New American Bible
Judges 3 vs 9
But when the Israelites cried out to the LORD, he raised up a savior for them, to save them. It was Othniel, son of Caleb’s younger brother Kenaz.


1. Should othniel be regarded as God and savior

2. Where in the bible did Jesus called himself the Saviour


New International Version
Hebrew 5 vs 7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.



New International Version
Isaiah 43 vs 11
I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

3. Who is the only savior and who saved Jesus from death.

God the father,the son and the holy Ghost is a self existing God who from the beginning said let there be this and that at the onset.This some God manifest in three.Jesus has been with God at the beginning of creature so also the holy ghost.No wonder He said before Abraham was, here am l.when the children of isreal cried to God for saviour, and kenaz was appointed, he was only representing a type of Christ in the old testament until the due time for the saviour to arrived. Moses himself made references to Christ when he was to give way to other leaders. He said "a scelpter shall not depart from Israel until the Shiloh come,unto thee shall the thy people come." Moses made references to Christ in his final moment.In the new testament, he came to His own and was rejected as many as received Him,to them,He gave power to becomes son/daughter of God.JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR.

Jesus said "My father" countless time in the Bible. I don't know why this makes an argument, as its pure English.

He repeatedly made statement till the moment the ghost left him.

So how does my father, be the father, who was he referring to all the time he said it? Himself?

If yes, then the Bibles needs to be re-translated, cos English language does not permit such expression.



Matthew 24:36
No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.
Here Jesus makes a distinction between what he knows and what the Father knows.

Matthew 26:39
My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me, yet not as I will, but as Thou will.
Jesus’ will is likewise autonomous from God’s Will. Jesus is seeking acquiescence to God’s will.

John 5:26
For as the Father has life in Himself, so he has granted the Son to have life in himself.
Jesus received his life from God. God received his life from no one. He is eternally self-existent.

John 5:30
By myself, I can do nothing: I judge only as I hear, and my judgment is just, for I seek not to please myself but him who has sent me.
Jesus says, “by myself, I can do nothing.” This indicates that Jesus is relying upon his own relationship with God. He is not trying to “please myself” but rather is seeking to “please the one who sent me.”

John 5:19
The Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees the Father doing, because whatever the Father does, the Son does also.
Jesus declares that he is following a pattern laid down by God. He is expressing obedience to God.

Mark 10:18
Why do you call me good? No one is good, except God alone.
Here Jesus emphatically makes a distinction between himself and God.

John 14:28
The Father is greater than I.
This is another strong statement that makes a distinction between Jesus and God.

Matthew 6:9
Our Father, which art in Heaven.
He didn’t pray, Our Father, which art standing right here!”

Matthew 27:46
My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?
Inconceivable if he is God the Creator.

John 17:21-23
. . .that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. . ..that they may be one as we are one: I in them and you in me.
In this prayer Jesus defines the term “to be one.” It is clearly accomplished through the relationship of two autonomous beings. Christian believers are to model their relationship (to become one) after the relationship of God and Christ (as God and Christ are one). Notice that “to be one” does not mean to be “one and the same.”

1 Corinthians 15:27-28
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.
Paul declares that God put everything under Christ, except God himself. Instead God rules all things through Christ. (remember: “through him all things were made.”)

Hebrews 1:3
The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being.
Jesus is the exact representation of his being. I send my representative to Congress. He is not me, myself. He is my representative.

Hebrews 4:15 (compared with James 1:13)
For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet without sin.
Jesus has been tempted in every way, just as we are, yet he never sinned.

James 1:13: When tempted, no one should say, God is tempting me. For God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does he tempt.
Jesus was tempted in every way, but God cannot be tempted. This is why Jesus said, “don’t call me good, none are good, only Go

Hebrews 5:7-9
During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission. Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
Jesus had to walk a course of faith and obedience in order to achieve perfection. By achieving perfection, Jesus “became” the source of eternal salvation

Desusi:
God the father,the son and the holy Ghost is a self existing God who from the beginning said let there be this and that at the onset.This some God manifest in three.Jesus has been with God at the beginning of creature so also the holy ghost.No wonder He said before Abraham was, here am l.when the children of isreal cried to God for saviour, and kenaz was appointed, he was only representing a type of Christ in the old testament until the due time for the saviour to arrived. Moses himself made references to Christ when he was to give way to other leaders. He said "a scelpter shall not depart from Israel until the Shiloh come,unto thee shall the thy people come." Moses made references to Christ in his final moment.In the new testament, he came to His own and was rejected as many as received Him,to them,He gave power to becomes son/daughter of God.JESUS IS THE SAVIOUR.

Who saved Christ?

Who did he cry too when he was scared of death?

haekymbahd:
New American Bible
Judges 3 vs 9
But when the Israelites cried out to the LORD, he raised up a savior for them, to save them. It was Othniel, son of Caleb’s younger brother Kenaz.


1. Should othniel be regarded as God and savior

2. Where in the bible did Jesus called himself the Saviour


New International Version
Hebrew 5 vs 7
During the days of Jesus’ life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.



New International Version
Isaiah 43 vs 11
I, even I, am the LORD, and apart from me there is no savior.

3. Who is the only savior and who saved Jesus from death.

Isaiah 43: 11 I, even I, am YHVH, and apart from me there is no savior.

The portion of the Scripture quoted above is apt.

YAHUSHUA ===> YHVH's Salvation.

Indeed, YHVH alone is Saviour.

Yahushua the Messiah saved mankind from the punishment associated with disobedience to the Commandments of the Father, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth.
Sin is disobedience to the Commandment of the Father.

elated177:


Isaiah 43: 11 I, even I, am YHVH, and apart from me there is no savior.

The portion of the Scripture quoted above is apt.

YAHUSHUA ===> YHVH's Salvation.

Indeed, YHVH alone is Saviour.

Yahushua the Messiah saved mankind from the punishment associated with disobedience to the Commandments of the Father, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of heaven and earth.
Sin is disobedience to the Commandment of the Father.

Where is Yahushua mentioned as the Messiah in that Isaiah verse?

Where was Yahushua called Immanuel?

Na Jesus be Yahushua?

AntiChristian:


Where is Yahushua mentioned as the Messiah in that Isaiah verse?

Where was Yahushua called Immanuel?

Na Jesus be Yahushua?

Are you confused? Do you want to learn? I don't have the time for meaningless argument.

You are a Muslim, right? Why does what I believe in bother you, anyway? If it is not knowledge that you seek, what is the point? Why not stick with what you have? I will stick with mine.

haekymbahd:
Who saved Christ?

Did you not read "All power in heaven and earth has been given to me"? Mathew 28:18

Unlike you men, He did not require saving.

haekymbahd:

Who did he cry too when he was scared of death?

Where did you see he was scared of death?

Doth affliction not make a man cry?

And you already know that Jesus Christ is The Son of The Highest, doing the job His Father, The Highest, sent Him to Do.

So, this is He giving report of the Work Done, according to His Job!

elated177:


Are you confused? Do you want to learn? I don't have the time for meaningless argument.

You are a Muslim, right? Why does what I believe in bother you, anyway? If it is not knowledge that you seek, what is the point? Why not stick with what you have? I will stick with mine.

I'm not confused. Why ask if I'm a Muslim when you do not dare make known your religion when prompted?

If you're sticking with what you have and don't want unnecessary argument then you won't be here...

AntiChristian:


I'm not confused. Why ask if I'm a Muslim when you do not dare make known your religion when prompted?

If you're sticking with what you have and don't want unnecessary argument then you won't be here...

Are you sure you aren't confused?

What is religion?

My religion is the strict, absolute and complete obedience to my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Total, absolute and complete obedience to his Commandments, which his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah, my Master and Saviour, embodies is my religion. Isn't that answer enough for you? What other kind of reply do you seek?

Actually, Antichristian, it is because I am sticking with what I have that you don't see me opening threads, quoting from your Quran and questioning the Muslims on their beliefs. Your beliefs have no bearing on my Righteous Walk. Do mine have any bearing on your own walk?

Now, if I open a thread bordering on your Quran and the beliefs of the Muslims, naturally, it is expected that the Muslims will be interested in such thread. And this is whether they are invited or not. It is their book. Asking them what they are doing on such thread is like telling a man not to question a stranger who is walking around in his premises.

AntiChristian, whenever you, or any other person, a Muslim or an atheist, open any thread bordering on the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty and what they say, you are directly seeking the attention of the followers of YHVH Almighty. This shouldn't be too difficult to understand. Heck, I even question those who claim to believe in and follow the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty whenever they open threads bordering on the same Scriptures and say something contrary to what the Scriptures say.
Unless, of course, I am not led to do so.

So, again, antichristian:

"Are you confused? Do you want to learn?

You are a Muslim, right? Why does what I believe in bother you, anyway? If it is not knowledge that you seek, what is the point? Why not stick with what you have? I will stick with mine."

El Elohe Yahshrael!

elated177:


Are you sure you aren't confused?

What is religion?

My religion is the strict, absolute and complete obedience to my Father in heaven, YHVH Almighty, the one and only true God, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. Total, absolute and complete obedience to his Commandments, which his begotten Son, Yahushua the Messiah, my Master and Saviour, embodies is my religion. Isn't that answer enough for you? What other kind of reply do you seek?

Actually, Antichristian, it is because I am sticking with what I have that you don't see me opening threads, quoting from your Quran and questioning the Muslims on their beliefs. Your beliefs have no bearing on my Righteous Walk. Do mine have any bearing on your own walk?

Now, if I open a thread bordering on your Quran and the beliefs of the Muslims, naturally, it is expected that the Muslims will be interested in such thread. And this is whether they are invited or not. It is their book. Asking them what they are doing on such thread is like telling a man not to question a stranger who is walking around in his premises.

AntiChristian, whenever you, or any other person, a Muslim or an atheist, open any thread bordering on the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty and what they say, you are directly seeking the attention of the followers of YHVH Almighty. This shouldn't be too difficult to understand. Heck, I even question those who claim to believe in and follow the Scriptures of YHVH Almighty whenever they open threads bordering on the same Scriptures and say something contrary to what the Scriptures say.
Unless, of course, I am not led to do so.

So, again, antichristian:

"Are you confused? Do you want to learn?

You are a Muslim, right? Why does what I believe in bother you, anyway? If it is not knowledge that you seek, what is the point? Why not stick with what you have? I will stick with mine."

El Elohe Yahshrael!

You seem delusional and more confused than I thought.

Na simple question generate this epistle?

You are truly led by something!

AntiChristian:


You seem delusional and more confused than I thought.

Na simple question generate this epistle?

You are truly led by something!

I am led by the Set-apart Spirit of the Most High God, the one and only true God, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. You?

I know you were short of words --- speechless, even.

AntiChristian, go back and answer those questions. Don't resort to useless and meaningless insults. They have no bearing neither on whose saint, servant and messenger I am nor on me his humble saint, servant and messenger, elated177.

elated177:



I am led by the Set-apart Spirit of the Most High God, the one and only true God, YHVH Almighty, the Creator of the heavens, the earth, the seas and everything in them. You?

I know you were short of words --- speechless, even.

AntiChristian, go back and answer those questions. Don't resort to useless and meaningless insults. They have no bearing neither on whose saint, servant and messenger I am nor on me his humble saint, servant and messenger, elated177.

I'm not short of words. I just thought it's pointless dilly-dallying with who i don't know where s/he belongs.

What's YHVH that can't be pronounced?

And Eli Yahushua ishrael Abi wetin you write before?

AntiChristian:


I'm not short of words. I just thought it's pointless dilly-dallying with who i don't know where s/he belongs.

What's YHVH that can't be pronounced?

And Eli Yahushua ishrael Abi wetin you write before?

Mtcheeeeew! He has no response.