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Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by egift(m): 11:38pm On Jul 22, 2011
As the US government struggle to negotiate and resolve the best proportion of revenue and debt (borrowing) limit, I keep wondering if Nigeria have such safety net in place.

Or do we just print, borrow, embezzle revenues and spend on behalf of our grand children yet unborn?
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by AjanleKoko: 11:44pm On Jul 22, 2011
^^
Good question.
These days, a lot of people talk about it, but no one seems to know what to do about it grin
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by GAR3TH(m): 12:04am On Jul 23, 2011
Yes, Nigeria does have a debt Limit.

Nigeria doesn't borrow money as much as other countries such as the U.S.A. [Nigeria public debt $37billion - U.S.A.$14trillion]

And Nigeria is in the position where it could easily pay back its debt.

Nigeria most likely has debt to increase its credit score or Credit History so it can receive loans in the future with lower interest rates, IDK but its the most likely reason.


[url]http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/cbn-lift-debt-limit-foreign-investors
[/url]
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/business/12974-nigeria-comfortable-with-37b-debt-says-dmo.html
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by egift(m): 12:12am On Jul 23, 2011
GAR3TH:

Yes, Nigeria does have a debt Limit.

Nigeria doesn't borrow money as much as other countries such as the U.S.A. [Nigeria public debt $37billion - U.S.A.$14trillion]

And Nigeria is in the position where it could easily pay back its debt.

Nigeria most likely has debt to increase its credit score or Credit History so it can receive loans in the future with lower interest rates, IDK but its the most likely reason.


[url]http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/cbn-lift-debt-limit-foreign-investors
[/url]
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/business/12974-nigeria-comfortable-with-37b-debt-says-dmo.html



^^ Good. So we just print, borrow, embezzle revenues and spend on behalf of our grand children yet unborn?
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by ektbear: 12:15am On Jul 23, 2011
Sanusi supposedly just printed more money for the bank bailout from a few years ago.

So I dunno if there are actually limits.
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by DisGuy: 12:20am On Jul 23, 2011
We do, i normally read something along the lines of 'recommended threshold' or GDP to debt ratio

something like that and since we have a debt office i'm sure they definitely be working with some figures in mind
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by DisGuy: 12:26am On Jul 23, 2011
THE Director-General, Debt Management Office (DMO), Dr. Abraham Nwankwo, yesterday disclosed that Nigeria’s total debt comprising external and domestic debt portfolio stands at $37 billion.

Nwankwo, who briefed journalists in Abuja, said the government and the DMO were "very comfortable and committed to seeing that there is value for money not only for borrowed funds, but also oil revenue.

He added that Nigeria’s current debt profile is very healthy and sustainable. "As at the end of June 2011, our debt-Gross Domestic Product ratio still hovers around 19 per cent, which is much below the 40 per cent threshold," he stated.

http://www.thenationonlineng.net/2011/index.php/business/12974-nigeria-comfortable-with-37b-debt-says-dmo.html

he is a southerner n non Muslim with a phd- so i'm guessing that adds to the Nairaland credibility test
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by Sunofgod(m): 12:36am On Jul 23, 2011
Do We Have Ceiling Or Limit Nigeria

Yeah - its like 'infinity naira'
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by wesley80(m): 12:42am On Jul 23, 2011
lol, You meant ekt_bear, Katsumoto and co's threshold? BTW, including whether his degrees were obtained overseas wld lift him high above that all important threshold.

Dis Guy:


he is a southerner n non Muslim with a phd- so i'm guessing that adds to the Nairaland credibility test
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by DisGuy: 12:45am On Jul 23, 2011
wesley80:

lol, You meant ekt_bear, Katsumoto and co's threshold? BTW, including whether his degrees were obtained overseas wld lift him high above that all important threshold.


i was just searching for that!! lol i think theres a first class there somewhere

Dr. Nwankwo holds a B.Sc. Economics, M.Sc. Economics and Ph. D. Economics from the University of Nigeria, Nsukka.
same as soludo did all his course at one university, I always feel somehow about this, you get to know all the professors, familiarity pass mark
I thin Soludo's dad worked at the uni too!


Not taking anything away from him, he's brilliant!
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by ektbear: 12:48am On Jul 23, 2011
hehe grin
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by wesley80(m): 12:55am On Jul 23, 2011
^^^ Ok, i guess now that we've established there's a legitimate case we can present it before the high court of NL's economic judges. I wonder who'll preside today. Oya ekt_bear over to you. grin
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by ektbear: 1:02am On Jul 23, 2011
Lol, I'm just a layman. I read a lot, but definitely no expert. Katsumoto, manny4life and Ibime seem to do this sort of stuff for a living, though.

@OP, the sovereign wealth fund recently started by Aganga is a good example of saving for future generations. I don't know the details of how much exactly of the oil wealth is saved into it, though.
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by egift(m): 6:08am On Jul 23, 2011
ekt_bear:

@OP, the sovereign wealth fund recently started by Aganga is a good example of saving for future generations. I don't know the details of how much exactly of the oil wealth is saved into it, though.

Is the same "sovereign wealth fund" that was to replace the Excess Crude Account? The government said the Excess Crude Account is illegal (not backed by any law), but they still have it around and keep using it = Do that not make a lot of things illegal?

How about the embezzlement part, and limit on that part?
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by hercules07: 8:54am On Jul 23, 2011
The question I have is if $37 billion is a good debt, why did we rush to pay when we had about $32billion? Sanusi just needs to do his Phd at ABU and he will be respected, he might need to change religion as well (but he has three wives sha).
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by DisGuy: 6:49pm On Jul 23, 2011
^^I think the previous debts were just rolling debts, as in 'we' didnt know where they came from and they were largely due to missed payments or rolling interests, so it was just getting bigger and bigger,

the current debt $37B is made up largely of local debts, contractors etc etc and they are 'functioning' not bad debt

that's my own Amala and Ewedu explanation, I ddint attend a southern university and certainly didnt study economics or any financial course  cool
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by paddylo1(m): 1:31pm On Jul 24, 2011
hercules07:

The question I have is if $37 billion is a good debt, why did we rush to pay when we had about $32billion? Sanusi just needs to do his Phd at ABU and he will be respected, he might need to change religion as well (but he has three wives sha).

A coupla reasons

1) The old $32 Billion debt was mostly(80%) foreign or external debt. . This new debt is mostly domestic debt
It makes a lot of sense to own debt in your own local currency,that way u can easily repay and make use of Inflation or growth to make the debt smaller as time goes by

2) Back then in 2003 our GDP was too small and debt too large,so debt to GDP ratios was approaching 80% and was unsustainable
right now our GDP has grown four folds since then from $50billion to over$250 Billion,so debt to GDP ratios today are much more manageable at 19%

Finallyto the person asking the question,yes we have a debt limit,which is 40% of GDP as mentioned by the DMO chairman
u have to focus on the Debt to GDP ratios not the absolute dollar figures,which is pretty much meaningless when viewed out of context
Re: Do We Have Debt Ceiling Or Limit In Nigeria by hercules07: 6:04pm On Jul 24, 2011
Thanks for the response @paddy and Dis guy.
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