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You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by imagrg(m): 5:31am On Sep 18, 2022
Many of us deceive ourselves by thinking we would make heaven because we attend Church Services often without realising that our service to God is service to humanity.

Oftentimes, as I pass by some markets in the early hours of the day, I see Christian worship organised outside some shops with most traders in attendance. The irony of it all is that, after such services, same traders would still go about either selling fake or adulterated products or selling essential commodities at exorbitant prices.

This act is ungodly and traders should desist from it. Making extraordinary gains in trade is known as usury in the Bible and it is considered sinful in the sight of God.
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:42am On Sep 18, 2022
imagrg:
Many of us deceive ourselves by thinking we would make heaven because we attend Church Services often without realising that our service to God is service to humanity.

Oftentimes, as I pass by some markets in the early hours of the day, I see Christian worship organised outside some shops with most traders in attendance. The irony of it all is that, after such services, same traders would still go about either selling fake or adulterated products or selling essential commodities at exorbitant prices.

This act is ungodly and traders should desist from it. Making extraordinary gains in trade is considered as usury in the Bible and it is considered sinful in the sight of God.

The highlighted is evil in the sight of God and man but selling at exorbitant prices is not evil, if you know a place where you can buy things cheaper go there.
If the government is not controlling the price of commodities in the market then each marketer must use discretion to meet up with business and day to day lives otherwise you'll run out of business when your gain is not enough to make a living in the midst of greedy people.
You can't sell your goods without considering what you will use the gains for. Let's say you're selling bread, your cost price is #60 for a loaf and you plan to sell for #62 to make #2 gain but others are selling at high cost then you'll end up loosing because your gain will not be enough to cater for your needs if not wants.
But deliberately selling fake or adulterated goods is like killing your neighbour who trusted you with his money believing he has gotten value for it!

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Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by paxonel(m): 6:36am On Sep 18, 2022
I'm not encouring ungodly acts though, but doing ungodly things will not make you miss heaven either.

Let's take responsibility for our actions
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:56am On Sep 18, 2022
The word "shrewd" is a downplay. The accurate word is unkind and bad trader.
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:04am On Sep 18, 2022
paxonel:
I'm not encouring ungodly acts though, but doing ungodly things will not make you miss heaven either.

Let's take responsibility for our actions

In spite of

Psalm 1:7
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

2 Chronicles 19:2
king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore [is] wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by paxonel(m): 8:22am On Sep 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


In spite of

Psalm 1:7
For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

2 Chronicles 19:2
king Jehoshaphat, Shouldest thou help the ungodly, and love them that hate the LORD? therefore [is] wrath upon thee from before the LORD.
that's why i said i do not encourage ungodly acts. The old testament dispensation of chronicles and psalm still do apply in our today's physical life.
But for the spirit where heaven belongs, being ungodly does not apply, only faith do

Romans 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh(the physical life), hath found?
Romans 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works(which includes being godly), he hath whereof to glory; but not before God.


The conclusion of the whole matter presented in Romans chapter 4 is that :


Romans 4:21 And being fully persuaded(having faith) that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform.
Romans 4:22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.


Meaning, mere having faith is the godliness, no other godliness approved by God who is a spirit
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by Dtruthspeaker: 8:34am On Sep 18, 2022
paxonel:
...
Meaning, mere having
L faith is the godliness, no other godliness approved by God who is a spirit

We have battled this before.

The same Romans says having these things
"Let us walk honestly, (ROM 13:13), Render therefore to all their due" (13:7); be not conformed to this world: ...renew your mind." (12:2) and many other counsels of God Fullness are also approved.
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by orisa37: 8:38am On Sep 18, 2022
YES YOU CAN IF YOU DON'T CHEAT AND BREAK AGREEMENTS.
BREACH OF CONTRACTS IS THE SIN.
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by paxonel(m): 10:46am On Sep 18, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


We have battled this before.

The same Romans says having these things
"Let us walk honestly, (ROM 13:13), Render therefore to all their due" (13:7); be not conformed to this world: ...renew your mind." (12:2) and many other counsels of God Fullness are also approved.
very true!
I never doubted all that.

But may be, the aspect that you people failed to understand is rightly dividing the word of truth:

The truth is, heaven and faith falls into one category which is eternal life
godliness or works of the law, or being honest or any of the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians 6, all falls into a different category different from faith or heaven.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Mark the word WITHOUT.
which means, faith has nothing to do with the laws of this world just like Jesus says my kingdom(which requires faith to attend) is not of this world

So when i hear people say you will not make heaven because you sin, who gave them the right to judge people like that, have they been to heaven before?,are they too not sinners?

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by Dtruthspeaker: 5:29pm On Sep 18, 2022
paxonel:

The truth is, heaven and faith falls into one category which is eternal life
godliness or works of the law, or being honest or any of the fruits of the spirit mentioned in Galatians 6, all falls into a different category different from faith or heaven.

Romans 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Mark the word WITHOUT.
which means, faith has nothing to do with the laws of this world just like Jesus says my kingdom(which requires faith to attend) is not of this world

So when i hear people say you will not make heaven because you sin, who gave them the right to judge people like that, have they been to heaven before?,are they too not sinners?

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

I told you then that Paul was a Lawyer and all of his letters are exactly as a lawyer's document requiring a lawyer to decode it for you.

Therefore, you missed the import of the same Romans 13:8 and 10 , I cited which clearly sums up this Law and Right Conduct aka righteousness debate stating

8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.

10 Love worketh no I'll to his neighbour: therefore, LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW"
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by paxonel(m): 5:27pm On Sep 19, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


I told you then that Paul was a Lawyer and all of his letters are exactly as a lawyer's document requiring a lawyer to decode it for you.

Therefore, you missed the import of the same Romans 13:8 and 10 , I cited which clearly sums up this Law and Right Conduct aka righteousness debate stating

8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another HATH FULFILLED THE LAW.

10 Love worketh no I'll to his neighbour: therefore, LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW"
And you know, Paul did not just only speak of the law but he also mentioned spirituality?
Re: You Cannot Make Heaven If You Are A Shrewd Trader! by Dtruthspeaker: 7:26am On Sep 20, 2022
paxonel:
And you know, Paul did not just only speak of the law but he also mentioned spirituality?

The Bible and The Law is all about spirituality from the beginning to to the end.

1. Thou shalt Love The Lord, thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy Strength. Deuteronomy 6:5

2. “As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a whole heart and a willing mind; for the Lord searches all hearts, and understands every intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will let you find Him; but if you forsake Him, He will reject you forever.

Psalm 51:17
The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit;
A broken and a contrite heart,
O God, You will not despise

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