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Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by tommynico(m): 1:27am On Mar 21, 2022
And as for those who are championing that Russia have never invaded a peaceful country before and it's only the west that does that. Let me take you back some decades, the Soviet union in 1939 under the leadership of Joseph Stalin, invaded Peaceful Finland because they refused to give up their land for him to put some boots, and he got a bloody nose for that, just as Putin is receiving now. Although the Soviet Union won, but at a huge cost of life and weaponry, and if not for the support of the west who saw him as the only option left in their fight with Hitler, Germany would have overran much of modern day Russia.

And as I mentioned in a previous post, western Europe have always seen the Russians and barbaric and inferior. Although most of the European royal houses are blood related and there is the historical rivalry amongst them which still reflects till date on the modern politics.

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Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by gambojimeta: 2:13am On Mar 21, 2022
tommynico:
And as for those who are championing that Russia have never invaded a peaceful country before and it's only the west that does that. Let me take you back some decades, the Soviet union in 1939 under the leadership of Joseph Stalin, invaded Peaceful Finland because they refused to give up their land for him to put some boots, and he got a bloody nose for that, just as Putin is receiving now. Although the Soviet Union won, but at a huge cost of life and weaponry, and if not for the support of the west who saw him as the only option left in their fight with Hitler, Germany would have overran much of modern day Russia.

And as I mentioned in a previous post, western Europe have always seen the Russians and barbaric and inferior. Although most of the European royal houses are blood related and there is the historical rivalry amongst them which still reflects till date on the modern politics.
Stalin and Hitler also shared Poland between themselves.
They only started fighting Germany after Hitler stabbed him in the back by launching Operation babarrosa (invasion of Russia).
Re: War In Ukraine: 'America Is Learning The Art Of Humility' by MonogramMaster(m): 12:40pm On Mar 21, 2022
MangekyoAlt:
honestly Russians arent really in fighting mood ATM. And it would likely remain that way until or unless any external forces challenges russia militarily. Or interfere in their internal affairs. I can imagine that this is why the US haven't DARED trying to overthrow putin. Whenever any country gets on the nerve on the USA, what they do is first is try to overthrow their president, replacing him with a friendly one. They've don it many countries. They've even tried it with Erdogan, the president of Turkey. I was surprised that they've never contemplated trying such nonsense with Putin and this article totally explains wht. According to the CIA, the Kremlin is the most coded place in the world. Putin has even started clearing off some elements that he doesn't trust fully. The moment he notices that the USA are trying anything, he would be sure to leak it to the Russians who wouldn't have any of it. So the hands of the US are tied right now. The more they decide to interfer in Russia's affairs, the more the Russian people would become anti-west which I'm sure they wouldn't want.

This is very funny. Yeltin, the man who was the president of Russia before putin, was a certified western ass licker. The man did as he was told to do by the USA as they constantly humiliated Russia. Note that while this man was ass licking the ass of the USA, he was still criticizing their move to expand NATO towards Russia despite the reason why NATO was crated, the USSR was no more. When putin took over, he was fairly pro west as well. His attempt to join NATO was thwarted. NATO needed an enemy and if russia joined, pretty much NATO would become a useless bloc.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/19/putin-russia-ukraine-nato-george-robertson/
Which is why Putin asked in Germany, 2007.
"Are we still your enemies that you keep on expanding your alliance towards us?"

It is obvious that after the dissolution of the USSR, Russia legit wanted to form ties with the USA and the west. But USA felt like they won the Cold war hence they can treat their former rivals which was now a shadow of his former self, however they like. They became the proud fućks that they've been known to be.

Meanwhile, If USA can manage to overthrow putin and replace him with a pro western president like they did with Ukraine, believe me they will treat Russia with more respect than they have since the fall of the USSR. But the thing is, it is too late.
Lavrov, 2 days ago said "the illusions of Russia forming ties with the West is all but over now".
Meaning, instead of trying to create ties with the West they will instead with China and others in Asia and South America and even Africa. Russia has been of late increasing their presence in Africa. I don't know if it is just me that notices it

Well written.

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