Why is Surah 115 and Surah 116 not in the Hafs Quran commonly used in Nigeria?


Muslims would want everybody to believe that there is only one Arabic Quran. Unfortunately, the standard Islamic Narrations has been found to be complete lies to deceive both Muslims and non-Muslims.

When you show them that there are two MAJOR Arabic Qurans in existence "the Hafs Quran" and the "Warsh Quran", they say that the difference is just in pronunciation ANOTHER LIE!

Today, I want to bring to you the fact that Muslims do not want you to know that some Arabic Qurans Have Surah 115 and Surah 116 (Surat al-Khal and Surat al-Hafd)

To avoid any controversy, Ill post these two surahs here for all to see.


Attachment 1: Surat al-khal
Attachment 2: Surat al-Hafd

AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:

1. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?
2. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?


How many other lies is the islamic narrative hiding?

You can all see how ALL Muslims run away from this thread.

If lies go on for twenty years, in one sudden day, the truth will catch up with it.

The Truth shall indeed set you free!

TenQ:
Why is Surah 115 and Surah 116 not in the Hafs Quran commonly used in Nigeria?


Muslims would want everybody to believe that there is only one Arabic Quran. Unfortunately, the standard Islamic Narrations has been found to be complete lies to deceive both Muslims and non-Muslims.

When you show them that there are two MAJOR Arabic Qurans in existence "the Hafs Quran" and the "Warsh Quran", they say that the difference is just in pronunciation ANOTHER LIE!

Today, I want to bring to you the fact that Muslims do not want you to know that some Arabic Qurans Have Surah 115 and Surah 116 (Surat al-Khal and Surat al-Hafd)

To avoid any controversy, Ill post these two surahs here for all to see.


Attachment 1: Surat al-khal
Attachment 2: Surat al-Hafd

AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:

1. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?
2. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?


How many other lies is the islamic narrative hiding?

Mr man, bring the hafs Quran u are talking about and snap it with your camera to confirm the shi.t u talking about

Mr man, since u don't have evidence for what u are saying except posting edited picture can u pls can u pls tell us the real age of Saul when he became king .


1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was [ forty ] years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years [/b]old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there grin



New Heart English Bible
Saul [b]was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

compton11:
Mr man, bring the hafs Quran u are talking about and snap it with your camera to confirm the shi.t u talking about

You don't even know you use the Hafs Qur'an? Warsh Qur'an us used more in Morocco and other North African countries.

Since you asked about the Hafs Qur'an,
The Hafs Qur'an is the Qur'an from Uthman through Hafsah (daughter of Mohammed) (that is why it is called Hafs Qur'an!

For your information,The two most influential codices at the time of Uthman were ʿAbdullah ibn Masʿud's and Ubayy ibn Kaʿb's.


Sorry you didn't know these!

compton11:
Mr man, since u don't have evidence for what u are saying except posting edited picture can u pls can u pls tell us the real age of Saul when he became king .


1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was [ forty ] years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was --years [/b]old when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there grin



New Heart English Bible
Saul was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

Let's first deal with the so called EXACT WORDS of ALLAH which does not have the tiniest CHANGE from the ORIGINAL from the time of Mohammed.

If you can admit that the Words of Allah has changed, I can oblige you the study of the bible. Until then,

How come the Qur'an you use does NOT have Surah 115 and Surah 116 and it is still perfectly preserved.
Did the tame goat eat them up too?

TenQ:


Let's first deal with the so called EXACT WORDS of ALLAH which does not have the tiniest CHANGE from the ORIGINAL from the time of Mohammed.

If you can admit that the Words of Allah has changed, I can oblige you the study of the bible. Until then,

How come the Qur'an you use does NOT have Surah 115 and Surah 116 and it is still perfectly preserved.
Did the tame goat eat them up too?

nigga,I've told u to bring the Qur'an use said it doesn't have those verses and snap it with your phone camera make we see it here.

Now answer my question mr man,how old was Saul when he became king?

compton11:
nigga,I've told u to bring the Qur'an use said it doesn't have those verses and snap it with your phone camera make we see it here.

Now answer my question mr man,how old was Saul when he became king?

Stubborn denial do not change the truth. Google is your friend if you think I am lying .

When lies gets unbridled, we use truth to scatter it.

The Islamic Narrative and lies of the perfectly preserved Qur'an is bursted for ever.

Do you concur to this?

TenQ:

Stubborn denial do not change the truth. Google is your friend if you think I am lying .

When lies gets unbridled, we use truth to scatter it.

The Islamic Narrative and lies of the perfectly preserved Qur'an is bursted for ever.

Do you concur to this?

Oda u win,ain't that what u want?


Now

How old was Saul when he became king?

TenQ:
Why is Surah 115 and Surah 116 not in the Hafs Quran commonly used in Nigeria?


Muslims would want everybody to believe that there is only one Arabic Quran. Unfortunately, the standard Islamic Narrations has been found to be complete lies to deceive both Muslims and non-Muslims.

When you show them that there are two MAJOR Arabic Qurans in existence "the Hafs Quran" and the "Warsh Quran", they say that the difference is just in pronunciation ANOTHER LIE!

Today, I want to bring to you the fact that Muslims do not want you to know that some Arabic Qurans Have Surah 115 and Surah 116 (Surat al-Khal and Surat al-Hafd)

To avoid any controversy, Ill post these two surahs here for all to see.


Attachment 1: Surat al-khal
Attachment 2: Surat al-Hafd

AntiChristian:
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:

1. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?
2. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?


How many other lies is the islamic narrative hiding?

Where are they using those qur'an?
Be specific.

Bring a quote from those qur'an by a Muslim scholar from among those that use it?

Then, i can answer you.

mhmsadyq:


Where are they using those qur'an?
Be specific.

Bring a quote from those qur'an by a Muslim scholar from among those that use it?

Then, i can answer you.

You have not answered my questions. Anyways,
They use it exactly as you Nigerian Muslims use Surah Al-Fathia by Syrian Muslims. For me because it was from Ubayy bin Kab is extremely important.

Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!


BTW, I attached the two surahs in my original post

TenQ:

You have not answered my questions. Anyways,
They use it exactly as you Nigerian Muslims use Surah Al-Fathia!

Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

Mr man u won and u haven't answered me my question.


How old was Saul when he became King?

compton11:
Mr man u won and u haven't answered me my question.


How old was Saul when he became King?

First admit the fact that Muslims have told obvious lies as per the perfect preservation of the Qur'an, then I will answer you. Except for that, you are wasting your time!

TenQ:

First admit the fact that Muslims have told obvious lies as per the perfect preservation of the Qur'an, then I will answer you. Except for that, you are wasting your time!

I said u win and i lost now tell me the age of Saul me the age of Saul when he became king



1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was [b]--- years old [/b]when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there!



New Heart English Bible
Saul was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

compton11:
I said u win and i lost now tell me the age of Saul me the age of Saul when he became king

You win doesn't make any sense: it's another worded Taqqiyya. It's not even about winning, it is about the question

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?
3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

TenQ:

You win doesn't make any sense: it's another worded Taqqiyya. It's not even about winning, it is about the question

Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

it is so pathetic how u are still ignoring Saul age even after I told u u won,ain't u believe in Bible again?

If ain't scared,why can u just me the age?

compton11:
it is so pathetic how u are still ignoring Saul age even after I told u u won,ain't u believe in Bible again?

If ain't scared,why can u just me the age?

Because you have not equivocally answered my questions. I accused the Islamic narratives because I needed answers

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

TenQ:

Because you have not equivocally answered my questions. I accused the Islamic narratives because I needed answers

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

About all u talking about,I've told you to bring those Quran and snap it with your camera to show us the different there.


How old was Saul?

compton11:
About all u talking about,I've told you to bring those Quran and snap it with your camera to show us the different there.


How old was Saul?

Muslims with DECEPTION like their Deity! If only you can just answer these three questions and I'll answer your own question.

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

TenQ:

Muslims with DECEPTION like their Deity! If only you can just answer these three questions and I'll answer your own question.

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

chai Christians and their deception


I've told u I agreed with u but still saying the same thing cos u don't want to tell me the age of Saul when he became King

compton11:
chai Christians and their deception


I've told u I agreed with u but still saying the same thing cos u don't want to tell me the age of Saul when he became King

I asked you to answer 3 questions NOT to agree with the questions

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

TenQ:


I asked you to answer 3 questions NOT to agree with the questions

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

u won,ok?


Now what was the age of Saul when he became king?

compton11:
u won,ok?


Now what was the age of Saul when he became king?

The questions is not about winning. The questions is for you to respond to each one.

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

TenQ:

The questions is not about winning. The questions is for you to respond to each one.

if it is answer u wamt, then I will answer u now and if u refuse to answer why I've been asking u after I told u u won,then woe to hypocrites.

TenQ:

1. Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!

it is not false,the different between those version are the way they are being pronounced and wrote or something the subtitle of synonym words.

For example
مالك and ملك
عند and عمود

And so on.

TenQ:


2. If the Quran is perfectly preserved even to diacritical marks (unlike the bible with KJV, NIV, NWT etc), why is the Quran from Uthman different from that from Ubayy bin Kab?

Kindly show the us the Quran of kab and Usman u talking about,I meant the manuscript.

TenQ:

3. Which of these two qurans is the exact words of Allah?

hafs,warsh are all words of Allah with just different narration and recitation.

Now I've answer, answer my own now



How old was Saul when he became king?



1SAMUEL 13:1

New International Version

Saul was thirty years [/b]old when he became king, and he reigned over Israel forty- two years.


[b]American Standard Version
Saul was forty years old when he began to reign; and when he had reigned two years over Israel,



JPS Tanakh 1917
Saul was [b]--- years old [/b]when he began to reign; and two years he reigned over Israel.

This tanakh version even put nil years old there!



New Heart English Bible
Saul was ? years old when he began to reign; and he reigned forty years over Israel.

compton11:
if it is answer u wamt, then I will answer u now and if u refuse to answer why I've been asking u after I told u u won,then woe to hypocrites.

it is not false,the different between those version are the way they are being pronounced and wrote or something the subtitle of synonym words.

For example
مالك and ملك
عند and عمود

And so on.

I asked about Qurans having Surah 115 and Surah 116. I even posted the 2 surahs.
And what you are saying is that the difference is the pronunciation!?

You are lying again!

Let me help you with 51 differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an. I hope you will read them and be convinced beyond reasonable doubt.

http://muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=64

51 differences in MEANINGS!?

compton11:


Kindly show the us the Quran of kab and Usman u talking about,I meant the manuscript.

Check my original post, I attached Surah 115 and Surah 116. If you are confused after this, Google is your friend.

compton11:

hafs,warsh are all words of Allah with just different narration and recitation.

You forget that the Qur'an was dictated and not translated yet you call it different narration.

What happened to the WORD for WORD, DOT for DOT narratives by you Muslims?

Let me show you just two differences from one single chapter of the Warsh and Hafs Quran

Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:19
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ

Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:251
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
Google is your Friend my dear

compton11:

Now I've answer, answer my own now

You have NOT answered my question!

compton11:


How old was Saul when he became king?
.

No one know the exact age of Saul when he became king because from the oldest manuscript, omitted letter(s) prevent latter scribes from knowing whether Saul was 32, 42 or 52 years.

I repeat, no one knows the exact Age of Saul when he became king. However, we know he had a Son Jonathan who was about David's age. David was a teenager at that time (and not old enough to join the army)

TenQ:

I asked about Qurans having Surah 115 and Surah 116. I even posted the 2 surahs.
And what you are saying is that the difference is the pronunciation!?

You are lying again!

and I told u bring and out version of the two s d snap it with your phone camera to confirm.

TenQ:

Let me help you with 51 differences between the Warsh and the Hafs Qur'an. I hope you will read them and be convinced beyond reasonable doubt.

http://muslimprophets.com/article.php?aid=64

51 differences in MEANINGS!?



Check my original post, I attached Surah 115 and Surah 116. If you are confused after this, Google is your friend.

anybody can put edited stuff on Google,that is why I told you to look for the Quran in real life.

TenQ:

You forget that the Qur'an was dictated and not translated yet you call it different narration.

I mean different narration by spelling.

TenQ:

What happened to the WORD for WORD, DOT for DOT narratives by you Muslims?

what that mean?

advocatejare:

Let me show you just two differences from one single chapter of the Warsh and Hafs Quran

ok

TenQ:

Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:19
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ

oga that text is not in surah 2:19,so where did u see what u are writing?

TenQ:


Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Surah 2:251
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
Google is your Friend

u wrote the same text,so?

TenQ:

You have NOT answered my question!

and what is the difference?


Or did u see where 6 is called 2 in another version?

TenQ:

No one know the exact age of Saul when he became king because from the oldest manuscript, omitted letter(s) prevent latter scribes from knowing whether Saul was 32, 42 or 52 years.

I repeat, no one knows the exact Age of Saul when he became king. However, we know he had a Son Jonathan who was about David's age. David was a teenager at that time (and not old enough to join the army)

and you got the nerve to talk about Koram while u haven't solve Bible misery!

So that means those version that wrote different things are rubbish and shouldn't be relied on

Oga pls, the verse u are posting below, where did u see it and where did u see the name of the chapter cos those chapters ain't In the Quran

compton11:
and I told u bring and out version of the two s d snap it with your phone camera to confirm.

Extremely weak argument.
Even your Islamic scholars are not denying it

compton11:

anybody can put edited stuff on Google,that is why I told you to look for the Quran in real life.

Conscience will not allow you to read it and confirm. A Muslim is one who says:
Don't confuse me with the truth, I have made up my mind!

compton11:

I mean different narration by spelling.
what that mean?
ok
oga that text is not in surah 2:19,so where did u see what u are writing?
u wrote the same text,so?
and what is the difference?
Or did u see where 6 is called 2 in another version?

All these ERRORS are just from Surah2!
1. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:251
وَلَوْلا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ
2. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:119
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ
3. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:58
نَّغْفِرْ
يُغْفَرْ
4. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2: 85
تَعْمَلُونَ
يَعْمَلُونَ

Google is your friend my dear. You can use Google translate to bust your lies of Difference of INTONATIONS .
Should difference in INTONATIONS change meanings?


This is just between Hafs Qur'an and Warsh Qur'an.

Stop the lies!
Your intonation lies does not sell

compton11:

and you got the nerve to talk about Koram while u haven't solve Bible misery!

So that means those version that wrote different things are rubbish and shouldn't be relied on

You CLAIM that the Qur'an is the Verbatim words of Allah! (A big Lie)
Christians did not claim so with the bible.

You claim the Qur'an has not one error(how can the book of Allah have errors), now we show you Mathematical, Historical and Scientific errors

You claim their is only one Qur'an: now we show you at least 30 different Arabic Qur'an.

Allah if he is God Almighty should not commit errors: we found out that Muslims Allah is as ignorant as the 16th century Arabs.

This gives me the right to challenge the Qur'an!

TenQ:


Extremely weak argument.
Even your Islamic scholars are not denying it

show me the Islamic scholars that Said two ayah is missing from hafs version but it is in warsh.

TenQ:

Conscience will not allow you to read it and confirm. A Muslim is one who says:
Don't confuse me with the truth, I have made up my mind!

like the fake Koran that doesn't u out in the post?

TenQ:

All these ERRORS are just from Surah2!

Instead of u to accept u made mistake by saying surah 2 v 9 ,still u are acting arrogant.

TenQ:

1. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:251
وَلَوْلا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ

first is dafhu and second is darahu

Same meaning, different pronouncation!

Both means support,so what are insinuating?

TenQ:

2. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:119
وَلا تُسْأَلُ
ولا تَسْئَلْ

Mr man,the second one is wrong, check it well,it say (تسٰئل)the small little dot like one is not in your own.

So the first Mean was la tasalu and the second means wa la tasa'alu.

Some meaning, different pronouncation.

U won't be asked or u won't be called account

TenQ:

3. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:58
نَّغْفِرْ
يُغْفَرْ

bro how can I confirm the authenticity of this?

Where did u get it?

TenQ:

4. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2: 85
تَعْمَلُونَ
يَعْمَلُونَ

where did u see this too but we'll
The first is tamaluna and second is yamaluna which is the same meaning.

What they are doing.

TenQ:

Google is your friend my dear. You can use Google translate to bust your lies of Difference of INTONATIONS .

nigga I don't need Google translate for what I learned for 6 years.

TenQ:


Should difference in INTONATIONS change meanings?

and which meaning did it change?

TenQ:

This is just between Hafs Qur'an and Warsh Qur'an.

Stop the lies!
Your intonation lies does not sell

That is your own cup of tea,your Google search won't help u.

TenQ:

You CLAIM that the Qur'an is the Verbatim words of Allah! (A big Lie)
Christians did not claim so with the bible.

You claim the Qur'an has not one error(how can the book of Allah have errors), now we show you Mathematical, Historical and Scientific errors

You claim their is only one Qur'an: now we show you at least 30 different Arabic Qur'an.

Allah if he is God Almighty should not commit errors: we found out that Muslims Allah is as ignorant as the 16th century Arabs.

This gives me the right to challenge the Qur'an!

U are a fuckin liar,y'all always telling us Bible is from God and Quran is satanic.


All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17


I ask u the age of Saul,u were trembling and that is the book u believe that will take u to heaven.

What a joke

TenQ:

You have not answered my questions. Anyways,
They use it exactly as you Nigerian Muslims use Surah Al-Fathia by Syrian Muslims. For me because it was from Ubayy bin Kab is extremely important.

Do you now agree that the standard Islamic Narrative about the Qur'an being perfectly preserved word for words up to diacritical marks is FALSE!


BTW, I attached the two surahs in my original post

Apart from the Mushaf of Ubayy bin Kabb can this be found in any other Islamic source?

Ok.
Most Islamic Scholars and Commentators are in agreement that the two surahs found in the compilation of Ubayy were never part of the Qur'an rather, they were du'ai qunut recited during prayers, especially the fajr prayer.
Ubayy compilation was not a Qur'an. It was for his personal use only.

You cannot learn Islam from those christian anti-Islam websites. They will only deepen you in your abyss. That is their objective.

You should get in touch with a competent Islamic Scholar if you are truly interested in learning Islam. You can definitely get one around you.

mhmsadyq:


Apart from the Mushaf of Ubayy bin Kabb can this be found in any other Islamic source?

Ok.
Most Islamic Scholars and Commentators are in agreement that the two surahs found in the compilation of Ubayy were never part of the Qur'an rather, they were du'ai qunut recited during prayers, especially the fajr prayer.
Ubayy compilation was not a Qur'an. It was for his personal use only.

You cannot learn Islam from those christian anti-Islam websites. They will only deepen you in your abyss. That is their objective.

You should get in touch with a competent Islamic Scholar if you are truly interested in learning Islam. You can definitely get one around you.

My brother,
I wish you use EXACTLY the same standard to judge yourself as you use to judge others.
1. Just as the Catholic bible has extra books than the standard bible, we have found that some Qurans have extra TWO Surahs.
The arguments is NOT important as EVERYONE will have his arguments
2. The standard Islamic Narrative of the Qur'an perfectly preserved (word for word, dot for dot) thus falls apart in that it seems that even though Uthman TRIED to standardise the Qur'an, he did not fully succeed.
3. The bad thing was that the Islamic scholars were well aware of these documents differences in the Qur'an but deliberately kept it to sell a FALSE narrative to BOTH Muslims and Christians. That was a Taqqiyya in the Name of Allah!?
4. The NEW narratives of differences in INTONATIONS or DIALECTS between especially the Warsh Qur'an and the Hafs Qur'an is also a DECEPTION. I can give you a few examples if you care!

What else has been coloured by the standard Islamic Narratives?

compton11:
show me the Islamic scholars that Said two ayah is missing from hafs version but it is in warsh.

You are manufacturing quotes again for me 'cause I never said this to you.

compton11:

like the fake Koran that doesn't u out in the post?

Instead of u to accept u made mistake by saying surah 2 v 9 ,still u are acting arrogant.


first is dafhu and second is darahu

Same meaning, different pronouncation!

Both means support,so what are insinuating?


Mr man,the second one is wrong, check it well,it say (تسٰئل)the small little dot like one is not in your own.

So the first Mean was la tasalu and the second means wa la tasa'alu.

Some meaning, different pronouncation.

U won't be asked or u won't be called account


bro how can I confirm the authenticity of this?

Where did u get it?

where did u see this too but we'll
The first is tamaluna and second is yamaluna which is the same meaning.

What they are doing.

nigga I don't need Google translate for what I learned for 6 years.

and which meaning did it change?



That is your own cup of tea,your Google search won't help u.

Google is your friend. Let me use it to deflate your falsehood or otherwise.

1. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:251
وَلَوْلا دَفْعُ اللَّهِ = And had it not been for God's defense,
وَلَوْلا دِفٰعُ اللَّهِ = And if it wasn't for God's defense

Close meaning: different Words: Which exact one was spoken by Allah

2. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:119
وَلا تُسْأَلُ = and don't ask
ولا تَسْئَلْ = and don't ask

You were correct here. Different pronunciation but same words


3. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2:58
نَّغْفِرْ = Forgive
يُغْفَرْ = be forgiven

Two different words leading to two different meanings!

4. Please Pronounce and Translate these two Phrases in Qur'an 2: 85
تَعْمَلُونَ = you do
يَعْمَلُونَ =Working

Two different words leading to two different meanings.


What exactly did Jubril dictate to Mohammed?

compton11:

U are a fuckin liar,y'all always telling us Bible is from God and Quran is satanic.


All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:16-17


I ask u the age of Saul,u were trembling and that is the book u believe that will take u to heaven.

What a joke

Christians don't lie about the bible. The bible is writing by human beings not God in their own unique styles and grammar by the inspiration and not dictation of God.

Islam has claimed the opposite in ignorance that is haunting Muslims now. The Qur'an is the VERBATIM words of Allah which is perfectly preserved word for words, dot for dot.

If lies go on for 20 years in one single day, the truth will catch up with it.