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John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 4:43pm On Apr 11, 2022
For over 2000 years now, but no one has yet done greater works than Jesus. Have there been no true believers for over 2000 years now to do greater works as Jesus has said?

John 14:12, KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Felimax(m): 4:55pm On Apr 11, 2022
Shows you have very little knowledge about the history of the church.

Though He started the church He never wrote anything, some of His followers shadows were healing people like no tomorrow. He did not convert Rome but His followers did and even converted the world.

He took death as God His followers virtually all took death as mare humans. Greater works has His followers done. Go and read about the history of the church.

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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by oaroloye(m): 5:19pm On Apr 11, 2022
MISHIGAS!

MindHacker9009:

For over 2000 years now, but no one has yet done greater works than Jesus. Have there been no true believers for over 2000 years now to do greater works as Jesus has said?

John 14:12, KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

YOU ARE AN EXTREMELY WICKED PERSON, TO DENY THE POWER OF GOD IN THESE MODERN DAYS!

What research did you ever do?

Have you investigated the ROMAN CATHOLIC SHRINE TO THE VIRGIN MARY, AT LOURDES IN FRANCE?

KENNETH COPELAND TESTIFIES OF SMITH WIGGLESWORTH RAISING THE DEAD.

SMITH WIGGLESWORTH was a functionally illiterate, early 20th English plumber, who never read any other publication in his life, but The Bible.

He was much more powerful in Faith than any trained preacher of his time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrO_DrVUhTQ

KENNETH COPELAND was a powerful Miracle Worker, who learned from KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN, or Tulsa, Oklahoma. Their Teachings on Faith were instrumental in saving my life from an endemic blood disease, that should have otherwise killed me.

However, applying their Teachings showed me the Hypocrisy of the Organized Christianity they subscribed to.

ROMAN CATHOLIC LOURDES SHRINE WEBSITE.

https://www.lourdes-france.org/en/miraculous-healings/

The Roman Catholic Church appointed a committee to evaluate alleged Miracles at Lourdes, in order to eliminate imagined or otherwise faked cures, and ratify only definite Miracles. Out of like 700,000 claims, they verify only 70- to illustrate how seriously this is taken. (Do look this up.)

OPENING BLIND EYES.

Ronald Coyne Healing by Daisy Osborn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8cpBPkkhM

RAISING THE DEAD.

Lady raised from the Dead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAZKTtY3D8

Boy raised from the Dead after 24 hours.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyO7QWYeFTE

Man raised- Pakistan.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr87oNY6TA

Woman dead for 7 days Raised by Timothy Omotoso.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrbIXBkD4o

T.L. OSBORN AND DAISY OSBORN TELL THEIR STORY.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlA4aK6VAOA

T.L. OSBORN AND WILLIAM BRANHAM.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvlkckrSYMg

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

THE MOST IMPORTANT SPIRITUAL DOCTRINE ON EARTH:

When any Creature is born, a manifestation of God imprints It with a fresh copy of The Commands of The Creator to their kind, and a feed of packets of Living Energy is connected to them, at a point on their Soul Body that is characteristic of their kind.

That of Humans is three finger-widths beneath the navel.

When any Creature dies, the feed that made them live disconnects, and manifests an Entity that requires a complete record of what was experienced by use of that Energy.

If this record is not forthcoming in a speedy fashion, the Entity cuts into the Soul Body, and extracts this Data by Brute Force. This inflicts further damage on the Soul Body, such that It cannot deploy Its AfterLife Body.

Scavenger Spirit Beings then attack It, and tear It to pieces, in the process of extracting Its last Life Energies- a thing they must do to survive.

Such Creatures as suffer such a Fate do not get to enjoy, nor suffer, an AfterLife.

They are destroyed on-the-spot.

Only those who are able to render a complete, uninterrupted copy of of their Life Experiences are not cut in sunder by the Accountant-Entity, which leaves them undamaged.

Those Soul Bodies then draw on the last Life Energies out of every cell, and use them to create a Spirit Energy Body, capable of housing their Mind, their Memories, and their Personality.

This Spiritual Body then goes to an AfterLife Fate, appropriate to how It lives Its life on Earth- in HEAVEN, in PARADISE, or in HELL.

This is only achieved by those who have died with the ability to TOTALLY RECALL every memory of their lives, from Birth-until-Death.

THIS IS BEST GUARANTEED BY A SIMPLE MEDITATIVE EXERCISE, WHICH WILL ENABLE ONE TO TOTALLY-RECALL THEIR WHOLE LIFE IN UNDER A YEAR OF PERSEVERANCE.

[See: DIANETICS: The Modern Science of Mental Health, by L. Ron Hubbard (1950).
SELF ANALYSIS, by L. Ron Hubbard (1951).
JOURNEY TO IXTLAN: The Lessons of Don Juan, by Carlos Castaneda (1973).
THE EAGLE'S GIFT, by Carlos Castaneda (1981).
THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda (1985)..
THE POWER OF SILENCE, by Carlos Castaneda (1987).
THE SORCERER'S CROSSING, by Taisha Abelar (1993).
THE EINSTEIN FACTOR: A Proven New Method for Increasing your Intelligence, by Win Wenger and Richard Poe (1995).]

THIS IS NOT A "BELIEF," NOR AN OPINION."

It applies to every Religion.

Those Religions that promise AfterLife on Heaven or Hell, without achieving TOTAL RECALL first, are all always false Religions.

They were invariably started or corrupted by the same creatures that feed upon the Souls of those ignorant, or neglectful, of the preparation process.

THE MOST IMPORTANT TRUTH ABOUT THIS DOCTRINE IS THAT IT IS EASY TO VERIFY.

The method that was used to determine what happens in the AfterLife can be used by anyone.

.  THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.  (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


The Primary Goal of Evil is to prevent Man from attaining THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER.

It is difficult to deceive those people.

CHRISTIANITY IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS! HOW DO YOU THINK THE DISCIPLES FELT, WHEN LORD YESHUA FINALLY TOLD THEM, THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THEIR 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRAINING ADVANTAGE AND SENIORITY AWAY FROM THEM, AND MAKE EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN EQUAL, AND EVEN SUPERIOR TO THEM?

Do you think, that, after all they had suffered together- being persecuted by their own families and friends, forbidden from Synagogues- that they welcomed such a Teaching?

It is forgotten that these people were Human Beings, and Human Beings always put their perceived self-interests first.

THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER ARE EVERY HUMAN BEING'S BEST INTEREST.

Anyone who does not perceive that is delusional.


oaroloye:


. JOSHUA 1:8.

8. "This Book of The Law
shall not depart
out of thy mouth
but thou shalt meditate
therein day and night,
that thou mayest do
according to all
that is written therein:
for then thou shalt
make thy way prosperous,
and then thou shalt have
Good Success."

. PSALM 1:1-6.

BLESSED is the man
that walketh not
in The Counsel of the Ungodly,
nor standeth in the Way of Sinners,
nor sitteth in the Seat of the Scornful.
2. But his delight is
in The Law of The LORD;
and in His Law
doth he meditate day and night.
3. And he shall be like a tree
planted by the rivers of water,
that bringeth forth his fruit
in his season;
his leaf also shall not wither;
and whatsoever he doeth
shall prosper.
4. The Ungodly are not so:
but are like the chaff
which the wind driveth away.
5.Therefore the Ungodly
shall not stand
in The Judgment,
nor Sinners
in The Congregation
of The Righteous.
6. For The LORD knoweth
The Way of the Righteous:
but the Way of the Ungodly
shall Perish.

. PSALM 119:97-105.

97. O how I love Thy Law!
It is my meditation all the day.
98. Thou through Thy Commandments
hast made me Wiser
than mine enemies:
for They are ever with me.
99 I have more Understanding
than all my teachers:
for Thy Testimonies
are my meditation.
100. I understand
more than the Ancients,
because I keep Thy Precepts.
101. I have refrained my feet
from every Evil Way,
that I might keep Thy Word.
102. I have not departed
from Thy Judgments:
for Thou hast taught me.
103. How sweet are Thy Words
unto my taste!
yea, sweeter than honey
to my mouth!
104. Through Thy Precepts
I get Understanding:
therefore I hate every False Way.
105. Thy Word is a Lamp
unto my feet,
and a Light unto my path.

IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING IN GENERAL, AND THE BIBLE IN PARTICULAR, IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN SINFULNESS.

If you are a Sinner, it is always the fault of your PARENTS. They were the only ones God gave the mandate to, to teach you The Way of God.

God never ordained any "APOSTLE," "PROPHET," "EVANGELIST," "PASTOR," or "TEACHER" to teach us HIS WAY, other than our PARENTS.

If our parents don't teach us His Way, then we are surely going to be lost.

GOD HAS NO BACKUP SYSTEM TO RESTORE US, IF OUR PARENTS HAVE F(*Bleep!*)D US UP TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CANNOT HEAR HIS VOICE, LET ALONE SEE HIM.

God cannot be summoned by Evil.

He is no one's TAIL: He is always THE HEAD.

oaroloye:


. JOB 28:28.

28. "And unto Man He Said,

'BEHOLD,
THE FEAR OF THE LORD,
THAT IS WISDOM;
AND TO DEPART FROM EVIL,
IS UNDERSTANDING.' "


. JOB 39:13-18.

13. "Gavest thou the goodly wings
unto the peacocks?
or wings and feathers
unto the ostrich?
14. "Which leaveth
her eggs in the earth,
and warmeth them in dust,
15. "And forgetteth
that the foot may crush them,
or that the wild beast
may break them.
16. "She is hardened
against her young ones,
as though they were not her's:
her labour is in vain without fear;
17. "Because God hath
deprived her of Wisdom,
neither hath He
imparted to her Understanding.
18." What time she
lifteth up herself on high,
she scorneth
the horse and his rider."

. PSALM 111:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
a Good Understanding
have all they
that do His Commandments:
His Praise endureth for ever.

. PROVERBS 1:7.

7. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Knowledge:
but Fools despise
Wisdom and Instruction.

. PROVERBS 9:10.

10. The Fear of The LORD
is The Beginning of Wisdom:
and The Knowledge of
The Holy is Understanding.

.   ISAIAH 55:6-11.

6. Seek ye The LORD,
while He may be found,
call ye upon Him
while He is near.
7. Let the Wicked
forsake his Way,
and the Unrighteous Man
his Thoughts:
and let him return
unto The LORD,
and He will have Mercy
upon him;
and to our God,
for He will abundantly pardon.

8. "FOR MY THOUGHTS
(ARE) NOT YOUR THOUGHTS,
NEITHER ARE YOUR WAYS
MY WAYS," saith The LORD.
9. "FOR (AS) THE HEAVENS
ARE HIGHER
THAN THE EARTH,
SO ARE MY WAYS
HIGHER THAN YOUR WAYS,
AND MY THOUGHTS
THAN YOUR THOUGHTS.'


10. "For as the rain
cometh down,
and the snow from Heaven,
and returneth not thither,
but watereth the earth,
and maketh it bring forth
and bud,
that it may give seed
to the Sower,
and bread to the Eater:
11. "So shall My Word be
that goeth forth
out of My Mouth:
It shall not
return unto Me void,
but It shall accomplish
that which I please,
and It shall prosper
(in the thing)
whereto I sent It."

. 2nd CHRONICLES 16:9.

9. "For The Eyes of The LORD
run to and fro throughout
the whole Earth,
to show Himself strong
on behalf of those
whose heart
is perfect toward Him.
Herein thou hast done foolishly:
therefore from henceforth
thou shalt have wars.”

. AMOS 3:3.

3. Can two walk together,
except they be agreed?"

. ZECHARIAH 4:10.

10. For who hath despised
The Day of Small Things?
For they shall rejoice,
and shall see the plummet
in the hand of Zerubbabel
with those seven;
they are The Eyes of The LORD,
Which run to and fro
through the whole Earth.

IT TAKES A MINIMUM OF SEVEN YEARS OF DILIGENT STUDY AND HANDS-ON EXERCISE FOR A RIGHTEOUS PERSON TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND THE WAY OF GOD- THERE IS NO WAY TO ACCELERATE THIS PROCESS.

It was the DUTY of your PARENTS to teach you This Way, growing up, between ages 13 through 20.

. DEUTERONOMY 6:1-9.

NOW these are the Commandments,
the Statutes, and the Judgments,
Which The LORD your God
Commanded to teach you,
that ye might do Them in the land
whither ye go to possess it:
2. That thou mightest fear
The LORD thy God,
to keep all his Statutes and His Commandments,
Which I command thee,
thou, and thy son, and thy son's son,
all the days of thy life;
and that thy days may be prolonged.
3. Hear therefore, O Israel,
and observe to do It;
that it may be well with thee,
and that ye may increase mightily,
as The LORD God of thy Fathers hath Promised thee,
in the land that floweth
with milk and honey.
4. Hear, O Israel:
The LORD our God is one LORD:
5. And thou shalt love The LORD thy God
with all thine Heart,
and with all thy Soul,
and with all thy Might.
6. And these Words,
which I Command thee this Day,
shall be in thine heart:
7. And thou shalt teach Them diligently
unto thy Children,
and shalt talk of Them
when thou sittest in thine house,
and when thou walkest by the way,
and when thou liest down,
and when thou risest up.
8. And thou shalt bind them
for a sign upon thine hand,
and they shall be as frontlets
between thine eyes.
9. And thou shalt write them
upon the posts of thy house,
and on thy gates.

IF YOUR PARENTS DID NOT TEACH YOU THE WAY OF GOD, IT IS BECAUSE THEY WANTED YOU TO DIE, AND THEY WANTED YOU TO LOSE YOUR SOUL.

No one is obliged to remedy this for you.

LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES DELIBERATELY SABOTAGED THE CHURCH, TO PREVENT OTHER CHRISTIANS FROM EQUALLING OR SURPASSING THEM.

They swore a Sacred Blood Oath to THE CHIEF PRIESTS and SANHEDRIN COUNCIL to never teach nor Preach any part of Lord Yeshua's Teachings, ever again, and they forbade the Hebrew Christians from teaching the Gentile Christians The Law of Moses and from Circumcising them.

THESE DIRECTIVES DESTROYED CHRISTIANITY, FROM THE BEGINNING!

The insane Pharisee (not that any of them was ever sane, to begin with!) PAUL infiltrated the Church, after his work of eliminating all eyewitnesses of Lord Yeshua's Resurrection, who never swore the Oath to the SANHEDRIN and Chief Priests, built up up his credibility as a Christianity Spokesman, and used a legal device to get himself to the wicked Emperor Nero, to tell him that he could make a god manifest to him, by persecuting and killing as many of his followers as it would take, to make him respond.

. JUDGES 16:30.

30. And Samson said,

"Let me die with the Philistines."
And he bowed himself
with all his might;
and the house fell upon the lords,
and upon all the people
that were therein.
So the dead which he slew
at his death
were more than they
which he slew in his life.

IF PAUL'S CONVERSION STORY- THAT LORD YESHUA MANIFESTED TO HIM, WHILE HE WAS PERSECUTING THE CHURCH- WERE TRUE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST THING HE SHOULD NEVER TELL A MAN LIKE NERO- IN CASE HE SHOULD USE IT AS A PRETEXT FOR DESTROYING THE CHURCH!

. JOHN 14:21-27.

21. "He that hath
my Commandments,
and keepeth them,
he it is that loveth me:
and he that loveth me
shall be loved of my Father,
and I will love him,
and will manifest myself to him."

22. Judas saith unto him,
not Iscariot,

"Lord, how is it that thou
wilt manifest thyself unto us,
and not unto the World?"

23. Jesus Answered
and Said unto him,

"If a man love me,
he will keep my Words:
and my Father will love him,
and we will come unto him,
and make our abode with him.
24. "He that loveth me not
keepeth not my Sayings:
and The Word which ye hear
is not mine,
but The Father's which sent me.
25. "These things have I
Spoken unto you,
being yet present with you.
26. "But the Comforter,
Which is The Holy Ghost,
Whom The Father
will send in my Name,
He shall Teach you All Things,
and bring All Things
to your remembrance,
whatsoever I have
Said unto you.
27. "Peace I leave with you,
my Peace I give unto you:
not as the World giveth,
give I unto you.
Let not your heart be troubled,
neither let it be afraid."

PAUL'S TESTIMONY WAS A LIE- BECAUSE LORD YESHUA DOES NOT MANIFEST TO PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM, AND BREAK HIS COMMANDMENTS.

Bit Paul's Plan was that Nero kill him, and every other Christian in the Roman Empire- whom Paul had never had the jurisdiction to arrest before.

He thought himself a hero of his Religion.

. JUDGES 16:30.

30. And Samson said,

"Let me die with the Philistines."
And he bowed himself
with all his might;
and the house fell upon the lords,
and upon all the people
that were therein.
So the dead which he slew
at his death
were more than they
which he slew in his life.

IN 64AD, EMPEROR NERO BLAMED THE CHRISTIANS FOR THE GREAT FIRE OF ROME- AND ORDERED THEM EXECUTED.

This caused those who had copies of Lord Yeshua's Teachings to release them.

That is why we have The Gospels we have today.

Several of the Lord Yeshua's key Teachings are missing.

This includes most of the interpretations of his Parables- which are The Keys to The Kingdom of Heaven, and all Its Resources. Including The Power to do greater Feats than Lord Yeshua did on Earth.

NO ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY LEADER WANTS ANY CHRISTIAN TO HAVE THIS POWER, AND MOST CLERGYMEN ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED TO PREVENT THEIR FELLOW CHRISTIANS FROM EVER ACHIEVING IT.

BIBLICAL MEDITATION is the Key to unloading everything- which is NOT taught in Organized Christianity.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:52pm On Apr 11, 2022
MindHacker9009:
For over 2000 years now, but no one has yet done greater works than Jesus. Have there been no true believers for over 2000 years now to do greater works as Jesus has said?

John 14:12, KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.


Jesus Christ of Nazareth did a lot of WORKS but most misinformed Churchgoers like you assume he was talking about MIRACLES whereas he was referring to physical works that will affect many lives and makes people turn around into new leaves!

In the Bible book of John 4:34 Jesus said:

“My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his WORK"

Here Jesus was preaching and teaching a Samaritan woman!

So what WORKS does he meant when he said:

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Well his true followers today are globally known as "Jehovah's Witnesses"

©Jesus preached and teach within the boarders of Israel but we have preached throughout the earth today!

©Jesus only preached in Hebrew language but we have preached in virtually all the languages on planet earth!

©Before his ascension to heaven Jesus only made 500 disciples but we have gathered millions of brothers and sisters throughout the earth today!

©AS the Prince of Peace Jesus couldn't remove weapons from the hearts of his disciples, but we have removed weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe and not only that but they have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Psalms 46:9

©Jesus never distributed the spiritual sword (Bible) to any one but we have printed and distributed copies of Bible in hundreds of Millions throughout the earth in countless languages!

©Jesus never build a single place of worship in his own time instead he was chased out of the Temple and Jewish synagogues but we have built our headquarters, branch offices and kingdom halls throughout the earth!

©Jesus only stood before Herod Antipas and Roman governor Pontius Pilate during his persecution but we have stood before many rulers of the earth to be persecuted due to our faith!

Do you now understand what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus meant? smiley

Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 6:08pm On Apr 11, 2022
If na miracles, the ones Paul did through the power of God is greater o.

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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:09pm On Apr 11, 2022
cornelboy:
If na miracles, the ones Paul did through the power of God is greater o.

Did Paul walk on water and did he feed 5000 with a loaf of bread and 2 fishes?
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:21pm On Apr 11, 2022
You keep making up your own stories. May you'll become informed after watching this official video on the origin of Jehovah's Witnesses you are so obsessed about.
Witnesses of Jehovah (Complete Official) - Jeremiah Films

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3zp9FiyiQ

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus Christ of Nazareth did a lot of WORKS but most misinformed Churchgoers like you assume he was talking about MIRACLES whereas he was referring to physical works that will affect many lives and makes people turn around into new leaves!

In the Bible book of John 4:34 Jesus said:

“My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his WORK"

Here Jesus was preaching and teaching a Samaritan woman!

So what WORKS does he meant when he said:

[b]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Well his true followers today are globally known as "Jehovah's Witnesses"

©Jesus preached and teach within the boarders of Israel but we have preached throughout the earth today!

©Jesus only preached in Hebrew language but we have preached in virtually all the languages on planet earth!

©Before his ascension to heaven Jesus only made 500 disciples but we have gathered millions of brothers and sisters throughout the earth today!

©AS the Prince of Peace Jesus couldn't remove weapons from the hearts of his disciples, but we have removed weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe and not only that but they have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Psalms 46:9

©Jesus never distributed the spiritual sword (Bible) to any one but we have printed and distributed copies of Bible in hundreds of Millions throughout the earth in countless languages!

©Jesus never build a single place of worship in his own time instead he was chased out of the Temple and Jewish synagogues but we have built our headquarters, branch offices and kingdom halls throughout the earth!

©Jesus only stood before Herod Antipas and Roman governor Pontius Pilate during his persecution but we have stood before many rulers of the earth to be persecuted due to our faith!

Do you now understand what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus meant? smiley
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 11:22pm On Apr 11, 2022
MaxInDHouse:



Jesus Christ of Nazareth did a lot of WORKS but most misinformed Churchgoers like you assume he was talking about MIRACLES whereas he was referring to physical works that will affect many lives and makes people turn around into new leaves!

In the Bible book of John 4:34 Jesus said:

“My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his WORK"

Here Jesus was preaching and teaching a Samaritan woman!

So what WORKS does he meant when he said:

[b]Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Well his true followers today are globally known as "Jehovah's Witnesses"

©Jesus preached and teach within the boarders of Israel but we have preached throughout the earth today!

©Jesus only preached in Hebrew language but we have preached in virtually all the languages on planet earth!

©Before his ascension to heaven Jesus only made 500 disciples but we have gathered millions of brothers and sisters throughout the earth today!

©AS the Prince of Peace Jesus couldn't remove weapons from the hearts of his disciples, but we have removed weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe and not only that but they have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Psalms 46:9

©Jesus never distributed the spiritual sword (Bible) to any one but we have printed and distributed copies of Bible in hundreds of Millions throughout the earth in countless languages!

©Jesus never build a single place of worship in his own time instead he was chased out of the Temple and Jewish synagogues but we have built our headquarters, branch offices and kingdom halls throughout the earth!

©Jesus only stood before Herod Antipas and Roman governor Pontius Pilate during his persecution but we have stood before many rulers of the earth to be persecuted due to our faith!

Do you now understand what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus meant? smiley



So, if they are counting followers of Christ, Jehovah witness will include itself?

But you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead bodily. You said God stole his body. So, Jesus did not really rise bodily. We argued he appeared to Thomas. You said, he just materialized for that purpose.

You called God a thief and a fraudster and you call Jesus a deceiver. He deceived his disciples that he truly rose from the dead when actually he didn't. You claim he only rose spirituality.

With all these wicked lies, you still want to claim that you believe in Jesus.

You also do not believe he is coming back visibly. Why are you people so wicked? Why have you chosen to allow yourself to be used by the devil to deny the truth of God's word.

If you don't repent, even Satan will endure the Lake of fire more than you.

Please, stop claiming to be a follower of Jesus when in the real sense, you are anti Christ.

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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52am On Apr 12, 2022
MindHacker9009:
You keep making up your own stories. May you become informed after watching this official video on the origin of Jehovah's Witnesses you are so obsessed about.
Once the question raised against my faith has been publicly trashed youre free to keep your opinion to yourself! wink
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57am On Apr 12, 2022
Ken4Christ:


So, if they are counting followers of Christ, Jehovah witness will include itself?

But you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead bodily. You said God stole his body. So, Jesus did not really rise bodily. We argued he appeared to Thomas. You said, he just materialized for that purpose.

You called God a thief and a fraudster and you call Jesus a deceiver. He deceived his disciples that he truly rose from the dead when actually he didn't. You claim he only rose spirituality.

With all these wicked lies, you still want to claim that you believe in Jesus.

You also do not believe he is coming back visibly. Why are you people so wicked? Why have you chosen to allow yourself to be used by the devil to deny the truth of God's word.

If you don't repent, even Satan will endure the Lake of fire more than you.

Please, stop claiming to be a follower of Jesus when in the real sense, you are anti Christ.


Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, how many times have i told you that your God differs from mine?
How many times have i told you that your Jesus is not my Jesus?
Please park yourself to one corner if you can't stand other people's comments because this is a public forum where everyone is FREE to EXPRESS themselves. The era of your forceful religions and intimidation is over.
So talk about your own God and your own Jesus, nobody is forcing my own God on you! smiley

Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 8:04am On Apr 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:



Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, how many times have i told you that your God differs from mine?
How many times have i told you that your Jesus is not my Jesus?
Please park yourself to one corner if you can't stand other people's comments because this is a public forum where everyone is FREE to EXPRESS themselves. The era of your forceful religions and intimidation is over.
So talk about your own God and your own Jesus, nobody is forcing my own God on you! smiley

Thank God you have admitted for the first time that you are serving a different God. And that your god is the devil who feeds you with lies that are designed to lure people to the very you deny does not exist.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 8:17am On Apr 12, 2022
MindHacker9009:


Did Paul walk on water and did he feed 5000 with a loaf of bread and 2 fishes?

Raising a person from death back to life is more than those two.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 8:45am On Apr 12, 2022
Ken4Christ:


So, if they are counting followers of Christ, Jehovah witness will include itself?

But you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead bodily. You said God stole his body. So, Jesus did not really rise bodily. We argued he appeared to Thomas. You said, he just materialized for that purpose.

You called God a thief and a fraudster and you
call Jesus a deceiver. He deceived his disciples that he truly rose from the dead when actually he didn't. You claim he only rose spirituality.

With all these wicked lies, you still want to claim that you believe in Jesus.

You also do not believe he is coming back visibly. Why are you people so wicked? Why have you chosen to allow yourself to be used by the devil to deny the truth of God's word.

If you don't repent, even Satan will endure the Lake of fire more than you.

Please, stop claiming to be a follower of Jesus when in the real sense, you are anti Christ.

Where did you see all these?
Who said JWs don't believe that Jesus was raised to life by God?
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50am On Apr 12, 2022
Ken4Christ:

Thank God you have admitted for the first time that you are serving a different God. And that your god is the devil who feeds you with lies that are designed to lure people to the very you deny does not exist.

No wahala, just stop trailing me because your God differs from mine! Matthew 10:25 smiley

Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:17am On Apr 12, 2022
cornelboy:

Raising a person from death back to life is more than those two.

But not someone in the tomb for 3 days or more like Lazarus and no proof that Paul raised a person up. Even none believers do faint and recover so your example is not relevant.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 1:02pm On Apr 12, 2022
MindHacker9009:


But not someone in the tomb for 3 days or more like Lazarus and no proof that Paul raised a person up. Even none believers do faint and recover so your example is not relevant.

Where did you get the proof that Jesus raised Lazarus up?

Whether someone was dead for three day or 10 hours, what's the difference?
They were both given life back. It's the same.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ola17: 1:11pm On Apr 12, 2022
Oaroloye
I’ve been meaning to ask you what is the meaning of “MISHIGAS”.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 10:17pm On Apr 12, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


No wahala, just stop trailing me because your God differs from mine! Matthew 10:25 smiley

I don't want you to deceive more people with your lies. I want you to repent also because you can't defend your lies. How can you call God a thief. That he stole the body of Jesus. Which scripture substantiate that claim? If you keep on in this evil cult, called Jehovah witness, you will be cast into hell. And from hell to the Lake of fire. Pride is what is destroying you. You don't want to admit you are wrong at the detriment of your salvation.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Kobojunkie: 10:24pm On Apr 12, 2022
Felimax:
1. Shows you have very little knowledge about the history of the church.

2. Though He started the church He never wrote anything, some of His followers shadows were healing people like no tomorrow. He did not convert Rome but His followers did and even converted the world.
He took death as God His followers virtually all took death as mare humans. Greater works has His followers done. Go and read about the history of the church.
1. You are kidding, right? undecided

Are you somehow denying the Words of Jesus Christ as stated by the OP? undecided

2. I don't know of anyone else but reads like gobbledygook. How does it address what is stated in the Op? undecided

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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Apr 12, 2022
Ken4Christ:


I don't want you to deceive more people with your lies. I want you to repent also because you can't defend your lies. How can you call God a thief. That he stole the body of Jesus. Which scripture substantiate that claim? If you keep on in this evil cult, called Jehovah witness, you will be cast into hell. And from hell to the Lake of fire. Pride is what is destroying you. You don't want to admit you are wrong at the detriment of your salvation.

In other words i shouldn't talk about my own faith again, shey?
Pharisee self no do pass this! Act 4:18; 5:28 cheesy
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Felimax(m): 11:46pm On Apr 12, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. You are kidding, right? undecided

Are you somehow denying the Words of Jesus Christ as stated by the OP? undecided

2. I don't know of anyone else but reads like gobbledygook. How does it address what is stated in the Op? undecided

Are you the Op? Busy body!
You want me to take responsibility for your inabilities to comprehend what your mother was teaching you?

Let me help you like your comment because you have successfully added another trash to your series of trashed comment on NL.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by xproducer: 12:30am On Apr 13, 2022
MindHacker9009:
For over 2000 years now, but no one has yet done greater works than Jesus. Have there been no true believers for over 2000 years now to do greater works as Jesus has said?

John 14:12, KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

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Which is a greater work?

1. To heal someone of a physical ailment (blindness, leprosy, lameness, physically raising one from the dead, etc.)... or

2. To - by GOD's grace and Almighty Holy Spirit faithfully preach the word of GOD so that those who hear (Romans 10:17), whom GOD mercifully pardons are instantly granted eternal / everlasting life?

Since the Apostles from Pentecost to the present day GOD has - through His servants - done "greater works" that those the Lord JESUS, the CHRIST was referring to - through the Lord JESUS, the CHRIST.

"Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." - John 5:24 (Also Acts 13:46

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" - Matthew 28:19

"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Kobojunkie: 2:45am On Apr 13, 2022
Felimax:
Are you the Op? Busy body!
You want me to take responsibility for your inabilities to comprehend what your mother was teaching you?

Let me help you like your comment because you have successfully added another trash to your series of trashed comment on NL.
So because I mentioned to you in one of my conversations with you that my own mother could not succeed in indoctrinating me as a child in what was then, and still is now nothing but religious bullsheet fed her by pastors and mogs and popes, you think waving your twisted take on that over me will cause me to do what now? undecided

Grow a brain already...Ok undecided

Again..1. You are kidding, right? undecided

Are you somehow denying the Words of Jesus Christ as stated by the OP? undecided

2. I don't know of anyone else but reads like gobbledygook. How does it address what is stated in the Op? undecided
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 5:21pm On Apr 13, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


In other words i shouldn't talk about my own faith again, shey?
Pharisee self no do pass this! Act 4:18; 5:28 cheesy

You should be grateful I am exposing your organization for who they are so you can make a quality choice to leave them and embrace the true gospel. Continuing in the direction you are going with lead to destruction.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:32pm On Apr 13, 2022
Ken4Christ:

You should be grateful I am exposing your organization for who they are so you can make a quality choice to leave them and embrace the true gospel. Continuing in the direction you are going with lead to destruction.
When you failed in the threat you turn to emotional blackmail.
Sorry i love my God and the way i'm worshiping Him, so stop the nonsense and face your own God! smiley
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 10:06pm On Apr 13, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

When you failed in the threat you turn to emotional blackmail.
Sorry i love my God and the way i'm worshiping Him, so stop the nonsense and face your own God! smiley

No problem. You have chosen the part that leads to destruction. But each time you make a post to lure people away from the truth, I will expose your lies and defend the truth. Jehovah witness teachings are luring gullible souls to hell. But I will do my best to help those who are ignorant of the truth not to listen to your lies.
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:14pm On Apr 13, 2022
Ken4Christ:


No problem. You have chosen the part that leads to destruction. But each time you make a post to lure people away from the truth, I will expose your lies and defend the truth. Jehovah witness teachings are luring gullible souls to hell. But I will do my best to help those who are ignorant of the truth not to listen to your lies.

Exactly the same way Jews who were extremists kept disturbing Jesus' followers not to preach:


But the Jews incited the prominent women who were God-fearing and the principal men of the city, and they stirred up persecution against Paul and Barʹna·bas and threw them outside their boundaries. Act 13:50


But Jews arrived from Antioch and I·coʹni·um and persuaded the crowds, and they stoned Paul and dragged him outside the city, imagining that he was dead! Act 14:19


So by your fruit honest hearted individual will know you guys! Matthew 7:16-18 wink

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