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Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by TruthinAction: 11:39pm On Mar 18, 2022
BornofGod108:


holy dressing is 50% of the requirement for entry into heaven and the other 50% is a pure heart - 2 Cor 7:1

You just made me laugh for minutes. I pity the kind bondage that you have been subjected to.

If you want to dress the Bible way, put on skirt or long gown. Even our Lord Jesus didn't put on trousers.

You just punish yourself with dogmas.

Even your Pastor who taught you this dogmas is trying to correct it.

I pray that more people will come out of this dogmas in Jesus name. Amen m
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:10am On Mar 19, 2022
BornofGod108:

holy dressing is 50% of the requirement for entry into heaven and the other 50% is a pure heart - 2 Cor 7:1

Says Mr Paul Rika! wink

Dressing has little to do with the Christian faith, we dress to cover and to appeal.
So it must be balanced otherwise onlookers will take our faith for extremism.
If those in our locality takes offense in the way we dress then we must make amendments not because it's mandatory but to save those who don't know that dressing has nothing to do with faith.
But in places where dressing is not offensive then we just need to be moderate in style! smiley

Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by Cordenify(m): 3:23am On Mar 19, 2022
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Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 7:31am On Mar 19, 2022
TruthinAction:


You just made me laugh for minutes. I pity the kind bondage that you have been subjected to.

If you want to dress the Bible way, put on skirt or long gown. Even our Lord Jesus didn't put on trousers.

You just punish yourself with dogmas.

Even your Pastor who taught you this dogmas is trying to correct it.

I pray that more people will come out of this dogmas in Jesus name. Amen m


you can go ahead and laugh, you are not the first, Festus did same to paul Act 26:24

but note
BEFORE YOU WEAR ANY CLOTHES (whether good or bad), YOU MUST HAVE PLANNED AND DECIDED WITHIN YOUR HEART. So your heart is affected positively or negatively by your dressing.
You can dress holy and yet without holy heart.
You can't dress seductively with a holy heart.
God demands Holiness of heart and Holiness in our outward appearance and character.
Be warned!
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 7:34am On Mar 19, 2022
TruthinAction:


You just made me laugh for minutes. I pity the kind bondage that you have been subjected to.

If you want to dress the Bible way, put on skirt or long gown. Even our Lord Jesus didn't put on trousers.

You just punish yourself with dogmas.

Even your Pastor who taught you this dogmas is trying to correct it.

I pray that more people will come out of this dogmas in Jesus name. Amen m


THE APPROVED COSTLY JEWELRIES
(Ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit).

"But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price" (I Peter 3:4).
In verse three of that chapter, Saint Peter revealed the needlessness and the emptiness of adorning ourselves with plaiting the hair (broided hair: Jerrycurling, wigs, attachments, perming and so on) and of wearing of gold (artificial jewelries: precious stones on our clothes, head ties, shoes; wrist chain watch, earrings, nose rings, wedding rings, rosary rings, necklace, tablets, pearls, beads and so on), or of putting on of apparel (Saint Paul called it "costly arrays", that's expensive clothing, ungodly laces, luxurious clothes and flamboyant head ties).
Paul also forbad godly women from all these heathenish idolatry (1 Timothy 2:9). That is not the jewelries God wants us to adorn ourselves with. But God wants to adorn us with jewelries, I mean costly jewelries...
I want to ask, what actually makes a woman glorious or beautiful? Hanging these idols on your body doesn't make you spiritually glorious, rather they turn you to be an enemy of God, proud, vain and dead!
Peter and Paul were filled with the holy ghost, they were holy men, not carnal men, they gave that commandments by the leading of God and your Bishop is saying "it doesn't matter?" Hmmm.
Holiness of heart is the only jewel women should seek for! The carnal beauty is death, but holy heart is life and peace. Sanctification of your heart from inbred depravity and evil desires should be your inmost desire and thirst!
To wear earrings and necklace are not for Holiness women. Peter said "let it not be the outward adorning..." But rather "but let it be the hidden man of the heart", that is Christ Jesus. Christ in me, the hope of heaven.
You can't have true Christ in your heart when these things are on your body. Get them off your body! Your body is the temple of God.
The meek and quiet spirit is the spirit of Christ, it is the evidence that a man is transformed and renewed in love. It is Sanctification.

Holy heart: no jewelries, no perming, no Jerry curling, no precious stones... Just be natural...
Destroy those things or set them on fire. Holiness of heart is that hidden man of the heart. Christ is Holiness personified and when he comes within, the body must conform to his holy standard.
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:04am On Mar 19, 2022
I wonder what this your pastors are teaching you guys because ancient servants of God do put on gold and silver:


When he saw the nose ring and the bracelets on the hands of his sister and heard the words of his sister Re·bekʹah, who was saying, “This is the way the man spoke to me,” he came to meet the man, who was still there standing by the camels at the spring Genesis 24:30

Rebekah the wife of Isaac put on a Nose ring and Bracelet so go and tell Mr Rika that he got this one wrong completely.
What Peter meant is that women of faith in ancient times do concentrate more on their virtuous lifestyles as beauty to please their husbands than whatever they are putting on:

Do not let your adornment be external—the braiding of hair and the wearing of gold ornaments or fine clothing— 1Peter 3:3

Now ask yourself follower of Mr Rika, if Peter meant that the women shouldn't put on all the things mentioned above, does it mean that they shouldn't put on FINE CLOTHING too? cheesy



BornofGod108:



THE APPROVED COSTLY JEWELRIES
(Ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit).

"But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price" (I Peter 3:4).
In verse three of that chapter, Saint Peter revealed the needlessness and the emptiness of adorning ourselves with plaiting the hair (broided hair: Jerrycurling, wigs, attachments, perming and so on) and of wearing of gold (artificial jewelries: precious stones on our clothes, head ties, shoes; wrist chain watch, earrings, nose rings, wedding rings, rosary rings, necklace, tablets, pearls, beads and so on), or of putting on of apparel (Saint Paul called it "costly arrays", that's expensive clothing, ungodly laces, luxurious clothes and flamboyant head ties).
Paul also forbad godly women from all these heathenish idolatry (1 Timothy 2:9). That is not the jewelries God wants us to adorn ourselves with. But God wants to adorn us with jewelries, I mean costly jewelries...
I want to ask, what actually makes a woman glorious or beautiful? Hanging these idols on your body doesn't make you spiritually glorious, rather they turn you to be an enemy of God, proud, vain and dead!
Peter and Paul were filled with the holy ghost, they were holy men, not carnal men, they gave that commandments by the leading of God and your Bishop is saying "it doesn't matter?" Hmmm.
Holiness of heart is the only jewel women should seek for! The carnal beauty is death, but holy heart is life and peace. Sanctification of your heart from inbred depravity and evil desires should be your inmost desire and thirst!
To wear earrings and necklace are not for Holiness women. Peter said "let it not be the outward adorning..." But rather "but let it be the hidden man of the heart", that is Christ Jesus. Christ in me, the hope of heaven.
You can't have true Christ in your heart when these things are on your body. Get them off your body! Your body is the temple of God.
The meek and quiet spirit is the spirit of Christ, it is the evidence that a man is transformed and renewed in love. It is Sanctification.

Holy heart: no jewelries, no perming, no Jerry curling, no precious stones... Just be natural...
Destroy those things or set them on fire. Holiness of heart is that hidden man of the heart. Christ is Holiness personified and when he comes within, the body must conform to his holy standard.
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 9:05am On Mar 19, 2022
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111164944]I wonder what this your pastors are teaching you guys because ancient servants of God do put on gold and silver:
[quote]

remember that Abraham came from Ur of Chaldeans, and these people were not children of God! and the use these things freely, that explains why Rebekah had those things on!

God Commanded his children to remove those things from their body (Exo 33:4-6)
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by justlove91(m): 10:07am On Mar 19, 2022
Lighthouse50:
Permit me to share my opinion. Both parties are correct. Kobojunkie is saying as a true believer you must have dealt with your desires and must have died to flesh. the spirit should be leading you and not the flesh. As for the other party, they are concerned about the weak men who are still controlled by their flesh. So how do we balance this?

Instead of micro managing the dressing of females, why can't the weak men learn self control. All their slutty dresses can only trigger what is already inside. Instead of trying to change others why can't we change ourselves.

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Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:19am On Mar 19, 2022
BornofGod108:

remember that Abraham came from Ur of Chaldeans, and these people were not children of God! and the use these things freely, that explains why Rebekah had those things on!
God Commanded his children to remove those things from their body (Exo 33:4-6)

Of course God counselled the Israelites several times on their way to the promised land but that never turned into a law that must be kept throughout their generations:
For instance:
God punished them for eating too much meat, for having sex with midianite women, for complaining on their way to the promised land. So what happened at Exodus 33:4-6 never became a law otherwise the same God won't later make such things and used it to adorn His people:

"’Later I passed by, and when I looked at you and saw that you were old enough for love, I spread the corner of my garment over you and covered your naked body. I gave you my solemn oath and entered into a covenant with you, declares the Sovereign LORD, and you became mine.
"’I bathed you with water and washed the blood from you and put ointments on you. I clothed you with an embroidered dress and put sandals of fine leather on you. I dressed you in fine linen and covered you with costly garments. I adorned you with jewelry: I put bracelets on your arms and a necklace around your neck, and I put a ring on your nose, earrings on your ears and a beautiful crown on your head. So you were adorned with gold and silver; your clothes were of fine linen and costly fabric and embroidered cloth. Your food was honey, olive oil and the finest flour. You became very beautiful and rose to be a queen. Ezekiel 16:8-13


Who is speaking to the Israelites here? smiley
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by TruthinAction: 1:28pm On Mar 19, 2022
BornofGod108:



THE APPROVED COSTLY JEWELRIES
(Ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit).

"But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a Meek and Quiet Spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price" (I Peter 3:4).
In verse three of that chapter, Saint Peter revealed the needlessness and the emptiness of adorning ourselves with plaiting the hair (broided hair: Jerrycurling, wigs, attachments, perming and so on) and of wearing of gold (artificial jewelries: precious stones on our clothes, head ties, shoes; wrist chain watch, earrings, nose rings, wedding rings, rosary rings, necklace, tablets, pearls, beads and so on), or of putting on of apparel (Saint Paul called it "costly arrays", that's expensive clothing, ungodly laces, luxurious clothes and flamboyant head ties).
Paul also forbad godly women from all these heathenish idolatry (1 Timothy 2:9). That is not the jewelries God wants us to adorn ourselves with. But God wants to adorn us with jewelries, I mean costly jewelries...
I want to ask, what actually makes a woman glorious or beautiful? Hanging these idols on your body doesn't make you spiritually glorious, rather they turn you to be an enemy of God, proud, vain and dead!
Peter and Paul were filled with the holy ghost, they were holy men, not carnal men, they gave that commandments by the leading of God and your Bishop is saying "it doesn't matter?" Hmmm.
Holiness of heart is the only jewel women should seek for! The carnal beauty is death, but holy heart is life and peace. Sanctification of your heart from inbred depravity and evil desires should be your inmost desire and thirst!
To wear earrings and necklace are not for Holiness women. Peter said "let it not be the outward adorning..." But rather "but let it be the hidden man of the heart", that is Christ Jesus. Christ in me, the hope of heaven.
You can't have true Christ in your heart when these things are on your body. Get them off your body! Your body is the temple of God.
The meek and quiet spirit is the spirit of Christ, it is the evidence that a man is transformed and renewed in love. It is Sanctification.

Holy heart: no jewelries, no perming, no Jerry curling, no precious stones... Just be natural...
Destroy those things or set them on fire. Holiness of heart is that hidden man of the heart. Christ is Holiness personified and when he comes within, the body must conform to his holy standard.

So, Jesus that put on golden belt is not holy? Are you holier than Jesus?
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by TruthinAction: 1:29pm On Mar 19, 2022
BornofGod108:



you can go ahead and laugh, you are not the first, Festus did same to paul Act 26:24

but note
BEFORE YOU WEAR ANY CLOTHES (whether good or bad), YOU MUST HAVE PLANNED AND DECIDED WITHIN YOUR HEART. So your heart is affected positively or negatively by your dressing.
You can dress holy and yet without holy heart.
You can't dress seductively with a holy heart.
God demands Holiness of heart and Holiness in our outward appearance and character.
Be warned!

I believe in holiness. But I am not less holy because I put on gold.
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by Kobojunkie: 1:47pm On Mar 19, 2022
justlove91:
Instead of micro managing the dressing of females, why can't the weak men learn self control. All their slutty dresses can only trigger what is already inside. Instead of trying to change others why can't we change ourselves.
Nigerian men generally feel it is their place to instruct women on what to do and how to live their lives. So, the idea of self discipline is out of the question even where it is clearly what God commands. undecided

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Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 6:48pm On Mar 19, 2022
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=111168186]

Of course God counselled the Israelites several times on their way to the promised land but that never turned into a law that must be kept throughout their generations:
For instance:
God punished them for eating too much meat, for having sex with midianite women, for complaining on their way to the promised land. So what happened at Exodus 33:4-6 never became a law otherwise the same God won't later make such things and used it to adorn His people:
[quote]


what God meant in that scripture is that he will bless the land of israel , he will deposit treasures in that land!, he was speaking about the nation of israel and not to an individual!. God cannot contradict itself, he is not an author of confusion!, God who condemned it use in - 1 isaiah 3:16 - 23 cannot come and say we should use them!
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 7:00pm On Mar 19, 2022
TruthinAction:


So, Jesus that put on golden belt is not holy? Are you holier than Jesus?

Have you seen in scripture were Jesus put on jewelries
while he was on earth?
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 7:00pm On Mar 19, 2022
TruthinAction:


So, Jesus that put on golden belt is not holy? Are you holier than Jesus?
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:25pm On Mar 19, 2022
BornofGod108:

what God meant in that scripture is that he will bless the land of israel , he will deposit treasures in that land!, he was speaking about the nation of israel and not to an individual!. God cannot contradict itself, he is not an author of confusion!, God who condemned it use in - 1 isaiah 3:16 - 23 cannot come and say we should use them!

Jehovah says: “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, Walking with their heads high, Flirting with their eyes, skipping along, Making a tinkling sound with their anklets,  Jehovah will also strike the head of the daughters of Zion with scabs, And Jehovah will make their forehead bare. In that day Jehovah will take away the beauty of their bangles, The headbands and the crescent-shaped ornaments, The earrings, the bracelets, and the veils, The headdresses, the ankle chains, and the breastbands, The perfume receptacles and the charms, The finger rings and the nose rings, The ceremonial robes, the overtunics, the cloaks, and the purses, The hand mirrors and the linen garments, The turbans and the veils. Isaiah 3:16-23

Was it before Moses that God said this or after Moses? smiley

Well God never condemned the use of jewelries here rather He is telling them that their pride will bring them down.
Note that Isaiah lived centuries after Moses so if God actually condemned the use of jewelries the message would have been totally different from what you're reading here.
It would have been a matter of disobedience to what God commanded them not to use but in this case the opening verse of what you quoted says:

Jehovah says: “Because the daughters of Zion are haughty, Walking with their heads high, Flirting with their eyes, skipping along, Making a tinkling sound with their anklets,

This shows that God is addressing them on the topic of being haughty and flirting not because they were putting on jewelries! smiley
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by BornofGod108(m): 7:28pm On Mar 19, 2022
TruthinAction:


I believe in holiness. But I am not less holy because I put on gold.

Your holiness is not complete! if you want to enter that holy city abstain from it!. God in Isaiah 3:16-24 speaks on how he punish the users of jewelry for adornment
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by TruthinAction: 12:13pm On Mar 20, 2022
BornofGod108:


Your holiness is not complete! if you want to enter that holy city abstain from it!. God in Isaiah 3:16-24 speaks on how he punish the users of jewelry for adornment

You are just looking for scriptures to support your pre conceived opinion. Contained in that list is also the garment they put on. Are you saying God doesn't want us to put on clothes. Even the verse says those things beautifies.

Second, was he talking to you? Are you the pervert Jews he was referring to?

You will faint when you get to heaven and see beauty and glamour.
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by TruthinAction: 12:15pm On Mar 20, 2022
BornofGod108:


Have you seen in scripture were Jesus put on jewelries
while he was on earth?

He would have if he could afford them. But he became poor for our sake. If he wore it in the book of Revelation, it means it could wear it on earth. The scripture says, thy will be done on earth as it is done in heaven.
Re: Trousers Makes Women Naked! Why? by cornelboy(f): 8:51am On Apr 04, 2022
AllahEatsShit:
If it is not authenticated, why did I find it on the website of the Saudi Arabian Ministry of Religious Affairs?


Lol AntiChristian no fit answer this one o.

When I presented the Hadith to him, he was like asking me to prove that it's authentic. I no be Muslim na.

If it's not authentic, why couldn't he bring the one that's authentic about the story?

Na to just save face sha.

From Bible's perspective, Mohamad was an immoral man and his immorality was supported by his god.

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