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Polygamy - A Bad Idea by DaBogu: 9:03am On Apr 30, 2022
Excerpt from David Hundeyin is a writer, travel addict and journalist majoring in politics, tech and finance

When Yul Edochie made his big annoucement, a lot of the ensuing commentary focused on gender politics, marital infidelity and the usual mind -numblingly boring themes that unfortunately animates the Nigeria social media spaces. Let me just state clearly I have zero opinion on Yul Edochie's indiscretions or decision. What a person does with their Instruments is nobody's business but theirs and theirs spouse unless it involves activity like RAPE.

Since Yul Edochie did not rape, there is zero case to answer regarding the morality or lack thereof of his decision of father a child outside of his marital home. Let me repeat that for emphasis: A decision to play a metaphorical away match and some away with the metaphorical trophy is not an issue for hundreds of thousands of occupationally challenge young people to obsess over. It's none of our business and it's really not that important anyway.

My issues however, is with the ancillary implication raisedby actors action. Remember how is the previous subheading, I complained about an infantile unthinking devotion to "the ways of our ancestors", as though our ancestors were an especially wise or successful people worthy of emulation? Let me reiterate using the issue of polygamy: why does there continue to be a belief that polygamy is or should be a good thing simply because our ancestors did it? Could out ancestors not be wrong about many things -perhaps even disastrously so?

In 2019 while working with International Committee on Nigeria (ICON) and the International Project for Peace Building and Social Justice (PSJ) on the silent Genocide report that later for Nigeria placed on a US state Department diplomatic notice list, I came across something that expanded my mind. One of the sources interviewed in the report explained that some of tension between Christian and Muslim communities in Northern Nigeria caused by economic disparity directly resulting from outcome of polygamous marriage practice in the Muslim area.

He explained that while the Christian area had linear inheritance practices since one man generally had one set of immediately descendants, the Muslim areas had severe economic dislocation since one man could have up to 4 set of immediate descendants (and sometimes more). Thus the monogamous Christian area were able to pass wealth down in a linear societal cohesion while the polygamous Muslim areas ended up with thousands of an angry men who had no inheritance, no land, no education and no hope.

In addition, where 10 men and 10 women cam theoretically marry each other and have 10 set of children who are genetically diverse enough to marry each other, 1 man and 10 women in a polygamous setting may produce the same children, but said children are siblings, which means they cannot marry each other. Unsurprisingly, geographical area with high rates of polygamy also tend to have more wars and conflict, as the pool of marriageable women is too small to accommodate a growing population of angry, undersexed young men who soon turn feral.

If this all sounds strangely familiar to you, that because you have already seen all of this happen - in fact you are seeing it happen right now in front of you Boko Haram, Ansaru, ISWAP and whatever designation terrorist give themselves tomorrow, we are all direct beneficiaries of the economic and societal dislocation caused by polygamy. Without it, their ranks could never have been swelled to their current number. There is even a strong argument to be made for linking the 300-year long slave trade abomination in West Africa to the practice of polygamy.

The fact that our ancestors did something does not - should not- make it acceptable for us to do it. Our ancestors did lots of things. The sold human beings for coloured pieces and corrugated roofing sheets. They made smallpox a god and worshipped it. They created writing scripts like Nsibidi, and hoarded them exclusively for elite priest and royalty so that information and knowledge could not be saved and compounded across generation. They became the only civilisation in human history to be completely, utterly, comprehensively and decisively conquered on their own land to the extent of adopting other people's gods, claiming other people's ancestry and even adopting skin bleaching.

A wise man once said, "For what is tradition, but peer pressure from dead people?"
Think about it

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Jashub: 9:14am On Apr 30, 2022
When people support polygamy I often laugh at their foolishness . Let's assume Yul's wife wanted to get a second husband , would he want such ? Certainly not ! But David here is saying otherwise because of his liberal lifestyle towards immoral behavior.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by thesicilian: 9:29am On Apr 30, 2022
Let everyone speak for themselves
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Hamachi(f): 9:39am On Apr 30, 2022
I can but applaud the writer. This is an excellent thought provoking write up.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Hamachi(f): 9:40am On Apr 30, 2022
Jashub:
When people support polygamy I often laugh at their foolishness . Let's assume Yul's wife wanted to get a second husband , would he want such ? Certainly not ! But David here is saying otherwise because of his liberal lifestyle towards immoral behavior.
Good question
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Hamachi(f): 9:42am On Apr 30, 2022
thesicilian:
Let everyone speak for themselves
Sir, read with an open mind
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Kdon2: 10:35am On Apr 30, 2022
Jashub:
When people support polygamy I often laugh at their foolishness . Let's assume Yul's wife wanted to get a second husband , would he want such ? Certainly not ! But David here is saying otherwise because of his liberal lifestyle towards immoral behavior.

Se na yul carry wife put inside his house abi na the wife carry yul put for her house. Abeg make una dey think we'll before una go dey yearn now. Abi na yearn for yearning sake ni! Haba fear God na!
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Hamachi(f): 10:56am On Apr 30, 2022
Kdon2:


Se na yul carry wife put inside his house abi na the wife carry yul put for her house. Abeg make una dey think we'll before una go dey yearn now. Abi na yearn for yearning sake ni! Haba fear God na!
What's your point

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Jashub: 11:09am On Apr 30, 2022
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Kdon2:


Se na yul carry wife put inside his house abi na the wife carry yul put for her house. Abeg make una dey think we'll before una go dey yearn now. Abi na yearn for yearning sake ni! Haba fear God na!
[/s] The fact still remains that Yul should treat his wife as he would want her to treat him

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Kobojunkie: 12:39pm On Apr 30, 2022
DaBogu:
The fact that our ancestors did something does not - should not- make it acceptable for us to do it. Our ancestors did lots of things. The sold human beings for coloured pieces and corrugated roofing sheets. They made smallpox a god and worshipped it. They created writing scripts like Nsibidi, and hoarded them exclusively for elite priest and royalty so that information and knowledge could not be saved and compounded across generation. They became the only civilisation in human history to be completely, utterly, comprehensively and decisively conquered on their own land to the extent of adopting other people's gods, claiming other people's ancestry and even adopting skin bleaching.

A wise man once said, "For what is tradition, but peer pressure from dead people?"
Think about it
Interesting! undecided

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by thesicilian: 1:37pm On Apr 30, 2022
Hamachi:
Sir, read with an open mind
What's open minded about calling an idea a bad one irrespective of the perspective of others who support such an idea?

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Hamachi(f): 2:44pm On Apr 30, 2022
thesicilian:

What's open minded about calling an idea a bad one irrespective of the perspective of others who support such an idea?
no vex huncle
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by satandeterrible: 9:59pm On Apr 30, 2022
A very stupid writeup.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Cousin9999: 11:48am On May 01, 2022
economic disparity directly resulting from outcome of polygamous marriage practice in the Muslim area.

Fair argument. But this assumes that all people in a polygamous marriage are poor, uneducated, and all the wives unemployed. A working class/middle class polygamous marriage is basically a small firm.

1 man and 10 women in a polygamous setting may produce the same children, but said children are siblings

Fair argument. But the same thing can happen just from having large families in small areas. For example, Mexicans complain about "every Mexican" possibly being a cousin. And some black Americans in the south refer to each other as "cousin" because some communities are so genetically small that a random person might actually be a cousin.

And attraction to light skin can also cause the problem. High rates of modern consanguinity are linked directly to these views, for example, India, black Americans, and south Americans.

the pool of marriageable women is too small to accommodate a growing population of angry, undersexed young men who soon turn feral

This is idiotic. But if we take this seriously. Indians actually have the undersexed problem just from having a society that's too conservative where they obsess over virginity. The problem can also appear where society views females as inferior and overproduces males, for example, India and China.

They became the only civilisation in human history to be completely, utterly, comprehensively and decisively

This person sounds white, gross, and miserable. They probably fear handsome, masculine, tall, muscular African men marrying 3 of their women. lol They probably tear up at the thought. They should be nervous. Most heterosexual women prefer a black zaddy. lol

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Threesha(f): 12:20pm On May 01, 2022
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satandeterrible:
A very stupid writeup.
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by DaBogu: 6:47am On May 02, 2022
smiley
Kobojunkie:
Interesting! undecided
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Threesha(f): 7:54am On May 03, 2022
thesicilian:

What's open minded about calling an idea a bad one irrespective of the perspective of others who support such an idea?
cry
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by emmanuelbrown26: 8:36am On May 03, 2022
Same stupid writeup in a different way. What crime did Yul commit?
What offence did Yul commit? I don't just understand why una dey carry dis matter for head, if d wife feel dejected, she should simply go back to her papa house.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by QuinModah(f): 8:55am On May 03, 2022
The problem with most people commenting is they usually don't read the post with Open mind
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Threesha(f): 8:12am On May 05, 2022
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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by cococandy(f): 8:31am On May 05, 2022
Unsurprisingly, geographical area with high rates of polygamy also tend to have more wars and conflict, as the pool of marriageable women is too small to accommodate a growing population of angry, undersexed young men who soon turn feral


Don’t say this too loud. Alfa meils around these areas have illogically convinced themselves that they can each have multiple women without someone sharing with their brothers. Don’t disillusion them.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by GloriousGbola: 8:45am On May 05, 2022
Cousin9999:


This person sounds white, gross, and miserable. They probably fear handsome, masculine, tall, muscular African men marrying 3 of their women. lol They probably tear up at the thought. They should be nervous. Most heterosexual women prefer a black zaddy. lol

Africans are the only ones that lost their identity after colonisation /encounters with the white man.
Indians, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese - their culture is largely intact. Right down to their religions

If the best you can do is reference adult entertainment fetishesization of black men, then you are fulfilling one of the stereotypes of a black man as a person driven by sexual urges first and foremost

Fair argument. But this assumes that all people in a polygamous marriage are poor, uneducated, and all the wives unemployed. A working class/middle class polygamous marriage is basically a small firm.

We don't do statistics in Nigeria - but do you honestly think that the middle or upper class are a large percentage of those practising polygamy? Abiola was a polygamist billionaire. And today his fortune is scattered to the winds. How far does a fortune go among several offspring that the patriarch was unable to train because of numbers?

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by GloriousGbola: 8:54am On May 05, 2022
The feral nature of boko haram is clear. Even though they try to hide it, occasionally stories of gang rapes get out. Add to that the forced marriages and kidnaps of secondary school girls.

Fu-ck you, David hundeyin for a brilliant, thought provoking piece that will once again pit me against my fellow Muslims who subscribe to viability of polygamy and Allah will provide for our children.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Nobody: 8:59am On May 05, 2022
Jashub:
[s][/s] The fact still remains that Yul should treat his wife as he would want her to treat him

My dear ...
In as much as I don't support polygamy, I also don't interfer in other people's decisions as long as it doesn't affect me undecided....

If a man wants to marry multiple women, then that's fine! It shouldn't be a problem, if the women involved have an issue with it, then they should go back to their various houses, shikinah!!!

If a woman in turn wants to marry multiple husbands, guyyyyyy that not my business!!! If only the men involved would accept it, then all's good in my opinion undecided...

That young man called Yul committed no crime in my opinion, if he did, then sue him!
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Mindlog: 9:05am On May 05, 2022
GloriousGbola:


Africans are the only ones that lost their identity after colonisation /encounters with the white man.
Indians, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese - their culture is largely intact. Right down to their religions

If the best you can do is reference adult entertainment fetishesization of black men, then you are fulfilling one of the stereotypes of a black man as a person driven by sexual urges first and foremost



We don't do statistics in Nigeria - but do you honestly think that the middle or upper class are a large percentage of those practising polygamy? Abiola was a polygamist billionaire. And today his fortune is scattered to the winds. How far does a fortune go among several offspring that the patriarch was unable to train because of numbers?

You responded well.

I am reading a schoolmate's draft dissertation focused on the objectification of black men by females of other races as a sexual tool whose only usefulness is to meet their fetish but not dependable when it comes to developmental strides by global standards, reason he is at the bottom rung of the ladder.

I am reading it with mixed feelings but I can't diminish someone's academic work.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Cousin9999: 5:01pm On May 05, 2022
GloriousGbola:
Africans are the only ones that lost their identity after colonisation /encounters with the white man.
Indians, Arabs, Chinese, Japanese - their culture is largely intact. Right down to their religions

Indians hate themselves and many practice Christianity. They mürder each other for looking like their race. They're extremely subservient to oyinbos, quite possibly the most of any group of people. Bleaching is an accepted practice, as is colorism. They inbreed to maintain a light complexion. Historically, oyinbos brought Indians to colonies where locals fought subjugation because they knew Indians were willing släves. They continue to prove they are (H1B).

Arabs also hate themselves and display similar behavior. They're just as violent towards each other. They maintain their religion because it supports the depravity (e.g. slävery as an accepted practice) they want to continue. West Asia might very well be the most depraved corner of the world. Bleaching is an accepted practice along with colorism. They also inbreed for complexion.

Chinese hate themselves and mangle their faces with cosmetic surgery in addition to heavy bleaching despite having pale skin. They're extremely subservient to oyinbos and gladly marry them over their own. Many also practice Christianity, and consider it an escape from the flaws of their culture.

Those groups are so mentally colonized that oyinbos praise them. Oyinbos see them as lapdogs.

Which African cultures and identities are no longer intact? And what is the significant impact of this? Oh and when you're done, translate it into one of the 2000 languages spoken in Africa. (India; 121: China; 302: Arab world; 60).

If the best you can do is reference adult entertainment fetishesization of black men, then you are fulfilling one of the stereotypes of a black man as a person driven by sexual urges first and foremost

My assertion has nothing to do with pörnögraphy. It stems from the reality that heterosexual women are attracted to masculinity, charm, strength, and skilled lovers. Something which nonblacks cannot universally claim or defend. They're feminine with terrible personalities, frail bodies, and inept in bed. Even if they possess a shred of these qualities, they cannot best the average African man. Which is one of the reasons they work so very hard to undermine African men in every way possible.

- but do you honestly think that the middle or upper class are a large percentage of those practising polygamy?

You did not comprehend my statement.

Abiola was a polygamist billionaire. And today his fortune is scattered to the winds. How far does a fortune go among several offspring that the patriarch was unable to train because of numbers?

There are men in monogamous marriages, never married, and with several divorces who have kids all over the place, are dysfunctional, do not care for their children, and fall into poverty. If those circumstances are not an indictment of monogamy then Abiola doesn't have anything to do with polygamy.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by GloriousGbola: 5:13pm On May 05, 2022
Cousin9999:


Indians hate themselves and many practice Christianity. They mürder each other for looking like their race. They're extremely subservient to oyinbos, quite possibly the most of any group of people. Bleaching is an accepted practice, as is colorism. They inbreed to maintain a light complexion. Historically, oyinbos brought Indians to colonies where locals fought subjugation because they knew Indians were willing släves. They continue to prove they are (H1B).

Arabs also hate themselves and display similar behavior. They're just as violent towards each other. They maintain their religion because it supports the depravity (e.g. slävery as an accepted practice) they want to continue. West Asia might very well be the most depraved corner of the world. Bleaching is an accepted practice along with colorism. They also inbreed for complexion.

Chinese hate themselves and mangle their faces with cosmetic surgery in addition to heavy bleaching despite having pale skin. They're extremely subservient to oyinbos and gladly marry them over their own. Many also practice Christianity, and consider it an escape from the flaws of their culture.

Those groups are so mentally colonized that oyinbos praise them. Oyinbos see them as lapdogs.

Which African cultures and identities are no longer intact? And what is the significant impact of this? Oh and when you're done, translate it into one of the 2000 languages spoken in Africa. (India; 121: China; 302, Arab world; 60).



My assertion has nothing to do with pörnögraphy. It stems from the reality that heterosexual women are attracted to masculinity, charm, strength, and skilled lovers. Something which nonblacks cannot universally claim or defend. They're feminine with terrible personalities, frail bodies, and inept in bed. Even if they possess a shred of these qualities, they cannot best the average African man. Which is one of the reasons they work so very hard to undermine African men in every way possible.



You did not comprehend my statement.



There are men in monogamous marriages, never married, and with several divorces who have kids all over the place, are dysfunctional, do not care for their children, and fall into poverty. If those circumstances are not an indictment of monogamy then Abiola doesn't have anything to do with polygamy.

this mumbo jumbo makes it clear that conversing with you is a complete waste of time.

indians, arabs, and chinese hate themselves cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
heterosexual women are attracted to masculinity, strenght charm and skilled lovers - no wonder black men are teh preferred husbands all over the world cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

i am not sure what you are supposed to lay off - recreational drugs, stormfront type websites, pick up blogs, or all of the above

this is a potent mishmash of mumbo jumbo

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Cousin9999: 5:42pm On May 05, 2022
GloriousGbola:


this mumbo jumbo makes it clear that conversing with you is a complete waste of time.

indians, arabs, and chinese hate themselves cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

heterosexual women are attracted to masculinity, strenght charm and skilled lovers - no wonder black men are teh preferred husbands all over the world cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

i am not sure what you are supposed to lay off - recreational drugs, stormfront type websites, pick up blogs, or all of the above

this is a potent mishmash of mumbo jumbo

You can't argue against any of my points. You can only respond with emotion.

They show their self-hate whenever they jump to marry oyinbos just because they can (black people do it for green cards), whenever they kíll an Indian for being dark skinned, whenever they happily promote skin bleaching products (bleaching products generate the most money in Asia), and whenever they chop away at their Chinese eyes, nose, and mouth with multiple surgeries.

African men are preferred, that's why other groups threaten death, violence, and being shunned when their women show attraction or have intercourse with African men. They're threatened.

When Asian men go abroad, foreign women don't care they exist. But a poor, average black man can easily sleep with and marry local women.

Women will even risk backlash to be with African men. They'll get disowned by their family for their black husband.

No one does that for Chinese, Arabs, or Indians. Chinese, Arab, and Indian men are punchlines.

Women all over the world will pay to access African men. They'll shower African men with so many gifts that it's a source of income. They'll pay to bring African men to their country, not expect them to work, and have tons of their children. They'll marry black men in their country, have a bunch of their kids, and never place any financial demands on them. No women are doing this for Asian men. Not even Asian women. lol Another example of self-hate.

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by GloriousGbola: 5:49pm On May 05, 2022
Cousin9999:


You can't argue against any of my points. You can only respond with emotion.

They show their self-hate whenever they jump to marry oyinbos just because they can (black people do it for green cards), whenever they kíll an Indian for being dark skinned, whenever they happily promote skin bleaching products (bleaching products generate the most money in Asia), and whenever they chop away at their Chinese eyes, nose, and mouth with multiple surgeries.

African men are preferred, that's why other groups threaten death, violence, and being shunned when their women show attraction or have intercourse with African men. They're threatened.

When Asian men go abroad, foreign women don't care they exist. But a poor, average black man can easily sleep with and marry local women.

Women will even risk backlash to be with African men. They'll get disowned by their family for their black husband.

No one does that for Chinese, Arabs, or Indians. Chinese, Arab, and Indian men are punchlines.

Women all over the world will pay to access African men. They'll shower African men with so many gifts that it's a source of income. They'll pay to bring African men to their country, not expect them to work, and have tons of their children. They'll marry black men in their country, have a bunch of their kids, and never place any financial demands on them. No women are doing this for Asian men. Not even Asian women. lol Another example of self-hate.


please carry on in your delusional fantasies. you can share pictures of the women from all over the world banging down your door

indians are the ones with the real revenge - they are conquering silicon valley and have white men answering to them. but you are recycling stormfront articles .

please carry on

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Mindlog: 6:01pm On May 05, 2022
Cousin9999:


You can't argue against any of my points. You can only respond with emotion.

They show their self-hate whenever they jump to marry oyinbos just because they can (black people do it for green cards), whenever they kíll an Indian for being dark skinned, whenever they happily promote skin bleaching products (bleaching products generate the most money in Asia), and whenever they chop away at their Chinese eyes, nose, and mouth with multiple surgeries.

African men are preferred, that's why other groups threaten death, violence, and being shunned when their women show attraction or have intercourse with African men. They're threatened.

When Asian men go abroad, foreign women don't care they exist. But a poor, average black man can easily sleep with and marry local women.

Women will even risk backlash to be with African men. They'll get disowned by their family for their black husband.

No one does that for Chinese, Arabs, or Indians. Chinese, Arab, and Indian men are punchlines.

Women all over the world will pay to access African men. They'll shower African men with so many gifts that it's a source of income. They'll pay to bring African men to their country, not expect them to work, and have tons of their children. They'll marry black men in their country, have a bunch of their kids, and never place any financial demands on them. No women are doing this for Asian men. Not even Asian women. lol Another example of self-hate.


Does that not translate to a man who has been emasculated, a kept man? cheesy

I am looking around here in my neighborhood here in the UK and wondering why I am seeing some African men adorning their reflective jackets heading to their night shifts in different factories and warehouses when they could easily be snapped up by women of means and live a pampered life! cheesy cheesy

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Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by Cousin9999: 6:22pm On May 05, 2022
GloriousGbola:


please carry on in your delusional fantasies. you can share pictures of the women from all over the world banging down your door

You're telling on yourself.

indians are the ones with the real revenge - they are conquering silicon valley and have white men answering to them. but you are recycling stormfront articles .

please carry on

Indians are hired those roles because:

They'll accept any amount of abuse from oyinbos.

They're cheap.

They take the blame for oyinbos' bad decisions.

They're racist.

They're ignorant and easily manipulated.
Re: Polygamy - A Bad Idea by GloriousGbola: 6:28pm On May 05, 2022
Cousin9999:


You're telling on yourself.



Indians are hired those roles because:

They'll accept any amount of abuse from oyinbos.

They're cheap.

They take the blame for oyinbos' bad decisions.

They're racist.

They're ignorant and easily manipulated.


Yes I am sure satya nadella took the blame for raising ms share value to its highest. Ditto for alphabets ceo. And Adobes ceo.

You must be living in some sort of lala land if you think people are employed as leaders to 'take the blame for bad decisions)

You clearly know nothing beyond the words of white losers and pickup artistes

Maybe if you read those sites enough, an army of women from around the world will come for you tongue

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