full scale war and it had helped forge a new identity of the Igbos as people who are not scared to fight, all in all, every war would always have a fault to it, we look at the past and figure out what was done right and what was done right, we really don't pray for another war, the last one had curtailed any further full scale war but you never can tell perhaps we fight again, people need to make right decisions in time to reduce cost
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by AlexBells(m): 10:56am On Dec 18, 2021
Musrataman:


What is SS and SE?
Why are you guys not ashamed to be alone with your evils supporters five states.

South south are not evil people just stay clear from us
What Is south South please, Igboland is one, just face your part of South south and we good
Re: If There Is Any Past Nigerian I Would Go On A Long Bus Trip With, It Nzeogwu by Musrataman(m): 10:58am On Dec 18, 2021
gidgiddy:
Nzeogwu and other mid-level officers felt Nigeria was drifting and intervened, thats what all military officers say anyway after conducting a coup

One good thing about Nzeogwu is that he never got involved in the coup because of power and wealth, like all other future Nigerian military coup plotters. However, Nzeogwu should never have conducted that coup. Military coup is a horrible thing because once Soldiers get into power, they dont like to get out.

There are two things I must correct here, Nzeogwu did not cause the war. Most countries in Africa went through military coups like Nigeria did, but none fought war over it. The war did not start until 18 months after Nzeogwu's coup, so he was not the one who started the war. The war started because Gowon refused to honour the agreement he signed in Aburi, Ghana

As for Nzeogwu fighting for Biafra, why wouldn't he? He was an Igbo man. Nzeogwu was from Okpanam in todays Delta state. Okpanam people like others such as Asaba, Ibusar and other parts of the Igbo speaking part of Delta state, sometimes called "Anioma" have never denied being Igbo

It wasnt just Nzeogwu from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra, there were many others like

Brigadier Nwawo
Brigadier Okwechime
Colonel Ochei
Colonel Joe Achuzia
Colonel Chude Sokei
Lt Colonel Isichei
Major Albert Okonkwo
Major Ben Odogwu


All from the Anioma area that fought for Biafra. Infact, Navy Captain Anuku from Abavo in Anioma areas, was Commander of the Biafran Navy. For them, they were Igbo and fought for their people just like Nzeogwu

Igbo are migrants in Delta state

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