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Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:15pm On Apr 19, 2022
Of course that's what the Isrealites call Him.

Maynman:

So Allah is same as Yahweh?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:16pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Of course that's what the Isrealites call Him.


They called him “Allah”?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:20pm On Apr 19, 2022
The Arabic speaking Jews, yes

Maynman:


They called him “Allah”?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:20pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
The Arabic speaking Jews, yes


Was Bible written in Arabic?
Where was “Allah” spelled out in the Bible. And you’ll also tell me where they use “Yahweh” in islam too.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:23pm On Apr 19, 2022
I'm I answering a quiz? Hope I will be paid at the end?

By the way there are different translations of the bible. Which one exactly are you looking to find Allah.. because it's not written in my King James and Good News Bible (English).

Maynman:


Was Bible written in Arabic?
Where was “Allah” spelled out in the Bible. And you’ll also tell me where they use “Yahweh” in islam too.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:23pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
I'm I answering a quiz? Hope I will be paid at the end?

By the way there are different translations of the bible. Which one exactly are you looking to find Allah.. because it's not written in my King James and Good News Bible (English).


You are the one that said Allah and Yahweh are the same, how did you know? Is it not from the Bible? And hope you know that Zeus too is a God?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:24pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
I'm I answering a quiz? Hope I will be paid at the end?

By the way there are different translations of the bible. Which one exactly are you looking to find Allah.. because it's not written in my King James and Good News Bible (English).

And can you please tell me who and who uses “Yahweh” in Islam or Muslim countries.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:27pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
I'm I answering a quiz? Hope I will be paid at the end?

By the way there are different translations of the bible. Which one exactly are you looking to find Allah.. because it's not written in my King James and Good News Bible (English).


Zeus too is a “God”, the same with Yahweh?

Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:28pm On Apr 19, 2022
No Zeus is not God. Zeus is the god of thunder. He is one of the watchers and one of the Elohim (sons of God), just like Baal.

God, Yaweh, El, Allah all refer to the Almighty God. God has many names, it depends on translation like I said to the Yoruba's they call Olodumare. They all refer to the same supreme God, their description may be subjective and the stories around them but it's the same source.

Maynman:


You are the one that said Allah and Yahweh are the same, how did you know? Is it not from the Bible? And hope you know that Zeus too is a God?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:30pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
No Zeus is not God. Zeus is the god of thunder. He is one of the watchers and one of the Elohim (sons of God), just like Baal.

God, Yaweh, El, Allah all refer to the Almighty God. God has many names, it depends on translation like I said to the Yoruba's they call Olodumare. They all refer to the same supreme God, their description may be subjective and the stories around them but it's the same source.


Where did you get that Zeus is the god of thunder?
Which translation did they write Allah in the Bible? And which in Quran did they write Yahweh?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:31pm On Apr 19, 2022
Islam originated from Arab speaking countries. How do you expect them to use Yaweh? Do we use Yaweh in Nigeria? The Yoruba's use Olorun in the yoruba bible translation, they don't use God. So why do you expect Arab countries to use another name. Besides, Islam does not even agree with having translations of their Quran, so their name of God won't change.

Maynman:

And can you please tell me who and who uses “Yahweh” in Islam or Muslim countries.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:32pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Islam originated from Arab speaking countries. How do you expect them to use Yaweh? Do we use Yaweh in Nigeria? The Yoruba's use Olorun in the yoruba bible translation, they don't use God. So why do you expect Arab countries to use another name. Besides, Islam does not even agree with having translations of their Quran, so their name of God won't change.


So how then did you arrive that Allah is Yahweh? Which translation did you use?

You are saying god is a title now huh
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:34pm On Apr 19, 2022
Oga, please go and read actual textbooks on greek gods. This is a subject I have dealt with well enough. I won't answer your questions again. I'll direct you to a book.

I have lots of interest in religion. Despite being a Christian, I love to learn. I am not that Christian who is stuck in his beliefs not to know the truth. So I advise you follow suit. Go and read, avoid YouTube videos and blogs if you're serious.

Maynman:


Where did you get that Zeus is the god of thunder?
Which translation did they write Allah in the Bible? And which in Quran did they write Yahweh?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:34pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Oga, please go and read actual textbooks on greek gods. This is a subject I have dealt with well enough. I won't answer your questions again. I'll direct you to a book.

I have lots of interest in religion. Despite being a Christian, I love to learn. I am not that Christian who is stuck in his beliefs not to know the truth. So I advise you follow suit. Go and read, avoid YouTube videos and blogs if you're serious.


You are a liar, the god of thunder is Thor.
You have lots of interest for William Tyndale books
Show me where you saw that Zeus is god of thunder.
Fake
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:35pm On Apr 19, 2022
I read books..on the history of religion, Islam and Christianity.
So do the same. I'm not going to argue with you. It's baseless and won't add anything to my knowledge. You haven't even given me anything worth learning.. I've only passed down mine.

Maynman:


So how then did you arrive that Allah is Yahweh? Which translation did you use?

You are saying god is a title now huh
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:36pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
I read books..on the history of religion, Islam and Christianity.
So do the same. I'm not going to argue with you. It's baseless and won't add anything to my knowledge. You haven't even given me anything worth learning.. I've only passed down mine.

You are a liar you didn’t read any book.
How can you say Zeus is a god of thunder?
And Allah is same as Yahweh?
You are a liar!!! You don’t even know the basics.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:37pm On Apr 19, 2022
Lol...Go and read the history of Thor. And then the history of Zeus. Thanks

Maynman:


You are a liar, the god of thunder is Thor.
You have lots of interest for William Tyndale books
Show me where you saw that Zeus is god of thunder.
Fake
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:38pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Lol...Go and read the history of Thor. And then the history of Zeus. Thanks


I have read it, and no where did they say Zeus is the god of thunder, why are you disgracing yourself.
Why don’t you bring it out? cheesy
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:43pm On Apr 19, 2022
No you have not..if you did you would know that Thor is not a greek god but a Norse god. He is the god of thunder.

Zeus is the Greek's god of thunder...like I said they are all the same entities, just with different names from different cultures. Go and read a book to save your life. Have a great day.


Maynman:


I have read it, and no where did they say Zeus is the god of thunder, why are you disgracing yourself.
Why don’t you bring it out? cheesy

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Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:43pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
No you have not..if you did you would know that Thor is not a greek god but a Norse god. He is the god of thunder.

Zeus is the Greek's god of thunder...like I said they are all the same entities, just with different names from different cultures. Go and read a book to save your life. Have a great day.




You are a liar!!!
Zeus was GOD.
It was you that said Zeus was god of thunder, why didn’t you put Norse or Greek?
Keep disgracing yourself, trying so hard to tell us that she’s well read, ordinary Zeus you don’t know.

No where in history did they say Zeus and Thor is the same.

Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:47pm On Apr 19, 2022
It's obvious you hate reading..if only you could open that article and read it till the end. I promise you won't faint. You'd be adding a useful piece of information for your own good.

Maynman:


You are a liar!!!
Zeus was GOD.
Keep disgracing yourself, trying so hard to tell us that she’s well read, ordinary Zeus you don’t know.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:47pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
It's obvious you hate reading..if only you could open that article and read it till the end. I promise you won't faint. You'd be adding a useful piece of information for your own good.


Why don’t you open it and show me where you read it, liar!
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zeus

Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:51pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
It's obvious you hate reading..if only you could open that article and read it till the end. I promise you won't faint. You'd be adding a useful piece of information for your own good.


Ordinary Zeus you don’t know, your indoctrination is not yet complete from watchtower..
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:57pm On Apr 19, 2022
Lol... you think I haven't read it? That's why I'm laughing at you. It's either you hate reading or you have limited education. If you can't understand what is in front of you, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying stop engaging in arguments you have no knowledge about. Read a book to save your life.

If you've read that article, it will explain to you clearly how Zeus is not the God or Allah. God or Allah, is not a sky God or thunder God. Zeus only wields the weather as a weapon, like Thor, he controls the thunder and sea storms. He is considered the head of the Greek gods. Zeus is the father of the Greek gods and considered the ruler of men.

God is not the ruler of men, he is the Creator, Father, he doesn't control the storms or thunder, he owns it all, he made them all.

Stop confusing yourself. In that same article, they mentioned that the Hinduism equivalent of Zeus is the god Dyaus. Thor is the Norse version of Zeus. They all control the weather, they are all seen holding an instrument Thor like Sango, holds a hammer, Zeus holds a Lightening bolt...the hammer and the bolt all control the thunder and lightning.

Read a book to save your life.

Maynman:


Why don’t you open it and show me where you read, liar!
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zeus
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:57pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Lol... you think I haven't read it? That's why I'm laughing at you. It's either you hate reading or you have limited education. If you can't understand what is in front of you, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying stop engaging in arguments you have no knowledge about. Read a book to save your life.

If you've read that article, it will explain to you clearly how Zeus is not the God or Allah. God or Allah, is not a sky God or thunder God. Zeus only wields the weather as a weapon, like Thor, he controls the thunder and sea storms. He is considered the head of the Greek gods. Zeus is the father of the Greek gods and considered the ruler of men.

God is not the ruler of men, he is the Creator, Father, he doesn't control the storms or thunder, he owns it all, he made them all.

Stop confusing yourself. In that same article, they mentioned that the Hinduism equivalent of Zeus is the god Dyaus. Thor is the Norse version of Zeus. They all control the weather, they are all seen holding an instrument Thor like Sango, holds a hammer, Zeus holds a Lightening bolt...the hammer and the bolt all control the thunder and lightning.

Read a book to save your life.


Noise, kindly show me where you read that “Zeus is the god of thunder”
You didn’t read the article one bit, in that same article they called Zeus omnipotent.
Didn’t you say Yahweh is the equivalent to Allah in Islam? And equivalent to olorun?
You are a serial liar!
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:58pm On Apr 19, 2022
I'm not even Jehovah Witness.. you really have an education problem. To assume everyone is JW on nairaland. I came for an intellectual discourse on the origin of African religion, I didn't expect to meet a substandard arguement.

Maynman:


Ordinary Zeus you don’t know, your indoctrination is not yet complete from watchtower..
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 3:59pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
I'm not even Jehovah Witness.. you really have an education problem. To assume everyone is JW on nairaland. I came for an intellectual discourse on the origin of African religion, I didn't expect to meet a substandard arguement.


You don’t have any knowledge on the origin of African religion. Just show me where you read that Zeus is the god of thunder.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zeus
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by peggywebbs(f): 3:59pm On Apr 19, 2022
You just proved you're an illiterate if you're asking me to show you books that are available on the internet you're using to defend yourself. Are you only limited to using Google? Sorry I'll wait for an educated person to engage me so I can make my noise.

Maynman:


Noise, kindly show me where you read that “Zeus is the god of thunder”
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 4:00pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
You just proved you're an illiterate if you're asking me to show you books that are available on the internet you're using to defend yourself. Are you only limited to using Google? Sorry I'll wait for an educated person to engage me so I can make my noise.


Dull Professor thinks we have “google books” grin

But you said you saw it here https://www.britannica.com/topic/Zeus

Which book did you read that it was stated that Zeus is the god of thunder.. Mention one, just one..
Mention the name of the book and that same google will bring it out.

They also called Zeus — “GOD”. So if there’s only one GOD then well well well

You are a serial liar.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by LordReed(m): 4:25pm On Apr 19, 2022
membranus:
I have suddenly come to realise that before the advent of the Europeans to Africa, we Black Africans have no religion per se. Though we have native gods aplenty, but in truth we have not among us, within our individual communities, any widely accepted religion.

If we have, where are the architectural remains of the temples or place of gathering we erected for their worship? There were none. Go through the whole of Black Africa, where are the types of such temples or altars like those which the Europeans erected for their idols or gods like Diana, Hercules, Thor or Saturn? Or such as erected across the whole of Asia for Buddha, or in Egypt for Ra, or by the Mexicans for their Incan gods? You will find none, except for some miserable stones in several groves upon which measly offals, blood, oil, meals and drinks are poured to appease their demonic ancestors, which they turn to their gods. There were no temples or monuments built for general gathering to worship a particular god, but various households built shrines to serve their own choice of deity inside their compounds.

So even in monuments to ancestral deities, Black Africa was also backward. Therefore it was when the Europeans brought the true religion of Christianity, and when the Arabs brought Islam that Churches and Mosques were began to be built to worship God.

And the conclusion is what? European or Asian gods are more powerful than African gods?
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by KnownUnknown: 5:36pm On Apr 19, 2022
peggywebbs:
Lol... you think I haven't read it? That's why I'm laughing at you. It's either you hate reading or you have limited education. If you can't understand what is in front of you, I'm not mocking you. I'm just saying stop engaging in arguments you have no knowledge about. Read a book to save your life.

If you've read that article, it will explain to you clearly how Zeus is not the God or Allah. God or Allah, is not a sky God or thunder God. Zeus only wields the weather as a weapon, like Thor, he controls the thunder and sea storms. He is considered the head of the Greek gods. Zeus is the father of the Greek gods and considered the ruler of men.

God is not the ruler of men, he is the Creator, Father, he doesn't control the storms or thunder, he owns it all, he made them all.

Stop confusing yourself. In that same article, they mentioned that the Hinduism equivalent of Zeus is the god Dyaus. Thor is the Norse version of Zeus. They all control the weather, they are all seen holding an instrument Thor like Sango, holds a hammer, Zeus holds a Lightening bolt...the hammer and the bolt all control the thunder and lightning.

Read a book to save your life.


After all was said and done, Zeus created man, Brahmin breathed the breathe of life, Vishnu preserved life, and Shiva commenced his cosmic dance to sustain the universe and in time destroy it. Gilgamesh flooded the world, Yahweh dried it up, then Pyrhha and Deucalion gathered and tossed stones behind themselves. Pyrhha’s stones turned into woman and Deucalion’s stones turned into man. Afterwards, Prometheus taught them to use fire. One day Thanos got fed up about the misery and strife in the universe and started gathering the infinity stones. The rest is history.
Re: Do Africans Have Any Widespread Religion Before The Advent Of The Europeans? by Maynman: 5:39pm On Apr 19, 2022
KnownUnknown:


After all was said and done, Zeus created man, Brahmin breathed the breathe of life, Vishnu preserved life, and Shiva commenced his cosmic dance to sustain the universe and in time destroy it. Gilgamesh flooded the world, Yahweh dried it up, then Pyrhha and Deucalion gathered and tossed stones behind themselves. Pyrhha’s stones turned into woman and Deucalion’s stones turned into man. Afterwards, Prometheus taught them to use fire. One day Thanos got fed up about the misery and strife in the universe and started gathering the infinity stones. The rest is history.

The woman has zero knowledge in history.. how can you say Zeus is “god of thunder”. Zeus just like Yahweh is God.

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