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Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 9:32pm On Dec 20, 2021
The Six years of independence from 1960 to 1966 proved that Nigeria was not ready for regional government and it was a good thing that the regions was stripped of some powers.

Most people who are shouting today for a revert to regional government did not know how terrible the regional governments were.

People read fabricated contents and seeing the parts mischievous media wants us to see but going a little deeper would show us that regional government was not all that we had been made to believe it was.

The proponents of regional government had always been the North and the West at some point Zik advocated for Nigeria to be broken into different states, Awolowo was vehement at his rejection of such moves.

As I grow in politics, I have to pinch my tenths along with my forerunners not becuase it is the tradition but becuase it is right, whenever you read from the media earlier controlled by a certain part and they tell you that this is right and try to force it down everyone then it is time to wear your thinking cap.

Regional government was dangerous and believe it or not, regional government was the cause of the civil war, Nigeria is a very unique country and with time, people would find traditional solutions to their traditional situations but regional government is a very dangerous situation.

Resource control is quite different from regional government so why resource control could be pursued, regional governments in the sense that regional law becomes priority to central law is only a recipe for chaos as seen before.

There had been growing tribal cohesion, that's enough for now, each tribe identifies with it's people but granting more constitutional powers to these regional motives are quite unpredictable.

Issues with the regional government includes 1. The Wild Wild West in Yorubaland (The First instance of institutional Terrorism in Nigeria)
2. Although the validity of the invasion plan of the Midle Belt and West by the North could not be ascertained before the coup, the January 15 boys hinted on the planed invasion as reasons for their intervention and today we see something similar going on.
3. The Biafran war (The major reason Biafra was able to fight was becuase it was a region and not several states) if Biafra was several state, people like Uzodimma, Umahi and more could have rooted with Gowon and frustrated any attempt to war.

Honestly Nigeria is not mature enough for regional government and instead of reverting to regional government, please let's negotiate breakup and save lives.

Noteworthy also is that regional governments favours majority tribes more and there may not be wide spread development as we can see with the 36 states system where each state have decent capitals, It takes the stage two government closer to the people.

For real regional government is also not the solution to corruption, Nigeria's major problem at all level is corruption.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Ttalk: 9:37pm On Dec 20, 2021
Half baked education is worst than being illiterate.

I rest my case

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 9:42pm On Dec 20, 2021
Ttalk:
Half baked education is worst than being illiterate.

I rest my case
I'm going to stand in your face and tell you that he who laughs last laughs best, you want regional government pay the price, mess up and see the games in your face, you couldn't get secession clause under regional government, go get it now, you think the Igbos would be down forever but we rose from the ashes, and we would look you in the face and say bring the game on, Unitary system is here to stay otherwise let everyone go have their own country

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Dorcmass(m): 9:42pm On Dec 20, 2021
wahala see ehn this life no balance at all kilode i blame lord lugard olorungbo
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Babaken(m): 9:43pm On Dec 20, 2021
Those two last name mention signify traitor.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 9:45pm On Dec 20, 2021
Babaken:
Those two last name mention signify traitor.
There are times when what you need is just traitors, you never seen a war, have you, if they behaved in exactly the way we wanted, we would be dealing with a full scale war by now, God is wise
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Babaken(m): 10:14pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

There are times when what you need is just traitors, you never seen a war, have you, if they behaved in exactly the way we wanted, we would be dealing with a full scale war by now, God is wise
what do you mean by war what hope bring to Imo state is call what.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 10:20pm On Dec 20, 2021
Babaken:
what do you mean by war what hope bring to Imo state is call what.
Hope and Wike has a case, but what you see hope doing is just a tip of the iceberg compared to full scale war, honestly my heart bleeds to those but hope maybe a traitor but he is still Igbo and when he close his eyes in the Night those innocent blood hunts him, but you can't say same of others who would see our blood as a trophy, do you know how many people was killed in Asaba alone during the Asaba massacre, please let's not bring the gory of a full scale war, I get it they are traitors but if they all put an Ojukwu cap, situation would be bad,
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Babaken(m): 10:25pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

Hope and Wike has a case, but what you see hope doing is just a tip of the iceberg compared to full scale war, honestly my heart bleeds to those but hope maybe a traitor but he is still Igbo and when he close his eyes in the Night those innocent blood hunts him, but you can't say same of others who would see our blood as a trophy, do you know how many people was killed in Asaba alone during the Asaba massacre, please let's not bring the gory of a full scale war, I get it they are traitors but if they all put an Ojukwu cap, situation would be bad,
I understand you quite sure but the role hope playing will delt his name even after his government Imo had not been this hot.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Investigative: 10:27pm On Dec 20, 2021
Apart from abduction and illegal detention of our people, genocide is going on in Imo State,
Nigeria security forces are carrying out ethnic cleansing in our land

When the table turns, let the story tellers start from the beginning

#FreeMaziNnamdiKanuNow.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 10:37pm On Dec 20, 2021
Babaken:
I understand you quite sure but the role hope playing will delt his name even after his government Imo had not been this hot.
Things are quite terrible in Imo, it is not quite within my capacity to Xray some situations but the whole occurrence in Imo and other part of Igboland is quite deep honestly, even if things can be done, you would agree with me that any drastic solution could live us more bruised, I'm not going to say let's pray about it becuase if God was going to solve it he could have solved it before it happened, all I can say is that we shall survive this phase, it is only a phase
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 10:45pm On Dec 20, 2021
Investigative:
Apart from abduction and illegal detention of our people, genocide is going on in Imo State,
Nigeria security forces are carrying out ethnic cleansing in our land

When the table turns, let the story tellers start from the beginning

#FreeMaziNnamdiKanuNow.
The situation is not funny but what I can advice is constraints, these sorts of situations honestly puts me in a tight corner, If the government doesn't have such intentions to keep Kanu they couldn't have gone all the long way to abduct him from Kenya, I'm not speaking like a politician Kanu is my brother and if the government have no intentions for fair play, going on a full blown confrontation would only invite the wraths,.

I don't know what to say in this situation honestly, I'm not in good position to advice a determined Government but I'm not also in position to tell any party to calm down, what I know is that we are in this together and on my own capacity I do look out for those whom this situation had put in very terrible situation, I really wish Kanu can be released this is gone on too far and people are suffering.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by Ttalk: 10:53pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

I'm going to stand in your face and tell you that he who laughs last laughs best, you want regional government pay the price, mess up and see the games in your face, you couldn't get secession clause under regional government, go get it now, you think the Igbos would be down forever but we rose from the ashes, and we would look you in the face and say bring the game on, Unitary system is here to stay otherwise let everyone go have their own country

What is regional government?

What is federalism?

What is unitary (system) government?

What is presidential system of government.?

What are the common features of regional and federal system?

What form of government is suitable for Nigeria?

What is fiscal responsibility?

What is resource control?

Under what condition will fiscal and resource control can be achieved?
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 10:57pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

Hope and Wike has a case, but what you see hope doing is just a tip of the iceberg compared to full scale war, honestly my heart bleeds to those but hope maybe a traitor but he is still Igbo and when he close his eyes in the Night those innocent blood hunts him, but you can't say same of others who would see our blood as a trophy, do you know how many people was killed in Asaba alone during the Asaba massacre, please let's not bring the gory of a full scale war, I get it they are traitors but if they all put an Ojukwu cap, situation would be bad,
They are innocent, then why are you not amongst them since you are not guilty also?
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 10:58pm On Dec 20, 2021
Ttalk:


What is regional government?

What is federalism?

What is unitary (system) government?

What is presidential system of government.?

What are the common features of regional and federal system?

What form of government is suitable for Nigeria?

What is fiscal responsibility?

What is resource control?

Under what condition will fiscal and resource control can be achieved?
If they like restructure, unrestructure, 2 presidents, 4 Vice Presidents, Nigeria will still be the same, Failed.

Keep running round in circles, you can’t run away from yourself.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:00pm On Dec 20, 2021
Ttalk:


What is regional government?

What is federalism?

What is unitary (system) government?

What is presidential system of government.?

What are the common features of regional and federal system?

What form of government is suitable for Nigeria?

What is fiscal responsibility?

What is resource control?

Under what condition will fiscal and resource control be achieved?
If you know the answer to those, why ask me, I only told you, instead of constitutionally altering the arrangements of the country the way it is, let's breakup, tribal people should figure out their destiny within their traditional scopes, resources control could be looked into without altering the structure of the country,

There shall be single armed forces, single service system and a central supreme constitution and government, understand it in your own terms but alter this and we might consider a breakup,
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:03pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

If you know the answer to those, why ask me, I only told you, instead of constitutionally altering the arrangements of the country the way it is, let's breakup, tribal people should figure out their destiny within their traditional scopes, resources control could be looked into without altering the structure of the country,

There shall be single armed forces, single service system and a central supreme constitution and government, understand it in your own terms but alter this and we might consider a breakup,
It seems you think life is a joke & you have all of the time in the world to waste?

Who will pay your retired parents their pension, or they just worked for nothing in their youths, to suffer in their old age?

Selfish minded Mumurist.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:06pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
They are innocent, then why are you not amongst them since you are not guilty also?
Why I'm I not among who, so you think in situations like seen in Imo it is only combatants that fall, or it is only armed people that feels the brunt, if it makes you feel good to put words into my mouth, just note that I only hold hope and every other party responsible for the innocent people fallen, it is still within my right as a person to ascribe innocence to the innocent and to at least wish them justice, I don't know who you are but my heart knows the innocent that it goes out to unless you want to prove that none of these situations had impacted innocent people.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:09pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
It seems you think life is a joke & you have all of the time in the world to waste?

Who will pay your retired parents their pension, or they just worked for nothing in their youths, to suffer in their old age?

Selfish minded Mumurist.
What have retirements gotten to do with the structure of the country, meanwhile I don't think my parents wasted their youth hoping that this country that couldn't take care of their youth would suddenly take care of their aging, my parents can take care of their basic needs even if retirement benefits was not the question.

Like regional government would cure corruption
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:10pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

Why I'm I not among who, so you think in situations like seen in Imo it is only combatants that fall, or it is only armed people that feels the brunt, if it makes you feel good to put words into my mouth, just note that I only hold hope and every other party responsible for the innocent people fallen, it is still within my right as a person to ascribe innocence to the innocent and to at least wish them justice, I don't know who you are but my heart knows the innocent that it goes out to unless you want to prove that none of these situations had impacted innocent people .
Blame ipob it is exactly what they want casualties, didn’t the supreme leader say many must die for Biafra?

So they have a reason to shed crocodile tears & seek sympathy from brainwashed zombies?

Nonsense you can fool some people sometimes, but you can’t fool all the people all the time.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:12pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
Blame ipob it is exactly what they want casualties, didn’t the supreme leader say many must die for Biafra?

So they have a reason to shed crocodile tears & seek sympathy from brainwashed zombies. Nonsense.
Why would I blame IPOB, Did I vote for IPOB
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by shigishege: 11:12pm On Dec 20, 2021
Nobody is holding you people, in fact we will have rest of mind in this country.

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:13pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

Why would I blame IPOB, Did I vote for IPOB
Then why are you complaining when the Government that you voted for is neutralizing the Terrorist & Unknown Gunmen that are disturbing the peace of the state?

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by MuchAdo: 11:16pm On Dec 20, 2021
Anyone who decides to "pinch his tenths" is no doubt a piggiddioott.

Piggiddioott amaka... grin
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:16pm On Dec 20, 2021
shigishege:
Nobody is holding you people, in fact we will have rest of mind in this country.
Holding who or we are holding you, are you not the one with institutionalised demand for restructuring, when have you ever seen any real Igbo governor demanding for restructuring, actually we are okay with the structure of the country we just wants equity in the said system, even if they give some people equity in the current system they would want it dismantled but this system is more stable for us and stripping regions power to make laws makes your shariah null and some of your regional intended laws in the west subject to the supreme constitution, lol,
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:16pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

What have retirements gotten to do with the structure of the country, meanwhile I don't think my parents wasted their youth hoping that this country that couldn't take care of their youth would suddenly take care of their aging, my parents can take care of their basic needs even if retirement benefits was not the question.

Like regional government would cure corruption
Exactly the mindset, why I called you selfish minded. Go to Biafra by yourself.
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:18pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
Then why are you complaining when the Government that you voted for is neutralizing the Terrorist & Unknown Gunmen that are disturbing the peace of the state?
Because it is only an insensitive government that prioritise confrontation over dialogue especially when understanding that at first the said group was unarmed
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:19pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

Because it is only an insensitive government that prioritise confrontation over dialogue especially when understanding that at first the said group was unarmed
Ok you want a state Governor to discuss with a group that has been proscribed & gazetted as a Terrorist organization by the Federal Government?

Ipob sympathizers are the dumbest.

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:20pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
Exactly the mindset, why I called you selfish minded.
You have not answered the question, how would regional government eradicate corruption and unemployment, did it eradicate within the 6 years of independence?

You are just saying unrelated stuff to make you think you can have back the regional government that made your power hungry lots burn people alive with real chaos
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:21pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
Ok you want a state Governor to discuss with a group that has been proscribed & gazetted as a Terrorist organization by the Federal Government?

Ipob sympathizers are the dumbest.
State government is not the case, IPOB is a regional situation, I want the commander in chief to be a father unless he prefer rehabilitating terrorists
Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by rexwalters: 11:22pm On Dec 20, 2021
AlexBells:

You have not answered the question, how would regional government eradicate corruption and unemployment, did it eradicate within the 6 years of independence?

You are just saying unrelated stuff to make you think you can have back the regional government that made your power hungry lots burn people alive with real chaos
Nigeria is a Federal 3 tier system of Government, The Federal, The States & Local Governments, you couldn’t get it a better system, unless you want communism?

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Re: Instead Of Going Back To Regional Government, I Prefer A Total Breakup by AlexBells(m): 11:23pm On Dec 20, 2021
rexwalters:
Exactly the mindset, why I called you selfish minded. Go to Biafra by yourself.
Go to Biafra, lol the Igbo nation owns Nigeria, we are everywhere you should get back to crying for secession clause like your ancestors

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