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Evil Bigger Than Satan. by Mikkystorm: 5:29pm On Jan 25, 2022
Are you aware that satan isn't the greatest evil of all? Are you aware that there is something greater than him?
Proverbs 16:18 King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
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The cliche ' pride goeth before a fall ', preached in many churches, is explained to be a proud person falling later on. But, let's look a little deeper here.
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You know, the fall of satan was because of what? PRIDE. So, pride was there before satan fell. It Goeth before a fall.
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James 4:7
King James Bible
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
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In this chapter of James, it tells us that God has given us the capability, capacity and ability to resist and defend ourselves against satan and also put him on flight. That's wonderful.
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James 4:6
King James Bible
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
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In this verse, it says God resists the proud. Wow! So if we are to resist satan, and put him to flight, it clearly means we have power over him. And also, it means that satan isn't in God's league. But who's the proud for God to resist? Wow! It shows that for a proud person, his battle is with the Lord.
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In all this emphasis, what do you denote?

Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by sonmvayina(m): 5:50pm On Jan 25, 2022
“Lucifer” does not exist (neither does the mythical "devil"wink.

The term "lucifer" is first found in Jerome's Latin translation (known as the Vulgate).

It stems from the Latin lucem ferre (bringer, or bearer, of light.).

The term lucem ferre was Latin for the planet Venus.

Not a devil.

Not a mythical evil being.

A planet.

Venus is very bright when it first appears in the morning sky in the east around sunrise.

Venus (lucem ferre) was mistaken for a bright star in ancient times.

Many pagans worshiped the planet (which they thought was a star) as a god or goddess (the planet Venus was worshiped as a goddess by the ancient Romans).

The Babylonians worshiped Inanna, a goddess associated with the planet Venus which at that time was regarded as two stars, the "morning star" and the "evening star."

Some Christian English translations use the word "lucifer" in their version of Y'shayahu / Isaiah 14:12 (e.g. King James Version). More modern translations, including the NIV, have "son of the dawn" which is certainly more correct.

In Hebrew the word being translated as "lucifer" or "son of the dawn" is הֵילֵל / heilél (morning star). In Y'shayahu / Isaiah the prophet uses it in a phrase as a bitingly sarcastic reference to the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and his fall:
אֵ֛יךְ נָפַ֥לְתָּ מִשָּׁמַ֖יִם הֵילֵ֣ל בֶּן־שָׁ֑חַר נִגְדַּ֣עְתָּ לָאָ֔רֶץ חוֹלֵ֖שׁ עַל־גּוֹיִֽם׃

"How you have fallen from heaven, O הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר / Heilél ben-shachar / morning star son of the dawn..."

Heilél / הֵילֵל is translated as morning star. It is an old Hebrew name for the planet Venus when it first appeared in the morning sky.

Ben-Shachar / בֶּן-שָׁחַר is translated as son of the dawn.

"How far have you fallen from the sky (heaven) morning star (Venus), son of the dawn... You (Nebuchadnezzar) have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!" (Y'shayahu / Isaaih 14:12).

No lucifer. No devil.

Isaiah is saying that as the Babylonian leader Nebuchadnezzar is defeated so too are his gods defeated. This defeat includes his false god -- Venus, the morning star, which many worshiped.

The word "lucifer" didn't creep into Christian translations for 400 years, but thanks to translators using that word instead of "morning star" many Christians (and far too many Jews) think it is "lucifer the devil."

As an interesting aside, the Christian bible refers to Jesus as the "morning star" in Revelations 22:16, yet I can't think of one Christian who thinks that Jesus = Lucifer.

There is no devil. There are no demi-gods. There is only One G-d and He creates everything -- including good and evil.

The word "satan" which many think is the same as lucifer and equate with a devil is a misuse of the term. In Hebrew the word שָׂטָן / “satan" simply means an adversary. In the T'nach there are human and angelic adversaries (satans)...

Humans have adversaries.

G-d does not.

There is only one G-d.

He is all powerful.

There is no devil in Judaism. There are no "demi-gods." There is only one G-d and He created good and evil. "Forming 'Light' and creating 'Darkness', making 'Peace' and creating 'Evil' - I am HaShem and I do ALL these things" Isaiah 45:7.

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Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by oteneaaron(m): 11:38pm On Jan 25, 2022
sonmvayina:
“Lucifer” does not exist (neither does the mythical "devil"wink.

The term "lucifer" is first found in Jerome's Latin translation (known as the Vulgate).

It stems from the Latin lucem ferre (bringer, or bearer, of light.).

The term lucem ferre was Latin for the planet Venus.

Not a devil.

Not a mythical evil being.

A planet.

Venus is very bright when it first appears in the morning sky in the east around sunrise.

Venus (lucem ferre) was mistaken for a bright star in ancient times.

Many pagans worshiped the planet (which they thought was a star) as a god or goddess (the planet Venus was worshiped as a goddess by the ancient Romans).

The Babylonians worshiped Inanna, a goddess associated with the planet Venus which at that time was regarded as two stars, the "morning star" and the "evening star."

Some Christian English translations use the word "lucifer" in their version of Y'shayahu / Isaiah 14:12 (e.g. King James Version). More modern translations, including the NIV, have "son of the dawn" which is certainly more correct.

In Hebrew the word being translated as "lucifer" or "son of the dawn" is הֵילֵל / heilél (morning star). In Y'shayahu / Isaiah the prophet uses it in a phrase as a bitingly sarcastic reference to the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and his fall:
אֵ֛יךְ נָפַ֥לְתָּ מִשָּׁמַ֖יִם הֵילֵ֣ל בֶּן־שָׁ֑חַר נִגְדַּ֣עְתָּ לָאָ֔רֶץ חוֹלֵ֖שׁ עַל־גּוֹיִֽם׃

"How you have fallen from heaven, O הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר / Heilél ben-shachar / morning star son of the dawn..."

Heilél / הֵילֵל is translated as morning star. It is an old Hebrew name for the planet Venus when it first appeared in the morning sky.

Ben-Shachar / בֶּן-שָׁחַר is translated as son of the dawn.

"How far have you fallen from the sky (heaven) morning star (Venus), son of the dawn... You (Nebuchadnezzar) have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!" (Y'shayahu / Isaaih 14:12).

No lucifer. No devil.

Isaiah is saying that as the Babylonian leader Nebuchadnezzar is defeated so too are his gods defeated. This defeat includes his false god -- Venus, the morning star, which many worshiped.

The word "lucifer" didn't creep into Christian translations for 400 years, but thanks to translators using that word instead of "morning star" many Christians (and far too many Jews) think it is "lucifer the devil."

As an interesting aside, the Christian bible refers to Jesus as the "morning star" in Revelations 22:16, yet I can't think of one Christian who thinks that Jesus = Lucifer.

There is no devil. There are no demi-gods. There is only One G-d and He creates everything -- including good and evil.

The word "satan" which many think is the same as lucifer and equate with a devil is a misuse of the term. In Hebrew the word שָׂטָן / “satan" simply means an adversary. In the T'nach there are human and angelic adversaries (satans)...

Humans have adversaries.

G-d does not.

There is only one G-d.

He is all powerful.

There is no devil in Judaism. There are no "demi-gods." There is only one G-d and He created good and evil. "Forming 'Light' and creating 'Darkness', making 'Peace' and creating 'Evil' - I am HaShem and I do ALL these things" Isaiah 45:7.




WORD

I can only imagine how much research you must have done to dissect the history of religion as we know it today.

I am still on my path to understand the past, so I can understand how mentally draining it can be sometimes.

Your words show how much knowledge about the past you have acquired over time.

Kindly accept my sincere congratulations!!

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Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by sonmvayina(m): 11:12am On Jan 26, 2022
oteneaaron:


WORD

I can only imagine how much research you must have done to dissect the history of religion as we know it today.

I am still on my path to understand the past, so I can understand how mentally draining it can be sometimes.

Your words show how much knowledge about the past you have acquired over time.

Kindly accept my sincere congratulations!!

Thanks..

I try to set them straight..
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by killyaselfie: 12:37pm On Jan 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


Thanks..

I try to set them straight..

https://nojesus4jews.weebly.com/sophiees-blog/so-what-about-lucifer-isnt-that-the-devil-in-the-tnach

Now you and the Jew you stole it from should apply the same standards to Judaism.
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by sonmvayina(m): 12:54pm On Jan 26, 2022
killyaselfie:


https://nojesus4jews.weebly.com/sophiees-blog/so-what-about-lucifer-isnt-that-the-devil-in-the-tnach

Now you and the Jew you stole it from should apply the same standards to Judaism.

It' was Judaism first..
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by killyaselfie: 1:25pm On Jan 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


It' was Judaism first..

Of course! Judaism first, Omenani last.

Judaism first because Jews bleed gold and shit diamonds. They are special snowflakes compared to the rest of humanity.

Judaism first because nothing existed before Jew god created “heavens and earth”

Judaism first because civilization didn’t exist before Jews.

Judaism first because of all the concepts of deity ever invented only Jew god is real. Excuse me, I mean “G-d”!

Judaism first because ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia didn’t exist.

Judaism first because you have been mentally enslaved.
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by Nobody: 1:46pm On Jan 26, 2022
Mikkystorm:
Are you aware that satan isn't the greatest evil of all? Are you aware that there is something greater than him?
Proverbs 16:18 King James Bible
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.
.
The cliche ' pride goeth before a fall ', preached in many churches, is explained to be a proud person falling later on. But, let's look a little deeper here.
.
You know, the fall of satan was because of what? PRIDE. So, pride was there before satan fell. It Goeth before a fall.
.
James 4:7
King James Bible

Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.
.
In this chapter of James, it tells us that God has given us the capability, capacity and ability to resist and defend ourselves against satan and also put him on flight. That's wonderful.
.
James 4:6
King James Bible
But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.
.
In this verse, it says God resists the proud. Wow! So if we are to resist satan, and put him to flight, it clearly means we have power over him. And also, it means that satan isn't in God's league. But who's the proud for God to resist? Wow! It shows that for a proud person, his battle is with the Lord.
.
In all this emphasis, what do you denote?

Thank you for the Emphasis.

However, I’ll like to let you know this, that evil is an act.

An act is an action. Something that is done. Act means to take action.. or to do something.

Now Evil in itself is an act of doing something that is profoundly immoral or wicked. What this means is that for something immoral or wicked to be done.. it has to be done by someone or something

Satan, however is just one of the Nick-names given to LUCIFER. Just like the word Devil.

Satan means The Accuser. This is just a reflection of one of the characters of Lucifer (character coined through his acts which are evil) he is also a deceiver, a doubt sower and he is also into condemning.

In the book of John chapter 8 verses 44. Jesus was trying to explain the wicked ways of the Sadducee’s and Scribes, ways which are evil in Nature(refer to definition above) that they are not doing these acts by themselves, instead they are being controlled by the Original owner of these acts who is Lucifer. Also called the devil.

Quote: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it

In conclusion: An Act can never be greater than the actor. Because the actor is the perpetrator of the act. Your acts may live as a memory in the heart and minds of people long after the perpetrator is gone but those act only lives as a qualification of you.

Hence Evil cannot be greater than Satan. Rather Evil qualifies Satan as That is his way of doing things.

I hope this helps.

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Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by sonmvayina(m): 2:38pm On Jan 26, 2022
killyaselfie:


Of course! Judaism first, Omenani last.

Judaism first because Jews bleed gold and shit diamonds. They are special snowflakes compared to the rest of humanity.

Judaism first because nothing existed before Jew god created “heavens and earth”

Judaism first because civilization didn’t exist before Jews.

Judaism first because of all the concepts of deity ever invented only Jew god is real. Excuse me, I mean “G-d”!

Judaism first because ancient Egypt and Mesopotamia didn’t exist.

Judaism first because you have been mentally enslaved.


Which brand of weed are you on?

I will like to know your surplier.

Are you even following the discussion?

Or you just saying random stuff..

Which ever one, you need to seek psychiatric help.
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by killyaselfie: 2:50pm On Jan 26, 2022
sonmvayina:


Which brand of weed are you on?

I will like to know your surplier.

Are you even following the discussion?

Or you just saying random stuff..

Which ever one, you need to seek psychiatric help.


You already have suppliers. “Judaism first” was your answer to the previous post exposing one of your suppliers. You simpleminded ebed.
Re: Evil Bigger Than Satan. by Dangrace01: 4:54pm On Jan 26, 2022
sonmvayina:
“Lucifer” does not exist (neither does the mythical "devil"wink.

The term "lucifer" is first found in Jerome's Latin translation (known as the Vulgate).

It stems from the Latin lucem ferre (bringer, or bearer, of light.).

The term lucem ferre was Latin for the planet Venus.

Not a devil.

Not a mythical evil being.

A planet.

Venus is very bright when it first appears in the morning sky in the east around sunrise.

Venus (lucem ferre) was mistaken for a bright star in ancient times.

Many pagans worshiped the planet (which they thought was a star) as a god or goddess (the planet Venus was worshiped as a goddess by the ancient Romans).

The Babylonians worshiped Inanna, a goddess associated with the planet Venus which at that time was regarded as two stars, the "morning star" and the "evening star."

Some Christian English translations use the word "lucifer" in their version of Y'shayahu / Isaiah 14:12 (e.g. King James Version). More modern translations, including the NIV, have "son of the dawn" which is certainly more correct.

In Hebrew the word being translated as "lucifer" or "son of the dawn" is הֵילֵל / heilél (morning star). In Y'shayahu / Isaiah the prophet uses it in a phrase as a bitingly sarcastic reference to the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar II and his fall:
אֵ֛יךְ נָפַ֥לְתָּ מִשָּׁמַ֖יִם הֵילֵ֣ל בֶּן־שָׁ֑חַר נִגְדַּ֣עְתָּ לָאָ֔רֶץ חוֹלֵ֖שׁ עַל־גּוֹיִֽם׃

"How you have fallen from heaven, O הֵילֵל בֶּן-שָׁחַר / Heilél ben-shachar / morning star son of the dawn..."

Heilél / הֵילֵל is translated as morning star. It is an old Hebrew name for the planet Venus when it first appeared in the morning sky.

Ben-Shachar / בֶּן-שָׁחַר is translated as son of the dawn.

"How far have you fallen from the sky (heaven) morning star (Venus), son of the dawn... You (Nebuchadnezzar) have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!" (Y'shayahu / Isaaih 14:12).

No lucifer. No devil.

Isaiah is saying that as the Babylonian leader Nebuchadnezzar is defeated so too are his gods defeated. This defeat includes his false god -- Venus, the morning star, which many worshiped.

The word "lucifer" didn't creep into Christian translations for 400 years, but thanks to translators using that word instead of "morning star" many Christians (and far too many Jews) think it is "lucifer the devil."

As an interesting aside, the Christian bible refers to Jesus as the "morning star" in Revelations 22:16, yet I can't think of one Christian who thinks that Jesus = Lucifer.

There is no devil. There are no demi-gods. There is only One G-d and He creates everything -- including good and evil.

The word "satan" which many think is the same as lucifer and equate with a devil is a misuse of the term. In Hebrew the word שָׂטָן / “satan" simply means an adversary. In the T'nach there are human and angelic adversaries (satans)...

Humans have adversaries.

G-d does not.

There is only one G-d.

He is all powerful.

There is no devil in Judaism. There are no "demi-gods." There is only one G-d and He created good and evil. "Forming 'Light' and creating 'Darkness', making 'Peace' and creating 'Evil' - I am HaShem and I do ALL these things" Isaiah 45:7.




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