Highman56:

U r an ignorant person.

I agree... enlighten me by answering the question.

Show how knowledgeable you are

Honestly speaking, war is never a good thing.

Cvesta:


Have you heard of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria and Libya?

Secondly who is NATO defending Europe from if you say that is the new Objective and why don't they accept Russia to be a member or is Russia no more in Europe ?

Was NATO forces fighting Russia forces in those countries?
the question I asked was simple but it seems you have a problem with comprehension.

Who's NATO defending Europe from? you do know that question is insane right... that's like saying pre boko haram... why does Nigeria have an army? We weren't fighting any war so who was our army defending us from.
That's a question an educated person is asking in this era. SMH

Simple, they don't want Russia to join. NATO rejected Georgia and Ukraine request to join too. Does that mean they are also against those two??

pansophist:


If you actually understoond my previous answer to your question, there would be no need for this. Regardless, I'm not sure if you intentionally want to keep burying your head in the sand, or you're suffering from a chronic propaganda disorder, in any case, let's find out. I'll ask you some determining questions and we shall proceed from there. Please answer it to the best of your ability.

1. If the US apply the Monroe doctrine across all western and Southern hemisphere, an area over the size of Africa, why can't Russia do the same?

2. Why did Ukraine not implement the Minsk agreement ? Zelensky agreed to during the declaring in Minsk alongside Merkel, Putin, Macron, and Poroshenko, what's holding it on stands till since eight years now ?

3. How is it acceptable that a democratically elected leader (Victor Yanukovich) was overthrowned illegally, seizing power from the people and giving it to an anti-Russian puppet?

4. If Nato is not an offensive organisation (though it claims its only for defense), why was it used to bomb Syria, Belgrade, Afghanistan, Libya, to name a few?

Please answer truthfully and don't skip any. Hopefully in your bid to respond truthfully, your heavily propagandized mind would be released to the truth, not what you darling western CNN and BBC wants you to believe.

lol... nairalanders will never change.. SMH

You said and I can quote you on that, Ukraine allowed US to use them. I asked you how they did that.. you listed 4 pointed on how Ukraine had disagreement with Russia.
My question which was what I asked the first time, from those points you listed, how do they benefits the US?

If Ukraine implemented the Minsk agreement, they'd lose control over Donbas, them losing or gaining control over that area, how is it to US advantage? that's what I asked you to explain because that would show how the US is using Ukraine.

You guys go on and on like Ukrainians don't have the mind to decide for themselves. The ones that are fighting now, are they taking orders from America to fight?
The brave soldiers that blew himself to jeopardise the bridge, did he had to call Washington first to get approval?

Answer the question I asked you first then I will gladly answer your crazy questions

neuf:


Was NATO forces fighting Russia forces in those countries?
the question I asked was simple but it seems you have a problem with comprehension.

Who's NATO defending Europe from? you do know that question is insane right... that's like saying pre boko haram... why does Nigeria have an army? We weren't fighting any war so who was our army defending us from.
That's a question an educated person is asking in this era. SMH

Simple, they don't want Russia to join. NATO rejected Georgia and Ukraine request to join too. Does that mean they are also against those two??

You are just blabbing. You haven't answered my question

Newboss:


Bro did you just ask how many country?

Libya was one of US's first experiments. Iraq also dey that list.

You couldn't possibly have forgotten what US can do.

Russia is THE embodiment of Soviet Union. Everyone knows this. It's the only thing remaining of the union

jeeez... no wonder Britain require us to take English test even though English is the English use in schools here.

You say Russia is the only country to resist the west. So therefore NATO is against Russia.
I asked you to mention at least one scenario where NATO forces have engaged Russian forces given all the numerous wars the US have been in.
You haven't done that

instead you're jumping around saying nothing. The Soviet Union was a communist Union which is what NATO didn't want in Western Europe. Russia is presently a democracy although loosely and here you are saying Russia is the embodiment of the Soviet Union. like do you even know what that word means

una dey tire person like this ehn

Cvesta:


You are just blabbing. You haven't answered my question

did you answer mine?

Greenerie:
[Brother,the west us behind all thus.many disguised soldiers entered Ukraine borders secretly,gave weapons to soldiers,first bomb some places and said Russia has started bombing.

They planned the whole thing and it all went as they planned.

Now Finland just said it wants to join Nato.They have seen that Ukraine is about giving up and wants negotiations,to settle with Putin.
Now they are plotting to use finland against Russia cos they also share a border,they are next door neighbors.look at Russia-finland map.

They are just out to trouble and torment Putin who wants to be on his own.



quote author=neuf post=110545223]y'all love the blame the West for everything.

When the WEST was busy shouting about an immediate invasion even down to how it will take place. Ukrainian President dismissed the intelligence while Nairaland zombies called it western propaganda.

When the so called WEST said they won't authorised military action in defense of Ukraine since last year but will give financial and military aid for Ukraine to defend itself will they focus on economic sanctions. Nairaland zombies said America was afraid of Russia, why won't they fight, yen yen yen.

Now that everything is playing out the way the western intelligence reported suddenly the west has abandoned Ukraine.

y'all funny tho

seek help... it will do you and your loved ones a lot of good

malvisguy212:
but still the same thing but different war. he visited front line

How can he visit FL when all the side are already blocked by Russia troops.
He can’t leave Kyiv

Uncle, I am in Poland right now, telling you wats happening next door.You think everyone is a nigerian kid on Nairaland with cheap data that expires at midnight?

This are classified information,u telling me to seek help.Do u know if I'm a foreignernot a Nigerian?
If my cousins and siblings are army officers?
U think everyone on here is a Nigerian?

U are to seek help cos u lack ability to think intelligently.I see ur just a little boy behind that keypad typing trash.

Go to bed,Son

neuf:


seek help... it will do you and your loved ones a lot of good

caye:


Many Nigerians ( house niggar) are perfectly brain dead: through the cancer called American religion and media.

Be bold enough and express your self better

chaseblack:
The man wants peace and security for his people but unfortunately he is seeking peace from the wrong place, only the prince of peace can bring peace.

Haters won't see how this guy stabilized Ukraine but all they want is Russia's show off just because they hate America.

One thing is sure, even if Russia invades and kills everyone in Ukraine, their day of reckoning is near!

They have touched the Apple of His eyes and they go see shege soon, just wait!

They are obsessed with America.
But give them visa to BTW Russia an US
You already know the answer!!!.

seunny4lif:

Today
The guy who is Kyiv

The president of Ukraine is leading the battle in the fronts line

neuf:


My question which was what I asked the first time, from those points you listed, how do they benefits the US?

If Ukraine implemented the Minsk agreement, they'd lose control over Donbas, them losing or gaining control over that area, how is it to US advantage? that's what I asked you to explain because that would show how the US is using Ukraine.

If Ukraine implements the Minsk agreement, it would make the region autonomous, and the puppet regime in Kyiv fears that they will be a stumbling block to their westward integration economically and militarily (Nato and EU).

This is the point of the maiden revolution in the first place, to purge Ukraine of any leaders that will be friendly to Moscow.

Greenerie:
Uncle, I am in Poland right now, telling you wats happening next door.You think everyone is a nigerian kid on Nairaland with cheap data that expires at midnight?

This are classified information,u telling me to seek help.Do u know if I'm a foreignernot a Nigerian?
If my cousins and siblings are army officers?
U think everyone on here is a Nigerian?

U are to seek help cos u lack ability to think intelligently.I see ur just a little boy behind that keypad typing trash.

Go to bed,Son

Well I'm in Ukraine and I'm calling your bluff... you're just full of shit rn

pansophist:


If Ukraine implements the Minsk agreement, it would make the region autonomous, and the puppet regime in Kyiv fears that they will be a stumbling block to their westward integration economically and militarily (Nato and EU).

This is the point of the maiden revolution in the first place, to purge Ukraine of any leaders that will be friendly to Moscow.

again missing the point of the question... What you just explained shows how it favours the current government of Ukraine that wants to join EU; not how its favors America that you claimed was using Ukraine against Russia.

how simple can a question be??

Odewaleadesoye:
This is a true and genuine leader.
My prayer goes with you and all the citizens of Ukraine.
You shall prevail.

Honestly speaking, war is never a good thing.
War turns your millions into useless papers that can't even buy your life.

May we never witness war in this country.

He is a foolish court jester that is playing checkers while others are playing chess. Who genuine epp?

The Ukrainian president is no brave man, How will u mobilise untrained citizens and force them to the defend against trained russian operatives, and the world is praising you for your act of stupidity, This is not bravery it's stupidity, the world's sense of right and wrong is alarming, and there is more to this than just who is good guy, who is bad guy, I just hope the war against Ukraine should end peacefully, and the pro-russian people of donbass finally gets relieved from the terror they are facing in Ukraine

neuf:


again missing the point of the question... What you just explained shows how it favours the current government of Ukraine that wants to join EU; not how its favors America that you claimed was using Ukraine against Russia.

how simple can a question be??

Sleep abeg... Argument no dey tire..


Wetin I know, be say none of you here . .. know s what's really going on between NATO,Russia (USSR)" conflicts.. ya'll are just quoting on the feeds you read and fed on ..

To everyone claiming we need youths to be the president of Nigeria, you see where political experience comes in . Which under 50 has the political strength and assets to deal with the political elites alone regardless of the the provisions made by law , reminds me of Jonathan . Ukraine is funny to elect a jester in the first place. The president doesn't even show any courage compared to his counterpart. I watched him addressing on TV man looks stressed and scared .

oklahrelo:




Sleep abeg... Argument no dey tire..


Wetin I know, be say none of you here . .. know s what's really going on between NATO,Russia (USSR)" conflicts.. ya'll are just quoting on the feeds you read and fed on ..

there's never a conflict.. which is what I've been saying all along. Those two were loosely allies against the Nazis. They differ on ideology.

Even at the heights of the cold War, Military personnel choose caution over letting it loose.

Heck the so call enemy of Russia constitute majority of Russia largest trading partner. First time I'd be hearing of an enemy looking to make theirs rich and prosperous.

think! it's that simple

[You can insult an elderly veteran.I won't exchange words with you. Thanks for insulting an elderly man.God bless you.

author=neuf post=110554770]

Well I'm in Ukraine and I'm calling your bluff... you're just full of shit rn [/quote]

Whazar:
This is an actor turned president oo but we all know a certain general that can’t tackle bandits

I know them too. Shame on them.

Greenerie:
[You can insult an elderly veteran.I won't exchange words with you. Thanks for insulting an elderly man.God bless you.

author=neuf post=110554770]

Well I'm in Ukraine and I'm calling your bluff... you're just full of shit rn

you're welcome

MyVILLAGEpeople:


Is this not Suleiman ??

this is sulemani zelenski the adopted spiritual brother of volodymyr zelenski

SarkinYarki:


Some of you are so unrealistic that you don't know Nigeria has been fighting a bitter war for the last 10 years in the NE

Which bitter war? The one your Paymaster has been sponsoring?

neuf:


there's never a conflict.. which is what I've been saying all along. Those two were loosely allies against the Nazis. They differ on ideology.

Even at the heights of the cold War, Military personnel choose caution over letting it loose.

Heck the so call enemy of Russia constitute majority of Russia largest trading partner. First time I'd be hearing of an enemy looking to make theirs rich and prosperous.

think! it's that simple

by USA and china trade internally, that does not mean they are necessarily buddies diplomatically. W Europe largely depend on Russia for gas because they have not found a viable alternative

TheOgaBoss:
by USA and china trade internally, that does not mean they are necessarily buddies diplomatically. W Europe largely depend on Russia for gas because they have not found a viable alternative

you miss the point of contention.

The whole point was how Ukraine will be used to attack Russia if it joins NATO.
so I was asking him to show anywhere that NATO and Russian has fought before.

like you have pointed out now with China. they are not buddies but it would be absurd for me to now say the US want to invade and attack China that's why it want Taiwan as an independent country.

neuf:


you miss the point of contention.

The whole point was how Ukraine will be used to attack Russia if it joins NATO.
so I was asking him to show anywhere that NATO and Russian has fought before.

like you have pointed out now with China. they are not buddies but it would be absurd for me to now say the US want to invade and attack China that's why it want Taiwan as an independent country.

they may not have fought before but they are foes. It's an open secret that Russia and USA have a very frosty diplomatic relations, besides why do u think NATO is interested in ukrain if not for it's strategic location to Russia. Lastly e
if NATO establishes missile bases in ukrain( if it had successfully joined) who do u think the missile would be targeted at? Definitely not the allies of USA in western Europe and Asia.
Addendum: the USA cannot invade china because there will be dire consequences, the USA has not even been able to invade small n Korea because of its possession of nuclear weapons despite all the defiant actions of n Korea( they just tested some ballistic missile see few weeks ago, in defiance of USA and un). Possession of Nuclear power is a game changer bro. That is what Iraq, Syria afghanistan and other USA victims in the past never had.

TheOgaBoss:
they may not have fought before but they are foes. Itt is an open secret that Russia and USA have a very frosty diplomatic relation, besides why do u think NATO is interested in ukrain if not for it's strategic location to china. Lastly ehrn NATO establishes missile bases in ukrain( it it had successfully joined) who do u think the missile would be targeted at? Definitely not the allies of USA in western Europe and Asia.

I'm not going thru this again.

Oga boss go look map first, how is Ukraine strategically located to China?

the way you guys twist ish backwards need to be studied. Ukraine wants to join NATO register on you guys radar as NATO wants Ukraine.
If Ukraine was that important, why did the so called interested NATO reject its request to join the first time?

Now that Sweden and Finland are expressing interest to join, tomorrow you guys will twist it to NATO is interested in Sweden and Finland.

lastly,Ukraine don't have any ballistic missiles so I don't know which one you think will be aimed at someone.

I'm tired abeg. Help me help you. Just go read about everything.
NATO, Russia, Ukraine, China, Geopolitics and the rest

neuf:


I'm not going thru this again.

Oga boss go look map first, how is Ukraine strategically located to China?

the way you guys twist ish backwards need to be studied. Ukraine wants to join NATO register on you guys radar as NATO wants Ukraine.
If Ukraine was that important, why did the so called interested NATO reject its request to join the first time?

Now that Sweden and Finland are expressing interest to join, tomorrow you guys will twist it to NATO is interested in Sweden and Finland.

lastly,Ukraine don't have any ballistic missiles so I don't know which one you think will be aimed at someone.

I'm tired abeg. Help me help you. Just go read about everything.
NATO, Russia, Ukraine, China, Geopolitics and the rest

I meant Russia, that was a typo

Oga ukrain may not have missile technology but NATO does and it establishes missile bases in many of its member countries