There has been a lot of insidious posts making front page recently.

It seems to alternate between daily trust and PR Nigeria. They claim to carry out "fact checks" but end up writing like political jobbers.

You claim to do fact checks but end up writing things like "while we cannot verify the claims..." and still end up with a verdict without investigations and details.

I urge you all to desist - as acts like these is what put Nigeria in this despicable state in the first place.

tempest01:
There as been a lot of insidious posts making front page recently.

It seems to alternate between daily trust and PR Nigeria. They claim to carry out "fact checks" but end up writing like political jobbers.

You claim to do fact checks but end up writing things like "while we cannot verify the claims..." and till end up with a verdict without facts.

I urge you all to desist - as acts like these is what put Nigeria in this despicable state in the first place.

why are you anti fact?

should they allow politicians to continue to gain powers with lies? isn't how nigeria got this fhucked today. politicians lying their ways to powers and using the same lies to rob people blind. (if you lie you must steal)

if you have problem with facts, then you have problem with truth. if you think anyone fact checking is lying, you can provide proof to embarrass them.

Making mockery of journalism. You haven’t spent a single resource to go to the said location and verify anything, and you’re opening a thread titled “fact check”

Such a disgrace to journalism!

ribbit:
why are you anti fact?

should they allow politicians to continue to gain powers with lies? isn't how nigeria got this fhucked today. politicians lying their ways to powers and using the same lies to rob people blind. (if you lie you must steal)

if you have problem with facts, then you have problem with truth. if you think anyone fact checking is lying, you can provide proof to embarrass them.

The so called fact check didn’t provide any new information. How much does it cost to travel to Anambra and verify whether the said politician do the job or not?

Stop enabling mediocrity just because of the candidate you support, encourage journalists to do research and not sit on a computer and write rubbish

Vote for the
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Forget sentimental "Checks"

socialmediaman:


The so called fact check didn’t provide any new information. How much does it cost to travel to Anambra and verify whether the said politician do the job or not?

Stop enabling mediocrity just because of the candidate you support, encourage journalists to do research and not sit on a computer and write rubbish

provide an example?

if i tell you that i built a castle in the air and a fact checker checked the air and couldn't find any castle and concluded there is no castle in the air.
is it the job of the fact checker to keep searching for castle that doesn't exist in the air or my job to provide the proof and location of where i built my castle in the air?


for example, someone went live on national TV that he built hospitals, providing the locations of the so called hospitals for multiple verification and picture evidence would have been great. but you expect fact checkers to turn magicians and provide locations of hospitals someone made up in his head.

ribbit:
provide an example?

if i tell you that i built a castle in the air and a fact checker checked the air and couldn't find any castle and concluded there is no castle in the air.
is it the job of the fact checker to keep searching for castle that doesn't exist in the air or the job of me to provide the proof of where i built my castle in the air?


for example, someone went live on national tv that he built hospitals, providing the locations of the so called hospitals for multiple verification and picture evidence would have been great. but you expect fact checkers to turn magicians and provide locations of hospitals someone made up in his head.

Some people are just pained that their lies are being crushed, maybe the hospital is an invisible one sha, maybe they need a spiritual viewing object to see the hospital

tamdun:

Some people are just pained that their lies are being crushed, maybe the hospital is an invisible one sha, maybe they need a spiritual viewing object to see the hospital

i tire o

ribbit:
why are you anti fact?

should they allow politicians to continue to gain powers with lies? isn't how nigeria got this fhucked today. politicians lying their ways to powers and using the same lies to rob people blind. (if you lie you must steal)

if you have problem with facts, then you have problem with truth. if you think anyone fact checking is lying, you can provide proof to embarrass them.

What makes it a fact, is it because it's called a fact or because it's a fact?
The other fact says that it could not independently verify if 10 hospitals were built, so what was the point?
When the fact finds the truth it will feign ignorant or down play it because it's Peter , is that one a fact?
And one biased modulator will push it to the frontpage, even twice, We are seeing his handwork

tempest01:
There as been a lot of insidious posts making front page recently.

It seems to alternate between daily trust and PR Nigeria. They claim to carry out "fact checks" but end up writing like political jobbers.

You claim to do fact checks but end up writing things like "while we cannot verify the claims..." and till end up with a verdict without facts.

I urge you all to desist - as acts like these is what put Nigeria in this despicable state in the first place.

The Cable

Where lies persist people will be forced to checkmate liars and unverifiable claims of boasters

tempest01:
There as been a lot of insidious posts making front page recently.

It seems to alternate between daily trust and PR Nigeria. They claim to carry out "fact checks" but end up writing like political jobbers.

You claim to do fact checks but end up writing things like "while we cannot verify the claims..." and till end up with a verdict without facts.

I urge you all to desist - as acts like these is what put Nigeria in this despicable state in the first place.

The worst is the modulator that pushes it to the front page, I trust karma, breakfast will get to everybody.

mycar:

What makes it a fact, is it because it's called a fact or because it's a fact?
The other fact says that it could not independently verify if 10 hospitals were built, so what was the point?
When the fact finds the truth it will feign ignorant or down play it because it's Peter , is that one a fact?
And one biased modulator will push it to the frontpage, even twice, We are seeing his handwork

it is fact because it is fact.

just like 2+2=4 is a fact. unless you can miraculously prove to us it isn't.

you cannot independently verify something that doesn't exists unless the person making the claim provides more proof or evidence.

it's like me telling you im a dragon, then asked you to go on a mission to prove that im not a dragon. does that make any sense?
the fact that im using internet is already enough evidence to dismiss my claim that im a dragon.
it is left to me to prove to you im a dragon.

the burden of proof is always on claimant.
this arguement wont be necessary if you can just provide the locations of the hospitals and let people verify. abi we need google and invincible magical glasses to see those hospitals too? just like we needed those to see his achievements as governor?

Those of u condemning the "fact check" can do us a favour by providing the location of the 10 hospitals

socialmediaman:
Making mockery of journalism. You haven’t spent a single resource to go to the said location and verify anything, and you’re opening a thread titled “fact check”

Such a disgrace to journalism!

Nairaland is now on full blown anti Obi mode.
If you can't verify the statement, why bring it to front page?

It's obviously propaganda disguised as fact checking.
It's obviously pro-Tinubu and anti-Obi.

They will bring up a random Facebook post of someone no one knows, or a false information posted by their cronies, they pretend to be debunking "Obi's lies". And the modes keep pushing such to the front page.

But they will fail.

LP is the party.
Peter Obi is the man.
2023 here we come.

tamdun:
Those of u condemning the "fact check" can do us a favour by providing the location of the 10 hospitals

Was it Obi that said he built 10 hospitals or someone who else?
And the claim is obviously a misunderstanding of a true information. It is based on truth.

-Because it is true that Obi was awarded the best governor, but in a category.
-It is true that he got a grant $10,000 or thereabout.
- It is true that he said he would add to the money and build 10 hospitals, fumigate places and do other things.

The posted of the error like you and I post his idea of the truth but was not accurate. But you are short of genuine issues to attack OBi, hence a random post from somewhere by someone.

ribbit:
it is fact because it is fact.

just like 2+2=4 is a fact. unless you can miraculously prove to us it isn't.

you cannot independently verify something that doesn't exists unless the person making the claim provides more proof or evidence.

it's like me telling you im a dragon, then asked you to go on a mission to prove that im not a dragon. does that make any sense?
the fact that im using internet is already enough evidence to dismiss my claim that im a dragon.
it is left to me to prove to you im a dragon.

the burden of proof is always on claimant.
this arguement wont be necessary if you can just provide the locations of the hospitals and let people verify. abi we need google and invincible magical glasses to see it too? just like we needed those to see his achievements as governor?

Yeah 2 +2 =4, right? Then what is 100*0? The answer is fact finding * inability to gather fact.
You see, I didn't have to write much here. The result is clear

ribbit:
it is fact because it is fact.

just like 2+2=4 is a fact. unless you can miraculously prove to us it isn't.

you cannot independently verify something that doesn't exists unless the person making the claim provides more proof or evidence.

it's like me telling you im a dragon, then asked you to go on a mission to prove that im not a dragon. does that make any sense?
the fact that im using internet is already enough evidence to dismiss my claim that im a dragon.
it is left to me to prove to you im a dragon.

the burden of proof is always on claimant.
this arguement wont be necessary if you can just provide the locations of the hospitals and let people verify. abi we need google and invincible magical glasses to see it too? just like we needed those to see his achievements as governor?

Only if these people you're trying to enlighten will be objective and reasonable.
But it seems like a lost cause because they won't be reasonable and objective as long as it isn't what they want to hear/see even if it's the truth. They only care about what is pleasing to them even if it's all a lie.

What they don't know is that it's the responsibility of the claimant(someone that made a claim) to provide evidence to corroborate his/her claim(s).

They are all wasting their time. Peter Obi is the next President of Nigeria. Majority of Nigerians have already made up their mind to vote Obi. Tinubu is wasting his time to spend his resources to sponsor all these press attacks using political jobbers.

The owner of this place is a cassava and agbado soldier, its expected.

Ogbuu101:

Nairaland is now on full blown anti Obi mode.
If you can't verify the statement, why bring it to front page?

ribbit:
why are you anti fact?

should they allow politicians to continue to gain powers with lies? isn't how nigeria got this fhucked today. politicians lying their ways to powers and using the same lies to rob people blind. (if you lie you must steal)

if you have problem with facts, then you have problem with truth. if you think anyone fact checking is lying, you can provide proof to embarrass them.

Fact checking without facts?

tamdun:
Those of u condemning the "fact check" can do us a favour by providing the location of the 10 hospitals

You should actually give us the process you followed and steps taken to check for the 10 hospitals before declaring it false

Whether fact check or not I'm voting Peter Obi. A drug baron and Bokoharam sympathizer are both criminals

tempest01:



Fact checking without facts?

how do you give facts for something that doesn't exist?

ribbit:
how do you give facts for something that doesn't exist?

What steps was taken to find out if it exists?
You should mention the steps you took., not " we cannot verify", so it's false.

Occurstaem:

Only if these people you're trying to enlighten will be objective and reasonable.
But it seems like a lost cause because they won't be reasonable and objective as long as it isn't what they want to hear/see even if it's the truth. They only care about what is pleasing to them even if it's all a lie.

What they don't know is that it's the responsibility of the claimant(someone that made a claim) to provide evidence to corroborate his/her claim(s).

na their way be that.

tempest01:


What steps was taken to find out if it exists?
You should mention the steps you took., not " we cannot verify", so it's false.

Im your God and I created you.

Bring your concrete facts to prove otherwise.

tempest01:


You should actually give us the process you followed and steps taken to check for the 10 hospitals before declaring it false

Oh there's no 10 hospitals? The more reason we need to fact check it, so people won't spfeifake news, don't u agree

I actually think a counter fact check should be carried out if the claims of the fact check are untrue.

Fact Check Should First Start With making sure that the statement under investigation is actually made by the person accused of and not from the same people fact checking in disguise.

You can not be a judge in your own case, which we all know the outcome of your Judgement.

I rest My Case.

ribbit:
why are you anti fact?

should they allow politicians to continue to gain powers with lies? isn't how nigeria got this fhucked today. politicians lying their ways to powers and using the same lies to rob people blind. (if you lie you must steal)

if you have problem with facts, then you have problem with truth. if you think anyone fact checking is lying, you can provide proof to embarrass them.

The dumb Heda started seeing fact checks recently, it tells you who you are even responding to.