I know 93% of the Protestant Churches really don’t understand the Scripture and most of their Founders are using Churches as Business Enterprises where they can maximize profit.  I have enquired and discovered that Evangelical Church of New Jerusalem is one of the Churches that suffer children in the name of fasting – children within the ages of 4 and above are mandated to fast.  Go and ask them, they will tell you that Timothy was a kid when he knew the scripture.  This has been their quote.  If you go to the history of the above church – the Founder has been a secrete member of Amok and most of their Pastors are partly members of this Amok. Regrettably, most of their members don’t know this and I know some people will like to come forward and dispute this confirmed truth. 

They are not alone, even Christ Embassy and some many other Protestant Pastors who like to fake miracle knows where they meet.   I can direct anyone who ventures to doubt me to take a trip to Stadium Road, Elekahia, Port Harcourt to ask about one young Herbalist about all these Pastors.  Once you get to this Stadium – just ask about Mechanic Shops, and then from there you can ask about the Herbalist.  I have forgotten the name of the Street. 

The early Apostles never believed in fixing or occasion miracles.  Miracles happened as they journeyed – just along the road, but today the story is different.  And when you ask – they will question you back if those lame on the streets have faith.  There are many of them, even Redeemed Church is one of the Business Enterprises.

I cannot advise any person to worship with Evangelical Church of New Jerusalem.  The church is out to lead many people to hell.

Christianity is good and Christ wants His followers to first seek the miracle of transformation- changing from your sinful act to a righteous person.  These days we scamper for miracles that only base on fake financial power and wealth.

@ poster i believe u hav notin important to do becos if u do ?a simple question like wat is the name of the church would have been answered by you if u are not been misterious.

I know 93% of the Protestant Churches really don’t understand the Scripture and most of their Founders are using Churches as Business Enterprises where they can maximize profit. I have enquired and discovered that Evangelical Church of New Jerusalem is one of the Churches that suffer children in the name of fasting – children within the ages of 4 and above are mandated to fast. Go and ask them, they will tell you that Timothy was a kid when he knew the scripture. This has been their quote. If you go to the history of the above church – the Founder has been a secrete member of Amok and most of their Pastors are partly members of this Amok. Regrettably, most of their members don’t know this and I know some people will like to come forward and dispute this confirmed truth.

They are not alone, even Christ Embassy and some many other Protestant Pastors who like to fake miracle knows where they meet. I can direct anyone who ventures to doubt me to take a trip to Stadium Road, Elekahia, Port Harcourt to ask about one young Herbalist about all these Pastors. Once you get to this Stadium – just ask about Mechanic Shops, and then from there you can ask about the Herbalist. I have forgotten the name of the Street.

The early Apostles never believed in fixing or occasion miracles. Miracles happened as they journeyed – just along the road, but today the story is different. And when you ask – they will question you back if those lame on the streets have faith. There are many of them, even Redeemed Church is one of the Business Enterprises.

I cannot advise any person to worship with Evangelical Church of New Jerusalem. The church is out to lead many people to hell.

Christianity is good and Christ wants His followers to first seek the miracle of transformation- changing from your sinful act to a righteous person. These days we scamper for miracles that only base on fake financial power and wealth.

I really commend the effrot of people like you who will bring Lies to substantiate their imagination. I quite agree that there are wolfs in sheep clothings today, but I appreciate people coming out to post nonsense with confidence just because you want people to beleive your stories.

You talked of an herbalist where Men of God patronised. I leave your Conscience with God. God will Judge you accordingly.

However, I wish to let you know that The Redeemed Christian Church of God is Vision of God. It is when you make that statement that indicated you are only making an insinuation. It may interest you to know that RCCG is not own by an individual and it was not Founded by Pastor Adeboye.

The Redeemed Christian Church of God is not a Business Venture. We only tell you of the Truth we know and we are sure of.

I will request that whenever we want to post points here we should not just type because we are angry but type because you are sensible.

I pray God will help you to find your path.

@ davifonexe (sorry if i mispelt your name)

The truth of the matter is whether this topic is real or fake is irrelevant - we just need to acknowledge that there are churches that over step the xtianity boundaries.

You say God will judge people for speaking about 'Men of God' the fact of the matter is that there are some that God didnt send - and God will not judge you for talking about them cause they arent his.

I am finding out so many things about God recently because the ministers have pulled the wool over my eyes for so long that it is terrible - its not really their fault becuase 'those that know their God will not be exploited' i didnt know my God and i was exploited big time.

There are just too many churches here in Nigeria and there is no accountability - people are just doing what they want and they are just misleading God's people - and God isnt happy.
He is waiting for His children to get knowledge - 'My people perish for lack of knowledge'.

My prayer is that God will open our eyes to see what we are supposed to see because it s ridiculous. My daughter is nine and God will not let me see any kind of trouble that will make her fast at this age - Baba help me!

The mistakes most parents / people make is that they take their ministers as 'gods' they fear them only more than God himself - it took me a long time to realise and thank God am still learning.

My sister tell them.  All these Churches every street - it has not been the will of God.  Satan is seriously working with 95% of the Protestant Pastors.  As you are right now, you can open a church in the name of Redeemed.  What you only do is to be returning some Percentage (amount) annually to Adeboye who called himself The General Overseer. 

That is the very reason Redeemed is scattered everywhere.  It is a disgrace to Christianity.  It shows the division among Christians.  They know, some people can easily identify with them on hearing the name 'Redeemed Church."  It is like Nominal or Quasi Partner who never contributed money in the establishment of the business but people uses his name to run business.  That is Redeemed Church for you.  The Church is a big time Business Enterprise.

There are many of them.

Taking religion literally is destructive,it is for no brainers and they pass on to innocent children,a vicious circle of doom.Oh,when wil my people see.

A child learns about, and start to control its enviroment through the senses and motor,abilities,and this movement and abilities is what he or she sees the parents and adult around him or her do.People are how they think and what they do. You are limited by your imaginations and what you are ready undertake.

@ ebos, davixfone

I dont care what you guys think about Churches, but your shallow mindset of just opening your mouth and saying facts you don't know is just a pity, are you guys old enough to be on this site.

The thread started with Child abuse in a church which is a grave offense and then you are talking about other churches that am sure you have probably not stepped into.

Well may God judge you for your threads, if Pastor Adeboye and Pastor Chris are not men of God, so be it, but if they are truly men of God, then I can assure you of the judgement that truly awaits you from GOD.

There have been many fake churches and apostles from the bible days and it didn't stop the growth of the church,

I think you guys should focus on the issue of child abuse and stop saying things from the vain/vague imaginations of men who look for every excuse not to go church

@ davifonexe (sorry if i mispelt your name)

The truth of the matter is whether this topic is real or fake is irrelevant - we just need to acknowledge that there are churches that over step the xtianity boundaries.

You say God will judge people for speaking about 'Men of God' the fact of the matter is that there are some that God didnt send - and God will not judge you for talking about them cause they arent his.

I am finding out so many things about God recently because the ministers have pulled the wool over my eyes for so long that it is terrible - its not really their fault becuase 'those that know their God will not be exploited' i didnt know my God and i was exploited big time.

There are just too many churches here in Nigeria and there is no accountability - people are just doing what they want and they are just misleading God's people - and God isnt happy.
He is waiting for His children to get knowledge - 'My people perish for lack of knowledge'.

My prayer is that God will open our eyes to see what we are supposed to see because it s ridiculous. My daughter is nine and God will not let me see any kind of trouble that will make her fast at this age - Baba help me!

The mistakes most parents / people make is that they take their ministers as 'gods' they fear them only more than God himself - it took me a long time to realise and thank God am still learning.

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My sister tell them. All these Churches every street - it has not been the will of God. Satan is seriously working with 95% of the Protestant Pastors. As you are right now, you can open a church in the name of Redeemed. What you only do is to be returning some Percentage (amount) annually to Adeboye who called himself The General Overseer.

That is the very reason Redeemed is scattered everywhere. It is a disgrace to Christianity. It shows the division among Christians. They know, some people can easily identify with them on hearing the name 'Redeemed Church." It is like Nominal or Quacy Partner who never contributed money in the establishment of the business but people uses his name to run business. That is Redeemed Church for you. The Church is a big time Business Enterprise.

There are many of them.



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Taking religion literally is destructive,it is for no brainers and they pass on to innocent children,a vicious circle of doom.Oh,when wil my people see.

Hear what Jesus said to Pharisees in the Bible " Remove the Log of wood in your eyes before you can see clearly to remove that pebble in the eyes of others" Also remember that man who was trying to help the Ark of God He was struck to death. I believe none of you can see better than God. Besides God never appoint you to discipline His messangers. Anyone who fail to read his bible somebody will read it for them.

I want to ask you guys making comments have you any encounter at all with Holy Spirit that can give you ability to discern things and not to allow devil speak through you.

He who have hears let him hear what the Spirit is telling the Church.

This Thread lack substance. Name the church or forever remain silent.[/color][color=#990000][color=#990000][/color]

I stil remember my dayz in nigeria, As a kid, u only fasted til 12 noon and that was it. Dry fasting for kids, are u kiddin me?

wonder if the parents of these children ever heard of chronic ulcer. beats me why we have made christianity a burden. i indulge people to emancipate themselves from slavery of this sort!!!

The teachings of christ was main to deface the imperial majesties of the preceeding civilizations,the Egyptians,the Greeks and the Romans.
From their monumental structures in jewelries,status,palaces,temples and empires to the simplicity of the foster son of a local capenter,who mingles with fishermen and prostitutes,state of self-exaltation,from material to spiritual,with the key word,control,the one.It sets you free from the boundage of vanity and incapability.A balance.

somebody should get me the name and address of that church cos dats the biggest bullshit of the century!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ME THINKS THAT ALOT OF ABSURDITIES R BEING PERPETRATED UNDER THE NAME OF RELIGION IN NIGERIA, I BELIEVE THAT A DEEPER LOOK INTO THE MINDS OF SOME THIS SO CALLED RELIGION CUSTODIANS WILL SHOW THAT THEY HAVE ONE MENTAL IMPAIRMENT OR THE OTHER, AND ITS SAD THE PEOPLE JUST SHUT UP AN WATCH SUCH PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH ACTS THAT THEY WILL NOT ALLOW NORMAL PEOPLE GET AWAY WITH, ALL BECAUSE THEY R SUPPOSED TO BE RELIGIOUS,

NA WA O I can't even fast one day, 7 yr old are now doing 3 days, is that in Nigeria cos that cannot happen in d states, dem go close that church with immediate effect! Chei, all in d name of worshiping God, abusing d poor children, what a pity!!!

NA WA O I can't even fast one day

This is the trick of the devil to limit you. I beleive you aspire to go heigher in life? learn to make your requests know through Fasting and Prayers. For the Bible says "if not through fasting and Prayers no one can receive from God"

Shallom!

IN THE LAND OF THE BLIND, A ONE EYED MAN IS THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!

dafidixone:



This is the trick of the devil to limit you. I beleive you aspire to go heigher in life? learn to make your requests know through Fasting and Prayers. For the Bible says "if not through fasting and Prayers no one can receive from God"

Shallom!

Dude, u know that was just an expression, right??

I lived with a pastor for 8 yrs, I know what fasting is, but I was not made to fast 3 days straight at a very tender age, that is just wrong!

"YOU AFRICANS LISTEN TO ME AS AFRICANS YOU WANNA BE EUROPEANS LISTEN TO ME WITH OPEN MINDS"
FELA KUTI

" MAY OUR ANCESTORS DELIVERE US FROM OUR DEPARTED WAYS AND LEAD US TO WHAT IS MADE FOR US"
TRADITIONIST

@ ebuos or wat eva ur name is pronounced i dont know but may i ask you which particular EVANGELICAL CHURCH OF NEW JERUSALEM are u talkin of if u are sure of wat u are saying cos am not that sure you are. pls i'll be glad if u answer this questions


cos is not good to jugde ok?

Fasting - dry or wet - is not OBLIGATORY for true xtians.
Jesus who fasted 40d/n fulfilled the shadow of fasting prescribed to the Jews under d law given to moses. That is y he did not make any issue of it when his disciples were accused of not fasting.
Fasting therefore is personal after the ransom sacrifice of the lord was applied on behalf of mankind.
Anyone who has studied the bible will agree that no one in fasted among the prophets or apostles while suffering hunger and sickness and extreme poverty.
That church forcing fasting on children should be prosecuted for endangering the lives of infants - children below 18years - for putting them at risk of manultrition the ignorant brethren should be investated by the Lagos State Govt.

"For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" - 1 Pet 4:17

"And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." - Rev 18:4

By GOD's mercy and grace, he who has a an ear to hear, will hear.