Happy Sunday Nairalanders

Well, am sure we all are aware of the Bible verse that says "the wages of sin is death"
But to my knowledge,I find out that all humans must die and even some wicked people we know still live longer than the ones we call saints.

Sometimes, you will see some wicked people live so long till old age before they die and you will also see some kind hearted people dying young.

If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die

I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it

Please any one with good knowledge should explain.Thanks

Only God knows who is truly wicked, forget about illusions

The price to pay for your sins is death unless u repent.
Modified;
The death here is spiritual death not physical. Everyone will die the physical death be you good or evil and if u die in sin you will be condemned to damnation (the kind of death the passage talked about)

itsme01:
Only God knows who is truly wicked, forget about illusions

wickedness is defined and we all know what it is.

Any act which is against love and detrimental to one’s neighbor and can’t be done to oneself is wickedness. Neighbor here can be sibs, parents, relatives, friends or anyone

lomprico:
The price to pay for your sins is death unless u repent.

You will still die one day either you repent or not

Solofresh2:
Happy Sunday Nairalanders
Well,am sure we all are aware of the Bible verse that says "the wages of sin is death"
But to my knowledge,I find out that all humans must die and even some wicked people we know still live longer than the ones we call saints
Sometimes, you will see some wicked people live so long till old age before they die and you will also see some kind hearted people dying young.

If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die

I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it

Please any one with good knowledge should explain.Thanks

Lalasticlala please front page

The bible says in 2Peter3:9 that the Lord is patient and longsuffering ; not wanting anyone to perish. In fact, if you read through the Old Testament, you'll see that it took over 400 years for God to bring judgment on the Canaanites who practiced child sacrifices and idolatry . This is clear proof that God is someone who chooses to give an extended period of grace so that all(including the wicked ) may come to repentance

Amotolongbo:
wickedness is defined and we all know what it is.

Any act which is against love and detrimental to one’s neighbor and can’t be done to oneself is wickedness. Neighbor here can be sibs, parents, relatives, friends or anyone

Some people misjudged as saints are sometimes more wicked than the ones we know to be wicked

itsme01:


Some people misjudged as saints are sometimes more wicked than the ones we know to be wicked

You already said the Magic word "misjudged".

So we require Proper and True Judgement!

Solofresh2:
Happy Sunday Nairalanders
Well,am sure we all are aware of the Bible verse that says "the wages of sin is death"
But to my knowledge,I find out that all humans must die and even some wicked people we know still live longer than the ones we call saints
Sometimes, you will see some wicked people live so long till old age before they die and you will also see some kind hearted people dying young.

If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die

I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it

Please any one with good knowledge should explain.Thanks

Lalasticlala please front page

Did you not hear that the wicked must eat the fruits of their wickedness?

So they have to live to see and eat their destruction before they Die!

itsme01:


Some people misjudged as saints are sometimes more wicked than the ones we know to be wicked

There is a place of conscience.

Moreover, one can’t be good to all and one can never be wicked to all

Solofresh2:
You will still die one day either you repent or not

It's not the normal death but condemnation in hell fire.

You commit crime, a court of competent jurisdiction can sentence you to death..

Solofresh2:
If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die

I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it

Truly there more to it but only if you can start the reading from previous chapters especially 5.

I'll quote some part of chapter 5 to shield more light on it.

Firstly, as you rightly asked "why do we believe everyone will still die?" Apostle Paul who wrote that "The wages of sin is death" also knows this fact you pointed out as can be seen in verse 12

Secondly, Now why is it that the wages of sin is death? This can also be seen from chapter 5.

Pay attention to the @underlined key words

9 "...we will also be kept safe from God’s anger."

Adam and Christ
12 Adam sinned, and that sin brought death into the world. Now everyone has sinned, and so everyone must die...In some ways Adam is like Christ who came later. 15 But the gift that God was kind enough to give was very different from Adam’s sin. That one sin brought death to many others... 16 There is a lot of difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gift. 18 Everyone was going to be punished because Adam sinned. But because of the good thing that Christ has done, God accepts us and gives us the gift of life. 19 Adam disobeyed God and caused many others to be sinners. But Jesus obeyed him and will make many people acceptable to God."

In conclusion, you can see that everyone was going to be punished as a result of Adam's sin. So this punishment is death though not only physical death but also going into nonexistent state of man but the Gift of Christ made God accepted us back that is giving us another chance to live instead of going into a state of nonexistent.

So if we continue to allow sin to reign in us and refuse to accept the gift that Christ paid for, we'll get DEATH as the gift of sin.

Solofresh2:
Happy Sunday Nairalanders
Well,am sure we all are aware of the Bible verse that says "the wages of sin is death"
But to my knowledge,I find out that all humans must die and even some wicked people we know still live longer than the ones we call saints
Sometimes, you will see some wicked people live so long till old age before they die and you will also see some kind hearted people dying young.

If the wages of sin is death,then why do this wicked people live long and why do we believe everyone will still die
I think there is more to this Bible verse than we see it
Please any one with good knowledge should explain.Thanks

Death is as defined by God in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22, God's judgement and curse on unbelievers since the fall of Adam and Eve.

In God's Old Covenant, the wages of sin is indeed Death - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 - but in God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, God gifts all, sinners and saints alike, with eternal life , this to all those who sign up to accept Jesus Christ.- John 3 vs 16 - 21

About the wicked, God didn't say they will die before you of anything like that. Stop listening to the stories your Pastors and mogs feed you with.. . They are nothing but lies. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is promised long life and God does not kill your enemies so...

itsme01:
Only God knows who is truly wicked, forget about illusions

That is not true. Jesus Christ at least taught His followers to know those who belong to Him from those who don't. He said by their fruits, you shall know them.

lomprico:
The price to pay for your sins is death unless u repent.

Not in Jesus Christ! Death is the penalty for sinners of the Old Covenant Law of Moses- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. However, in the New Covenant, even the sinners have eternal life gifted them, only it will be spent in damnation at the end.

Kobojunkie:
Not in Jesus Christ! Death is the penalty for sinners of the Old Covenant Law of Moses- Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. However, in the New Covenant, even the sinners have eternal life gifted them, only it will be spent in damnation at the end.

That is the death!

Kobojunkie:
Death is as defined by God in Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22, God's judgement and curse on unbelievers since the fall of Adam and Eve.

In God's Old Covenant, the wages of sin is indeed Death - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36 & Ezekiel 33 vs 9 - 20 - but in God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, God gifts all, sinners and saints alike, with eternal life , this to all those who sign up to accept Jesus Christ.- John 3 vs 16 - 21

About the wicked, God didn't say they will die before you of anything like that. Stop listening to the stories your Pastors and mogs feed you with.. . They are nothing but lies. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is promised long life and God does not kill your enemies so...

I just want to know why the Bible said that because, everyone is gonna die

Emusan:


Truly there more to it but only if you can start the reading from previous chapters especially 5.

I'll quote some part of chapter 5 to shield more light on it.

Firstly, as you rightly asked "why do we believe everyone will still die?" Apostle Paul who wrote that "The wages of sin is death" also knows this fact you pointed out as can be seen in verse 12

Secondly, Now why is it that the wages of sin is death? This can also be seen from chapter 5.

Pay attention to the @underlined key words

9 "...we will also be kept safe from God’s anger."

Adam and Christ
12 Adam sinned, and that sin brought death into the world. Now everyone has sinned, and so everyone must die...In some ways Adam is like Christ who came later. 15 But the gift that God was kind enough to give was very different from Adam’s sin. That one sin brought death to many others... 16 There is a lot of difference between Adam’s sin and God’s gift. 18 Everyone was going to be punished because Adam sinned. But because of the good thing that Christ has done, God accepts us and gives us the gift of life. 19 Adam disobeyed God and caused many others to be sinners. But Jesus obeyed him and will make many people acceptable to God."

In conclusion, you can see that everyone was going to be punished as a result of Adam's sin. So this punishment is death though not only physical death but also going into nonexistent state of man but the Gift of Christ made God accepted us back that is giving us another chance to live instead of going into a state of nonexistent.

So if we continue to allow sin to reign in us and refuse to accept the gift that Christ paid for, we'll get DEATH as the gift of sin.

So what you are trying to say now is that, anyone that sin will not live anymore in the spirit but anyone in Christ will live forever?

lomprico:
That is the death!

No, It isn't.

Solofresh2:
I just want to know why the Bible said that because, everyone is gonna die

Why the Bible said what? Where?

Kobojunkie:
Why the Bible said what? Where?

Why the Bible said the wages of sin is death, knowing fully well that every one will die

Kobojunkie:
No, It isn't.

It is

Solofresh2:
Why the Bible said the wages of sin is death, knowing fully well that every one will die

Paul wrote that in his letters which is primarily addressed to his audience of primarily Jewish believers in Rome.

Paul is not Jesus Christ or God who you should instead be more focused on though.

Kobojunkie:
Paul wrote that in his letters which is primarily addressed to his audience of primarily Jewish believers in Rome.

Paul is not Jesus Christ or God who you should instead be more focused on though.

So are you saying it is not true or we should not believe that "the wages of sin is death" ?

Solofresh2:
So are you saying it is not true or we should not believe that "the wages of sin is death" ?

I already explained it to you... Death as the wages of sin is of the Old Covenant - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36

In God's New Covenant, however, Death is not the wages of sin, instead eternal damnation is - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

Kobojunkie:
I already explained it to you... Death as the wages of sin is of the Old Covenant - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 & Ezekiel 18 vs 1 - 36

In God's New Covenant, however, Death is not the wages of sin, instead eternal damnation is - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46

Okay I want to ask you something, don't be annoyed
Are you a man or a Woman

Solofresh2:
Okay I want to ask you something, don't be annoyed
Are you a man or a Woman

What does gender have to do with the topic abeg?

Kobojunkie:
What does gender have to do with the topic abeg?

I know it has nothing to do with the topic
I just want to know