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Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Joagbaje(m): 7:38am On Aug 01, 2011
3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Is God against our prosperity, whats your opinion
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Zikkyy(m): 8:14am On Aug 01, 2011
^^^ Oga Jo, what are you trying to achieve here why don't you ask God
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by njira(f): 8:31am On Aug 01, 2011
There seems to be a mindset among both The World and The Church that Chriatians should be poor. Others even go ahead to equate poverty with humility and true relationship with God. However this could not be further from the truth. God creates the world and all its treaures therein for His Children's enjoyment. Life is A great gift from God and not a burden of punishment. The Old Testament is full of wealthy people with whom God was pleased, I suggest we follow suite
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by newmi(m): 9:00am On Aug 01, 2011
Zikkyy:

why don't you ask God
sorry ask God what?
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Zikkyy(m): 9:36am On Aug 01, 2011
newmi:

sorry ask God what?

you don come smiley

Anyways if you must know, see the post from Jo below smiley

Joagbaje:

Is God against our prosperity, whats your opinion


smiley
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by newmi(m): 11:06am On Aug 01, 2011
Zikkyy:

you don come smiley

haba you no go blame me hahaha! l hope say you no vez hmmm, l simply wanted to know.
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by wetu: 11:44am On Aug 01, 2011
Joagbaje:

3 John 1:2
Beloved, I wish above all things that thou mayest prosper and be in health, even as thy soul prospereth.

Is God against our prosperity, whats your opinion

God is not against prosperity but material prosperity is not a sign of godliness neither is it a promise from God. Abraham prospered materially because he lived in the Old Testament where the temple was physical and the offerings were physical.

In the New Testament, it is very clear that the Old Testament is an example to us. Now we know that in the New Testament, God doesn't kill fornicators. God doesn't destroy His enemies, God doens't feed us manna from heaven, We don't follow a cloud by day and a fire by night.

However, not everyone understands the Old Testament and interprets it accordingly:

Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
2Co 3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.


If God wanted us to prosper materially, he would have said it in several verses but He didn't. If God wanted us to be poor, he would have said it in several verses but He didn't:

1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:7 For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1Ti 6:8 And having food and raiment let us be therewith content.

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

1Th 4:11 And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
1Th 4:12 That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.


Having lack of nothing is neither poverty nor riches, it simply means that having lack of nothing. Whether you live in a shack or a mansion, God wants you to have lack of nothing.

God certainly doesn't want you to take money from the poor under the cover of "tithes". And if you will become rich by teaching tithing, it's only because you are taking from the poor more than what God has commanded you to take:

1Co 9:14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


There's a difference between making a living from the gospel and making a killing. cool
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Zikkyy(m): 12:15pm On Aug 01, 2011
newmi:

haba you no go blame me hahaha! l hope say you no vez hmmm, l simply wanted to know.


i don't have reason to vex smiley

wetu:

There's a difference between making a living from the gospel and making a killing. cool

grin Nice
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Nobody: 4:50am On Aug 02, 2011
@op

which god was Abraham's friend? your God? funny.
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Pidzo(m): 12:46pm On Aug 02, 2011
Christians are made to believe 'what God says' depending on the interpretation of their 'Masters' eg Pastors, Reverends, Fathers, etc These masters may say accumulation of wealth is bad, but why do they drive posh cars, live in mansions, dress in designer clothes?
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by mabell: 9:44pm On Aug 02, 2011
depending on the way the wealth was acquired, its use and reason for acquisition
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Zikkyy(m): 9:54am On Aug 03, 2011
mabell:

depending on the way the wealth was acquired, its use and reason for acquisition

What are the pastors doing with their wealth? The teachings in 1 Timothy chpt 6, also applies to them you know smiley
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Image123(m): 3:30pm On Aug 03, 2011
You can be very rich and enter God's kingdom. You can also be very poor and enter God's kingdom.
You can be very rich and miss God's kingdom. You can also be very poor and miss God's kingdom.
The lesson in this truth is that a man's life does not consist in the things that he possesses. What you physically have or don't have is not a reliable measure/indicator of God been pleased with you. But we're warned to be more careful if we're rich(everyone's got to be careful btw), excess luggage can cause issues on your flight.
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by Joagbaje(m): 11:12pm On Aug 03, 2011
Image123:

You can be very rich and enter God's kingdom. You can also be very poor and enter God's kingdom.
You can be very rich and miss God's kingdom. You can also be very poor and miss God's kingdom.
The lesson in this truth is that a man's life does not consist in the things that he possesses. What you physically have or don't have is not a reliable measure/indicator of God been pleased with you.

i agree with you.

But we're warned to be more careful if we're rich(everyone's got to be careful btw), excess luggage can cause issues on your flight.

Thats the point we need to correct. christian wealth is not for personal opulent lifestyle, but rather to be a blessing to our world. sponsoring the work of evangelisation. The Gideons are able to make bibles available all over the world because some christians put their money into the work to sponsor millions of bibles. that what our wealth should be for. and not worldly lifestyle or materialism.

1 Corinthians 10:23 .
, “All things are lawful,” but not all things are helpful. “All
things are lawful,” but not all things build up. .
Re: Abraham Was Rich In Cattle,gold And Silver, Yet A Friend Of God by IdiAmin2(m): 11:17pm On Aug 03, 2011
you better read your bible and ask where the so called friend of God got is wealth from. Abraham pimped his wife sarah to the Pharoah, and the Pharoah gave abraham gold, silver , cattle and wealth while the Pharaoh was bleeping Sarah grin Abraham was a love-vendor!!!

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