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Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by jbreezy: 7:26am On Jun 15, 2022
It has become a common thing nowadays to advise people who wish to learn programming to start from HTML and CSS. It is a bad advice. 70% of the people I know that started this way quitted programming their second week into Javascript, after a lot of time learning HTML and CSS. Well, like 15% actually quitted while learning CSS. I think the best way to start learning programming is to begin from a real programing language. There are lots of beginner-friendly languages to start learning with. I started with python , and even though I've not used it for my works other than dsa, the knowledge gained while learning python really helped me to grasp the other things I learnt after easily. Of course easily wasn't easily, but at least, the toughness was easier to contain.
So people who are trying to switch career into programming world should best be informed to start with a programming language, favorably Javascript or Python, grab the basics and from there, their career path will start getting revealed to them.

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Nobody: 8:12am On Jun 15, 2022
jbreezy:
It has become a common thing nowadays to advise people who wish to learn programming to start from HTML and CSS. It is a bad advice. 70% of the people I know that started this way quitted programming their second week into Javascript, after a lot of time learning HTML and CSS. Well, like 15% actually quitted while learning CSS. I think the best way to start learning programming is to begin from a real programing language. There are lots of beginner-friendly languages to start learning with. I started with python , and even though I've not used it for my works other than dsa, the knowledge gained while learning python really helped me to grab the other things I learnt after easily. Of course easily wasn't easily, but at least, the toughness was easier to contain.
So people who are trying to switch career into programming world should best be informed to start with a programming language, favorably Javascript or Python, grab the basics and from there, their career path will start getting revealed to them.

You cant start teaching a newbie to program with javascript what are you saying?..its too technical...people start teaching with html and css because it's the building block of web design...javascript is to add functions to your web design...you dont start with more technical parts that is so wrong...if you dont know theres what they call backend of a website....you have to be taught the basics of a website frontend website before moving to backend development which is where python comes in.

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by jbreezy: 9:35am On Jun 15, 2022
sollolucci77:


You cant start teaching a newbie to program with javascript what are you saying?..its too technical...people start teaching with html and css because it's the building block of web design...javascript is to add functions to your web design...you dont start with more technical parts that is so wrong...if you dont know theres what they call backend of a website....you have to be taught the basics of a website frontend website before moving to backend development which is where python comes in.
But programming is not all about frontend and backend

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Nobody: 9:46am On Jun 15, 2022
jbreezy:
But programming is not all about frontend and backend

Agreed...but you cant just teach a newbie js just like that...its too technical...that's why they start with pseudo codes first

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by julybaba(m): 10:05am On Jun 15, 2022
You can't build something tangible on nothing.
HTML , CSS , JS & PHP are the foundation of web programming.

Just as Java is the foundation of mobile programming.
However, you don't need to learn every language to "communicate". The ultimate goal is to achieve your result.
Also, there are different ways of getting things done.

Nonetheless, if you have a good grasp of this foundational languages, you won't fret when it's time to upgrade your knowledge with a new language.

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Nobody: 11:51am On Jun 15, 2022
It depends.

If you're going into web development then that's the right path to follow.

It's like you saying one shouldn't start from. JSS1 BEFORE heading to SS3.

If you're learning programming for something else other than web development then you can start with a real programming language instead mark-up or styling language

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Deicide: 11:57am On Jun 15, 2022
If they want to go into web design then yes!

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by ichidodo: 2:48pm On Jun 15, 2022
Yeah, its super f**ked up putting a newbie into those rabbit holes instead of letting them into the fun stuff offered by python and Java..

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by SimeonOTC(m): 4:01pm On Jun 15, 2022
jbreezy:
It has become a common thing nowadays to advise people who wish to learn programming to start from HTML and CSS. It is a bad advice. 70% of the people I know that started this way quitted programming their second week into Javascript, after a lot of time learning HTML and CSS. Well, like 15% actually quitted while learning CSS. I think the best way to start learning programming is to begin from a real programing language. There are lots of beginner-friendly languages to start learning with. I started with python , and even though I've not used it for my works other than dsa, the knowledge gained while learning python really helped me to grasp the other things I learnt after easily. Of course easily wasn't easily, but at least, the toughness was easier to contain.
So people who are trying to switch career into programming world should best be informed to start with a programming language, favorably Javascript or Python, grab the basics and from there, their career path will start getting revealed to them.

Lol..bro, i really don't think you know what JavaScript isgrin because I actually don't know for instance, how you are going to apply Javascript DOM and EVENT if you don't know HTML and CSS..

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by jbreezy: 4:31pm On Jun 15, 2022
SimeonOTC:


Lol..bro, i really don't think you know what JavaScript isgrin because I actually don't know for instance, how you are going to apply Javascript DOM and EVENT if you don't know HTML and CSS..
Lol..na people like you dey think sey javascript is specifically built to tweak the DOM
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by SimeonOTC(m): 4:44pm On Jun 15, 2022
jbreezy:
Lol..na people like you dey think sey javascript is specifically built to tweak the DOM

bro, I used that as an example. one can actually learn j.s first, but tell yourself the truth, how u wan take start to learn or apply most j.s course wey require html and css knowledge? wetti be the definition and function of JavaScript self without webpage? those wey start to j.s first go still give up if them wan give up.

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Nobody: 5:12pm On Jun 15, 2022
jbreezy:
It has become a common thing nowadays to advise people who wish to learn programming to start from HTML and CSS. It is a bad advice. 70% of the people I know that started this way quitted programming their second week into Javascript, after a lot of time learning HTML and CSS.

- Did you also ask those 70% what they requested for at the beginning?
- Did they say they want to learn web development or programming?

Maybe you should ask them, because if you type Learning Introduction to programming on Google, It is NOT HTML and CSS that would show up.
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by LikeAking: 5:13pm On Jun 15, 2022
Op this ya idea sef.

Every house get foundation.
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by jbreezy: 5:42pm On Jun 15, 2022
LikeAking:
Op this ya idea sef.

Every house get foundation.
Every foundation must be laid on html and css?? What of people who want to dive into other programming career asides web dev?

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by jbreezy: 5:44pm On Jun 15, 2022
truthsayer009:


- Did you also ask those 70% what they requested for at the beginning?
- Did they say they want to learn web development or programming?

Maybe you should ask them, because if you type Learning Introduction to programming on Google, It is NOT HTML and CSS that would show up.
Now yu are getting where I'm aiming at
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by bet9ja(m): 7:52am On Jun 17, 2022
jbreezy:
It has become a common thing nowadays to advise people who wish to learn programming to start from HTML and CSS. It is a bad advice. 70% of the people I know that started this way quitted programming their second week into Javascript, after a lot of time learning HTML and CSS. Well, like 15% actually quitted while learning CSS. I think the best way to start learning programming is to begin from a real programing language. There are lots of beginner-friendly languages to start learning with. I started with python , and even though I've not used it for my works other than dsa, the knowledge gained while learning python really helped me to grasp the other things I learnt after easily. Of course easily wasn't easily, but at least, the toughness was easier to contain.
Your submission is wrong. Programming isn't MMM. I assume the 70% are part of the majority that want to start making money asap but realize that they need to study their way up. Programming requires dedication and perseverance. My baby codder who started the journey last year November has been working 2 jobs since April. If you cannot learn continuously, then programming is not for you.
Another hindrance could be mentorship. It is very easy for anyone without a mentor to failout of programming. Hence I always advise people to look for a mentor when starting the journey. This could be a free or paid mentorship. But it worth it.

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Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by mentro: 7:08pm On Jun 17, 2022
bet9ja:

Your submission is wrong. Programming isn't MMM. I assume the 70% are part of the majority that want to start making money asap but realize that they need to study their way up. Programming requires dedication and perseverance. My baby codder who started the journey last year November has been working 2 jobs since April. If you cannot learn continuously, then programming is not for you.
Another hindrance could be mentorship. It is very easy for anyone without a mentor to failout of programming. Hence I always advise people to look for a mentor when starting the journey. This could be a free or paid mentorship. But it worth it.
Wow, two jobs? How did the person get two jobs very fast? Applying or connections?
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Playermayweda(m): 8:49pm On Jun 17, 2022
mentro:

Wow, two jobs? How did the person get two jobs very fast? Applying or connections?

Be like say na soap the guy use
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by InfinityFabric: 5:46pm On Jun 18, 2022
Maybe they should learn about how computer works first. Then they can go programming from there.
Re: Stop Advising People To Start Learning Programming With HTML And CSS by Arrayman: 10:24pm On Jun 18, 2022
Programming has various sub branches, if the person intends to develop for the web as a platform then css and html is a must bit if going into other branches or platforms then html and css are not needed.

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