Kobojunkie:
Ministering what exactly to your soul? Yet another spin on the story of Samson which has absolutely nothing to do with that which Jesus Christ called you to accepting in His name?

Stop deluding yourselves with these delusions of men and focus all your energy on Jesus Christ instead. Selling your soul cheap to the doctrines and traditions of men, Jesus Christ warned you is the easy way to making sure you never follow God's Truth and render all your worship of Him meaningless - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14

Richy4:
Samson is just one of the character in the Bible that I don't fancy one bit.. His foolishness is beyond comprehension...no matter how nice anyone wants to preach it or make it look sweeter than it sounds...I'm not just buying it..

The moment a man/ woman starts pressuring an individual of certain information,.. that is the moment every normal individual would keep their guard up.. and try to distance themselves from that individual..

She didn't pressurise him once, twice or three times... She did multiple times to the extent of testing to know if indeed he was telling the truth by tieing him Up and all whatnot and he was still with her?...

Sometimes when they preach about it, it sends my mind to the gutters and I wonder the kind of sugar that was coated in Delilah's honey pot...The 'pound town' she was sending daddy Samson to.. that he couldn't extricate himself from her.. he is just an annoying character

otipoju:
1. In Mathew 10 verse 16, Jesus said he is sending out his disciples like sheep among wolves. He advises them to be innocent as doves and wise as serpents. Why to survive in an evil world of men and demons. How do you think this advise plays out in real life ?

2. Let me give you another example from First Kings 13 verse 11 to 25. It tells the story of the young prophet and the Old prophet. If the young prophet had kept his mouth shut about God's instruction to him and simply went about his mission, the old prophet would not have been able to confuse him- a move that led to his sudden and tragic death.

3. For the Christian Church to survive in its early infancy...believers met in secret. They changed the password and location for meetings periodically. Why ? To survive in an evil cruel world. Christianity is very pragmatic and says faith without works is dead.

4. If Samson had not blabbed to Delilah she would not snare him. If Joseph had kept his visions to him to himself he would not have stirred the hatred of his brothers. The Bible gives you insight into raw human nature and how to navigate life with wisdom.

5. If you know who you are talking to, you will not dare to teach me about the Bible. It's not pride it's just fact.I know more about Christianity than your average Pastor and among the trained ones...I was a shining light.

6. Her message is a reminder for me for somethings I found out the hard way and she put it in ways that touched me deeply. Thrones are preserved by secrets. The less people know about you...the harder it is for them to harm you or derail your plans. I have made tremendous progress when I started to keep n my plans to myself alone...something that I had been specifically instructed to be doing from my teenage years and young adulthood.

Go and read about Murphy's Law.

26. “So don’t be afraid of those people. Everything that is hidden will be shown. Everything that is secret will be made known.
27. I tell you all this secretly, but I want you to tell it publicly. Whatever I tell you privately, you should shout for everyone to hear.
- Matthew 10 vs 26-27

26. “So don’t be afraid of those people. Everything that is hidden will be shown. Everything that is secret will be made known.
27. I tell you all this secretly, but I want you to tell it publicly. Whatever I tell you privately, you should shout for everyone to hear.
- Matthew 10 vs 26-27

Kobojunkie:
1. Yet the same Jesus Christ also taught you the following... So, does that there indicate to you that Jesus Christ called you to the keeping of secrets, things you seem to think matter as far as the Kingdom of God is concerned?

2. It is obvious that Jesus Christ did not call you to do as those in the Old Testament did, because as He made clear in the passage above, you are not to keep that which He tells you secret from anyone, nor are you to fear anyone.

3. Believers met in secret? The disciples met in secret and changed passwords, yet they were announced to have met in the temple areas? Anywho, regardless of what you want to concoct of their meetings, the point here is Jesus Christ clearly did not tell anyone to live life as a Christian, a follower of Jesus Christ, in secret. So, I am not sure what you are trying to insinuate here.

4. Samson had already strayed away from God long before he revealed the secret of his strength to his enemies. Joseph did no wrong in revealing his dream to his brothers. You set yourselves up as judges and concoct these ideas regarding what is written without first ensuring you have the right understanding with which to properly judge the stories. These stories are of individuals and how each navigated their individual walk with God. None of these stories are meant to give you insight as to how to navigate your own life with God. Ask the Pharisees and Teachers of the Law. They were experts in scripture yet their lives were far away from God. Do you consider their lives to have been lived in wisdom?

5. You are free to claim whatever you please. Jesus Christ sent His followers out to preach what is the Gospel of the Kingdom of God in His Name. When you preach instead these stories and ideas you have of that which does not concern the Kingdom of God, using His name, don't you also know that you do so in violation of Jesus Christ, who never gave any of His own permission to do so in His name?

6. Her message clearly informs you to doing that which Jesus Christ said you are not to do. What does that tell you? And, Jesus Christ did not call you to follow Murphy's law. Stop using scripture for what it is not meant for.

otipoju:
Have you ever heard of the word context?

Kobojunkie:
If you have ever processed it yourself, you wouldn't refer to that written in the Old Testament as you do. Your relationship with God is defined in the context of Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant Law in the Kingdom of God, whereas the bulk of that written in the Old Testament belongs in the context that is the Old Law of Moses which is the Constitution of the Nation of Israel in the Kingdom of Canaan, to which you don't belong at all and were never called to.

otipoju:
1.Can you just keep quiet for a minute and stop parroting what you heard from one half baked pastor
What exactly is the Old Testament? And what is the new Testament? In fact what is exactly is a Testament ? And what is the nature of God's testament with mankind? What does it mean for the Christian?

2. The account of Samson or Joseph is not the Old Testament, that of the Old prophet and the young prophet are not the Old testaments. The events of Paul's life are not testaments. Nor the event as narrated about Stephen or Peter. So I ask you the question again. What exactly is the Old and New Testament. What exactly is the Gospel.

3. The Bible contains recorded events that happened real time. Elijah's fire from heaven is not a Testament, Jesus raising Jarius daughter is not a Testament. What is a Testament. What is the Old Testament and What is the new Testament and what is their relationship? And finally What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Your answers should not be more than 3 paragraphs if you know what you are saying.

femi4:
God wasn't happy with him associating with strange women too. God warned him through his parents

Judges 14:3
His father and mother replied, “Isn’t there an acceptable woman among your relatives or among all our people? Must you go to the uncircumcised Philistines to get a wife?” But Samson said to his father, “Get her for me. She’s the right one for me.”

Just because the Bible reports certain activities an individual engaged in doesn't mean God condoned the activity

PROPHETmichael:
Verse 4 of that chapter contradicts your statement.
"But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the Lord, that he sought an occasion against the Philistines: for at that time the Philistines had dominion over Israel." Judges 14:4
God couldn't have warned him on that occasion because it was actually God that was pushing inorder to end Philistine dominance over Isreal.

Kobojunkie:
1. I am not a churchian and so I don't have any of your pastors and mogs over my head like you folks do. If you do not understand the difference between what Jesus Christ Himself referred to as Old Wine and New wine, then you definitely need to question your total understanding of what is written in scripture.

2. The accounts contained in the Old Testament, including that of Joseph and Samson, are accounts, that you as a follower of Jesus Christ are not called to model your life after, nor are you called to the following of them. Nor are you called to follow the footsteps of Paul and any of the other disciples, this since Jesus Christ instead said of those who belong to Him, they are those who obey His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 20 - His friends are those who do as He asks - John 15 vs 14. As for the Gospel, it is God's New Covenant and Law in the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ, and His mandate is that all those who belong to Him obey Him and Him alone -- not Samson or Joseph, or Paul or anyone else.

3. God's mandate, from the beginning to all who believe in Him is Obedience to His given Law/Command. These stories of individuals are stories about individuals, and are not meant to serve as distractions from that which God has in fact called HIs own to. Jesus Christ, God's New Covenant, and Law in the Kingdom of God - what is God's Will(Testament) for those who belong in the Kingdom of God - sent His followers out with permission to teach His Gospel, not stories, or ideas, in HIs Name. He warned His own not to be distracted by the doctrines and traditions of men, as those only serve to lead one far from God's Truth.

otipoju:
Wow. Why are you running around in circles. What is a Testament, When exactly was the Old Testament made and with whom? When was the New Testament made and when did it come to effect. What is the role of Divine Monergism in the 5 major Testaments found in the Christian Scriptures. Finally what exactly is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. What is the good news?

Until you can provide simple answers to these questions, I can't even begin to engage you in any meaningful discussion because those thing are foundational. Like i said earlier on, you are an "untrained bible reader" it shows because you the way youre talking shows you know absolutely zilch about biblical exegesis.

Kobojunkie:
I don't see the relevance of any of what you continue to ask to this conversation. Second, I have responded to pretty much every question you have asked here, only it seems you need my answers to fit your particular understanding which probably won't happen since my understanding of scripture likely does not come from the same source that yours does. So?

I no longer engage is what is meaningless exegesis debates either since it is all of it according to the doctrines and traditions of men, that which Jesus Christ made clear is against His Truth... so??

otipoju:
Chairman I have heard you. Simple question you no fit answer. I am asking because you are saying because some events happened in the Old Testament therefore they are no relevant because they did not happen in the new Testament.
That thought process alone shows me you are not a trained bible reader. And that is why i keep asking you what a Testament is. The mere fact that you can not put it in your own words shows you don't even know what uou are saying.
Those events happened in time and did not happen in Old or New Testament...a Testament is merely a contract between two or more parties.
The books in the Bible are records of events..written and compiled over thousands of years. They were not written as Old and New Testaments.
Some of those events give account of when God initiated certain testaments with certain individuals. There are five major Testaments in the Christian Scriptures.
So saying one historical event is the Old Testament and has no relevance to the New Testament shows that you are a first class ignoramus with limited understanding of the Christian tradition.
You may know and quote bible passages but lack a very basic understanding of the Christian faith.Go sidddon make we see road. You think sey to spend 4 years studying religion na joke?
I can't even say you are doing eisigesis sef because you don't even know nothing other than quoting bible passages.

Kobojunkie:
God used him doesn't mean God approved of His ways. Similar is seen in the story of King Saul. God used Saul to further His many campaigns, however, that in no way means God approved of all Saul did.

PROPHETmichael:
1. Let me shock you, Samson could have slept with thousands of women and still get away with it. All he needed to do was not to reveal the secret of his power.

As it is written, So he told her everything. “No razor has ever been used on my head,” he said, “because I have been a Nazirite(DQ) dedicated to God from my mother’s womb. If my head were shaved, my strength would leave me, and I would become as weak as any other man.” Judges 16:17

PROPHETmichael:


Verse 4 of that chapter contradicts your statement.

"But his father and his mother knew not that it was of the Lord, that he sought an occasion against the Philistines: for at that time the Philistines had dominion over Israel." Judges 14:4


God couldn't have warned him on that occasion because it was actually God that was pushing inorder to end Philistine dominance over Isreal.

phemmyfour:
Learn the difference between perfect and permissive will of God

PROPHETmichael:



The word is very clear and simple, stop Trying to complicate issues for yourself. Stick to the simplicity of the word.

If you want further debate on this subject matter, feel free to contact me and we'll go live on my Instagram page for the benefit of others.

phemmyfour:
Learn the difference between perfect and permissive will of God

phemmyfour:
You need to go to the school of theology. The original language of the Bible is not in English

Kobojunkie:


Stop letting men feed your bullsheet using God's Name. God's Will as used in scripture refers to God's Law to men. And all men who are under God’s Law are subject to the same standards. There are no special exemptions created for any even on a case by case basis.

As the other said, God uses even the wicked to accomplish His Will in the lives of His Israel. Samson was marked out for that purpose from his birth and so it didn't matter much whether he strayed away from God since God was decided to use him in accomplishing His purpose for Israel. Samson strayed away from God long before he revealed his secret and so he is a terrible role model for anyone, not that any sane human wil make role models of another human given what God decreed in Jeremiah 17 vs 5 of those who do such in His name.

phemmyfour:
lol, you are even missing the point

The bold is my point.

Richy4:
Your post is nice but should be on religion section of Nairaland or don't you think so?

Richy4:
Samson is just one of the character in the Bible that I don't fancy one bit.. His foolishness is beyond comprehension...no matter how nice anyone wants to preach it or make it look sweeter than it sounds...I'm not just buying it..

The moment a man/ woman starts pressuring an individual of certain information,.. that is the moment every normal individual would keep their guard up.. and try to distance themselves from that individual..

She didn't pressurise him once, twice or three times... She did multiple times to the extent of testing to know if indeed he was telling the truth by tieing him Up and all whatnot and he was still with her?...

Sometimes when they preach about it, it sends my mind to the gutters and I wonder the kind of sugar that was coated in Delilah's honey pot...The 'pound town' she was sending daddy Samson to.. that he couldn't extricate himself from her.. he is just an annoying character

JhimmyThall:
I studied about Samson just last week and honestly I never saw this revelation about him, always thought his downfall was because of his womanizing ways alas I was wrong. Tame your tongue, control what you say, and learn to say no to people it helps a lot.

Broveens42:



That's why it's an unreal story, because your thoughts were centered on realities.

otipoju:


Chairman I have heard you. Simple question you no fit answer. I am asking because you are saying because some events happened in the Old Testament therefore they are no relevant because they did not happen in the new Testament.

That thought process alone shows me you are not a trained bible reader. And that is why i keep asking you what a Testament is. The mere fact that you can not put it in your own words shows you don't even know what uou are saying.

Those events happened in time and did not happen in Old or New Testament...a Testament is merely a contract between two or more parties.

The books in the Bible are records of events..written and compiled over thousands of years. They were not written as Old and New Testaments.

Some of those events give account of when God initiated certain testaments with certain individuals. There are five major Testaments in the Christian Scriptures.

So saying one historical event is the Old Testament and has no relevance to the New Testament shows that you are a first class ignoramus with limited understanding of the Christian tradition.

You may know and quote bible passages but lack a very basic understanding of the Christian faith.

Go sidddon make we see road. You think sey to spend 4 years studying religion na joke?

I can't even say you are doing eisigesis sef because you don't even know nothing other than quoting bible passages.

reubenobi:
he is a Jehovah Witness.. semi atheists people

VladimirPutiin:


But that same chapter in the Bible said God put it in his heart to follow the Philistine woman because he wanted an occasion where Samson will begin to destroy them.

Richy4:
Samson is just one of the character in the Bible that I don't fancy one bit.. His foolishness is beyond comprehension...no matter how nice anyone wants to preach it or make it look sweeter than it sounds...I'm not just buying it..

The moment a man/ woman starts pressuring an individual of certain information,.. that is the moment every normal individual would keep their guard up.. and try to distance themselves from that individual..

She didn't pressurise him once, twice or three times... She did multiple times to the extent of testing to know if indeed he was telling the truth by tieing him Up and all whatnot and he was still with her?...

Sometimes when they preach about it, it sends my mind to the gutters and I wonder the kind of sugar that was coated in Delilah's honey pot...The 'pound town' she was sending daddy Samson to.. that he couldn't extricate himself from her.. he is just an annoying character

VladimirPutiin:


Well you are right. It was God’s plan