It's alarming the rate at which people with negative mindset spoil the government of this country. I wonder what makes christians feels they don't need to get involved in governance. The so many pastors are not helping matters alot. Evil agenda keep thriving because of his agents he has placed in different sectors of the government.

I was watching a documentary on this cultism war and one thing keep hitting me hard,the level of networking and the influence they gain over the years. Imagine a government with people who could do and listen to what God is doing in a season.

In the bible we saw how Godly people ruled with the fear of God,we saw innovation and development happening and we also saw how the ones who didn't fear God ruled, the Result was for all to see. We will continue to live under the shadow of this heartless people and still keep praying for breakthrough.
Ask and average christian what should be the solution to this problems in the country,they will simply tell you to pray. Prayer is Good but what about taking bold step's to enter into governance, change mindsets, promote unity and ensure development is a priority.

Enough of this pity game, suffering and smiling way of life we have chosen. This is a call for Christians to take the baton.

You have started again this end of the year. Osibanjo wey be spirit filled pastor, as he join politics which mountain has he moved?

Its funny op doesn't know that most of the nigeria leaders/politician that spoilt the country to this level are Christian. Go and check federal parastatals, the corrupt DG and PS in federal ministries are mostly Christian some of them are even pastors and deacon of a church. Remember Nigeria VP is a pastor.

When are you. Joining a political party to bring the required change that we all desired.

Let me be frank with you,I completely believe and share in your thought but remember that in today Nigeria,religion,ethnicity,trabalism,nepotism all come to play when the elecrorate elect who to lead them.for example in today's Nigeria,will all the bad things that have happened,if buhari go for a third tenure,a large percentage of Muslims will still Vote for him.

Joseph in the bible is a spirit filled & also prime minister. But we christians in the world of today can not be like joseph. We are all lovers of money, that`s our problem.

matrixme:
You have started again this end of the year. Osibanjo wey be spirit filled pastor, as he join politics which mountain has he moved?

A tree cannot make a Forest. The mass number of this kind of people will bring notable change, you don't expect on man to fight the many battles of the wicked in that place.

Femmyfestus:
Its funny op doesn't know that most of the nigeria leaders/politician that spoilt the country to this level are Christian. Go and check federal parastatals, the corrupt DG and PS in federal ministries are mostly Christian some of them are even pastors and deacon of a church. Remember Nigeria VP is a pastor.

It is one thing to be called a Christian, it is another thing to fear God and be spirit filled.

A very interesting topic. I agree with you. Looking at the Bible we can see so many "genuine Christians" who were leaders. When I mention genuine Christians I mean "people who believe in God alone", and do not add mammon to it. There is no way a genuine Christian would step into leadership without making a difference. We saw it through the likes of Daniel (prime minister), Joseph (2nd in command to king), Melchizedek the high priest (king of Salem), David, etc.

Brainwashed doctrines/Christians believe that they aren't supposed to participate in politics some condemned voting in elections. Instead of backing up Christians spiritual/physically, and releasing them for leadership positions, they keep discouraging them. They forget that when righteous men are quiet in the land, evil must thrive. These same people will always say that "it is God who chooses leaders". So they expect God to choose a leader among the plenty evil politicians to rule them. It doesn't make sense.

Mrsoft3:
IIn the bible we saw how Godly people ruled with the fear of God,we saw innovation and development happening and we also saw how the ones who didn't fear God ruled, the Result was for all to see. We will continue to live under the shadow of this heartless people and still keep praying for breakthrough.
Ask and average christian what should be the solution to this problems in the country,they will simply tell you to pray. Prayer is Good but what about taking bold step's to enter into governance, change mindsets, promote unity and ensure development is a priority.

Enough of this pity game, suffering and smiling way of life we have chosen. This is a call for Christians to take the baton.

So, it doesn't matter to you that Jesus Christ commands that those who belong to Him remove themselves from the world and its systems in order to become Holy and acceptable vessels for God - John 6 vs 25 - 44 - you would rather call on your Pastors and mogs and have them somehow move against God's Law in your desires?

And it hasn't dawned on you that the worst kind of evil is the one that pitches itself directly against God Himself?

Mrsoft3:
It is one thing to be called a Christian, it is another thing to fear God and be spirit filled.

And what spirit fills you, causing you to suggest ideas that directly contradict the very Word of God, Jesus Christ - Matthew 20 vs 20 - 28 ?

Mrsoft3:
It's alarming the rate at which people with negative mindset spoil the government of this country. I wonder what makes christians feels they don't need to get involved in governance. The so many pastors are not helping matters alot. Evil agenda keep thriving because of his agents he has placed in different sectors of the government.

I was watching a documentary on this cultism war and one thing keep hitting me hard,the level of networking and the influence they gain over the years. Imagine a government with people who could do and listen to what God is doing in a season.

In the bible we saw how Godly people ruled with the fear of God,we saw innovation and development happening and we also saw how the ones who didn't fear God ruled, the Result was for all to see. We will continue to live under the shadow of this heartless people and still keep praying for breakthrough.
Ask and average christian what should be the solution to this problems in the country,they will simply tell you to pray. Prayer is Good but what about taking bold step's to enter into governance, change mindsets, promote unity and ensure development is a priority.

Enough of this pity game, suffering and smiling way of life we have chosen. This is a call for Christians to take the baton.

If they are spirit filled the "spirit" will lead them to where He wills.

efficiencie:
If they are spirit filled the "spirit" will lead them to where He wills.

Filled with what spirit because the Spirit that that of God leads people out of the world's systems, not into it's center.

Kobojunkie:
Filled with what spirit because the Spirit that that of God leads people out of the world's systems, not into it's center.

Dude you are not the Spirit of God and you are not His spokesperson, so don't speak for Him.

efficiencie:
Dude you are not the Spirit of God and you are not His spokesperson, so don't speak for Him.

You don't need to be God Himself to know this since Jesus Christ taught of even these things to His followers over 2000 years ago.

Mrsoft3:



Ask and average christian what should be the solution to this problems in the country,they will simply tell you to pray.

This above is the reason why religious people are not fit to rule. Imagine asking your president to fix your issues and he says 'ishallah'. If you think Nigeria is bad now, you wouldnt want a Nigeria with a very religious leader.

The cultists you cited even though they are into spiritism, they know when action is needed, they need to move. They don't hope and pray. So realistically, they are better at ruling (however bad they are) than religious robots.

The group name "Christians" means "followers of Christ" and who is the Christ? A first century Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher known as Jesus of Nazareth!
During the time his people were dearly in need of a leader who will deliver them from their harsh Roman oppressive government Jesus started a movement, what was the agenda of this movement?

From that time on, Jesus began preaching and saying: “Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 4:17

What did he order his followers to do?

These 12 Jesus sent out, giving them these instructions: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’" Matthew 10:5-7

What did Jesus have to say about the political system of this world?

Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.” John 18:36

What about his own disciples? Are they expected to participate in the political affairs of the world?

"If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you". John 15:19 compare to John 17:14-16

But in whose hands the political system of this world is?

So (Satan) brought (Jesus) up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time. Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish" Luke 4:5-6 compare to John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

What is the only hope Jesus gave his followers regarding the world's condition and political system?

“You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your (Government) come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth". Matthew 6:9-10

So all those getting involved in politics today have no business with Jesus of Nazareth!

MaxInDHouse:
The group name "Christians" means "followers of Christ" and who is the Christ? A first century Jewish carpenter who later became a teacher known as Jesus of Nazareth!
During the time his people were dearly in need of a leader who will deliver them from their harsh Roman oppressive government Jesus started a movement, what was the agenda of this movement?

From that time on, Jesus began preaching and saying: “Repent, for the Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.” Matthew 4:17

What did he order his followers to do?

These 12 Jesus sent out, giving them these instructions: “Do not go off into the road of the nations, and do not enter any Sa·marʹi·tan city; but instead, go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. As you go, preach, saying: ‘The Kingdom of the heavens has drawn near.’" Matthew 10:5-7

What did Jesus have to say about the political system of this world?

Jesus answered: “My Kingdom is no part of this world. If my Kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be handed over to the Jews. But as it is, my Kingdom is not from this source.” John 18:36

What about his own disciples? Are they expected to participate in the political affairs of the world?

"If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, for this reason the world hates you". John 15:19 compare to John 17:14-16

But in whose hands the political system of this world is?

So (Satan) brought (Jesus) up and showed him all the kingdoms of the inhabited earth in an instant of time. Then the Devil said to him: “I will give you all this authority and their glory, because it has been handed over to me, and I give it to whomever I wish" Luke 4:5-6 compare to John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

What is the only hope Jesus gave his followers regarding the world's condition and political system?

“You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified. Let your (Government) come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth". Matthew 6:9-10

So all those getting involved in politics today have no business with Jesus of Nazareth!

Hmmm!, Painted lies!

AntiChristian:

Hmmm!, Painted lies!

Na Muhammad bẹ political thug Jesus never had anything to do with politics, you can bring any scripture you lay your hands to prove me wrong!

Kobojunkie:
Filled with what spirit because the Spirit that that of God leads people out of the world's systems, not into it's center.

always antagonist

As much as I love the idea, Nigerian politics is a very dirty one . It will corrupt your system and you won't have option than to join them or forever remain silent

greencard:
As much as I love the idea, Nigerian politics is a very dirty one . It will corrupt your system and you won't have option than to join them or forever remain silent

How did it get corrupted?

If it can get corrupted then it can get in corrupted. If we have mass numbers of good willed people,with kingdom mindset of governance and the fear of God,I bet you Nigeria will become a change state.

Dr Myles Munroe was a man nation sort out counsel from, we should have people like him who encourage many to venture into governance

greencard:
As much as I love the idea, Nigerian politics is a very dirty one . It will corrupt your system and you won't have option than to join them or forever remain silent

How did it get corrupted?

If it can get corrupted then it can get in corrupted. If we have mass numbers of good willed people,with kingdom mindset of governance and the fear of God,I bet you Nigeria will become a change state.

Dr Myles Munroe was a man nation sort out counsel from, we should have people like him who encourage many to venture into governance.

greencard:
always antagonist

Better to stand on the side of the Truth of God, than with the deluded masses abeg!

Mrsoft3:



How did it get corrupted?

If it can get corrupted then it can get in corrupted. If we have mass numbers of good willed people,with kingdom mindset of governance and the fear of God,I bet you Nigeria will become a change state.

Dr Myles Munroe was a man nation sort out counsel from, we should have people like him who encourage many to venture into governance

nicely put, but how can this thing be?

greencard:
nicely put, but how can this thing be?

Let us teach people that politics is a field for anybody and the majority that dominates brings their mindset to play, if our mindset is kingdom mindset and we are willing to bring his glory to politics,then we should go for it and not this statement of politics is for the devil.


Kobonjunkie or what's that his name has simply portray the level of brainwashed mindset most average christian share about politics.

Kobojunkie:
Better to stand on the side of the Truth of God, than with the deluded masses abeg!

I don't think you stand on the side of God, your view about God and spiritual things is just something else. But what do I know. Let God be true and everyman a liar

Mrsoft3:
I don't think you stand on the side of God, your view about God and spiritual things is just something else. But what do I know. Let God be true and everyman a liar

But your view here stands in direct contradiction to God's very own commandment and given by Jesus Christ to His followers, so how can it be said that you know God's Truth or even the Spirit that belongs to God in this?

Mrsoft3:


Let us teach people that politics is a field for anybody and the majority that dominates brings their mindset to play, if our mindset is kingdom mindset and we are willing to bring his glory to politics,then we should go for it and not this statement of politics is for the devil.


Kobonjunkie or what's that his name has simply portray the level of brainwashed mindset most average christian share about politics.

apt

Mrsoft3:
Let us teach people that politics is a field for anybody and the majority that dominates brings their mindset to play, if our mindset is kingdom mindset and we are willing to bring his glory to politics,then we should go for it and not this statement of politics is for the devil.
Kobonjunkie or what's that his name has simply portray the level of brainwashed mindset most average christian share about politics.

Jesus Christ, the one whose Kingdom it is, said His Kingdom, and its government, is not of this world. But here you insist instead that, against His own ruling, those who belong in the Kingdom should instead busy themselves with the governance of the world He came to call them out from?

How deep does this delusion of yours go abeg!

Jesus Christ said we should no longer work for bread that spoils - the world's politics being the excellent example of food that spoils as the food it provides is impermanent. Jesus Christ said instead we should work for food that endures to eternity which only He can give...- John 6 vs 25 - 44. - yet you willfully ignore His teachings to assert this foolishness against God, why?

Femmyfestus:
Its funny op doesn't know that most of the nigeria leaders/politician that spoilt the country to this level are Christian. Go and check federal parastatals, the corrupt DG and PS in federal ministries are mostly Christian some of them are even pastors and deacon of a church. Remember Nigeria VP is a pastor.

They are not Christians. Yes, they go to church and claim to be Christian. That doesn't make them Christians. The same way a person that works in a hospital and administer drugs to people in his neighbourhood is not a doctor.

Yinkakolawole:
Joseph in the bible is a spirit filled & also prime minister. But we christians in the world of today can not be like joseph. We are all lovers of money, that`s our problem.

What gave you the impression that Joseph was a Christian?

greencard:
always antagonist

He's not being antagonistic. He is actually making scriptural sense with this. Jesus said His kingdom "is not of the is world". There was a reason why the apostles didn't go the political route while spreading the gospel. They never preached for people to work towards attaining government positions, they preached for people to await a coming government rules directly by God.