LoveKing:

@toba

you tryna tell us we are all products of Inbreeding except Jesus?

did u read any of my posts on this thread? If u did there's a part i said we have the first Adam and the second Adam

The first Adam brought sin and death into the world, whilst second Adam brought resurrection and life. Not ordinary life but life unto eternity.

Quit humiliating yourself by making silly things up, dude. You're turning yourself into a joke.

toba:

did u read any of my posts on this thread? If u did there's a part i said we have the first Adam and the second Adam

The first Adam brought sin and death into the world, whilst second Adam brought resurrection and life. Not ordinary life but life unto eternity.

Jenwitemi:

Quit humiliating yourself by making silly things up, dude. You're turning yourself into a joke.

Guy dont forget that im a Man, cos this ur obsession will get u nowhere. Im not a gay.

More than more than 3 people that have posted on this same thread agreed with my views but ur inability to read have prevented u from seeing this.

Ok i stand to be corrected. Kindly express ur views on the subject matter if u are indeed serious

The Midrash and the Conflict of Adam and Eve with Satan both record that the real motive involved the desire of women. According to Midrashic tradition, Cain and Abel each had twin sisters, whom they were to marry. The Midrash records that Abel's promised wife was the more beautiful. Cain would not consent to this arrangement. Adam proposed to refer the question to God by means of a sacrifice. God rejected Cain's sacrifice, signifying His disapproval of his marriage with Aclima, and Cain slew his brother in a fit of jealousy

Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cain_and_Abel

Of course you do not [b]have [/b]to accept the Midrash. However it is traditional and proposes answers to the questions. Your own prerogative is to ask questions.

One purpose of religion is to make you ask questions.

@inesqor
Nice contribution, there are several other books which complement/ explains the stories in genesis in more detail, however since they were not 'canonised' as part of the bible some 'christians' would want to crucify you for referring to these other sources.

@Pastor Kun:

Hey Kunle Oshob right? Good afternoon bro.

Personally I have no qualms with referring to some of the non-canonized books so long as they do not misrepresent the truth that I can agree with in my heart. Some of them, I read and my spirit disagrees. One size does not fit all though, some other person might find (any) inspiration in them.

It is very interesting when you see christians trying to explain passages in the bible that don't make sense!!! They twist and turn and wooble and still come out more confusing. It is a specialty called apologetics!! It is like a lawyer of Phillip Morris trying to explain that cigarettes are not harmful I feel deep inside them, they know they don't make sense. More puzzles? Cain went and built a city! A city? Populated by who? Do the authors of Genesis know what a city is?

smdh at your response.i think its about that we considered most atheists here as frivolous folks. u seem never to be logical when reasoning along with the theists. your indoctrination to your belief has made u guys to be lopsided. have tried reading the logical reasoning put up on this thread as to why Cain's wives could have been a descendant of Adam? i don't think u did. do your self that favour and then come back to ask questions as a genuine seeker

Cain's wife was either a sister of his, or a niece, or a cousin. It was his relative, i guess that's what you want to hear to give you joy. Even Abraham married his relative. God did not tell them to not do that for obvious reasons.
We all receive instructions both general and specific, from our superiors and parents. Come inside, go to school, go to bed, go and work etc. And we do understand what it means to disobey and when it's not disobedience. I know God gave us all the gift of common sense(although some lost it, some don't use it, some misuse it etc)

@ Toba, Toba, do not let these unbelieving people stress you. They do not want to listen but only want to talk BUT one thing that is sure here is that you are not really endowed with intelligence. Your argument is too weak.

THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TWO CREATION IN THE BIBLE IF ONLY PEOPLE WOULD CARE TO LOOK IT UP WITHOUT BIAS.
FIRST CREATION BY GOD AND THE SECOND BY THE LORD GOD.

WOULD EXPATIATE IF I HAVE THE TIME.

bethor. theres no problem with u sharing with us in specific terms. I'm trying to be logical using deductive reasoning to interpret what i have read in both gen 1 and 2. it would be absurd for anyone to yarn bs without providing alternative view

lol folks are privy to all sorts of wierd doctrine.

look, at the time of Adam and eve, people could only marry their sisters and cousins. Preferable cousins, as people increased on earth.
(Sarah was Abraham's cousin).


Though some hill billies still practice this and are made fun of, in truth we all came from one genome seed many generations ago, everyone is essentially everyone's cousin in some way, though thankfully with very distant genes so as not to create "abominations"

Bethor:

THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN TWO CREATION IN THE BIBLE IF ONLY PEOPLE WOULD CARE TO LOOK IT UP WITHOUT BIAS.
FIRST CREATION BY GOD AND THE SECOND BY THE LORD GOD.

WOULD EXPATIATE IF I HAVE THE TIME.

i don't want to believe that your truly first post on nl is an heresy?

Bethor:

FIRST CREATION BY GOD AND THE SECOND BY THE LORD GOD.

Is 'GOD' a different Deity from 'THE LORD GOD'?

WOULD EXPATIATE IF I HAVE THE TIME.

Without bias, please do.

2buff:

lol folks are privy to all sorts of wierd doctrine.

look, at the time of Adam and eve, people could only marry their sisters and cousins. Preferable cousins, as people increased on earth.
(Sarah was Abraham's cousin).

False. . .According to the bible she was his half sister. . .They had the same dad but different mothers. . .

And predecssors of the different mother would have been sisters/ aunts of other parent's predecessors at some point, hence my point still holding valid.

This is why he wasn't [b]really [/b]lying when he told Pharoah and the other ruler that she was his sister. (he did this twice)

All the details of creation is recorded in the bible in the book of Genesis 1:1-31 through to Genesis 2:1-3 and it end there.

Man was created last after all other creation were perfected by God.

In Genesis 1:11-13

“011:And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.”

012:And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.”

013:And the evening and the morning were the third day.”


This section gave the account of the creation of all herbs and plants on earth and thus was completed on the third day.


In Genesis 1:26-31

“026:And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

027:So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

028:And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

029:And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

030:And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

031:And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.”

This section gave the account of human creation which was the last of all God creation done on the sixth day and rested on the seventh day.

This are the account of the first creation.




Now the second creation if you read carefully changed tune and either you like it or not was the beginning of the creation of another breed of individuals which the Lord God wanted to create and have them worship him. It’s like breeding a new race to fit into an individual’s master plan. This second creation was the creation that gave birth to Adam and Eve and it was from this line that the Jews breed was selected after many series of elimination and selection.
In the days of old, there are two types of people, the Gentiles and Jews.

Now read through Genesis 2:4-9

“004:These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,

005:And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.

006:But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.

007:And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

008:And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

009:And out of the ground made the LORD God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.”

In this second account of creation, man was created before the plant and herbs of the earth(See Vs 5-9) which completely contradict the first account of creation.

I would continue later…,

yada yada yada. Pointless stuff really. . . 
God created everything. end of story.

Ever read all the books of the gospel? (Mathew, Mark, Luke, John)
Some things happen before the other in some of them and some things happen twice.
Wouldn't then say there were referring to 2 Jesus'. Remember these were books written by people from their own witness perspectives all really pointing to the same major view.

I think Bethor's claims are spurious and he does not have a valid point here.

The LORD God is a translation of "Yahweh" which is the name used in genesis 2 while God is a translation of "Elohim (plural, the powerful ones)" which is the name used in Genesis 1.

Genesis 1 and 2 are descriptions from two different perspectives: a priestly, poetic one (Genesis 1) that reaffirms God's universal grandeur and sovereignty from a telescopic view; and a [b]functional [/b]one (Genesis 2) that takes a closer look at God's [b]personal [/b]relationship with man: man even has a name!

What i want is for those who have alternative views on the subject to show us if both gen 1 and gen 2 contradicts regarding the first man that was created not being adam.

It doesn't
back to work all of you!

I think the obvious fundamental error religious people make is to try and pass the Genesis account as history!!  It is obviously not.  Look at it this way.  It is obviously not an eye witness account.  The account is being sold as if there was some 'guardian reporter' around jotting down notes as God was doing his thing   At best, Both Gen 1 and Gen2 are just ideas some stone age goat rearers who thought they were smart dreamt up.  Maybe they will claim to have been hearing voices or seeing things ( I guess after inhaling smoke from some burning bush! )  Whatever it was, it could not have been an eye witness account, or it will mean there were other people before adam.  And who ever wrote it did a poor job of it.  I have read analyses which detail more than one thousand errors in Genesis alone!!  The Cain wives issue is just one of them.

As an atheist, u are 'selling' an idea to us that the biblical creation account could be false. never mind we take solace in reading our bible and believe so much in our God. however, its imperative to state here that atheists that believes so much in evolution thats not a fact arent better than xtians or are they? were any of the atheists present when the universe did evolve? was there any detailed account by eye witness as to when the universe began? so theres every possibility that atheists and theists are working with or by faith

Cain’s Wife—Who Was She?

Cain's Wife

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@Bethor
Genesis 2v8 and 15 are saying about the same thing. So from your direction, which occured first or do we have a third creation too? Were the trees planted after Adam was placed in Eden? Were those rivers positioned after? And so on.
Is this the result of seminary or english class?

@Image123,

My brother from another mother Tell them o!