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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by CandyOps(m): 9:55pm On Apr 09, 2022
Brexxit:

No it's not an Igbo presidency.

He is an ikwerre man from south south, Nigeria.

Yes I think you're right just as GEJ doesn't count as an Igbo presido notwithstanding he bears Ebere which is an Igbo name
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Brexxit(m): 9:56pm On Apr 09, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Nonsense

You guys should be campaigning for peter obi the China man and not hiding under the cover that amaechi is Igbo.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by PrinceOfLagos: 9:56pm On Apr 09, 2022
flokii:


Amaechi hasn't resigned his appointment as Minister yet.. so going by the electoral act PMB signed into law of recent, Amaechi can't contest to become president in Nigeria. Only Wike has high chances from SS and he is Ikwerre.
Amaechi knows the rule better than you do , he just declared to contest for presidency and will do the needful when the time is right ..
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 9:58pm On Apr 09, 2022
DontBullshitMe:

I don't understand your second question.

His name is Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi. I believe the Chibuike there is an Igbo name.
Same with Amaechi. Let's say Amaechi is the next president, Igbos should not cry foul play o.
Cos in their Biafra, south south is among.
I no support bloodshed and at the same time I no support subjugation of tribes.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by paramakina202: 9:59pm On Apr 09, 2022
Chibuike Amaechi maybe an Igbo man but he isn't from southeast.Can southsouth person represent the interest of southeath or can southeast person represent the interest of southsouth?We are agitating for power to rotate to southeast not to southsouth as they have done their turn through GEJ with our full support, however if APC choose him(Amaechi) as their candidate good and fine the struggle for SE political emancipation continues.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by DontBullshitMe: 10:09pm On Apr 09, 2022
gidgiddy:


I think its important to note that the Presidency of Nigeria rotates by geopolitical zone, not tribe. If the Presidency was about tribe, it will have to rotate amongst the 300 tribes in Nigeria, and thats not practical

Having said that, Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi is one of those Ikwerre men who does not deny being Igbo. But he is from the South/South

Should Amaechi become President, he will be representing the South/South Presidency even though he is Igbo.

What this means is that while Amaechi is Igbo, the South East will lay claim to Presidency next time it rotates to the South as it would be the only zone in the South yet to produce the President
I like your argument, very coherent.

While I don't deny that the Nigerian presidency rotates on geopolitical zone basis, I will like to point out that the geopolitical zone arrangements was rooted on tribal and ethnic majority. We all know SW is majorly Yoruba, NW and NE is majorly Hausa/Fulani then SS and NC are for the ethnic minorities.

Basically what I am saying is the Nigeria tripod is NW/NE === SW=== SE which represents Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo. So, the geopolitical zone term is on the basis of tribe not geography. My point is if an Igbo man is trapped outside SE "geopolitically", are you saying he/she can't benefit for being an Igbo man in national politics?

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by buckeyemedia: 10:10pm On Apr 09, 2022
Brexxit:
For those who don't know.

Amaechi is an ikwerre man and not Igbo, ikwerres have said it times without number they ain't Igbos.
But Ohaneze said he is more igbo than Joe Igbokwe, Just like Jonathan was as igbo as Azikiwe?

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by DontBullshitMe: 10:12pm On Apr 09, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Stop this mind game you this Tinubu people

Amaechi will be the flag bearer for APC in 2023 and not Tinubu
I am not a Tinubu supporter and I am not playing mind games.

Why do you think I am?

You think if I want Tinubu to become President, I will be here envisioning an Amaechi's Presidency?

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by porthouse7(f): 10:23pm On Apr 09, 2022
Igbo no get choice, they will gladly accept him,half bread is better than non
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Mandate2023: 10:31pm On Apr 09, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Nonsense

Dis 1 just dey claim Amaechi....I idiot left okorocha from his imo state na Amaechi he dey claim grin

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Mandate2023: 10:34pm On Apr 09, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Stop this mind game you this Tinubu people

Amaechi will be the flag bearer for APC in 2023 and not Tinubu

But his not igbo

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Unzerious: 10:39pm On Apr 09, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Shut up and stop talking nonsense

Amaechi younger brother's name is Uchenna

Why Igbo names if he's not Igbo according to you ?
Ikwere no get dia own name aside Igbo name?
The Phillipine's bear Spanish names but Spain has never laid any claim to them. It's only in this Tribe that someone can believe he's Igbo, and actually be Igbo. Well, going by your judgement, Zik wasn't Igbo.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Niwdog(m): 10:58pm On Apr 09, 2022
Is an ijebu ode man a yoruba?
If yes then ikwere is Igbo
Anioma is Igbo
Agbaelu is Igbo
Abriba is igbo
Nsukka is igbo
The only argument will be the southeast is yet to produce a president
An okun man of Kogi may deny being yoruba in kogi state but we gladly claim being a yoruba man outside kogi state
Have you seen an Ikwere man in kano deny being an Igbo
Beside Chibuike Amaechi is a registered member of ohanaeze
If Wike should reside in the US believe me you he wont deny being Igbo

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by 00FFT00(m): 11:00pm On Apr 09, 2022
DontBullshitMe:

I think you are not entirely correct on this claim. Some part of the Ikwerres believe they are Igbo and
that Ikwerre is just a sub-Igbo group. On the other hand, some parts claim they are a distinct ethnic group and only share similar cultural traits with Igbo because of their proximity.

Gov Nyesom Wike has openly claimed he isn't Igbo being an Ikwerre man that he is. We also have Amaechi, an Ikwerre man saying no one can deny him his Igbo origin.

This brings me to ask will it be fair for an Ikwerre man who strongly believes he is Igbo to be the beneficiary of the Igbo Presidency demands. Will an Ebonyi, Abia, Imo, Anambra, Enugu man be happy with it?


I am yet to see a Benin yoruba, or an igala Hausa.
Ikwere told us clearly they are not Igbo.
They traced their origin to Benin, therefore are Benin people.
Chibuike Amechi, an Ogbako Ikwere financier, did not convince his people to correct their avarice-induced genealogy lies.
Names only do not confer ethnicity.

An Amechi presidency cannot be considered Igbo by any measure.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by 1864fourr: 11:04pm On Apr 09, 2022
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buckeyemedia:
But Ohaneze said he is more igbo than Joe Igbokwe, Just like Jonathan was as igbo as Azikiwe?
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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 11:13pm On Apr 09, 2022
porthouse7:
Igbo no get choice, they will gladly accept him,half bread is better than non


My sister God bless you..


We no get choice as Igbos (SE). But at least he's still answering our names (amaechi and chibuike)

So, half bread is still better than nothing



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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by haffaze777(m): 11:51pm On Apr 09, 2022
Amechi is Igbo, let's elect him so the cry of marginalization can diegrin
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Iykmann(m): 11:57pm On Apr 09, 2022
DontBullshitMe:
Good day everyone.

As we all know, the current minister of transportation has recently announced his intention to run for the seat of Nigeria President.

Prior to his declaration, there have been series of lobbying and plea from the South East geopolitical zone and various Igbo socio-political group for the need for an Igbo man to become the President of this nation to further cement the unity of the country. This demand is a very legitimate demand which I support.

This brings me to ask : Does an Amaechi's Presidency qualify as an Igbo Presidency considering that his state of origin belongs to the South South geopolitical zone? Although he believes/claims that he (Amaechi) is an Igbo man.

Is an average Imo, Anambra, Ebonyi, Abia, Enugu man okay with Amaechi being the beneficiary of the demand and clamour for an Igbo Presidency?

After an Amaechi's Presidency (if it happens), will the call for an Igbo Presidency decline?

There's difference between igbo president and a president from south east Nigeria. Amaechi can't represent the south east

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by gidgiddy: 11:58pm On Apr 09, 2022
DontBullshitMe:

I like your argument, very coherent.

While I don't deny that the Nigerian presidency rotates on geopolitical zone basis, I will like to point out that the geopolitical zone arrangements was rooted on tribal and ethnic majority. We all know SW is majorly Yoruba, NW and NE is majorly Hausa/Fulani then SS and NC are for the ethnic minorities.

Basically what I am saying is the Nigeria tripod is NW/NE === SW=== SE which represents Hausa-Fulani, Yoruba and Igbo. So, the geopolitical zone term is on the basis of tribe not geography. My point is if an Igbo man is trapped outside SE "geopolitically", are you saying he/she can't benefit for being an Igbo man in national politics?

Its the tragedy of Nigeria. Had Nigeria been run the way its supposed to be run, as a true federation where the federating zones control their resources, nobody would care much where the President comes from or what ethnic group he is. It would be about competency. But we are still talking about where the President comes from because whoever the President of Nigeria is, he wields far more powers than he should in a true federation. Competency has been left behind

But as I said before, the Presidency rotates on geopolitical zone, not tribe. If people say it should be tribe, it will have to rotate amongst the 300 ethnic groups in Nigeria, which means that it will take any tribe over one thousand years to produce the President

Therefore, if Amaechi becomes President, regardless of the fact that he is Igbo, he will be serving the turn of the South/South

When it rotates back to the South, the South East will lay claim to the Presidency as the only zone in the South yet to produce the President in this political dispensation

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 12:06am On Apr 10, 2022
gidgiddy:


I think its important to note that the Presidency of Nigeria rotates by geopolitical zone, not tribe. If the Presidency was about tribe, it will have to rotate amongst the 300 tribes in Nigeria, and thats not practical

Having said that, Chibuike Rotimi Amaechi is one of those Ikwerre men who does not deny being Igbo. But he is from the South/South

Should Amaechi become President, he will be representing the South/South Presidency even though he is Igbo.

What this means is that while Amaechi is Igbo, the South East will lay claim to Presidency next time it rotates to the South as it would be the only zone in the South yet to produce the President



The most sensible contribution so far

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Nobody: 12:10am On Apr 10, 2022
chrisxxx:
Gents and Ladies! Listen well and get this settled.
Ikwerre is not Igbo just as Igbos are not Ikwerres. Just as Yorubas and Bini share some similarities that is same with Ikwerres and Igbos. I am Ikwerre and have done extensive research on this.
The same way igbos ha e different dialects is the same Ikwerres have. We dont speak the same dialect. We have over 10 dialects just as igbos.
Why do some Ikwerres claim to be Igbos?
Good question. The Arochukwu Confederacy had Ikwerre land under its influence. They are generally called Arnu people in Ikwerre land. They were mainly the Igbo people who maltreated the Ikwerres and made an average Ikwerre man to despise igbos. But liberation from the neocolonialism came during the civil war. At the fall of Biafra the Arnu people were targeted by some Ikwerre Communities that had hosted for years. This made them to abandon this area and headed towards Igbo mainland. Others were not attacked but out of fear of their past to their neighborhood absconded as well. However when some got to boundary communities like Isiokkpo and Elele some lenient Ikwerre men gave them refuge. This was so particularly as many of them didn't even know their home of origin in Igbo land. Among these communities that gave them land to stay they still see them as non indigenes. The Arnu descendants of these towns are the Ikwerres who make case that Ikwerre is Igbo. I have just revealed the findings of my investigation.
Amaechi might be a descendant of the Arnus. In that case he is an Ikwerre person as a result of his grandparents settlement and an Igbo man by ancestry..
Thanks.

New insight. Requires more research

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Tranquill: 12:23am On Apr 10, 2022
It’s funny that Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, and people from other tribes have declared their interests to vie for presidency but it is Ikwere that the Ibos are obsessed with.

They sound like Ikwere people have no right to become President unless they identify as Ibo. Some are even saying that they prefer voting Youruba. hausa or even the devil instead of Ikwere as if anyone cares. We know that Ikwere is Ibo only for the purpose of your Biafra but that tire was deflated before take off.

Reasonable people will sell their candidates but not these people. This is how they started with Tinubu until they made people who never liked Tinubu’s candidacy to start gravitating towards him.

If you can not stop people from other tribes from contesting with their identity why thinking Ikwere people can not contest as Ikwere?

Ikwere is among over 300 ethnic group and has the right to vie for the highest office and if this fact gives you headaches then you can go and hug the nearest transformer.
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Donclaracuzo: 12:33am On Apr 10, 2022
Though, an Igbo man but representing south south. If he gets the ticket , ndi Igbo will support him while south east will still be on record of not been offered a political space to govern naija . AGitation go still go on

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by Donclaracuzo: 12:42am On Apr 10, 2022
Tranquill:
It’s funny that Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, and people from other tribes have declared their interests to vie for presidency but it is Ikwere that the Ibos are obsessed with.

They sound like Ikwere people have no right to become President unless they identify as Ibo. Some are even saying that they prefer voting Youruba. hausa or even the devil instead of Ikwere as if anyone cares. We know that Ikwere is Ibo only for the purpose of your Biafra but that tire was deflated before take off.

Reasonable people will sell their candidates but not these people. This is how they started with Tinubu until they made people who never liked Tinubu’s candidacy to start gravitating towards him.

If you can not stop people from other tribes from contesting with their identity why thinking Ikwere people can not contest as Ikwere?

Ikwere is among over 300 ethnic group and has the right to vie for the highest office and if this fact gives you headaches then you can go and hug the nearest transformer.

Lol. Yorubas and inciteful statements are like bakare and co. Not hausa fulanis again that you Yorubas are bringing ndi Igbo to. But , ikwere.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by colonelwealth(m): 1:27am On Apr 10, 2022
chrisxxx:
Gents and Ladies! Listen well and get this settled.
Ikwerre is not Igbo just as Igbos are not Ikwerres. Just as Yorubas and Bini share some similarities that is same with Ikwerres and Igbos. I am Ikwerre and have done extensive research on this.
The same way igbos ha e different dialects is the same Ikwerres have. We dont speak the same dialect. We have over 10 dialects just as igbos.
Why do some Ikwerres claim to be Igbos?
Good question. The Arochukwu Confederacy had Ikwerre land under its influence. They are generally called Arnu people in Ikwerre land. They were mainly the Igbo people who maltreated the Ikwerres and made an average Ikwerre man to despise igbos. But liberation from the neocolonialism came during the civil war. At the fall of Biafra the Arnu people were targeted by some Ikwerre Communities that had hosted for years. This made them to abandon this area and headed towards Igbo mainland. Others were not attacked but out of fear of their past to their neighborhood absconded as well. However when some got to boundary communities like Isiokkpo and Elele some lenient Ikwerre men gave them refuge. This was so particularly as many of them didn't even know their home of origin in Igbo land. Among these communities that gave them land to stay they still see them as non indigenes. The Arnu descendants of these towns are the Ikwerres who make case that Ikwerre is Igbo. I have just revealed the findings of my investigation.
Amaechi might be a descendant of the Arnus. In that case he is an Ikwerre person as a result of his grandparents settlement and an Igbo man by ancestry..
Thanks.


No need to engage you with counter arguments and proofs but don't mislead the unsuspecting public pls.
If you guy deny your heritage and choose to be a different tribe ..good& supported but don't twist things.

However, same Ikweres shouldn't claim Igbos at anytime later, Igbos too are learning to allow any group be what they want.

When next situations arise that may call things to question, remember to stand your ground based on your beliefs including educating Nigerians that the persons with Igbo name who break the law from your side are not Igbos.
So that another Maj. Kaduna Nzogwu doesn't doesn't arise.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by colonelwealth(m): 1:37am On Apr 10, 2022
Tranquill:
It’s funny that Yorubas, Hausas, Fulanis, and people from other tribes have declared their interests to vie for presidency but it is Ikwere that the Ibos are obsessed with.

They sound like Ikwere people have no right to become President unless they identify as Ibo. Some are even saying that they prefer voting Youruba. hausa or even the devil instead of Ikwere as if anyone cares. We know that Ikwere is Ibo only for the purpose of your Biafra but that tire was deflated before take off.

Reasonable people will sell their candidates but not these people. This is how they started with Tinubu until they made people who never liked Tinubu’s candidacy to start gravitating towards him.

If you can not stop people from other tribes from contesting with their identity why thinking Ikwere people can not contest as Ikwere?

Ikwere is among over 300 ethnic group and has the right to vie for the highest office and if this fact gives you headaches then you can go and hug the nearest transformer.



Pls what made you think Igbos are concerned about who declares for what especially from Ikweres?
Or what made you believe the OP is Igbo?

Igbos have their own candidates as well.

You guys shouldn't flatter your selves.. Ikweres are not in the list of Igbos to do list.
Of all the tribes, it's Igbos that is your issue?

The matter should be if the Ikweres can push their agendas without trying to ride on the wings of the same Igbos they dream to measure to.

It's a continuous mistake to think you can truely stand or regarded by always antagonizing Igbos.

Fly, the sky is big enough.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by DMerciful(m): 3:18am On Apr 10, 2022
Amaechi has said he is Igbo, he speaks Igbo so what has what Ikerre as a place got to do with this? Do you know his root?
Brexxit:
For those who don't know.

Amaechi is an ikwerre man and not Igbo, ikwerres have said it times without number they ain't Igbos.
Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by mrvitalis(m): 3:27am On Apr 10, 2022
DontBullshitMe:

I think you are not entirely correct on this claim. Some part of the Ikwerres believe they are Igbo and
that Ikwerre is just a sub-Igbo group. On the other hand, some parts claim they are a distinct ethnic group and only share similar cultural traits with Igbo because of their proximity.

Gov Nyesom Wike has openly claimed he isn't Igbo being an Ikwerre man that he is. We also have Amaechi, an Ikwerre man saying no one can deny him his Igbo origin.

This brings me to ask will it be fair for an Ikwerre man who strongly believes he is Igbo to be the beneficiary of the Igbo Presidency demands. Will an Ebonyi, Abia, Imo, Anambra, Enugu man be happy with it?

Zoning is by geopolitical zones ... ameachi being an Igbo man would represent south south because there are Igbos in the south ...that doesn't mean that south east zone won't demand presidency again when it comes to south turn because they haven't been represented ..

..south south need at least one term ..but two won't be too bad or south east gets it

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by CaptainAyub: 3:48am On Apr 10, 2022
PrinceOfLagos:

Nonsense
What we're talking about is SE presidency not Igbo presidency.
If you begin to talk about Igbo presidency,then u must talk about Isoko,Urhobo,Ibibio,Tiv,Idoma,Igede,Kanuri,Chibok,Nupe,Igbira,Igala,Bachama,Gbagyi and the 250 tribes presidency.

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Re: Is An Amaechi's Presidency An Igbo Presidency? by obyrich(m): 4:11am On Apr 10, 2022
DontBullshitMe:

I don't understand your second question.

His name is Rotimi Chibuike Amaechi. I believe the Chibuike there is an Igbo name.
Do Igbos bear the name ROTIMI?

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