Mikee19:

You asked ME? ? ? WHERE? ? ?
Pls always know who you address. You never asked me any question I didn't answer. If you know you did pls link to it. This is such a simple question, why would I avoid it?
Also, ppl are at liberty to not respond to everything they see. m sure u know this. There are so many things a person thinks of on his own, than to answer everything they see esp if you don't call them directly. Next time pls don't say stuff like this again unless u actually ask me!
Second, it takes a lot to type. It also takes an honest heart to read it all, if one really wants to be sure of what they know. It's not too huge a price to pay to read a lot if u know u don't know it all and your salvation may be at stake, no matter what.
To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity...
You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same.
Now over to you. Respond to my earlier comment as I've now responded to yours.

Mikee19:

Now over to you. Respond to my earlier comment as I've now responded to yours.

To respond to this u asked, here, the King James translators used a particular manuscript that it appeared in, but this manuscript is a later manuscript. It doesn't appear in the earlier ones, so it's safe to translate it without the words used in King James, because earlier manuscripts don't have it. But note that King James translators ACTUALLY SAW IT in the manuscript they used; they didn't invent it from nothing. But because the earlier manuscripts don't have it that way it's better to not include it in a translation (that's why more recent translations exclude it). Everyone knows it's a weak way to defend trinity..

You see, I can never use such scripture to defend trinity. I won't even use John 1:1. In fact, I will use the New World Translation of the JWs to prove trinity right in anyone's face! Because I know it's the truth of God's word. I can use anything. It'll remain the same.

Janosky:

All your quotes of John 8:44 and the curse of Isaiah 5:20 fall on your deluded head.

Deluded , LYING John W con artist, did the screenshot of Mark 12:29 NWT REFUTE his claim about Jehovah in the Greek Scriptures & New World Translation?
Ordeh !!!!!

Mikee19:
Janosky see this thing isn't hard. If Jesus was truly doing what you ppl say he was doing, then it won't be difficult to see him EACH DAY saying "Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah" every time so as to make that name known to his disciples. We won't have to be depending on quoted scripture only. Don't u think he will like to use the name all the time every chance he got? Like every time o! Every second of everyday! That we don't see this happening should prove it enough to you that you're wrong! Not even ONCE! Every time quoted scripture that the translators put "Jehovah" inside! That doesn't even appear in the original manuscript. Very very weak argument

johnw47:


Isa 5:20  Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 

lost fraud jw janosky

when christians talk about the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit
they are talking about the Father and Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible

you false jw call the Christians Holy Spirit of the bible: "the ole demon ghost"

when i quote scripture saying you are of your father the devil, and a liar
i am quoting the truth:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


woe to you oh lost blasphemer janosky, for calling good evil:

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

johnw47:


lost fraud jw janosky

whose claim? who do you think you are talking to now?
you will forever have those voices in your head

so funny, and talk about deluded, you certainly are
and paranoid as hell, it all due to your habitual lying:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Janosky:


Achorladey posted a screenshot made FALSE about Jehovah in the Greek scripture but you saw the screenshot of Mark12:29 in NWT & Aramaic Bible & you John W LYING, deluded slave of Trinity so desperate to provide proof of your delusion.

Greek scripture but you saw the screenshot of Mark12:29 in NWT & Aramaic Bible

achorladey:


NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER read your post very well and carry your SHAMELESSNESS comot for my mentions stop manipulating my SCREENSHOT into your.......





And returned replying with your READ and QUOTE . Awon NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER

Janosky:

Achorladey posted a screenshot made FALSE about Jehovah in the Greek scripture but you saw the screenshot of Mark12:29 in NWT & Aramaic Bible & you John W LYING, deluded slave of Trinity so desperate to provide proof of your delusion.

Janosky:

John W LYING on this forum,
ALL your quotes of John 8:44 and the curse of Isaiah 5:20 fall on your deluded head.
Deluded , LYING John W con artist, did the screenshots 1&2 of Mark 12:29 NWT REFUTE your MALICIOUS LIES about Janosky & about Jehovah in the Greek Scriptures?
Ordeh !!

johnw47:


lost and so deluded blasphemer janosky

you didn't get it the firse time, so once again

you call the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit "the three dogheads"
and you call the Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost"

when i quote you as being "of your father the devil and a liar"
i am quoting the truth
 
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

those voices in your head have you so confused oh lost one, the screenshot: "The Lord our God, the Lord is one" is a nice verse, just what is it you want me to tell you about it, and post the malicious lies you claim i said about you oh deluded one, and i will show yet again how it is the truth. all those voices in your head, you don't know who is saying what, so funny, it comes from all your lying and blaspheming

1 cor 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints


you false jw's call out names and post your lies and confusion
because you have nothing else, of course
except blasphemy, paranoia etc.

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.

rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

lost and so deluded blasphemer janosky

you didn't get it the firse time, so once again

you call the Father and Jesus and the Holy Spirit "the three dogheads"
and you call the Holy Spirit "the ole demon ghost"

when I quote you as being "of your father the devil and a liar" I am quoting the truth

achorladey:









Many problems for Janosky the NO GET SENSE PEDDLING PEDDLER



He wants to deny and lie his way out of his NO GET SENSE PEDDLING. Yet he said christendom used JEHOVAH(one of those he called DOGHEADS) in their worship to God on Sunday. All I see his delusion



He has learnt the art and act from his taskmasters.

Janosky:

Continue to insult yourself,Mr LIENUS.
They come online be throwing tantrums "the name is not in the new testament", the name is not God's name blah blah blah...
Tomorrow Sunday,all of them go enter their business centers singing. "Jehovah is your name, Jehovah is your n....a....m.....e".
3 deities worshippers and their HYPOCRISY.
D

cornelboy:



Why didn't the earlier manuscripts have it but the later ones have it?
Which one is authentic? The ones KJV use or the one some other translations use?


Alright. Go for it.

First, who were the first people to believe in the trinity?
When was the doctrine established?

MaxInDHouse:


The Jewish Rabbis decided to stop using God's personal name centuries before Jesus Christ but by the time Jesus walked the earth most Jews still know the name that's why Jesus only mention it in few instances since his listeners knows the name of their God:

Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah" Mark 12:29 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4

But most translators erroneous substitute the divine name with the title "LORD" that's why you will see verses like Psalms 23:1 say:

The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. Psalms 23:1

If the divine name is restored back to it's place this is what David said:

Jehovah is my Shepherd. I will lack nothing.

Those translators had serious issue when under inspiration David later talked about what will happen in heaven when the Messiah (Christ) complete his earthly mission {John 19:30} and return to heaven.
David said:

Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet" Psalms 110:1

Let's read the same verse in most versions that the divine name has been removed:

The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. Psalms 110:1

Can the upper or lower case be noticed in the reading if you're preaching to someone who feel like giving you a audience? The answer is NO!

johnw47:
so called jw's must have demons in their heads saying
trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity trinity ............................

to them, all Christians are trinitarians

there is a lot of mental instability in that false jw sect, of course

johnw47:

people can see Christ in Christians

people can see false jw org. in false jw's

thanks poster, so true

Na Janosky dey do that rubbish, maybe he's scared of Trinitarians

Courz:


Jesus is not an important personality in the JW Cult at all! Antichristlike! Watchtower was at least honest from the Chart below that they don't receive directions from Jesus who is supposed to be the Head of the Church and the One in charge of Heaven and Earth right now. The authority of Jesus matters not. Watchtower is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to God Almighty except through Watchtower. Pitiful! No wonder Russell felt he was better than Jesus.

Watchtower also showcased their beloved Cross and Crown in their 2016 documentary. They are proud of their Masonic heritage.

Courz:


Why should a Freemason organisation with these many False Prophecies below be the Right Interpreter of the Bible? Freemasons are against Christianity as a whole. Expect twisting of the scriptures especially if their doctrines are from Demons.

Look at the disgraceful legacy they are leaving behind below.

OLAADEGBU:


"Is the Watchtower Organisation a Trustworthy Interpreter of Scripture?"

See how they have identified themselves collectively as God's prophet here

OLAADEGBU:


Is the Watchtower Organization a Trustworthy Interpreter of Scripture?
by Luke Wayne | May 20, 2016 | Jehovah's Witnesses, World Religions

The Jehovah's Witnesses identify their governing body, the Watchtower Organization, as the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matthew 24:42-46. They believe that only with this organization's Spirit-guided help can one properly understand the Bible. As one Watchtower publication put it:

"All who want to understand the Bible should appreciate that the 'greatly diversified wisdom of God' can become known only through Jehovah's channel of communication, the faithful and discreet slave," (Watchtower, Oct. 1, 1994, p. 8).

They have identified themselves collectively as God's prophet but have made many false prophecies, and have admitted that if people were to study the Bible on their own, they would arrive at traditional Christian beliefs like the Trinity rather than at the distinctive teachings of the Jehovah's Witnesses. We are, therefore, asked to abandon the obvious meaning of the Bible and instead accept the Watchtower's interpretation as authoritative. The Watchtower Organization, however, has proven itself to be a completely untrustworthy interpreter of the Bible. One clear proof of this comes to us from the fact that the Watchtower system of interpretation consistently produces specific predictions. When they use their approach to the Bible to predict future events (which they have done on many occasions), they fail every time. The Watchtower writers admit that this is a perfectly fair test, having themselves said:

"Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers. He identifies them by making the messages he delivers through them come true. Jehovah is also the Great Exposer of false messengers. How does he expose them? He frustrates their signs and predictions. In this way he shows that they are self-appointed prognosticators, whose messages really spring from their own false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!" (Watchtower, 1997 May 1, pg. 8)

The problem is not only that they make false predictions on the authority of God's word and are thus false prophets. That is certainly a huge problem and is more than sufficient reason to reject them, but there is more. The problem is also that the system of interpretation that leads them to these false predictions betrays the fact that they have no clue how to read and understand the Bible properly, and therefore have absolutely no grounds to insist that their own failed interpretations must be believed over against the plain meaning of the text. Such false predictions are the result of their particular method of interpretation. This is clear evidence that this interpretation is, to use their own words, "false reasoning – yes, their own fleshly thinking!"

What about Kumuyi the Reformer of OLAADEGBU deeper life Church?

What about OLAADEGBU'S Church fathers misinterprete holy scriptures in the screenshot OLAADEGBU opened a thread for?

HYPOCRITE WAILING about JWs dwelling in his head rent free 24/7.

OLAADEGBU:


Good question. I trust them to run away from answering this question. Courz may be the Jws greatest nightmare.

OLAADEGBU ,You are on Nairaland to DECEIVE YOURSELF.
Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus transmitted to OLAADEGBU.

Janosky:


OLAADEGBU ,You are on Nairaland to DECEIVE YOURSELF.
Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus transmitted to OLAADEGBU.

OLAADEGBU:


The fear of Courz is the beginning of JWs wisdom.

Janosky:
Deluded devotees of POLYTHEISM and Courz IBERIBEIST, according to the screenshots of OLAADEGBU (slave of Kumuyi) did your church fathers receive direction to interpret scriptures from Jesus?
HYPOCRITES from their mother's womb.

johnw47:
people can see Christ in Christians

people can see false jw org. in false jw's

thanks poster, so true

Janosky:
OLAADEGBU manifest Symptoms of Courz Oteneaaron IBERIBEISM virus.