Zetra7:
The level of illiteracy is really high in this country.

Not a fan of the senator but his travail in the UK has nothing to do with organ harvesting which is completely legal..


The question is , does he have a willing donor?


Is the donor underaged?


This will have to be established by the court and very complicated as the passport already have a stand...

Zetra7:
The level of illiteracy is really high in this country.

Not a fan of the senator but his travail in the UK has nothing to do with organ harvesting which is completely legal..


The question is , does he have a willing donor?


Is the donor underaged?


This will have to be established by the court and very complicated as the passport already have a stand...

Mickykarim:


The problem with most of us borders on IGNORANCE. The trip was documented.

IT WAS NOT AN ILLEGAL DEALINGS. THE ENTIRE EPISODE WAS DOCUMENTED IN THIS LETTER, HE SENT TO THE UK EMBASSY FOR THE BOY''S TRIP TO ENGLAND.

He stated in the letter that the boy was going to the UK as a DONOR in a heart transplant for his beleagued daughter. And, not any kind of organ HARVESTING either.

https://www.nairaland.com/7193631/parenthood-tears-desperation

I HAD EARLIER SUSPECTED THAT THE PERCEIVED "INNOCENT" BOY WAS PART OF A LARGER RING OF CONSPIRACY WITH AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE UNKNOWN TO THE Ekweremadus.

The conspiratorial nefarious group with the culpable boy must be investigated and with his co conspirators should be made to face the law.

WITH A GOOD DEFENSE TEAM. THE LETTER ABSOLVES HIM FROM THE ALLEGATION OF ORGAN HARVESTING AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND OR BOTH.

My only aspersion for the Ekweremadus is the simple fact that they cannot let go or REFUSED to let go.

FERNANDEZISBACK:
You folks don't read or what..they clearly said the lil boy was underage and it was without his consent...what are you still talking about?


He ain't of age..fake passport or something..that nonsense is called Modern slavery..

Harvesting organs from still living people is where you start to see it getting iffy..if they volunteer their organs willingly and aren’t killed by the procedure then it’s fine..was that what took place?

It should be done only with consent...That’s why you have to volunteer to be an organ donor rather than some buff guys from the hospital holding you down and ripping out a kidney...

silvoclaira:
Get your facts right and stop reading every trash

Zetra7:
The level of illiteracy is really high in this country.

Not a fan of the senator but his travail in the UK has nothing to do with organ harvesting which is completely legal..


The question is , does he have a willing donor?


Is the donor underaged?


This will have to be established by the court and very complicated as the passport already have a stand...

Zetra7:
The level of illiteracy is really high in this country.

Not a fan of the senator but his travail in the UK has nothing to do with organ harvesting which is completely legal..


The question is , does he have a willing donor?


Is the donor underaged?


This will have to be established by the court and very complicated as the passport already have a stand...

FERNANDEZISBACK:
You folks don't read or what..they clearly said the lil boy was underage and it was without his consent...what are you still talking about?


He ain't of age..fake passport or something..that nonsense is called Modern slavery..

Harvesting organs from still living people is where you start to see it getting iffy..if they volunteer their organs willingly and aren’t killed by the procedure then it’s fine..was that what took place?

It should be done only with consent...That’s why you have to volunteer to be an organ donor rather than some buff guys from the hospital holding you down and ripping out a kidney...

Zetra7:
The level of illiteracy is really high in this country.

Not a fan of the senator but his travail in the UK has nothing to do with organ harvesting which is completely legal..


The question is , does he have a willing donor?


Is the donor underaged?


This will have to be established by the court and very complicated as the passport already have a stand...

obailala:
Where did you dig out that info from that the boy didnt consent to being a donor?

Who told you the plan is to kill the boy or that procedure was going to kill the boy? Where did the impression come from that they planned to press him down in a clinic and rip out his kidneys? If they wanted to do that obviously they wouldn't d be foolish enough to go to London for it.

Only crime committed in this case is that the boy is 15 and not 21 as alleged. The boy (and probably his family) clearly and certainly consented to being an organ in exchange for a large sum of money and probably a better life in the UK. Millions of Nigerians would WILLINGLY jump on that opportunity.

obailala:
Where did you dig out that info from that the boy didnt consent to being a donor?

Who told you the plan is to kill the boy or that procedure was going to kill the boy? Where did the impression come from that they planned to press him down in a clinic and rip out his kidneys? If they wanted to do that obviously they wouldn't d be foolish enough to go to London for it.

The boy (and probably his family) clearly and certainly consented to being an organ donor in exchange for a large sum of money and probably a better life in the UK. Millions of Nigerians, including many condemning here on Nairaland, would WILLINGLY jump on that opportunity

The only crime committed in this case is that the boy is 15 and not 21 as alleged, and with a good legal defence team, the Ekweremadus can untangle themselves from this case by claiming they didnt know the boy was a minor with forged documents

GloriousGbola:


do you understand the meaning of the term exploitation of the vulnerable?

hope you do not have one underaged household in your house, her childhood wasting w=away while she attends to your own kids. they also call that 'helping' and claim it is 'voluntary'.

the same way we read everyday of underage girls being married off to older men who fund their education. why do the girls suddenly opt out down the line?

look at the picture of the boy who 'willingly' agreed to 'donate' his kidney. does the guy look as if he has enough education or exposure to even know what a kidney is or how important it is?

the problem of so many nigerians - is that they think this mentality works in a civilised society

GloriousGbola:


do you understand te meaning of teh word exploitation of teh vulnerable?

hope you do not have one underaged household in your house, her childhood wasting w=away while she attends to your own kids. they also call that 'helping' and claim it is 'voluntary.

obailala:
Like I said, millions of Nigerians would WILLINGLY jump on the opportunity, including thousands condemning here on Nairaland. That's a direct consequence of the dire economic situation we face in Nigeria. I can bet my last dime (and even my left kidney) that the boy and his family WILLINGLY consented to the boy being an organ donor in exchange for a life changing sum of money.

GloriousGbola:


do you understand the meaning of the term exploitation of the vulnerable?

hope you do not have one underaged household in your house, her childhood wasting w=away while she attends to your own kids. they also call that 'helping' and claim it is 'voluntary'.

the same way we read everyday of underage girls being married off to older men who fund their education. why do the girls suddenly opt out down the line?

look at the picture of the boy who 'willingly' agreed to 'donate' his kidney. does the guy look as if he has enough education or exposure to even know what a kidney is or how important it is?

the problem of so many nigerians - is that they think this mentality works in a civilised society

GloriousGbola:


you still do not understand

it is Exploitation

i gave local examples , but you are still bent on defending this

would YOU take money to donate your kidney? why not?
that is what exploitation is

FERNANDEZISBACK:

And where did I say they was gonna kill the boy?
And how did you come about the conclusion that the parent agreed to it..even if they did agree..how about the child..did he give consent?

You folks just open your wide mouth to vomit nonsense without understanding nothing..below is a link to a nigeria media
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/alleged-organ-trafficking-ekweremadu-wife-risk-long-jail-term-if-convicted/%3famp

obailala:
Like I said and will say again, I was simply speaking from the angle of the law. I was defending anything so please hold your peace.

With the level of poverty in Nigeria, exploitation is already a culture. In addition to the examples you gave, everyday occurrences like using a domestic staff almost as a slave and paying them peanuts still fall under the same issue of exploitation. But does that really make it illegal? NO.

Again, I was just speaking from the legal point of view, not the moral point of view.

obailala:
Where did you dig out that info from that the boy didnt consent to being a donor?

Who told you the plan is to kill the boy or that procedure was going to kill the boy? Where did the impression come from that they planned to press him down in a clinic and rip out his kidneys? If they wanted to do that obviously they wouldn't d be foolish enough to go to London for it.

The boy (and probably his family) clearly and certainly consented to being an organ donor in exchange for a large sum of money and probably a better life in the UK. Millions of Nigerians, including many condemning here on Nairaland, would WILLINGLY jump on that opportunity

The only crime committed in this case is that the boy is 15 and not 21 as alleged, and with a good legal defence team, the Ekweremadus can untangle themselves from this case by claiming they didnt know the boy was a minor with forged documents

GloriousGbola:


you see what I said?

stop taking a nigerian mentality

this is why we have child traffikking laws, even if tehy are not fully implemented

go and google nigerians convicted of slavery in the uk

domestic help is a luxury abroad, so you find that some 'smart' nigerians carry persons to be househelps
they get caught and slapped with slavery charges

stop defending what is wrong because of 'poverty' and so called 'legality'

this is exactly what got ekeremadu in trouble. going to a civilised nation with a third world, the poor are fodder for me mentality

jmoore:



An epitome of illiteracy attacking others.


It is organ trafficking!!!


He's being charged for organ trafficking which is wrong.

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PREJUDICE!




Good defense team in Nigeria or UK? A letter is a proof? You guys are funny. UK is not Nigeria. He will plead guilty in UK in order to have his sentence reduced.

obailala:
Repeatedly saying I'm 'defending' Ekweremadu is now beginning to piss me off. Do you have an issue with comprehension? I was simply explaining from the legal viewpoint.

The Op of this thread stated that organ donation is legal in the UK; I simply concurred to that. People donate organs to friends, family members, loved ones etc. Also, some people donate organs for financial rewards. Whike it may be immoral, there's nothing illegal about that, except the donor (as in this case) is a minor not old enough to consent.

On your other example regarding domestic slavery, it's only legally regarded as a crime if the victim isnt being remunerated up to the minimum legal level and if some form of duress (e.g. using blackmail) is involved to force the person to work under dehumanising conditions.

GloriousGbola:


you still do not understand

it is Exploitation

i gave local examples , but you are still bent on defending this

would YOU take money to donate your kidney? why not?
that is what exploitation is

GloriousGbola:


we should simply agree to disagrree

it is obvious you will continue to look at this issue from a nigerian lens while i am looking at it from a western lens

GloriousGbola:


we should simply agree to disagrree

it is obvious you will continue to look at this issue from a nigerian lens while i am looking at it from a western lens