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Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 7:40pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Deuteronomy 21 22. “If a man has committed a sin deserving of death, and he is put to death, and you hang him on a tree, 23. his body shall not remain overnight on the tree, but you shall surely bury him that day, so that you do not defile the land which the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance; for he who is hanged is accursed of God". Galatians 3:13-14 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who is hanged on a tree” QUESTION Point out two errors of the New testament writer in His quest to justify Deuteronomy 21. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by immortalcrown(m): 7:47pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Broveens42: Does Deuteronomy 21 vs 22 tell you that whoever is hung on a tree is blessed? How do the two verses you quoted contradict each other? Go and learn English. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 7:50pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
immortalcrown: Lol. About English language, I should be advising you to take courses in English. Read the old T passage very well and compare |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by advanceDNA: 7:52pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
immortalcrown: The guy is desperate |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by immortalcrown(m): 7:53pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Broveens42:To prove me wrong, explain how the two verses contradict each other. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 7:56pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
immortalcrown: Calm down. Stop feeling jittery already. I wanna get answers first Let me give you a clue. The Deuteronomy passage is just a sentence with a clause at the end |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by immortalcrown(m): 7:59pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Broveens42:You do not even know the proper time to use jittery. How does my asking you to prove your claim mean I am feeling jittery? 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 8:03pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
immortalcrown: Sorry, but I feel you are jittery. You should have kept mute to allow other people contribute ... You don't expect the op to give answers immediately. Don't you think so? 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by immortalcrown(m): 8:07pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Broveens42:Imagine! A teacher is waiting to see all the works done by students before the teacher will give a correction. Ride on. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 8:09pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
immortalcrown: That's the standard practice all over. 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by immortalcrown(m): 8:09pm On Mar 28, 2022 |
Broveens42:Wonderful! Keep it up. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 3:47pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Ok.. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:10pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
What is the difference? |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 4:15pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:Death is a curse, and as the Old Covenant verse suggests those who are sentenced to death by the law are condemned/cursed by it. Hanging a cursed individual on tree served as a warning sign to others. So the author of Galatians didn't get it wrong on this one at all.. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 4:35pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: so when you sentence someone wrongly then it becomes a curse Wonderful |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 4:36pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You should know |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 4:42pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:Wrongly? I don't follow! Death in and of itself is a curse- Genesis 3 vs 19. Anyone sentenced to death following the Old Law is perceived as having been cursed by the Law, this ofcourse by men, not God. The primary audience of the letter you quote from where Jewish Christians, many of who were raised in the tradition of the Old Covenant Law which was given them - Jews only - by God. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:43pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:If i know i won't ask! |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 4:50pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: But the Deuteronomy I quoted said they are accursed of God not men |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 4:54pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:God's curse is only on those who break His Law, this, even before they are physically sentenced by men. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 5:15pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: The curse you quoted in Genesis was not what the new testament writer referenced from Deuteronomy. Christ became A CURSE. Which means there is a special type of curse from being hung justly. I would be listening to you if the new testament writer says: Christ became CURSE #english language |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 5:21pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: So in essence, Christ committed a sin ? |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 5:24pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:1. Death as described in Genesis 3 vs 19 is the same death suggested as a curse in Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20 awaits all those cursed by the Law of Moses. 2. There is no "special type of curse". The Law as a standard sits to Judge all those who live under it as either blessed or cursed, and there is no doubt the perception had by those men who live by the Old Covenant Law as to who is blessed and who is cursed by it. Jesus Christ was not cursed by the Law since He lived His life in full submission and obedience of the Old Covenant Law in question. However, because He was crucified by those who pretended to live by the Old Covenant Law, He was assumed cursed by it. None of those who are indeed cursed by the Old Covenant Law can rise again from the dead....see Genesis 3 vs 19 for details of this. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 5:24pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:Nope, Jesus Christ was not cursed by God's Old Covenant Law since He had no sin. Instead He was assumed cursed, this by men, since He was killed by those who manned the Old Covenant Law. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 5:31pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Lol. I love how you are dancing around. There are so many types of curses in OT. Deuteronomy was not even talking about curse from death ..but curse from hanging after death.. get the difference. The mistake you guys make is thinking it was being killed or nailed on the tree 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 5:35pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:It seems you don't even realize what the Law, in its entirety is really about, from your comment above. The same author of the letter to Galatians is assumed to have referred to the same Old Covenant Law of Moses as the Law of Sin and Death, you know why? |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 5:39pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: That is why I am of the opinion, the new testament writer copied wrongly 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:New testament was copied wrongly, how? Explain first what you mean by copied wrongly here. |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 5:41pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
INTRODUCTION A. Deuteronomy 21 :22&23 is one sentence First, second and third clauses: if a man commits a sin deserving of death, put to death, and then you hang him on a tree Fourth, fifth/sixth clauses: His body shall not be left on the tree overnight, so that you do not DEFILE the land Last clause ( ; ) for He 'He' is the man who commits a sin deserving of death, And whose body was left on the tree overnight Christians believe Christ didn't commit any sin deserving of death but was meant to die for their salvation. B. New testament 1.Christ redeemed from the curse of the law How? 2.By becoming a curse (check criteria for becoming a curse in deut21:22) 3. Cursed is everyone that you hang on a tree FALSE! Cursed is not everyone that is hung on a tree but that man who is hung after put to death deservedly for a sin he commits ANSWER Two errors from the new testament writer 1. Contextual fallacy against (deut 21:22) 2. Wrong referencing from (deut 21:23c) 1 Like |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Kobojunkie: 5:47pm On Mar 29, 2022 |
Broveens42:May I ask why you concern yourself with this in the first place? |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Broveens42(m): 6:43pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: I'm just curious |
Re: Religion: Who Copied From Whom ? by Dtruthspeaker: 7:23pm On Apr 02, 2022 |
Broveens42: Nope! It does not say so it says "IF a man has committed a sin deserving of death.." The word is "if" and "when". And the Judges of the day adjudged Him an "IF" and "Whend" Him. Even if there Judgement was a Perversion. |
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