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See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by jammyrock(m): 10:42am On May 16, 2022
See what actually killed Deborah & lessons Christians should learn from her death.

It is with a great sense of responsibility that I condemn the brutal killing of our sister, friend, course mate, cousin, colleague, member and fellow Nigerian, Ms. Deborah.

The manner at which she died was so barbaric and horrible.
I heartily express my condolences to her family, friends, course mates and everyone who feels the pain of her demise.

Now, let's look at something I think if she had done or avoided, wouldn't have led to her horrible end.
Nigeria is a country that houses several religions. And, the Nigerian constitution has to some extent, been able to keep the practitioners together to achieve what looks like peaceful coexistence. When it comes to believe and Faith, every religion takes them seriously. But, to the extent of taking lives for the sake of a religion that you met here in the physical world is what drives me round the bend. There are numerous cases where a Muslim man has saved christian brothers from harm and there have also been instances, where christians saved and fed Muslims too. The traditional practitioners are also good people who have shown kindness to both Muslims and Christians. Both Islam and Christianity to some extent, have redlines. The traditional religion is not exempted. In fact, as individuals, you have boundaries that you don't want anyone to cross. But, how you react to those who cross your redlines explains how tolerant, good and human you are. When mortals fight for their God, I ask, is your God not powerful enough to deal with anyone who blasphemes it? But then, no one enjoys blasphemy against his/her faith.
The major problem in Sokoto particularly is ignorance and lack of education. Majority of the youths are not educated to know that certain things are wrong. Those who are educated from the North and are Muslims would not take laws into their hands. Although, some supposed educated persons from the North have expressed satisfaction on the death of Deborah. Those fellows are not up to a handful.

Among what people think sponsored the killing of Deborah is the fact that the attack was targeted at Ndigbo. Well, I can't say what the perpetrators had in mind. But, was Deborah from the South East? No! You would be closer if you thought it was targeted at Christians, but was that their intent? I suppose not. You see, if Deborah was a Muslim, they would have killed still. However, the incident is subject to diverse interpretations.

At this point, lets look at things this way. If you're a Christian, this part is dedicated to you; learn something.
The allegations were that Ms. Deborah, when asked how she passed her exams, she replied that it was Jesus Christ. Secondly, that she went ahead to call "nonsense" the religious contents posted on their school Whatsapp group. Thirdly, that she responded with "Holy Ghost Fire", saying that nothing would happen to her. Lastly, that she has been doing that repeatedly and wouldn't apologize whenever she was asked to do so.

Christians Listen Carefully and learn these:

1. God is not a kid
2. He has given you the privilege to choose between life and death; and even advised that you choose life.
3. Your destiny lies in your own hands
4. God will not shield you when you're wrong
6. Your sins might be forgiven, but you must face the consequences - whatever you sow, you shall reap.

Ignorance also played out in Ms. Deborah. She thought that because she believed in God and was a true Christian, that God would protect her from the perpetrators after she ignited their anger and refused to apologize. Not to mention that she called Holy Ghost Fire too to take charge. I'm sorry to say, but you see that passage in the Bible that says that 'my people perish for lack of knowledge', it played a very big role in her death. Well, that might be her time to join her ancestors, but what if she had retracted her comments from the Whatsapp group and apologized? What do you think? In such instance, God would have prevented her horrible end. But you see, Christians are too familiar with their God that they proudly cross the boundaries of others and assure you that their God would protect them. I repeat, nature is not your mate.

This is not to blame the dead, but to let today's christians know that it is important we treat others with regards to humanity instead of religion. Also to Muslims, without humanity, religion would be impossible.
You may not have read about the traditional brethren a lot in this piece. This is because these guys are always focused in their thing. In fact, they are at the receiving end whenever there's a misunderstanding between them and Christians. Christians derive pleasure in burning their shrines and holy places. This is also condemnable. Everyone has the right to religion. We Christians must recognize and respect other religions as we expect them to respect Christianity.

Conclusively, what actually killed Deborah was ignorance on the part of the perpetrators, coupled with ignorance and pride in Ms. Deborah's part. The condemnable mob actions served as a means, whether you believe it or not.

For those of that are not comfortable with the truth, you can now attack me on the comment section �

Happy Monday �

Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by chatinent: 10:49am On May 16, 2022
No matter what, you have no right to kill anyone!
Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by flames007(m): 11:07am On May 16, 2022
No amount of grammar and religious dogma can justify taking someone's life. What the Bleep do they mean by 'red line'?

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Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by portplus: 11:08am On May 16, 2022
chatinent:
No matter what, you have no right to kill anyone!

No matter what.....we have a responsibility to keep safe and stay alive...
Scriptures admonishes us to be as gentle as the dove and be as wise as the serpent.....e get y

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Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by Divoc19(f): 11:26am On May 16, 2022
Some religion believe in killing anyone for their God.
Op is saying we should tread with caution.
chatinent:
No matter what, you have no right to kill anyone!
Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by bobestman(m): 12:51pm On May 16, 2022
When in Rome you should do as the Romans do. The Romans might be wrong in many things but you need to do how they do their things cos it's their world.

The lady knew she is surrounded by ppl who don't value human life. They can kill in just a seconds. They fight and kill for their religion. She also have had many die cos of what she did. It's their state and their land. They are backed up by their religious leaders too. You don't have strength to fight them. Neither do you have any spiritual power to deal with them. Yet you can't apologies. The Jesus you are calling did he came and save you?

The Christ taught ppl that if one or a group have to fight ppl and see that those far greater than them in numbers, the less group should call for peace. This is not weakness cos one live to fight another day. You insult or fight ppl far greater than you in their own land. Their are even other Christians their but they kept quiet cos they know the rules. Such will happen untill the day for their judgement which is already near. That judgement will end all your religious for a true and forgotten Way

I blame Religion. Both the North and South once lived in peace in their land before they used religion to divide and conquer them. Today they fight each other out of ignorance cos they don't know who they are in prehistoric times

The one you all call God, his son or any other messenger sent by him only came to do His will. Non established any religion. Men stole their teachings and created religion with it. The person you all know as Christ will end religion in his coming just like he was against them when he was on earth. Many of you Christians knew nothing about your religion. He will end all your religions and establish his dominion here on earth. He will also build his kingdom where everyone will come to seek alhim and his father. Ppl everywhere will be running around to seek that true way and be part of it here on earth just like you all read in the book of Isaiah

Islam will start a great war they will destroy many and then many of you will see who you don't know arise and save his chosen ppl. He will end wickedness and evil among his ppl and establish his dominion here. Mind you his chosen ppl are his ppl by bloodline who believe and work righteousness and also those among other religions who stood for truth and righteousness written as gentiles. The Meek and the pure in heart are those who have the new kingdom not Christians/Muslims/Church goers/JWs and other religious folks teaching what they don't know
Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by YorubaKinging: 11:45am On May 17, 2022
Hello, my comment is completely off topic

I wish there was a way to start a conversation with someone else on this platform

I took the time to read most of your posts about your understanding of things in this world

I must commend you for you’ve done some good works of knowing some truths

Yet I must point out my disapproval of some of your beliefs or guesses

David was not reincarnated messiah,

The messiah is also son of God but in human flesh, He is God on earth and will be God on earth after he’s come back

He and his Father are one

You said The messiah didn’t die for any sins, some people might call this blasphemy, indeed I understand that there has been corruption in the Bible , yet many verses point to him as the Lamb of God, the sacrificial lamb,

The Father is a very strict character who never changes his words, he has ordained the wages of sin as death, yet all of us has sin, and the Father fill of wisdom see it good to send himself, the son of man to pay the ultimate price for the chosen ones , he is the redeemer, and he didn’t redeem many by money or riches but by his own blood.

Please I would like to continue this conversation as I’ve learned a lot from your previous posts

God bless


bobestman:
When in Rome you should do as the Romans do. The Romans might be wrong in many things but you need to do how they do their things cos it's their world.

The lady knew she is surrounded by ppl who don't value human life. They can kill in just a seconds. They fight and kill for their religion. She also have had many die cos of what she did. It's their state and their land. They are backed up by their religious leaders too. You don't have strength to fight them. Neither do you have any spiritual power to deal with them. Yet you can't apologies. The Jesus you are calling did he came and save you?

The Christ taught ppl that if one or a group have to fight ppl and see that those far greater than them in numbers, the less group should call for peace. This is not weakness cos one live to fight another day. You insult or fight ppl far greater than you in their own land. Their are even other Christians their but they kept quiet cos they know the rules. Such will happen untill the day for their judgement which is already near. That judgement will end all your religious for a true and forgotten Way

I blame Religion. Both the North and South once lived in peace in their land before they used religion to divide and conquer them. Today they fight each other out of ignorance cos they don't know who they are in prehistoric times

The one you all call God, his son or any other messenger sent by him only came to do His will. Non established any religion. Men stole their teachings and created religion with it. The person you all know as Christ will end religion in his coming just like he was against them when he was on earth. Many of you Christians knew nothing about your religion. He will end all your religions and establish his dominion here on earth. He will also build his kingdom where everyone will come to seek alhim and his father. Ppl everywhere will be running around to seek that true way and be part of it here on earth just like you all read in the book of Isaiah

Islam will start a great war they will destroy many and then many of you will see who you don't know arise and save his chosen ppl. He will end wickedness and evil among his ppl and establish his dominion here. Mind you his chosen ppl are his ppl by bloodline who believe and work righteousness and also those among other religions who stood for truth and righteousness written as gentiles. The Meek and the pure in heart are those who have the new kingdom not Christians/Muslims/Church goers/JWs and other religious folks teaching what they don't know
Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by bobestman(m): 11:07pm On May 17, 2022
YorubaKinging:
Hello, my comment is completely off topic

I wish there was a way to start a conversation with someone else on this platform

I took the time to read most of your posts about your understanding of things in this world

I must commend you for you’ve done some good works of knowing some truths

Yet I must point out my disapproval of some of your beliefs or guesses

David was not reincarnated messiah,

The messiah is also son of God but in human flesh, He is God on earth and will be God on earth after he’s come back

He and his Father are one

You said The messiah didn’t die for any sins, some people might call this blasphemy, indeed I understand that there has been corruption in the Bible , yet many verses point to him as the Lamb of God, the sacrificial lamb,

The Father is a very strict character who never changes his words, he has ordained the wages of sin as death, yet all of us has sin, and the Father fill of wisdom see it good to send himself, the son of man to pay the ultimate price for the chosen ones , he is the redeemer, and he didn’t redeem many by money or riches but by his own blood.

Please I would like to continue this conversation as I’ve learned a lot from your previous posts

God bless



Many here are carried away by religion but don't know that the truth is beyond religion. It's a Revelation. A truth ppl must seek earnestly before they can find it. This is why I tell them that many things they read in all their religious books first have their root in their African histories/tradition/Culture. The pink men who are very cunning and want continually rule over Africans twisted the histories to what we all know today. I commend you also for always trying to seek and search out the truth

We are both comcious and woke as I understand cos only woke and conscious ppl can understand all these. So our understanding may defer also. I will never claim to know better. As you understand it, so be it. David was the Messiah in human terbancle in that era via Incarnation. He spoke of his future self as the Christ in many prophecies he put down in the Psalms. "Thou will not leave my soul in hell" here he was talking about his future coming as the Christ when he will be killed and burried in the grave (hell) but his soul was not left there cos he resurrected on the third day. There are many verses I can decode. David was prophesying about his future self. He was seeing visions about his future self and was putting it into writtings as in the Psalms. If you are woke and spiritual, you see both past and future things about yourself in dreams and visions. He was a king from the tribe of Judah that will fight for his ppl against their enemies and give them their own holy land where he will rule as king.He is the Lion of the the tribe of Judah. In his future as the Messiah he will be the lion who will unleash terror on the wicked who killed his ppl. Many have seen the Messiah as a lion waiting to feast on his enemies. He first came as a lamb but now will come as a lion for war. He will unite his people. Establish his kingdom here on earth and as their king. Christ is also called the lion of the tribe of Judah. What do you understand here? What similarities did you notice among the two? Christ has the key of David. There are many more. In reincarnation/incarnation, it's the same path you walked in the previous life that you try to improve on. Now they told you that Elijah was John the Baptist. Study the lifestyle of John and Elijah and you will see that it's the same path and person. Elijah had trouble with an evil queen. John was imprisoned and killed cos of a queen. Even now as we speak the same John or Elijah to come in our time is imprisoned by a queen.

Bro your sin remains yours untill you repent and start living right. The Messiah died for no one's sin. He was the sacrificial lamb that will stamp sin and wickedness out of the world AT HIS COMING. Wickedness and sin has not ended in the world. Without it ending in the world we can't stop sinning cos we are mortals. That scripture was talking about when he comes but they killed him unjustly preventing him from fulfilling that part. Then they wrote that his death has freed then from sin. It's a Christian/Roman lie. They killed him and twisted his teachings cos many things there never favoured them. They lied to the world. All Hebrews knew these even the self acclaimed Israelites. They still do atonement-a prayer with fasting for forgiveness of sins. The Messiah never said anywhere when he was in the world that he will die for ppls sins. Ppl who approached him to know about the incoming kingdom he told them to repent/born again/keep the commandments. He never told anyone that they should wait that he will die for their sins. It's a Roman lie and the world is blindly following that today. Daniel warned and told you ppl that he will be killed unjustly/murder to prevent him from fulfilling the vision- that is why all that was written about him was not fulfilled at that his coming. He also warned that some will go ahead of time to establish the vision. They did. Twisted the stories and the world that he died for their sins. The world don't even know that they brought another Messiah as they told you in the book of Thessalonia - the son of perdition. Their is a true Messiah and an impostor Messiah the world follow. The truth will shock the world when it's revealed. Christ at his coming will end sun in the world. He will Refine or polish his ppl at his coming to make them a vessel unto honour. It's only in a sinless world that ppl can live righteously. With wickedness in the world you will only be striving to live right. My friend we all will keep striving to do what is right in a wicked world until the Messiah comes as a priest and perform that sacrifice that will end sin and wickedness in the world. Blasphemy ke, blast Femi ni. Wake up bro. This are not ranting or guessing. It's the lost and forgotten truth. Soon to be restored

Other things you said are ok by me.
Re: See What Actually Killed Deborah & Lessons Christians Should Lear From Her Death by YorubaKinging: 9:16am On May 22, 2022
Indeed , it’s of a truth that David through the psalms prophesied of the end times, and even of Jesus Christ

I still think David was not messiah, David according to book of Daniel will be Michael who’s going to stand up for his people in the last days

Also, some books of prophets also talked about david coming back to be king

So it’s safe to say david will come back even before the messiah will come back

David killed another man because of his wife, the messiah will never do this ,

Messiah character from the beginning as been one would blemish

So that ruled David out of it, david didn’t come as lamb when he was king of Israel , he did many terrible things

Jesus truly died for the sins of some

That’s why it’s written that some 144000 are Virgins before God and they are without fault

It’s not that those people are saints or without sin but the blood of the lamb was shed for them send they are the first fruit to God

Other people will follow after them, those are from every tribes and tongues whose sins are also forgiven

Indeed the scripture was corrupted by the romans and even changed or created some fictional characters in the New Testament, the chief of which was PAUL

Most of the writings attributed to Paul were the works of other apostles

Yet Paul has to be created to make romans accepted as also part of the church

The conversion of Paul is one of the things that never happened



bobestman:


Many here are carried away by religion but don't know that the truth is beyond religion. It's a Revelation. A truth ppl must seek earnestly before they can find it. This is why I tell them that many things they read in all their religious books first have their root in their African histories/tradition/Culture. The pink men who are very cunning and want continually rule over Africans twisted the histories to what we all know today. I commend you also for always trying to seek and search out the truth

We are both comcious and woke as I understand cos only woke and conscious ppl can understand all these. So our understanding may defer also. I will never claim to know better. As you understand it, so be it. David was the Messiah in human terbancle in that era via Incarnation. He spoke of his future self as the Christ in many prophecies he put down in the Psalms. "Thou will not leave my soul in hell" here he was talking about his future coming as the Christ when he will be killed and burried in the grave (hell) but his soul was not left there cos he resurrected on the third day. There are many verses I can decode. David was prophesying about his future self. He was seeing visions about his future self and was putting it into writtings as in the Psalms. If you are woke and spiritual, you see both past and future things about yourself in dreams and visions. He was a king from the tribe of Judah that will fight for his ppl against their enemies and give them their own holy land where he will rule as king.He is the Lion of the the tribe of Judah. In his future as the Messiah he will be the lion who will unleash terror on the wicked who killed his ppl. Many have seen the Messiah as a lion waiting to feast on his enemies. He first came as a lamb but now will come as a lion for war. He will unite his people. Establish his kingdom here on earth and as their king. Christ is also called the lion of the tribe of Judah. What do you understand here? What similarities did you notice among the two? Christ has the key of David. There are many more. In reincarnation/incarnation, it's the same path you walked in the previous life that you try to improve on. Now they told you that Elijah was John the Baptist. Study the lifestyle of John and Elijah and you will see that it's the same path and person. Elijah had trouble with an evil queen. John was imprisoned and killed cos of a queen. Even now as we speak the same John or Elijah to come in our time is imprisoned by a queen.

Bro your sin remains yours untill you repent and start living right. The Messiah died for no one's sin. He was the sacrificial lamb that will stamp sin and wickedness out of the world AT HIS COMING. Wickedness and sin has not ended in the world. Without it ending in the world we can't stop sinning cos we are mortals. That scripture was talking about when he comes but they killed him unjustly preventing him from fulfilling that part. Then they wrote that his death has freed then from sin. It's a Christian/Roman lie. They killed him and twisted his teachings cos many things there never favoured them. They lied to the world. All Hebrews knew these even the self acclaimed Israelites. They still do atonement-a prayer with fasting for forgiveness of sins. The Messiah never said anywhere when he was in the world that he will die for ppls sins. Ppl who approached him to know about the incoming kingdom he told them to repent/born again/keep the commandments. He never told anyone that they should wait that he will die for their sins. It's a Roman lie and the world is blindly following that today. Daniel warned and told you ppl that he will be killed unjustly/murder to prevent him from fulfilling the vision- that is why all that was written about him was not fulfilled at that his coming. He also warned that some will go ahead of time to establish the vision. They did. Twisted the stories and the world that he died for their sins. The world don't even know that they brought another Messiah as they told you in the book of Thessalonia - the son of perdition. Their is a true Messiah and an impostor Messiah the world follow. The truth will shock the world when it's revealed. Christ at his coming will end sun in the world. He will Refine or polish his ppl at his coming to make them a vessel unto honour. It's only in a sinless world that ppl can live righteously. With wickedness in the world you will only be striving to live right. My friend we all will keep striving to do what is right in a wicked world until the Messiah comes as a priest and perform that sacrifice that will end sin and wickedness in the world. Blasphemy ke, blast Femi ni. Wake up bro. This are not ranting or guessing. It's the lost and forgotten truth. Soon to be restored

Other things you said are ok by me.

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