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Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 12:40pm On Sep 13, 2022
The reason is because they haven't met Jesus. They don't know God.

No matter how righteous a man can be, his self righteousness cannot save him. No man has the key to the kingdom. Only Jesus. To make heaven, you must first know Jesus.

Man's life on earth is only a fraction of eternity. The forever in a man's life begins after he dies. And there are only two realities after death – Heaven & Hell.

Besides gaining wealth and power, what matters more than anything is your relationship with Jesus.

Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life
No man can come to the Father except by him. In other words, Jesus is the ticket to heaven as He conquered death to give us salvation.

You can't enter heaven after death if you don't know Jesus. And knowing Jesus entails a lot of things besides professing that you're a Christian.

(Matt 7:22)

This thread is here to supply with messages for your soul. Read and be blessed smiley
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 12:43pm On Sep 13, 2022
At Death You Will Know God is Righteous Even in Judgement

Sometimes people think they have many more years ahead but then death comes suddenly.
Just the other day I heard of a lady who just went to take a shower but collapsed and died.
Was she ready for eternity?
If that happened to us, would we be ready for eternity?

Regardless of wether you were an atheist or believed in God,at death you will know beyond all doubt that God is real and you will clearly know what you should have done to be saved,and if you are condemned to hell you will know exactly why and with all your heart you will understand that the judgement is fair.
I do not say this as an opinion but God made me experience it when He showed me hell.
No one in hell thinks God is unjust.
They may blaspheme God's name but deep down their hearts,all the people in hell knew they only had themselves to blame.
They knew Jesus had made a way of salvation which they rejected.
Because once you enter the spiritual realm, everything becomes extremely clear.
You clearly realize what was important in life that you should have spent your time on.
You clearly realize what conversations you shouldn't have bothered with, what arguements and disagreements were unnecessary and just a waste of the prescious time God had given you to serve Him.
When Jesus took me to hell I felt like all conversations that were not about Jesus were a complete waste.
They may not be sinful but they were unprofitable and a waste of my time.
That's how being in the spiritual realm,apart from your earthly body makes you feel.
You realize you were the real loser for being unforgiving, and you wish you had forgiven everyone no matter what they did and regardless of wether or not they were sorry for it because now you see that unforgiveness costs your soul.

Matthew 6:15
"But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

You realize serving God is the most important work we have here on earth and everything else should just be secondary.
When I saw my childhood friend in hell,she was saying,"I wish I was in your place.If I was in your place I wouldn't waste my time.I wouldn't even go out to nice restaurants with my friends.Instead all the time I would be praying,if am not praying I would be reading the Bible,if am not reading the Bible I would be evangelizing. But I wouldn't waste my time!"
It's not a sin to go and have fun or eat at nice restaurants to relax but because she was in eternity,this woman saw that as very unimportant compared to preparing for eternity and serving God.
When you step into eternity priorities become clear because the flesh is out of the way,but it's too late by then.
The time to serve God is today.
We must be good stewards of the time given to us here on earth and live for God's glory.
We must live a holy life of repentance and obedience to Jesus.
Seeking Him everyday and keeping our eyes on our bridegroom.
We must not be adulterous and fall in love with this perishing world.
Here on earth people may accuse God of being unjust in His judgement but once you die and your flesh is out of the way,you will realize God is just even in judgement.
At death you will realize He showed you so much love here on earth.
You will realize He gave you so many chances to repent and turn to Him but you thought the pleasures of sin were better.
In hell no one thinks their sin was worth going to hell for.
They all feel very foolish!
They all know they deserve to be there because they made their own choice.
This is what God showed me.
You will realize you despised God's mercy and that you have only yourself to blame for perishing.
We who are still alive can turn to Jesus because this is the chance He's giving us to turn from sin and follow Him.
Tommorow isn't promised,the day to repent is today.
This is the day to choose Jesus and reject our sin.

Mark 9:43-48
"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter into life maimed, rather than having two hands, to go to hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—
where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.’
And if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life lame, rather than having two feet, to be cast into hell, into the fire that shall never be quenched—
where ‘Their worm does not die, And the fire is not quenched.’
And if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out. It is better for you to enter the kingdom of God with one eye, rather than having two eyes, to be cast into hell fire—
where ‘Their worm does not die And the fire is not quenched.

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 12:08pm On Sep 27, 2022
Social media has made it very easy for people to speak alot of careless words to others and to participate in ungodly jokes that make light of sin and also mock God.
But Jesus said we will be held accountable for every word we speak.

Matthew 12:36-37
"But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment.
For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

The consequences of careless talk are grave,by your words you will be condemned to hell because your words will reveal what is in your heart,and by your words you will be aquitted.

Flirtatious words towards the opposite sex,dirty jokes, hurtful comments,foul words, cussing are not for Christians.
Anyone who engages in these will give an account to God on the day of judgement on why they were flirting with men/women even if they called it "joking" or why they said hurtful things to people just because they were hiding behind a screen,and why they participated in talk not worthy of anyone called by the name of Christ.

Proverbs 10:19
"In the multitude of words sin is not lacking, But he who restrains his lips is wise."

Jesus is still holy,He does not change and He doesn't lower the standard He desires of His children.
He wants them to be unaffected by the increased moral decay because God's children live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God,not by the ever changing standards of the world.
Be holy for I am holy,says the Lord.(1 Peter 1:16)

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 1:29pm On Sep 27, 2022
Paramountgift:
[b]The reason is because they haven't met Jesus. They don't know God....

Name one good person who went to hell.

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 11:41pm On Sep 29, 2022
Hi brothers and sisters,

We need to make sure that we do have a real relationship with Jesus and that we are being led by the Holyspirit.

Jesus promises to be the Shepherd who leads His sheep to good pasture.
He does this through the continued leadership of the Holyspirit.

When leaving earth, Jesus said He would not leave His disciples like orphans but instead would send the Holyspirit to lead them in all truth.

The work of the Holyspirit is to be a constant Shepherd and Teacher to God's children while they are on earth until the day they leave this earth.

His work is to be a Shepherd.

Whenever a child of God is about to stray from the path the Holyspirit is there to correct them,rebuke them and teach them.
He does not just watch them silently.
He speaks about sin even on things not clearly stated in scripture,the Holyspirit will still clearly tell God's children not to engage in those sins.

The Holy Spirit will still clearly tell God's children not to partake of ungodly entertainment.

And at the same time the Holy Spirit also speaks pertaining to false teachings that satan may try to bring in God's name.The Holyspirit speaks clearly on what is true and what is false because He doesn't want us to be misled.He wants us to keep walking on the path to eternal life.

We really need the Holyspirit.

He is jealous for us because He doesn't want us to be defiled by this world but wants us to be holy and pleasing to our Bridegroom, JESUS.

He speaks because His desire is that we should be saved.
The Holyspirit speaks and shows the way in all circumstances because He doesn't want God's children to lose their salvation.

But when people stubbornly continue in sin, ignoring the Holyspirit, eventually He lets them have their way, because He cannot force us to obey.
The Holyspirit will not watch God's children continue in sin and not correct and rebuke them.

That is why when a person receives the baptism of the Holyspirit, the most evident change is their lifestyle.
A person cannot receive the baptism of the Holyspirit yet comfortably continue in their sins.

The Holyspirit is the author of HOLINESS and when He begins the work of holiness in a believer,He wants to make sure He completes that work.
That is why we must make sure we are led by the Holyspirit and not walking in the flesh.
We must not be stubborn to His correction and rebuke.

Sometimes the Holyspirit tells people to quit sin but they choose to ignore because they are comparing themselves to other Christians instead of just looking at Jesus.
Such people will persish in the end because people cannot save us, only Jesus can.
No one can become the Holyspirit for us,there's no replacement for the Holyspirit.
That is why we must make sure that we develop a relationship with Jesus by staying connected to Him.

Spend time in real prayer from the heart daily, and have a lifestyle of seeking God.
Give God priority in your life.


The Lord will start to teach you and to prune you. He corrects because He wants to give you eternal life because sin cannot enter the Kingdom of heaven.
The Holyspirit cannot lead and teach you when you never spend time in prayer and just spend time on earthly things.
Start to pray and Jesus will be your Teacher.He wants to.
If you want to clearly know God's voice,it happens automatically when you have been spending alot of time in prayer.

Seek God and have a real relationship with Jesus. Make sure you obey the Holyspirit.Do not grieve Him with sin.

- Rachael Mushala Chisulo
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by paxonel(m): 2:23am On Sep 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Name one good person who went to hell.
John the Baptist
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 5:40am On Sep 30, 2022
paxonel:
John the Baptist

grin we all know that it is not True.
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by paxonel(m): 7:59am On Sep 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


grin we all know that it is not True.
It's true now! grin

Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

That means, John did not see God's kingdom before he died, and the least among Jesus disciples who eventually saw God's kingdom was greater than John inspite that he was a great prophet
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 2:00pm On Sep 30, 2022
paxonel:

It's true now! grin

Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

That means, John did not see God's kingdom before he died, and the least among Jesus disciples who eventually saw God's kingdom was greater than John inspite that he was a great prophet

Has anyone told you that you are mad? You are mad! grin "least in the kingdom.of heaven" even proves that he is in heaven.

And you said he was s in hell. Meanwhile this passage made no thing about hell! grin

So you see, you don dey madt grin

"Don dey madt! hey
Don dey madt hey

You dey madt
You dey mad!." Sauce Kid song! grin

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:24pm On Sep 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

Name one good person who went to hell.
I will mention two:


Job ~ Job 14:13

And

Jesus
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption. Act 2:31 KJV

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by waititi: 4:32pm On Sep 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

I will mention two:


Job ~ Job 14:13

And

Jesus
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption. Act 2:31 KJV
so job and Jesus went to hell because they did not know God abi?
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:33pm On Sep 30, 2022
waititi:

so job and Jesus went to hell because they did not know God abi?

Hell simply means Grave! smiley

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by waititi: 4:34pm On Sep 30, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

Hell simply means Grave! smiley
which means that everybody went to hell
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by waititi: 4:38pm On Sep 30, 2022
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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:44pm On Sep 30, 2022
waititi:
which means that everybody went to hell

Sure! smiley

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Kobojunkie: 5:12pm On Sep 30, 2022
Paramountgift:
1. The reason is because they haven't met Jesus. They don't know God. No matter how righteous a man can be, his self-righteousness cannot save him.

2. No man has the key to the kingdom. Only Jesus. To make heaven, you must first know Jesus. Man's life on earth is only a fraction of eternity. The forever in a man's life begins after he dies. And there are only two realities after death – Heaven & Hell. Besides gaining wealth and power, what matters more than anything is your relationship with Jesus. Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life
No man can come to the Father except by him. In other words, Jesus is the ticket to heaven as He conquered death to give us salvation. You can't enter heaven after death if you don't know Jesus. And knowing Jesus entails a lot of things besides professing that you're a Christian.
(Matt 7:22)
1. According to Jesus Christ, except a man be born-again, He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - through either of two gates - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27 - the broad gate which leads to Hell(destruction) and the Narrow gate which leads to Heaven(True Life) - and He, Jesus Christ, is King over both Heaven(Eternal Reward) and Hell/HellFire(Eternal Damnation) in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. What this all means is that even those who will spend eternity in Hellfire are all of them born-again. So, when you the reason a "good" person would end up in Hell/Hellfire is because the one has not met Jesus Christ, what exactly do you mean? undecided

2. As for your claim that no man has the key to the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ practically gave the key to the Kingdom of God to everyone who would come to Him, this over 2000 years ago, indicating that the only way to use the key in order to gain access to Heaven is to in fact live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - abide in Him, in order that He would abide in one. So when you instead say that no man has the key to the Kingdom of God, what do you in fact mean? undecided
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by paxonel(m): 5:24pm On Sep 30, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Has anyone told you that you are mad? You are mad! grin "least in the kingdom.of heaven" even proves that he is in heaven.
no!
It's like you are saying the least person in a house is greater than someone else that is outside the house.

How do i know?

Literally, the kingdom represent the era of the beginning of the new covenant which begins after Jesus was crucified and resurrected.
Outside the the kingdom was the era of the old covenant which include the days of John the Baptist.

Right from the days of John the Baptist the kingdom of God suffered violence and the violent took the kingdom by force.

Rember, John the Baptist wasn't among the disciples that took the kingdom by force. He was killed before Jesus was crucified, that is before the era of the kingdom, so he couldn't possibly enter the kingdom

All these happened because he doubted that Jesus was the Christ at some point, if you follow the story

And you said he was s in hell. Meanwhile this passage made no thing about hell! grin
if you are not in the kingdom then you must be in hell, it's two sides of a coin.

John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

So you see, you don dey madt grin

"Don dey madt! hey
Don dey madt hey

You dey madt
You dey mad!." Sauce Kid song! grin

grin grin
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 9:01pm On Sep 30, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. According to Jesus Christ, except a man be born-again, He cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - through either of two gates - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 27 - the broad gate which leads to Hell(destruction) and the Narrow gate which leads to Heaven(True Life) - and He, Jesus Christ, is King over both Heaven(Eternal Reward) and Hell/HellFire(Eternal Damnation) in the Kingdom of God - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46. What this all means is that even those who will spend eternity in Hellfire are all of them born-again. So, when you the reason a "good" person would end up in Hell/Hellfire is because the one has not met Jesus Christ, what exactly do you mean? undecided

2. As for your claim that no man has the key to the Kingdom of God, Jesus Christ practically gave the key to the Kingdom of God to everyone who would come to Him, this over 2000 years ago, indicating that the only way to use the key in order to gain access to Heaven is to in fact live one's life in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments - abide in Him, in order that He would abide in one. So when you instead say that no man has the key to the Kingdom of God, what do you in fact mean? undecided

No man in his adamic ordinary state has the key to the kingdom. Only Jesus. Nevertheless, Jesus handed to us the keys to the kingdom...but that is only possible when we become one with him. When we become like Jesus. And to become like him, we must first accept him.

The point of the entire message is to accept Jesus, and crave a relationship with him, and be Holy as He is, to be able to enter his kingdom. John 14:1-7.
You may know the scriptures to an extent, that's alright. But in all your desire for argument, don't deviate from the point of the message which is – without Jesus, man's life is purposeless, and void of eternal future.

T for Tnks
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Kobojunkie: 9:27pm On Sep 30, 2022
Paramountgift:
No man in his adamic ordinary state has the key to the kingdom. Only Jesus. Nevertheless, Jesus handed to us the keys to the kingdom...but that is only possible when we become one with him. When we become like Jesus. And to become like him, we must first accept him. The point of the entire message is to accept Jesus, and crave a relationship with him, and be Holy as He is, to be able to enter his kingdom. John 14:1-7.You may know the scriptures to an extent, that's alright. But in all your desire for argument, don't deviate from the point of the message which is – without Jesus, man's life is purposeless, and void of eternal future.
Only seeking clarity here so no one is confused by your post. In the Adamic state, man does not have Eternal life - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22. Only those who believe in Jesus Christ are able to acquire Eternal Life, this while still in this life - John 3 vs 1 - 8. undecided
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 4:59am On Oct 01, 2022
paxonel:
no!
It's like you are saying the least person in a house is greater than someone else that is outside the house.

If the House is better than outside then the least person in the house is definitely better.

Many times have people said that it is better to be a servant in heaven than to be a king in hell.

And you have even admitted this in saying "if you are not in the kingdom then you must be in hell, "and the words clearly said "least IN THE KINGDOM"

And not "least NOT in the kingdom". So since "He is in" the kingdom, he can not be in hell as you have said.
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 5:36am On Oct 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

I will mention two:
Job ~ Job 14:13

You are verily Mad!

The passage shows Job was on earth praying to die(grave) a he did not die. Therefore, he did not get to the grave nor hell.

See, insanity.

MaxInDHouse:

And

Jesus
He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in HELL, neither his flesh did see corruption. Act 2:31 KJV

Again see how mad you are? No normal reasonable person has ever described Visiting Prisoners as being "a prisoner" (in hell).

People do it every day, even the Chief Judge of a State, Magistrates and Governors did it. So nothing above normal that Christ also went visiting and it is not described as "in hell".

Please MaxDMad, carry your madness to Uselu.
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:26am On Oct 01, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

You are verily Mad!
The passage shows Job was on earth praying to die(grave) a he did not die. Therefore, he did not get to the grave nor hell.
See, insanity.
Again see how mad you are? No normal reasonable person has ever described Visiting Prisoners as being "a prisoner" (in hell).
People do it every day, even the Chief Judge of a State, Magistrates and Governors did it. So nothing above normal that Christ also went visiting and it is not described as "in hell".
Please MaxDMad, carry your madness to Uselu.

At times i wonder if you can ever say anything reasonable without insulting people who tried to chat with you.

Is this not your question?

Dtruthspeaker:

Name one good person who went to hell.

And according to the Bible Job believes he is going to Hell at death (not heaven) and Jesus also went to Hell according to God's word.

So what is your problem? undecided

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 6:40am On Oct 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


At times i wonder if you can ever say anything reasonable without insulting people who tried to chat with you.

I have never seen a situation where a person is seen putting rice through his nostrils, and is said "that man is mad" is an insult.

Describing what is True has never amounted to an insult.

MaxInDHouse:

Is this not your question?

And according to the Bible Job believes he is going to Hell at death (not heaven) and Jesus also went to Hell according to God's word.

So what is your problem? undecided

The Bible said grave in the case of Job not hell. And the Bible did not say "Job believes he is going to Hell" where it said "job prayed for to die" according to his Job 14:13

And on Jesus, we all know that the normal and usual interpretation of "going to hell" in ordinary speech means "those who are going to hell and permanently staying there". So therefore, it does not include a visitation.
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:49am On Oct 01, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

I have never seen a situation where a person is seen putting rice through his nostrils, and is said "that man is mad" is an insult.
Describing what is True has never amounted to an insult.
The Bible said grave in the case of Job not hell. And the Bible did not say "Job believes he is going to Hell" where it said "job prayed for to die" according to his Job 14:13
And on Jesus, we all know that the normal and usual interpretation of "going to hell" in ordinary speech means "those who are going to hell and permanently staying there". So therefore, it does not include a visitation.

So do you now see where you erred?
Because your question says:

Name one good person who went to hell.

God's word never said some people are going to hell and (permanently) staying there rather what God's word told us is that all the dead in Hell will come out! Revelations 20:13

So according to God's word nobody goes to Hell permanently since they're still coming out! undecided
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Dtruthspeaker: 8:18am On Oct 01, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

So do you now see where you erred?
Because your question says:

Which I said everyone understands the meaning thereof!

MaxInDHouse:

God's word never said some people are going to hell and (permanently)...

We have God's Word and we read it and it said and "they will be thrown into the fire...tormented day and night forever and ever."

And we know that forever means permanently.

So please eh, this issue can rest and there is no need for further talk for we have gone over this before.
Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12am On Oct 01, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

Which I said everyone understands the meaning thereof!
We have God's Word and we read it and it said and "they will be thrown into the fire...tormented day and night forever and ever." And we know that forever means permanently.
So please eh, this issue can rest and there is no need for further talk for we have gone over this before.

The highlighted is it about Hell or Lake of Fire?

You insult people stupidly then run when you found out you're wrong.
Your question is not about Lake of Fire but Hell so stop lying God said Hell is temporary it's the Lake of Fire that's permanent! undecided

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Re: Truth about why even good people still go to Hell by Paramountgift(f): 10:53pm On Mar 26, 2023
Sunday Blessings❣️🎊

In your daily life, when you go out, ask yourself;
Can I act this way in the name of Jesus?
Can I say this thing in the name of Jesus?
Can I create this instrument in the name of Jesus?
The bottom line is...
What you can't do in the name of Jesus, don't do it at all. What you can't do in God's presence for his Glory is not worth doing at all. Let your every action and disposition reflect Christ, and please him.
Acts 8: 12

Can you drink alcohol in Jesus Name? It's an insult to your Maker!
Can you dress provocatively in Jesus Name? I guess not!
Can you smoke in Jesus Name? Outright blasphemy!
Can you club in Jesus Name? That would be sacrilege!
Can you post nudes in Jesus Name? No, it would be blasphemy!
Then avoid those things and whatever you can't do in Jesus Name.
Except of course, you don't live for Jesus or serve him. Except you don't reverence God. Except you're not interested in a reality beyond this temporal life you see🤷‍♀️


Phil 4: 8 is sure model on how to pattern out life our of Christ. If whatever you do is outside that model, and is void of the fruits of the Holy Spirit, you're certainly not ready for heaven yet.
Ask for God's Grace, because it is sufficient. As christians, we're all in the race together. Let's join forces to make the mark.

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