There's no doubt about judgement. God will judge everyone according to their deeds. If you do good, you will be judged as a sheep, if you do bad, a goat. Goats don suffer

But critically looking at how they explain judgement to us today doesn't seem logical.

First, we were told that all of us will stand before the throne and be jugded.
1. How many of us? 8billion people? If good is a God of justice, do you think the judgement will be so fast than the speed of light? How many days does it take to judge a case, gathering evidences, calling witnesses and all?

2. Those that have died, will God resurrect them and if they are bad, he kills them again? And to even think that they teach us that good people go to heaven straight, will God judge them again? If you say No, then why waste time judging the bad again?

See, friends, judgment is now, as you live, you're judged. When you do evil things and people call you out, you quickly say they are judging. No, they are not. They are just calling you what you are. If you behave like a LovePeddler and you're called a LovePeddler, they say they are judging, No, judgement comes with a punishment, so, i am just calling you by what you do.

My Bible tells me that their will be a resurrection of people into eternal life and into destruction. God wont waste his and our time resurrecting evil people and destroy them again. Except those that died without knowing God at all. God knows these ones and they will be given a second chance to learn about God during the 1000 years rulership of Christ.

So, there laws of God, if you keep them, you're judging yourself, if you break them, you're also judging yourself.

Stop thinking 8billion (if we never increase) would stand before a table and be judged.

TruthHurts100:

First, we were told that all of us will stand before the throne and be jugded.
1. How many of us? 8billion people? If good is a God of justice, do you think the judgement will be so fast than the speed of light? How many days does it take to judge a case, gathering evidences, calling witnesses and all?

No different from our courts. It takes time but in the end all cases are dispensed.

And God's own is faster, for
i) no can lie to God for it is impossible because the spirit of Lie who makes you lie does not go near God at all. (You can check it you would see that no one lies before God especially when on trial. Not even Satan.)

ii) Everyone would be there so there is need for adjournments for people to attend their trial and their case because everyone is in the Court at the same time, including the world data collection centre.

TruthHurts100:

2. Those that have died, will God resurrect them and if they are bad, he kills them again?

Daniel 12:2 has already told you that everyone who died will wake up for judgement.

TruthHurts100:

And to even think that they teach us that good people go to heaven straight, will God judge them again? If you say No, then why waste time judging the bad again?

It means that they say, were wrong and did not understand what the Bible said.

Dtruthspeaker:


No different from our courts. It takes time but in the end all cases are dispensed.

And God's own is faster, for
i) no can lie to God for it is impossible because the spirit of Lie who makes you lie does not go near God at all. (You can check it you would see that no one lies before God especially when on trial. Not even Satan.)

ii) Everyone would be there so there is need for adjournments for people to attend their trial and their case because everyone is in the Court at the same time, including the world data collection centre.



Daniel 12:2 has already told you that everyone who died will wake up for judgement.



It means that they say, were wrong and did not understand what the Bible said.

No Bible ever said they will resurrect for judgement. Check again.

Dtruthspeaker:


No different from our courts. It takes time but in the end all cases are dispensed.

And God's own is faster, for
i) no can lie to God for it is impossible because the spirit of Lie who makes you lie does not go near God at all. (You can check it you would see that no one lies before God especially when on trial. Not even Satan.)

ii) Everyone would be there so there is need for adjournments for people to attend their trial and their case because everyone is in the Court at the same time, including the world data collection centre.



Daniel 12:2 has already told you that everyone who died will wake up for judgement.



It means that they say, were wrong and did not understand what the Bible said.

No Bible ever said they will resurrect for judgement. Check again.

And lets assume we are 16 billion to be judged and each is judged in one second, it mean it would take like 507 years for judgement. I don't think that is logical. It is called Judgement Day, not centuries.

TruthHurts100:


No Bible ever said they will resurrect for judgement. Check again.

Your Bible does not have Daniel 12:2 or Acts 24:15 or Revelation 20:12-15?

You sef accept the Truth!

TruthHurts100:

And lets assume we are 16 billion to be judged and each is judged in one second, it mean it would take like 507 years for judgement. I don't think that is logical. It is called Judgement Day, not centuries.

Did you not hear nothing is impossible with God?

Secondly, do you not see how the guilty are already declare themselves guilty and disqualified from eternal life even though the Judgement Day has not yet come and trial has not commenced?

Tells you how very easy it is and it will be on that Day!

TruthHurts100:
A. First, we were told that all of us will stand before the throne and be jugded.
1. How many of us? 8billion people? If good is a God of justice, do you think the judgement will be so fast than the speed of light? How many days does it take to judge a case, gathering evidences, calling witnesses and all?

2. Those that have died, will God resurrect them and if they are bad, he kills them again? And to even think that they teach us that good people go to heaven straight, will God judge them again? If you say No, then why waste time judging the bad again?

A. All those who tell you such tales are obviously the very antiChrist's - against Jesus Christ - Jesus Christ warned people to steer clear of.

1. According to that explained by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, all those to face judgment will end up spending eternity, either in reward or in damnation, yet according to the same Jesus Christ, only those who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life(eternity) - John 3 vs 16 - 21 - and only those who are born-again gain access into the Kingdom of God where that eternity is to be spent in either of Heaven or Hell - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14. Surely, not all 8 billion people on earth even today believe in Jesus Christ and are born-again.

2. God's promise of resurrection only belongs to those who have eternal life, this He established from the beginning when He decreed that all those who die in unbelief will perish in the grave - from dust you(mind, body, and soul) were made and to dust you(mind, body, and soul) will return - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22.

Kobojunkie:
A. All those who tell you such tales are obviously the very antiChrist's - against Jesus Christ - Jesus Christ warned people to steer clear of.

So, the antichrists are here already? I thought you people said they are still coming

1. According to that explained by Jesus Christ in Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46, all those to face judgment will end up spending eternity, either in reward or in damnation, yet according to the same Jesus Christ, only those who believe in Jesus Christ will have eternal life(eternity) - John 3 vs 16 - 21 - and only those who are born-again gain access into the Kingdom of God where that eternity is to be spent in either of Heaven or Hell - John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14. Surely, not all 8 billion people on earth even today believe in Jesus Christ and are born-again.

This born again thing is confusing, is there a scriptural backings as to what is believed to be "born Again" when Uncle Nic went to see christ that night and he asked Christ what it means to be born again, did Christ tell him he only need to confess Christ as his personal lord and saviour? And again, do we have example of people who got born again in the bible? And I want to ask if it was those people who decided to be born again on their own or it was God who chose them."

2. God's promise of resurrection only belongs to those who have eternal life, this He established from the beginning when He decreed that all those who die in unbelief will perish in the grave - from dust you(mind, body, and soul) were made and to dust you(mind, body, and soul) will return - Genesis 3 vs 19 - 22.

So, if what God said is that unrepentant soul perish in the grave, why are you people still saying its hell fire? I'm tired jare.

TruthHurts100:
So, if what God said is that unrepentant soul perish in the grave, why are you people still saying its hell fire? I'm tired jare.

Jesus Christ warned you against the many "you people" our there whose sole purpose is to confuse and delude many into entering the Kingdom of God via the broad gate that leads to destruction(Hell fire). Just think about it!

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ warned you against the many "you people" our there whose sole purpose is to confuse and delude many into entering the Kingdom of God via the broad gate that leads to destruction(Hell fire). Just think about it!

Uncle, forget it. Nobody is going to hell fire. In fact there's nothing like that. Unrepentant sinner will not be resurrected. God is not burning anybody. If hell is a place of torment, why did Jesus go there? Why did a righteous man like job prayed to go there to rest?

TruthHurts100:
Uncle, forget it. Nobody is going to hell fire. In fact there's nothing like that. Unrepentant sinner will not be resurrected. God is not burning anybody. If hell is a place of torment, why did Jesus go there? Why did a righteous man like job prayed to go there to rest?

I think you need to read your Bible more intelligently is what.

Even I have described my life for many years as hellish(damnation) but that don't mean I have ever literally been in Hell or know exactly what literal Hell is from experience. So, why can't a man like Job, Jonah, David, Jeremiah, etc. describe the longing of their mind using their own idea of Hell and in similar manner?

It is obvious from God's promise of Death to unbelievers and Eternal life only to the righteous how Job could have, through his torment considered having his soul cease eternally, a blessing in disguise rest for his weary soul even though righteous. I remember desiring that myself back when I first began knowing God, right before it dawned on me that by believing in Jesus Christ I had caused that boat and chance at perishing in the grave to sail - there is no returning of the gift of eternal life once you obtain it from Jesus Christ.

As for Jesus Christ, He was in the grave for 3 days, so at what point did He reach into Hell(Eternal damnation) in the Kingdom of God of which He taught that no man would enter into until after He, Jesus Christ, has returned and judged all - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 ? Jesus Christ Himself said He had not ascended into the Kingdom of God, this after His resurrection, indicating that He had yet to enter into the Kingdom of God where He is King over both Heaven and both Hell.

Make una no dey make believers dey seem like ignorant monkeys by your assertions when clearly what is written is that even Jesus Christ believes there is a literal place of eternal damnation, which we refer to as Hell/Hellfire, over which He is King over. If you don't believe Jesus Christ is King over such a place. As He Himself boasted, then you have no business associating yourself with Him.

Kobojunkie:
I think you need to read your Bible more intelligently is what.

Even I have described my life for many years as hellish(damnation) but that don't mean I have ever literally been in Hell or know exactly what literal Hell is from experience. So, why can't a man like Job, Jonah, David, Jeremiah, etc. describe the longing of their mind using their own idea of Hell and in similar manner?

It is obvious from God's promise of Death to unbelievers and Eternal life only to the righteous how Job could have, through his torment considered having his soul cease eternally, a blessing in disguise rest for his weary soul even though righteous. I remember desiring that myself back when I first began knowing God, right before it dawned on me that by believing in Jesus Christ I had caused that boat and chance at perishing in the grave to sail - there is no returning of the gift of eternal life once you obtain it from Jesus Christ.

As for Jesus Christ, He was in the grave for 3 days, so at what point did He reach into Hell(Eternal damnation) in the Kingdom of God of which He taught that no man would enter into until after He, Jesus Christ, has returned and judged all - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 46 ? Jesus Christ Himself said He had not ascended into the Kingdom of God, this after His resurrection, indicating that He had yet to enter into the Kingdom of God where He is King over both Heaven and both Hell.

Make una no dey make believers dey seem like ignorant monkeys by your assertions when clearly what is written is that even Jesus Christ believes there is a literal place of eternal damnation, which we refer to as Hell/Hellfire, over which He is King over. If you don't believe Jesus Christ is King over such a place. As He Himself boasted, then you have no business associating yourself with Him.

I like your intelligent write up, even though you suggested that I'm not intelligent.

My own is, Hell was never a place of torment. It is those who want our loving God to be seen as evil that came up with this lie. In Hebrew if I'm correct, Hell / Hades means grave. In the root meaning of hell in the old English, hell means to hide or to cover. When fire was added, we dont know. So if it means grave, to hide or to cover, then it makes sense why Jesus went to hell, he died, he was buried. Job prayed to die (buried) waiting for God to resurrect him.

If your hell is a place of torment please explain this scripture. Revelation 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

I wish I am more intelligent like you.

TruthHurts100:

I like your intelligent write up, even though you suggested that I'm not intelligent.
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If your hell is a place of torment please explain this scripture. Revelation 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. I wish I am more intelligent like you.

whatever your hell is or my hell is....the only important fact is that revealed to us by Jesus Christ, the one whose Kingdom we all aspire to, and He made clear in His teachings that at the end awaits for each one of us either of Eternal Reward or Eternal Damnation. Any one who claims to believe in God via Jesus Christ that attempts to dispute even that needs his head seriously mined.

People accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe.

Andy Rooney

TruthHurts100:

My own is, Hell was never a place of torment.

It is those who want our loving God to be seen as evil that came up with this lie. In Hebrew if I'm correct, Hell / Hades means grave. In the root meaning of hell in the old English, hell means to hide or to cover. When fire was added, we dont know. So if it means grave, to hide or to cover, then it makes sense why Jesus went to hell, he died, he was buried. Job prayed to die (buried) waiting for God to resurrect him.

Without doubt hell means a situation or place of torment and suffering as everyone has experienced whether we call it hell or hell fire, it's still the same thing meaning a place of suffering and sorrow and pain

TruthHurts100:

If your hell is a place of torment please explain this scripture. Revelation 20:14

And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

I wish I am more intelligent like you.

This just shows that God has a place where hell will shout "damn am in hell".

Revelation 20:14 therefore shows that God has a hell that can kill the hell we know.

Dtruthspeaker:
People accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe.

Andy Rooney



Without doubt hell means a situation or place of torment and suffering as everyone has experienced whether we call it hell or hell fire, it's still the same thing meaning a place of suffering and sorrow and pain



This just shows that God has a place where hell will shout "damn am in hell".

Revelation 20:14 therefore shows that God has a hell that can kill the hell we know.

Does this make any logical sense to you? Can you back this up with the bible? Only if you know what "The Second Death" is.

TruthHurts100:


Does this make any logical sense to you? Can you back this up with the bible? Only if you know what "The Second Death" is.

Go read and see. Second death only applies to those who are dead and not to those who are still living on that great and terrible day.

Second death means they have died before, so now they shall die a second time.

There is no judgement there is only reincarnation to your karmic environment

Dtruthspeaker:


Go read and see. Second death only applies to those who are dead and not to those who are still living on that great and terrible day.

Second death means they have died before, so now they shall die a second time.

Wow! Well, that's not what the Bible says. Let me help you the best way I can.

First, What is the first death? It is the present deaths as a result of the sin we inherited from Adam and Eve. The death of Jesus Christ nullifies this one. It gives opportunity for resurrection.

What is now second death. During the 1000 reign of Christ, we will no longer be under the curse of Adam and Eve. Towards the end of this period when the Devil will be released for a final test, everyone will be responsible for their own sin. And when God is destroying the devil finally, all sinners will die with him. No resurrection this time. That is why the Bible refer to that death as the lake of fire. Total destruction. It is not a literal fire, cos that Revelation 20:14 said Death and Hell (GRAVE) will be thrown into the lake of fire. Death and hell are not visible things. Hense, it makes better sense that that lake of fire means total elimination of all things that causes God and mankind pains and sorrow.

I hope you can consider this with an open mind.

The Hell fire teaching is false. God is a God of love and justice. It will be an injustice if the original sinners never went to suffer in fire. And it will be a greater injustice if someone is punished forever for a sin he inherited while alive for less than 100 years.

scaryblake:
There is no judgement there is only reincarnation to your karmic environment

And where is this idea of yours written of so we can investigate it together?

Kobojunkie:
And where is this idea of yours written of so we can investigate it together?

Of course this is not Bible stuff this is kabalah

scaryblake:
Of course this is not Bible stuff this is kabalah

Under the teachings of what prophet?

Kobojunkie:
Under the teachings of what prophet?

Kabbalah is not from a prophet it's science. need to be awakened I am not here to convince u.

scaryblake:
Kabbalah is not from a prophet it's science. need to be awakened I am not here to convince u.

Kabbalah based on ?

Kab·ba·lah

the ancient Jewish tradition of mystical interpretation of the Bible, first transmitted orally and using esoteric methods (including ciphers). It reached the height of its influence in the later Middle Ages and remains significant in Hasidism.

Kobojunkie:
Kabbalah based on ?

Yes but it was before the Bible

TruthHurts100:
..First, What is the first death? It is the present deaths as a result of the sin we inherited from Adam and Eve. The death of Jesus Christ nullifies this one. It gives opportunity for resurrection.

If Jesus nullified this one, do you state that after His nullification people stopped dying?

So when the news said these people are dead, they were joking?

https://www.nairaland.com/7388874/bandits-attack-hospital-kill-two

https://www.nairaland.com/7386113/rico-left-die-hands-helpless

And these are the deaths the occurred after your supposed nullification..

It may be recoverable if people deceived you but you are surely doomed if and when you deceive yourself.

Dtruthspeaker:


If Jesus nullified this one, do you state that after His nullification people stopped dying?

So when the news said these people are dead, they were joking?

https://www.nairaland.com/7388874/bandits-attack-hospital-kill-two

https://www.nairaland.com/7386113/rico-left-die-hands-helpless

And these are the deaths the occurred after your supposed nullification..

It may be recoverable if people deceived you but you are surely doomed if and when you deceive yourself.

You don't have to say anything if you have zero idea about what's being discussed.