iCauseTrouble:
2022 don start again

He died on Tuesday 28th of December 2021.

ThatFairGuy1:
Nothing like ile Ife GUY, have some respect for our king

To your question, it's in this order.

1. Ooni of Ife.
2. Alaafin of Your.

Olubadan comes but not even third, fourth or fifth Among Oba's ranking in Yoruba land

You are partially correct. Olubadan and Oba of Lagos are not one of the descendants of Oduduwa, thus, they are not in the same league as ooni , alaafin, awujale, soun, oba of Benin, olowo of Owo etc.

However, you can't rank Ooni of ife ahead of Alaafin of Oyo. Same way you can't rank Alaafin ahead of Ooni of Ife. Alaafi is the last born and he believes the current Ooni is a usurper of the throne. He believes when their father died, and none of his children was at home, Ooni who used to be their father's Aboore took over the throne.

So the argument of supremacy will continue forever between Alaafin of Oyo and Ooni of Ife.

dangotesmummy:


What's alafin still waiting for

What about ur Father

vibratingpenis:
Please somebody should clearify the differences between these monarchs; the ile ife guy, oba of oyo that one that marries woman every second and this one now. Which one is greater and the over all.

Olubadan position was not a kingship before, it was a Baale (like a ruler over village). However, Ibadan city was getting bigger and eventually became a very big city and one of the most populated city in Africa.
Few decades ago, in the modern era, Baale of Ibadan was changed to Olubadan of Ibadan to assume the kingship status.
Ibadan as a town was formed by olden days warriors who usually rested in the location and therefore, there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan. It is a road side settlement which eventually became a very big city because of its central location to all other big towns in Yoruba.
Olubadan used to be under Alafin of Oyo before. Now, duo with Soun of Ogbomoso are first class obas in Oyo State.
Alafin of Oyo and Ooni of Ile-Ife have been in serious battle supremacy for long time. However, with the create of Osun State out of old Oyo State, the rift seems to be dieing down.

The next in line to oba saliu will automatically become the next king.

Nobody can change it.

ajbabs:

Olubadan position was not a kingship before, it was a Baale (like a ruler over village). However, Ibadan city was getting bigger and eventually became a very big city and one of the most populated city in Africa.
Few decades ago, in the modern era, Baale of Ibadan was changed to Olubadan of Ibadan to assume the kingship status.
Ibadan as a town was formed by olden days warriors who usually rested in the location and therefore, there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan. It is a road side settlement which eventually became a very big city because of its central location to all other big towns in Yoruba.
Olubadan used to be under Alafin of Oyo before. Now, duo with Soun of Ogbomoso are first class obas in Oyo State.
Alafin of Oyo and Ooni of Ile-Ife have been in serious battle supremacy for long time. However, with the create of Osun State out of old Oyo State, the rift seems to be dieing down.

Nice and intellectual submission but I disagree that there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan. If not, why do we have "Omo ale Ibadan" - Ibadan bastard. Once you have a traceable village and agbo ile in Ibadan, you are a true son or daughter of Ibadan.

ajbabs:

Olubadan position was not a kingship before, it was a Baale (like a ruler over village). However, Ibadan city was getting bigger and eventually became a very big city and one of the most populated city in Africa.
Few decades ago, in the modern era, Baale of Ibadan was changed to Olubadan of Ibadan to assume the kingship status.
Ibadan as a town was formed by olden days warriors who usually rested in the location and therefore, there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan. It is a road side settlement which eventually became a very big city because of its central location to all other big towns in Yoruba.
Olubadan used to be under Alafin of Oyo before. Now, duo with Soun of Ogbomoso are first class obas in Oyo State.
Alafin of Oyo and Ooni of Ile-Ife have been in serious battle supremacy for long time. However, with the create of Osun State out of old Oyo State, the rift seems to be dieing down.

Stop spreading information you have partial knowledge about.

MT:


Nice and intellectual submission but I disagree that there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan. If not, why do we have "Omo ale Ibadan". Once you have a traceable village in Ibadan, you are a true son or daughter in Ibadan.

The earlier statement was partially correct because of the ancedent and formative pattern of the city. However, like it is obtainable in all other big towns of yoruba land, a person must be traceable to a particular village may be because farming was a dominant means of survival then and it could not be effectively be practiced in olden days towns.
For instance, every Ilesha man must has a village, like for Ife man, Oyo man, Ijebu man etc.

vibratingpenis:
Please somebody should clearify the differences between these monarchs; the ile ife guy, oba of oyo that one that marries woman every second and this one now. Which one is greater and the over all.

There's no greater or lesser king in present day Yorubaland... everyone rules over his domain and is great in his own right.
But olubadan is the equivalent of what the British call Lord or Duke. Olu in Yoruba means Lord; Olubadan= Lord of Ibadan or the Duke of Ibadan.

JohnSin97:



Stop spreading information you have partial knowledge about.

Ibadan, coined from the phrase "Eba Odan",[4] which literally means 'by the edge of the meadow', came into existence in 1829, during a period of turmoil that characterized Yorubaland at the time.[5] It was in this period that many old Yoruba cities such as old Oyo (Oyo ile), Ijaye and Owu disappeared, and newer ones such as Abeokuta, new Oyo (Oyo atiba) and Ibadan sprang up to replace them.[6] According to local historians, Lagelu founded the city, and was initially intended to be a war camp for warriors coming from Oyo, Ife and Ijebu.[7] As a forest site containing several ranges of hills, varying in elevation from 160 to 275 metres, the location of the camp offered strategic defence opportunities. Moreover, its location at the fringe of the forest (from which the city got its name) promoted its emergence as a marketing centre for traders and goods from both the forest and grassland areas.


The church and mission in Ibadan, Yoruba country, 1850's
In 1852, the Church Missionary Society sent David and Anna Hinderer to found a mission. They decided to build the mission and a church in Ibadan when they arrived in 1853.[8]

Ibadan thus had initially begun as a military state and remained so until the last decade of the 19th century. The city-state also succeeded in building a large empire from the 1860s to the 1890s which extended over much of northern and eastern Yorubaland. It was appropriately nicknamed idi Ibon or “gun base”, because of its unique military character.[9]

In Ibadan, unlike other Yoruba cities with traditional kingship institutions, the warrior class became the rulers of the city as well as the most important economic group.

Ibadan grew into an impressive and sprawling urban center, such that by the end of 1829 Ibadan dominated the Yorùbá region militarily, politically and economically. The military sanctuary expanded even further when refugees began arriving in large numbers from northern Oyo following raids by Fulani warriors. After losing the northern portion of their region to the marauding Fulanis, many Oyo indigenes retreated deeper into the Ibadan environs. The Fulani Caliphate attempted to expand further into the southern region of modern-day Nigeria, but was decisively defeated by the armies of Ibadan in 1840, which eventually halted their progress. The colonial period reinforced the position of the city in the Yoruba urban network. After a small boom in rubber business (1901-1913), cocoa became the main produce of the region and attracted European and Levantine firms, as well as southern and northern traders from Lagos, Ijebu-Ode and Kano among others. The city became a major point of bulk trade. Its central location and accessibility from the capital city of Lagos were major considerations in the choice of Ibadan as the headquarters of the Western Provinces (1939) which ranged from the northernmost areas of Oyo State to Ekeremor, Bomadi and Patani, which were regions transferred from the old Delta province in the Old Western region and later Mid-west to the old Rivers state and later Bayelsa, in the redistricting of Nigeria carried out by the Yakubu Gowon administration shortly before the Nigerian civil war

Oba is not dead he only waja.

tommy589:
The next in line is known already

Rip kabiyesi

@xiwosom Ibadan kingship system is for the old people. You start at the bottom and move up in rank at the death of those ahead in chieftaincy position. If lucky to live that long you become king

Baba Ladoja moving very closer to the throne..

JohnSin97:


There's no greater or lesser king in present day Yorubaland... everyone rules over his domain and is great in his own right.
But olubadan is the equivalent of what the British call Lord or Duke. Olu in Yoruba means Lord; Olubadan= Lord of Ibadan or the Duke of Ibadan.

Which Duke? Lord of ring ni.
It was just Baale of Ibadan until 1936 or so.

ajbabs:


Ibadan, coined from the phrase "Eba Odan",[4] which literally means 'by the edge of the meadow', came into existence in 1829, during a period of turmoil that characterized Yorubaland at the time.[5] It was in this period that many old Yoruba cities such as old Oyo (Oyo ile), Ijaye and Owu disappeared, and newer ones such as Abeokuta, new Oyo (Oyo atiba) and Ibadan sprang up to replace them.[6] According to local historians, Lagelu founded the city, and was initially intended to be a war camp for warriors coming from Oyo, Ife and Ijebu.[7] As a forest site containing several ranges of hills, varying in elevation from 160 to 275 metres, the location of the camp offered strategic defence opportunities. Moreover, its location at the fringe of the forest (from which the city got its name) promoted its emergence as a marketing centre for traders and goods from both the forest and grassland areas.


The church and mission in Ibadan, Yoruba country, 1850's
In 1852, the Church Missionary Society sent David and Anna Hinderer to found a mission. They decided to build the mission and a church in Ibadan when they arrived in 1853.[8]

Ibadan thus had initially begun as a military state and remained so until the last decade of the 19th century. The city-state also succeeded in building a large empire from the 1860s to the 1890s which extended over much of northern and eastern Yorubaland. It was appropriately nicknamed idi Ibon or “gun base”, because of its unique military character.[9]

In Ibadan, unlike other Yoruba cities with traditional kingship institutions, the warrior class became the rulers of the city as well as the most important economic group.

Ibadan grew into an impressive and sprawling urban center, such that by the end of 1829 Ibadan dominated the Yorùbá region militarily, politically and economically. The military sanctuary expanded even further when refugees began arriving in large numbers from northern Oyo following raids by Fulani warriors. After losing the northern portion of their region to the marauding Fulanis, many Oyo indigenes retreated deeper into the Ibadan environs. The Fulani Caliphate attempted to expand further into the southern region of modern-day Nigeria, but was decisively defeated by the armies of Ibadan in 1840, which eventually halted their progress. The colonial period reinforced the position of the city in the Yoruba urban network. After a small boom in rubber business (1901-1913), cocoa became the main produce of the region and attracted European and Levantine firms, as well as southern and northern traders from Lagos, Ijebu-Ode and Kano among others. The city became a major point of bulk trade. Its central location and accessibility from the capital city of Lagos were major considerations in the choice of Ibadan as the headquarters of the Western Provinces (1939) which ranged from the northernmost areas of Oyo State to Ekeremor, Bomadi and Patani, which were regions transferred from the old Delta province in the Old Western region and later Mid-west to the old Rivers state and later Bayelsa, in the redistricting of Nigeria carried out by the Yakubu Gowon administration shortly before the Nigerian civil war

Your assertion of the fact that there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan is false, misleading and treacherous. The founding oyo fathers/ familiy in the 1700s/1800s still have their family houses there to this day. It's one thing to read and copy and paste history, it's another thing to understand the history you're reading.

ajbabs:

Which Duke? Lord of ring ni.
It was just Baale of Ibadan until 1936 or so.

Then after 1936 what was it called? Are you arguing for argument sake or are you just jobless? As the city grew and developed so did the title just like it was in england..... it's not to hold title of Ooni or whatever and be living in a glorified village...

Harryfrosh:
can you explain more on dis please... Just want to know more about the queuing part

Like a civil service system, climbing the ladder, till u become perm sec then HOS. Something like that

JohnSin97:


Your assertion of the fact that there is no true sons and daughters of Ibadan is false, misleading and treacherous. The founding oyo fathers/ familiy in the 1700s/1800s still have their family houses there to this day. It's one thing to read and copy and paste history, it's another thing to understand the history you're reading.

My assertion was to that formative years. They came from somewhere abi. And few years after that people are also joining them abi. Everybody that have moved to Ibadan and have spent considerable years there are sons and daughters of Ibadan. Go to Olubadan palace and see how Mogagi of "new family" are being established.
You moved to Ibadan in 1700 years, I moved there in 1800 years and so on. It is a complex city from that angle.
Whether that are true sons and daughters of Ibadan or not, everybody in Ibadan today should know that there progenitors were not there in five hundreds ago. Where did they come from ?
This is applicable to every town, nation of the Earth

JohnSin97:


Then after 1936 what was it called? Are you arguing for argument sake or are you just jobless? As the city grew and developed so did the title..... it's not to hold title of Ooni or whatever and be living in a glorified village.

There is no argument here. We are just visiting the memory lane.
Remember where we started from. The guy asked a question. We can not do some justice to the question without visiting little of history.
In my earlier submission, I have said that as of today ooo, Soun of Ogbomoso, Alafin of Oyo and Olubadan of Ibadan are co-first obas in Oyo State
In negation to your response to the guy question, we have hierarchy among obas in Yoruba land as of today. The hierarchy is however in different states of the federation as sanctioned by the ministry in charge of chieftaincy matter.

ajbabs:

My assertion was to that formative years. They came from somewhere abi. And few years after that people are also joining them abi. Everybody that have moved to Ibadan and have spent considerable years there are sons and daughters of Ibadan. Go to Olubadan palace and see how Mogagi of "new family" are being established.
You moved to Ibadan in 1700 years, I moved there in 1800 years and so on. It is a complex city from that angle.
Whether that are true sons and daughters of Ibadan or not, everybody in Ibadan today should know that there progenitors were not there in five hundreds ago. Where did they come from ?
This is applicable to every town, nation of the Earth

You're delusional.....you clearly don't understand the concept of founding fathers/families and how ibadan was really formed and taken by the present day oyo's.......I won't waste my time arguing with you.

ajbabs:

There is no argument here. We are just visiting the memory lane.
Remember where we started from. The guy asked a question. We can do some justice to the question which visit little of history.
In my earlier submission, I have said that as of today ooo, Soun of Ogbomoso, Alafin of Oyo and Olubadan of Ibadan are co-first obas in Oyo State

Memory line was unnecessary and sarcastic. Fvck off.

JohnSin97:


Then after 1936 what was it called? Are you arguing for argument sake or are you just jobless? As the city grew and developed so did the title just like it was in england..... it's not to hold title of Ooni or whatever and be living in a glorified village...

What has tittle of ooni living in village got to do with this. Hope you know those who are ibadan indigenes today arent oyo only. Ibadan indigenes today are mixed people majorly from oyo, ijebu, ife

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggar
Rest in peace

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usmanbaba:

Just imagined, you have been brainwashed. You no come get sense again kpatakpata

I wasn't talking to you and I never quoted you. Na you no get sense with your rotten brain.

If you had sense, you would see that I said he spoke in the affirmative. If you are criticizing something, be fair in your judgments and don't be foolish to throway what you see.

If they predict something, you would say it isn't a direct prophecy, if they say direct prophecy, you would say it was a speculation and a guess work just because of your hatred for scams of religion.

And yes, I believe that many scams are in religion both Christianity and Islam and others but that's not to deny what any of them does right a times.

Common sense should tell you to first verify and ask for whatever you are not sure of or you shut up!

And for your info, I'm honorable enough to acknowledge whatever I see or hear from anywhere, it doesn't matter if that person is an imam, a pastor or a traditionalist.

His reign was very short and this was because he ascended the throne at a very old age.

I extend my condolences to his immediate family, the Ibadan people and the Oyo state government on his demise.

May God Almighty grant his soul eternal rest.

They have 2 Oluibadan in the space of 8years. Why always choose old men close to the grave Everytime and not an energetic young man with sense and not the one that will abuse the seat. Ooni of Ife is indirectly abusing the seat with divorce here and there

The man who made K1 de ultimate...RIP kabiyesi.

ajbabs:

My assertion was to that formative years. They came from somewhere abi. And few years after that people are also joining them abi. Everybody that have moved to Ibadan and have spent considerable years there are sons and daughters of Ibadan. Go to Olubadan palace and see how Mogagi of "new family" are being established.
You moved to Ibadan in 1700 years, I moved there in 1800 years and so on. It is a complex city from that angle.
Whether that are true sons and daughters of Ibadan or not, everybody in Ibadan today should know that there progenitors were not there in five hundreds ago. Where did they come from ?
This is applicable to every town, nation of the Earth

You are partly right. However those who are ibadan indigenes are true son and daughters. Everyone comes from somewhere