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John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 4:43pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
For over 2000 years now, but no one has yet done greater works than Jesus. Have there been no true believers for over 2000 years now to do greater works as Jesus has said? John 14:12, KJV: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Felimax(m): 4:55pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
Shows you have very little knowledge about the history of the church. Though He started the church He never wrote anything, some of His followers shadows were healing people like no tomorrow. He did not convert Rome but His followers did and even converted the world. He took death as God His followers virtually all took death as mare humans. Greater works has His followers done. Go and read about the history of the church. 1 Like |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by oaroloye(m): 5:19pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
MISHIGAS! MindHacker9009: YOU ARE AN EXTREMELY WICKED PERSON, TO DENY THE POWER OF GOD IN THESE MODERN DAYS! What research did you ever do? Have you investigated the ROMAN CATHOLIC SHRINE TO THE VIRGIN MARY, AT LOURDES IN FRANCE? KENNETH COPELAND TESTIFIES OF SMITH WIGGLESWORTH RAISING THE DEAD. SMITH WIGGLESWORTH was a functionally illiterate, early 20th English plumber, who never read any other publication in his life, but The Bible. He was much more powerful in Faith than any trained preacher of his time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrO_DrVUhTQ KENNETH COPELAND was a powerful Miracle Worker, who learned from KENNETH ERWIN HAGIN, or Tulsa, Oklahoma. Their Teachings on Faith were instrumental in saving my life from an endemic blood disease, that should have otherwise killed me. However, applying their Teachings showed me the Hypocrisy of the Organized Christianity they subscribed to. ROMAN CATHOLIC LOURDES SHRINE WEBSITE. https://www.lourdes-france.org/en/miraculous-healings/ The Roman Catholic Church appointed a committee to evaluate alleged Miracles at Lourdes, in order to eliminate imagined or otherwise faked cures, and ratify only definite Miracles. Out of like 700,000 claims, they verify only 70- to illustrate how seriously this is taken. (Do look this up.) OPENING BLIND EYES. Ronald Coyne Healing by Daisy Osborn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xY8cpBPkkhM RAISING THE DEAD. Lady raised from the Dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiAZKTtY3D8 Boy raised from the Dead after 24 hours. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyO7QWYeFTE Man raised- Pakistan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCr87oNY6TA Woman dead for 7 days Raised by Timothy Omotoso. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfrbIXBkD4o T.L. OSBORN AND DAISY OSBORN TELL THEIR STORY. http://youtube.com/watch?v=PlA4aK6VAOA T.L. OSBORN AND WILLIAM BRANHAM. http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvlkckrSYMg oaroloye: CHRISTIANITY IS NOT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS! HOW DO YOU THINK THE DISCIPLES FELT, WHEN LORD YESHUA FINALLY TOLD THEM, THAT HE WAS GOING TO TAKE THEIR 3 1/2 YEARS OF TRAINING ADVANTAGE AND SENIORITY AWAY FROM THEM, AND MAKE EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN EQUAL, AND EVEN SUPERIOR TO THEM? Do you think, that, after all they had suffered together- being persecuted by their own families and friends, forbidden from Synagogues- that they welcomed such a Teaching? It is forgotten that these people were Human Beings, and Human Beings always put their perceived self-interests first. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER ARE EVERY HUMAN BEING'S BEST INTEREST. Anyone who does not perceive that is delusional. oaroloye: IF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING IN GENERAL, AND THE BIBLE IN PARTICULAR, IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN SINFULNESS. If you are a Sinner, it is always the fault of your PARENTS. They were the only ones God gave the mandate to, to teach you The Way of God. God never ordained any "APOSTLE," "PROPHET," "EVANGELIST," "PASTOR," or "TEACHER" to teach us HIS WAY, other than our PARENTS. If our parents don't teach us His Way, then we are surely going to be lost. GOD HAS NO BACKUP SYSTEM TO RESTORE US, IF OUR PARENTS HAVE F(*Bleep!*)D US UP TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CANNOT HEAR HIS VOICE, LET ALONE SEE HIM. God cannot be summoned by Evil. He is no one's TAIL: He is always THE HEAD. oaroloye: LORD YESHUA'S DISCIPLES DELIBERATELY SABOTAGED THE CHURCH, TO PREVENT OTHER CHRISTIANS FROM EQUALLING OR SURPASSING THEM. They swore a Sacred Blood Oath to THE CHIEF PRIESTS and SANHEDRIN COUNCIL to never teach nor Preach any part of Lord Yeshua's Teachings, ever again, and they forbade the Hebrew Christians from teaching the Gentile Christians The Law of Moses and from Circumcising them. THESE DIRECTIVES DESTROYED CHRISTIANITY, FROM THE BEGINNING! The insane Pharisee (not that any of them was ever sane, to begin with!) PAUL infiltrated the Church, after his work of eliminating all eyewitnesses of Lord Yeshua's Resurrection, who never swore the Oath to the SANHEDRIN and Chief Priests, built up up his credibility as a Christianity Spokesman, and used a legal device to get himself to the wicked Emperor Nero, to tell him that he could make a god manifest to him, by persecuting and killing as many of his followers as it would take, to make him respond. . JUDGES 16:30. 30. And Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines." And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life. IF PAUL'S CONVERSION STORY- THAT LORD YESHUA MANIFESTED TO HIM, WHILE HE WAS PERSECUTING THE CHURCH- WERE TRUE, THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE LAST THING HE SHOULD NEVER TELL A MAN LIKE NERO- IN CASE HE SHOULD USE IT AS A PRETEXT FOR DESTROYING THE CHURCH! . JOHN 14:21-27. 21. "He that hath my Commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him." 22. Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, "Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the World?" 23. Jesus Answered and Said unto him, "If a man love me, he will keep my Words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. 24. "He that loveth me not keepeth not my Sayings: and The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. 25. "These things have I Spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26. "But the Comforter, Which is The Holy Ghost, Whom The Father will send in my Name, He shall Teach you All Things, and bring All Things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have Said unto you. 27. "Peace I leave with you, my Peace I give unto you: not as the World giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid." PAUL'S TESTIMONY WAS A LIE- BECAUSE LORD YESHUA DOES NOT MANIFEST TO PEOPLE WHO HATE HIM, AND BREAK HIS COMMANDMENTS. Bit Paul's Plan was that Nero kill him, and every other Christian in the Roman Empire- whom Paul had never had the jurisdiction to arrest before. He thought himself a hero of his Religion. . JUDGES 16:30. 30. And Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines." And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life. IN 64AD, EMPEROR NERO BLAMED THE CHRISTIANS FOR THE GREAT FIRE OF ROME- AND ORDERED THEM EXECUTED. This caused those who had copies of Lord Yeshua's Teachings to release them. That is why we have The Gospels we have today. Several of the Lord Yeshua's key Teachings are missing. This includes most of the interpretations of his Parables- which are The Keys to The Kingdom of Heaven, and all Its Resources. Including The Power to do greater Feats than Lord Yeshua did on Earth. NO ORGANIZED CHRISTIANITY LEADER WANTS ANY CHRISTIAN TO HAVE THIS POWER, AND MOST CLERGYMEN ARE SPECIALLY TRAINED TO PREVENT THEIR FELLOW CHRISTIANS FROM EVER ACHIEVING IT. BIBLICAL MEDITATION is the Key to unloading everything- which is NOT taught in Organized Christianity. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:52pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: Jesus Christ of Nazareth did a lot of WORKS but most misinformed Churchgoers like you assume he was talking about MIRACLES whereas he was referring to physical works that will affect many lives and makes people turn around into new leaves! In the Bible book of John 4:34 Jesus said: “My food is to do the will of him who sent me, and to accomplish his WORK" Here Jesus was preaching and teaching a Samaritan woman! So what WORKS does he meant when he said: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. Well his true followers today are globally known as "Jehovah's Witnesses" ©Jesus preached and teach within the boarders of Israel but we have preached throughout the earth today! ©Jesus only preached in Hebrew language but we have preached in virtually all the languages on planet earth! ©Before his ascension to heaven Jesus only made 500 disciples but we have gathered millions of brothers and sisters throughout the earth today! ©AS the Prince of Peace Jesus couldn't remove weapons from the hearts of his disciples, but we have removed weapons from the hands and hearts of millions across the globe and not only that but they have vowed never to raise weapons against their fellowman again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 compare to Psalms 46:9 ©Jesus never distributed the spiritual sword (Bible) to any one but we have printed and distributed copies of Bible in hundreds of Millions throughout the earth in countless languages! ©Jesus never build a single place of worship in his own time instead he was chased out of the Temple and Jewish synagogues but we have built our headquarters, branch offices and kingdom halls throughout the earth! ©Jesus only stood before Herod Antipas and Roman governor Pontius Pilate during his persecution but we have stood before many rulers of the earth to be persecuted due to our faith! Do you now understand what our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus meant?
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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 6:08pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
If na miracles, the ones Paul did through the power of God is greater o. 1 Like |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:09pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
cornelboy: Did Paul walk on water and did he feed 5000 with a loaf of bread and 2 fishes? |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:21pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
You keep making up your own stories. May you'll become informed after watching this official video on the origin of Jehovah's Witnesses you are so obsessed about. Witnesses of Jehovah (Complete Official) - Jeremiah Films https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3zp9FiyiQ MaxInDHouse: |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 11:22pm On Apr 11, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: So, if they are counting followers of Christ, Jehovah witness will include itself? But you don't believe Jesus rose from the dead bodily. You said God stole his body. So, Jesus did not really rise bodily. We argued he appeared to Thomas. You said, he just materialized for that purpose. You called God a thief and a fraudster and you call Jesus a deceiver. He deceived his disciples that he truly rose from the dead when actually he didn't. You claim he only rose spirituality. With all these wicked lies, you still want to claim that you believe in Jesus. You also do not believe he is coming back visibly. Why are you people so wicked? Why have you chosen to allow yourself to be used by the devil to deny the truth of God's word. If you don't repent, even Satan will endure the Lake of fire more than you. Please, stop claiming to be a follower of Jesus when in the real sense, you are anti Christ. 1 Like |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:52am On Apr 12, 2022 |
MindHacker9009:Once the question raised against my faith has been publicly trashed youre free to keep your opinion to yourself! |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:57am On Apr 12, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Ọ̀gbẹ́ni, how many times have i told you that your God differs from mine? How many times have i told you that your Jesus is not my Jesus? Please park yourself to one corner if you can't stand other people's comments because this is a public forum where everyone is FREE to EXPRESS themselves. The era of your forceful religions and intimidation is over. So talk about your own God and your own Jesus, nobody is forcing my own God on you!
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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 8:04am On Apr 12, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Thank God you have admitted for the first time that you are serving a different God. And that your god is the devil who feeds you with lies that are designed to lure people to the very you deny does not exist. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 8:17am On Apr 12, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: Raising a person from death back to life is more than those two. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 8:45am On Apr 12, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Where did you see all these? Who said JWs don't believe that Jesus was raised to life by God? |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50am On Apr 12, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: No wahala, just stop trailing me because your God differs from mine! Matthew 10:25
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Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MindHacker9009(m): 11:17am On Apr 12, 2022 |
cornelboy: But not someone in the tomb for 3 days or more like Lazarus and no proof that Paul raised a person up. Even none believers do faint and recover so your example is not relevant. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by cornelboy(f): 1:02pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: Where did you get the proof that Jesus raised Lazarus up? Whether someone was dead for three day or 10 hours, what's the difference? They were both given life back. It's the same. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ola17: 1:11pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
Oaroloye I’ve been meaning to ask you what is the meaning of “MISHIGAS”. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 10:17pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: I don't want you to deceive more people with your lies. I want you to repent also because you can't defend your lies. How can you call God a thief. That he stole the body of Jesus. Which scripture substantiate that claim? If you keep on in this evil cult, called Jehovah witness, you will be cast into hell. And from hell to the Lake of fire. Pride is what is destroying you. You don't want to admit you are wrong at the detriment of your salvation. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Kobojunkie: 10:24pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
Felimax:1. You are kidding, right? Are you somehow denying the Words of Jesus Christ as stated by the OP? 2. I don't know of anyone else but reads like gobbledygook. How does it address what is stated in the Op? 1 Like |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:25pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: In other words i shouldn't talk about my own faith again, shey? Pharisee self no do pass this! Act 4:18; 5:28 |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Felimax(m): 11:46pm On Apr 12, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: Are you the Op? Busy body! You want me to take responsibility for your inabilities to comprehend what your mother was teaching you? Let me help you like your comment because you have successfully added another trash to your series of trashed comment on NL. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by xproducer: 12:30am On Apr 13, 2022 |
MindHacker9009: ---- Which is a greater work? 1. To heal someone of a physical ailment (blindness, leprosy, lameness, physically raising one from the dead, etc.)... or 2. To - by GOD's grace and Almighty Holy Spirit faithfully preach the word of GOD so that those who hear (Romans 10:17), whom GOD mercifully pardons are instantly granted eternal / everlasting life? Since the Apostles from Pentecost to the present day GOD has - through His servants - done "greater works" that those the Lord JESUS, the CHRIST was referring to - through the Lord JESUS, the CHRIST. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life." - John 5:24 (Also Acts 13:46 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" - Matthew 28:19 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." - Romans 10:17 |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Kobojunkie: 2:45am On Apr 13, 2022 |
Felimax:So because I mentioned to you in one of my conversations with you that my own mother could not succeed in indoctrinating me as a child in what was then, and still is now nothing but religious bullsheet fed her by pastors and mogs and popes, you think waving your twisted take on that over me will cause me to do what now? Grow a brain already...Ok Again..1. You are kidding, right? Are you somehow denying the Words of Jesus Christ as stated by the OP? 2. I don't know of anyone else but reads like gobbledygook. How does it address what is stated in the Op? |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 5:21pm On Apr 13, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You should be grateful I am exposing your organization for who they are so you can make a quality choice to leave them and embrace the true gospel. Continuing in the direction you are going with lead to destruction. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:32pm On Apr 13, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:When you failed in the threat you turn to emotional blackmail. Sorry i love my God and the way i'm worshiping Him, so stop the nonsense and face your own God! |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by Ken4Christ: 10:06pm On Apr 13, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: No problem. You have chosen the part that leads to destruction. But each time you make a post to lure people away from the truth, I will expose your lies and defend the truth. Jehovah witness teachings are luring gullible souls to hell. But I will do my best to help those who are ignorant of the truth not to listen to your lies. |
Re: John 14:12 "And Greater Works Than These Shall He Do": But No One Has! by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:14pm On Apr 13, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Exactly the same way Jews who were extremists kept disturbing Jesus' followers not to preach: But the Jews incited the prominent women who were God-fearing and the principal men of the city, and they stirred up persecution against Paul and Barʹna·bas and threw them outside their boundaries. Act 13:50 But Jews arrived from Antioch and I·coʹni·um and persuaded the crowds, and they stoned Paul and dragged him outside the city, imagining that he was dead! Act 14:19 So by your fruit honest hearted individual will know you guys! Matthew 7:16-18 |
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