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Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 11:53am On Jan 16, 2022
We read of the deaths of ananias and sapphira in Acts. Does this still occur in our churches today? Do people fall down and die in today's churches? Why do you think it's no longer happening?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 12:12pm On Jan 16, 2022
The old testament is equally filled with people being struck to death for breaking one law or the other.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by efficiencie(m): 12:26pm On Jan 16, 2022
Who told you it is no longer happening? What is your evidence that it is no longer happening? If no one wrote about Ananias and Sapphira would you have read about it and known about it? Such events are not palatable and worthy of being advertised so you may not hear about it happening. You ought to conduct a participant observatory research in a living church where the acts of the spirit are manifest to see if the phenomenon you talk about happens or not.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 4:07am On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
We read of the deaths of ananias and sapphira in Acts. Does this still occur in our churches today? Do people fall down and die in today's churches? Why do you think it's no longer happening?
In the Old Covenant, the punishment for the sin of blasphemy was death, so it follows that in the New Covenant, the punishment for the same sin is also death. In the book of Acts, we read of the Old Covenant penalty for this sin doled out to the person of Herod who blasphemed God by stealing His glory. We also read of the New Covenant penalty for this sin laid upon Ananias and Sapphira, both of who lied against the Spirit of God. undecided

Why do we no longer see this in today's church, probably because what many worship isn't God but the idea of God fed them via the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches), all lies, that are far away from the Truth of God. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 10:45am On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
In the Old Covenant, the punishment for the sin of blasphemy was death, so it follows that in the New Covenant, the punishment for the same sin is also death. In the book of Acts, we read of the Old Covenant penalty for this sin doled out to the person of Herod who blasphemed God by stealing His glory. We also read of the New Covenant penalty for this sin laid upon Ananias and Sapphira, both of who lied against the Spirit of God. undecided

Why do we no longer see this in today's church, probably because what many worship isn't God but the idea of God fed them via the doctrines and traditions of men(and their churches), all lies, that are far away from the Truth of God. undecided
Nice answer, but if I may get you, are you saying that people no longer die in churches because they stopped worshiping the true God?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 10:47am On Jan 17, 2022
efficiencie:
Who told you it is no longer happening? What is your evidence that it is no longer happening? If no one wrote about Ananias and Sapphira would you have read about it and known about it? Such events are not palatable and worthy of being advertised so you may not hear about it happening. You ought to conduct a participant observatory research in a living church where the acts of the spirit are manifest to see if the phenomenon you talk about happens or not.
That's why I posted this online so that people like you could enlighten us. Please sir could you educate us? Which church is this still going on?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 10:53am On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

Nice answer, but if I may get you, are you saying that people no longer die in churches because they stopped worshiping the true God?
I believe so. These churches of men we see and have today are built on false doctrines and traditions - tributes to false gods which are far away from God and His Truth. Surely, the Almighty has no need to intervene when these people 'blaspheme' these false images they worship. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Dtruthspeaker: 11:50am On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
We read of the deaths of ananias and sapphira in Acts. Does this still occur in our churches today? Do people fall down and die in today's churches? Why do you think it's no longer happening?

Did you not hear that God is Coming?

So He is Coming to Handle things Directly!

And that is aside the fact that God has left churches.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by bobestman(m): 2:11pm On Jan 17, 2022
It's cos the Sovereign Father is not who you all Worship in your Churches and Religions. The The chosen people and their Ways was cut off in that Era. The powers that rule the world created another Way and called it Christianity aka Churchianity. They even claimed to be Spiritual Isreal. They even reformed the Word and told you that the Creator of heaven and earth who can never change, changed. They said He said he established a New Covenant. They called His Word Old. They don't know that the Law was true and never changed. They don't know the purpose of the Messiah is to restore and fulfill the Law which wicked Priests have corrupted. He only abrogated that Law and that's why He was murdered. He was killed unjustly by the Powers that be, he didn't die for anyone's sins. You are to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Many thing they told you on Religion are lies created by Men

Meanwhile God Almighty only made a Covenant with his people they wrote as Isreal. Those people were killed and scattered which gave the Vatican chance to create Religions from their Ways. Because of what was done to the Chosen people whom Salvation must come from (John 4:22) and the adding to the true Words by the Vatican (Daniel 7:24) everything was paused till endtime (Dan 4:9'12) untill the Restoration or gathering of that people (Isaiah 11:11-12) who will tell the Word the truth or preach the everlasting message before the end (Mathew 24:14). You Worship what you don't know for Salvation comes from the Hebrews/Jews

If you doubt it, many of the punishment against sins in the Torah is same as that in the new except those the Messiah corrected. Punishment for Blasphemy is death in both the Torah and NT. They partook in the Feasts and Sabbath too. This tells you that nothing was changed except things the Messiah Modified. If the true Messiah and God Almighty has hands in your Religions, there would have been calm in them and around the world. They will only be revealed when all you Religion are gone and the true Way will be established by them. There presence will always be here when they come. If you truly worship the true Father and Messiah, 90% of your Churches will not be here cos the fire of judgement would have blown them away. Everything was on hold till the time of Correction and Restitution of all things. We are in the period of grace. Whether you are in Religion or not, your Righteousness is what will work for you or save you. When the truth comes shall all those things be restored again. This is why I tell you ppl that your Religions were created by Men not the Sovereign God. He is not in any of them.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 2:25pm On Jan 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Did you not hear that God is Coming?

So He is Coming to Handle things Directly!

And that is aside the fact that God has left churches.
If I get you, are you saying that when God comes, people would start to die in the churches as of time of old?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 2:27pm On Jan 17, 2022
bobestman:
It's cos the Sovereign Father is not who you all Worship in your Churches and Religions. The The chosen people and their Ways was cut off in that Era. The powers that rule the world created another Way and called it Christianity aka Churchianity. They even claimed to be Spiritual Isreal. They even reformed the Word and told you that the Creator of heaven and earth who can never change, changed. They said He said he established a New Covenant. They called His Word Old. They don't know that the Law was true and never changed. They don't know the purpose of the Messiah is to restore and fulfill the Law which wicked Priests have corrupted. He only abrogated that Law and that's why He was murdered. He was killed unjustly by the Powers that be, he didn't die for anyone's sins. You are to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. Many thing they told you on Religion are lies created by Men

Meanwhile God Almighty only made a Covenant with his people they wrote as Isreal. Those people were killed and scattered which gave the Vatican chance to create Religions from their Ways. Because of what was done to the Chosen people whom Salvation must come from (John 4:22) and the adding to the true Words by the Vatican (Daniel 7:24) everything was paused till endtime (Dan 4:9'12) untill the Restoration or gathering of that people (Isaiah 11:11-12) who will tell the Word the truth or preach the everlasting message before the end (Mathew 24:14). You Worship what you don't know for Salvation comes from the Hebrews/Jews

If you doubt it, many of the punishment against sins in the Torah is same as that in the new except those the Messiah corrected. Punishment for Blasphemy is death in both the Torah and NT. They partook in the Feasts and Sabbath too. This tells you that nothing was changed except things the Messiah Modified. If the true Messiah and God Almighty has hands in your Religions, there would have been calm in them and around the world. They will only be revealed when all you Religion are gone and the true Way will be established by them. There presence will always be here when they come. If you truly worship the true Father and Messiah, 90% of your Churches will not be here cos the fire of judgement would have blown them away. Everything was on hold till the time of Correction and Restitution of all things. We are in the period of grace. Whether you are in Religion or not, your Righteousness is what will work for you or save you. When the truth comes shall all those things be restored again. This is why I tell you ppl that your Religions were created by Men not the Sovereign God. He is not in any of them.
In summary, you are saying that at the time of Restitution of all things, people would start dying in the church as of times of old?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 2:29pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I believe so. These churches of men we see and have today are built on false doctrines and traditions - tributes to false gods which are far away from God and His Truth. Surely, the Almighty has no need to intervene when these people 'blaspheme' these false images they worship. undecided
Hence we would no longer hear of people dying in our churches until the church of God is back to earth?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by bobestman(m): 3:07pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

In summary, you are saying that at the time of Restitution of all things, people would start dying in the church as of times of old?
Lol
Things need not be Restored if their was no corruption. What you all were told in your Religions are not the true stories. The Truth must come out and correct all those lies for those who care to listen before their will be judgement.
There will be no Church when things are Restored. Was it not written that judgement begins in houses who claim to preach the Truth about God Almighty but teach lies?
The Restitution/Restoration or Correction also comes with Sanitation that separates the good and the bad for judgement and after it, their will be a brand New Eatth without blindness/sin

Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 3:27pm On Jan 17, 2022
bobestman:

Lol
Things need not be Restored if their was no corruption. What you all were told in your Religions are not the true stories. The Truth must come out and correct all those lies for those who care to listen before their will be judgement.
There will be no Church when things are Restored. Was it not written that judgement begins in houses who claim to preach the Truth about God Almighty but teach lies?
The Restitution/Restoration or Correction also comes with Sanitation that separates the good and the bad for judgement and after it, their will be a brand New Eatth without blindness/sin
This is entering another topic, I was looking at the death of Ananias and Sappiha and it seems you are saying that such form of death would be restored in the future.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by bigjackass: 5:08pm On Jan 17, 2022
efficiencie:
Who told you it is no longer happening? What is your evidence that it is no longer happening? If no one wrote about Ananias and Sapphira would you have read about it and known about it? Such events are not palatable and worthy of being advertised so you may not hear about it happening. You ought to conduct a participant observatory research in a living church where the acts of the spirit are manifest to see if the phenomenon you talk about happens or not.
A while ago it was all over the news that a young girl was gang raped and murdered inside a church. Rccg to be precise. They raped the girl, killed her, and left her corpse right there and walked out of the church. Such a gruesome act was carried out in the presence of the living God and the perpetrators did not fall down and die. Yeyeundecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 5:34pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

Hence we would no longer hear of people dying in our churches until the church of God is back to earth?
Your churches are founded on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, and hence are antiChrist undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 6:19pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Your churches are founded on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, and hence are antiChrist undecided
Ok, You mean that people still die for lying in your church?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by bobestman(m): 6:25pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

This is entering another topic, I was looking at the death of Ananias and Sappiha and it seems you are saying that such form of death would be restored in the future.
I already told you. The Sovereign God in that Era is not the one you all Worship today in your Churches and Religions. He can't behold inequity anywhere He puts His name. The true gospel was corrupted by the Vatican. They created another from it. Time is given for their lies to pass out before the truth is Restored and it will be with a Sanitation. Remember the Times given to Daniel and which also written in the book of Revelation --A time and Time Time...many don't understand what it means. It's the time given to end the corruption and Religion and the ushering or Restoration of the truth or lost Way cos the First shall be the Last.There was nothing like church in that Era.

The attached pic is talking about your Religions. Even many of the Chosen or Elect shall be decieved let alone many of you in Religions. The Messiah will come as a great Priest, remember the BRANCH in Zachariah 12. He will gather His people Isreal first (Isaiah11:11-12). Then many of them will be enlighten in the true Way before they will go forth and teach the Gentiles. The Gentiles will then know the True God of IsioraEle aka Isreal. This is what it means that salvation is of the Hebrew/Jews. There are references in Isaiah, Zachariah and Malachi 3 to support that image. The Gentiles will know the Sovereign God through the people of Isreal but the Messiah will gather his people first

Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 6:35pm On Jan 17, 2022
bobestman:

I already told you. The Sovereign God in that Era is not the one you all Worship today in your Churches and Religions. He can't behold inequity anywhere He puts His name. The true gospel was corrupted by the Vatican. They created another from it. Time is given for their lies to pass out before the truth is Restored and it will be with a Sanitation. Remember the Times given to Daniel and which also written in the book of Revelation --A time and Time Time...many don't understand what it means. It's the time given to end the corruption and Religion and the ushering or Restoration of the truth or lost Way cos the First shall be the Last.There was nothing like church in that Era.

The attached pic is talking about your Religions. Even many of the Chosen or Elect shall be decieved let alone many of you in Religions
You realize you are talking about another topic right? You refused to answer the question I asked. We could always discuss your religious point of view but for now, let's go back to topic
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
Ok, You mean that people still die for lying in your church?
The foundation of your churches are layed on lies - the leaven of the pharisees aka the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned His followers never to submit themselves to- so nothing your churches do can even equate to the Truth of God. Nothing that comes out of them can be of God as it is all of another master. undecided

The Church referenced in Acts 5 - the group of believers at that time - were those who were of God's
Truth. And those who worship God in Truth cannot also belong to your churches. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Dtruthspeaker: 7:11pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

If I get you, are you saying that when God comes, people would start to die in the churches as of time of old?

You know that I mean that When God Comes all evils everywhere shall be taken to their deaths!
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by bobestman(m): 7:13pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

You realize you are talking about another topic right? You refused to answer the question I asked. We could always discuss your religious point of view but for now, let's go back to topic
Hahaha you are the one who see it as another topic. I already answered your question. I also open your eyes to see the ills in your religion.

The Sovereign God in that Era is not who you Worship in your Churches. Otherwise what happened to Ananias and Saphira will be happening in your Churches. Your Churches are 90% worst than that of that era. Grace was outpoured irrespective of religion till the time the truth will be Restored
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 9:25pm On Jan 17, 2022
bobestman:

Hahaha you are the one who see it as another topic. I already answered your question. I also open your eyes to see the ills in your religion.

The Sovereign God in that Era is not who you Worship in your Churches. Otherwise what happened to Ananias and Saphira will be happening in your Churches. Your Churches are 90% worst than that of that era. Grace was outpoured irrespective of religion till the time the truth will be Restored
Now I get your answer. You believe people would still be dying in the church of God. Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 9:26pm On Jan 17, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


You know that I mean that When God Comes all evils everywhere shall be taken to their deaths!
How about now?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 9:28pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
The foundation of your churches are layed on lies - the leaven of the pharisees aka the doctrines and traditions of men which Jesus Christ warned His followers never to submit themselves to- so nothing your churches do can even equate to the Truth of God. Nothing that comes out of them can be of God as it is all of another master. undecided

The Church referenced in Acts 5 - the group of believers at that time - were those who were of God's
Truth. And those who worship God in Truth cannot also belong to your churches. undecided
I get your point, you ting I attend some bad church. So I ask you, do people still fall and die in your church. If so what is the name of your church?
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 9:32pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
1. I get your point, you ting I attend some bad church. 2. So I ask you, do people still fall and die in your church. If so what is the name of your church?
1. This isn't about attending a bad church or a good church - all your churches are bad to begin with. There foundation which goes even further than Rome was laid on false doctrines and traditions and so not of God. undecided

2. We are all instead called to belong to another Church, the one that is built by Jesus Christ- by His own hands - and operated by Him through His Truth and Spirit. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 9:40pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. This isn't about attending a bad church or a good church - all your churches are bad to begin with. There foundation which goes even further than Rome was laid on false doctrines and traditions and so not of God. undecided

2. We are all instead called to belong to another Church, the one that is built by Jesus Christ- by His own hands - and operated by Him through His Truth and Spirit. undecided
I understand your argument, many Christians these days engage in the 'my Chuch is better than your argument'. So I get it.
But I only wanted to know if the Ananias and Sappiha incident still takes place in your church
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 10:03pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:

I understand your argument, many Christians these days engage in the 'my Chuch is better than your argument'. So I get it.
But I only wanted to know if the Ananias and Sappiha incident still takes place in your church
The reason Ananias and Sapphira were struck down had to do with the fact that they were of the Church built by Jesus Christ - the vine! undecided

What we call churches today are in no one directly connected to Jesus Christ - they are instead founded on false doctrines and traditions of men. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 10:06pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
The reason Ananias and Sapphira were struck down had to do with the fact that they were of the Church built by Jesus Christ - the vine! undecided

What we call churches today are in no one directly connected to Jesus Christ - they are instead founded on false doctrines and traditions of men. undecided
I get your point.< you feel all churches are false hence people no longer die in churches.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 10:16pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
I get your point.< you feel all churches are false hence people no longer die in churches.
It's has nothing to do with feelings though. undecided
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by tctrills: 10:21pm On Jan 17, 2022
Kobojunkie:
It's has nothing to do with feelings though. undecided
It's your feeling as long as you don't have proof.
Re: Why Don't People Die In Churches Anymore Like Ananias And Sappiha by Kobojunkie: 10:24pm On Jan 17, 2022
tctrills:
It's your feeling as long as you don't have proof.
The proof is founds in the teachings of Jesus Christ, the one who made it clear from 2000 years ago that that which is built on the doctrines and traditions of men, lies, cannot be of Him. undecided

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