Dtruthspeaker:


It is no dodging when I said "it is exactly what it is and it should be".

Secondly, I know that you have heard about it and it is the very greatly reduced version you would have. Thus, you do not know that that class can take a whole month to learn all of it. And in the end when asked about it, you would find it very hard to answer because whatever you say would be doing unjustice to the topic as it would be greatly shortchanged.

So, by your willingness to quickly speak, you do not truly know what the Fear of God Truly and wholistically is.

In one sentence, explain the 'fear of the Lord'
Stop jumping around
If you cannot, ask me to do so

Aemmyjah:


In one sentence, explain the 'fear of the Lord'
Stop jumping around
If you cannot, ask me to do so

Since you already claim to know, then there is no need.

Dtruthspeaker:


Since you already claim to know, then there is no need.

Nothing wrong is learning from people's opinions

Aemmyjah:


Nothing wrong is learning from people's opinions

True.

This is what your friend Templee333 has in mind against all our brothers:

Templee333:
every individual in the jw org is suffering from mental disorder. Anyone who suddenly comes to his senses will leave the society at once.

Aemmyjah:


See as you de dodge
I can answer that question with few words and an illustration
Bible no too hard bro

do you mean illustration like when saul invoked the soul of late prophet samuel through the medium and communicated with him? or illustration like the rich man burning in fire and lazarus in the bossom of Abraham? bro go on with ur illustrations from bible...

Templee333:
do you mean illurtration like when saul invoked the soul of late prophet samuel through the medium and communicated with them? or illustration like the rich man burning in fire and lazarus in the bossom of Abraham? bro go on with ur illustrations from bible...

Your comments have been read and ignored
TY for thank you

MaxInDHouse:
This is what your friend Templee333 has in mind against all our brothers:

He's like a rebellious student that was expelled from a school or he dropout
He has no other school to admit to
He sees his mates are enjoying the school and happy and he thinks they are mad cos they are not in his shoes

Aemmyjah:
Last night, I went to charge phone is a neighbors place cos the generator was on. I went there and I noticed things were different.
The outside door was locked. I knocked and she kept saying 'Who is there?' I was surprised cos they simply just open cos they knew who it will be at that time of the night. I did not reply but she kept asking again until she stopped asking. I knocked again but was asked the same question, I told them it was me, Emmanuel.
They opened for me and I charged. She (a very mature lady) asked me if I heard of the man that died yesterday as he lived in the same house but in a different flat and I said yes. She then asked if I was scared. I almost laughed but I said no. I then understood everything that happened: The fear of the dead.

I remember that growing up, I used to have this terrible fear of the dead and death, I hate such stories of dead people and the movies I watch won't make me sleep. If someone dies, I sleep like someone is hunting me. I was just fearful
But when I studied the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses about the condition of the dead, the fear left me. Every molecule of such fear left me so much that I even stopped fearing other people and animals. I learned the truth about the dead and it set me free.
I just thank Jehovah for divine truths, I can even go and sleep next to that man on the same bed and even cross my body over his and I won't fear anything... The dead are unconscious. They can't do what the living can do. They can't harm or help us. They have no thought or knowledge. They don't know who loved or hated them, who were their friends or enemies or who are owning them money. They are simply DEAD.

There are different doctrines and opinions and philosophies concerning the dead, death but all cannot be true right?

Who can tell us the truth about death and the dead? It is Jehovah God as he knows everything, he is the source of life and he can tell us what happens when we die

Where can we find answers to that question? It is found in Ecclesiastics 9:4-6, 10:

4.There is hope for whoever is among the living, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun
10.Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

The dead are unconscious, we can't help or feed them and they can't help us. No need to fear them, pay mass for them or appease them or give them food or wine or observe expensive things for them. Those who know the truth of the dead are free from fear and financial expenses or them. They are not suffering somewhere or in a hellfire or purgatory. They are sleeping in the grave and in God's due time, he will resurrect them. What a hope!

Now I can walk through a cemetery with no fear

The dead person steps out of his body into the higher dimension!
His body is unconscious but he is fulling living and aware!

TenQ:

The dead person steps out of his body into the higher dimension!
His body is unconscious but he is fulling living and aware!

Read Ecclesiastes 9:5-10, compare to what all those Jesus resurrected from the dead then come back when you're through!

TenQ:

The dead person steps out of his body into the higher dimension!
His body is unconscious but he is fulling living and aware!

Kindly prove that from the Bible
How can a DEAD person step out from his UNCONSCIOUS body and still be FULLY LIVING and AWARE?!

What you've said is contradictory

He's quoting from what Nollywood movies showed him!

Aemmyjah:

Kindly prove that from the Bible
How can a DEAD person step out from his UNCONSCIOUS body and still be FULLY LIVING and AWARE?!
What you've said is contradictory

MaxInDHouse:



Read Ecclesiastes 9:5-10, compare to what all those Jesus resurrected from the dead then come back when you're through!

Aemmyjah:


Kindly prove that from the Bible
How can a DEAD person step out from his UNCONSCIOUS body and still be FULLY LIVING and AWARE?!

What you've said is contradictory

You are in contradiction bro!

Mark 12:27
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

God is NOT the God of the dead, but of the LIVING!

Does God cease to be your God when you die?

TenQ:


You are in contradiction bro!

Mark 12:27
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

God is NOT the God of the dead, but of the LIVING!

Does God cease to be your God when you die?

Luke 20:37, 38
But that the dead are raised up, even Moses made known in the account about the thornbush, when he calls Jehovah ‘the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.’
38He is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for THEY ARE ALL LIVING TO HIM. ”

Read the context of the verse you dropped. Jehovah did not tell Moses that 'I was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob' but he put it in the present tense because they are not dead in his viewpoint, they are still living to him as his faithful worshippers and he will bring them back to life


You have still not shown us where Bible says dead person leave the unconscious body and still living and aware

Aemmyjah:



Luke 20:37, 38
But that the dead are raised up, even Moses made known in the account about the thornbush, when he calls Jehovah ‘the God of Abraham and God of Isaac and God of Jacob.’
38He is a God, not of the dead, but of the living, for THEY ARE ALL LIVING TO HIM. ”

Read the context of the verse you dropped. Jehovah did not tell Moses that 'I was the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob' but he put it in the present tense because they are not dead in his viewpoint, they are still living to him as his faithful worshippers and he will bring them back to life


You have still not shown us where Bible says dead person leave the unconscious body and still living and aware

As of this time when Jesus was speaking, was Abraham, Isaac and Jacob physically dead or not?

TenQ:

As of this time when Jesus was speaking, was Abraham, Isaac and Jacob physically dead or not?

Lol, they were long dead
But in God's memory, they were living to him and he will bring them back to life soon as well as all faithful servants who have died like Daniel and Job past and present
John 5:28,29 and Job 14:13-15

TenQ:

You are in contradiction bro!
Mark 12:27
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”
God is NOT the God of the dead, but of the LIVING!
Does God cease to be your God when you die?

They are not living anywhere but since their names are in God's memory book {Revelations 20:15} nothing can stop their resurrection back to life {John 5:28-29} so from God's viewpoint it's like He is watching them in videos always {Luke 20:38} as He remember them and ready to bring them back to life. Job 14:13-15

So they are all DEAD in their graves NOT living anywhere for now {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10} until the day of resurrection but their names are already in God's memory book, that's what Jesus meant not that their spirit is living anywhere!

MaxInDHouse:


They are not living anywhere but since their names are in God's memory book {Revelations 20:15} nothing can stop their resurrection back to life {John 5:28-29} so from God's viewpoint it's like He is watching them in videos always {Luke 20:38} as He remember them and ready to bring them back to life. Job 14:13-15

So they are all DEAD in their graves NOT living anywhere for now {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10} until the day of resurrection but their names are already in God's memory book, that's what Jesus meant not that their spirit is living anywhere!

What is the criteria to be in God's memory book?

MaxInDHouse:


They are not living anywhere but since their names are in God's memory book {Revelations 20:15} nothing can stop their resurrection back to life {John 5:28-29} so from God's viewpoint it's like He is watching them in videos always {Luke 20:38} as He remember them and ready to bring them back to life. Job 14:13-15

So they are all DEAD in their graves NOT living anywhere for now {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-10} until the day of resurrection but their names are already in God's memory book, that's what Jesus meant not that their spirit is living anywhere!

I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

REINCARNATION!

sonmvayina:

What is the criteria to be in God's memory book?

TenQ:

I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

This is your comment:

TenQ:

The dead person steps out of his body into the higher dimension!
His body is unconscious but he is fulling living and aware!

So if all dead are conscious then what makes Abraham, Isaac and Jacob special?

Aemmyjah:

Lol, they were long dead
But in God's memory, they were living to him and he will bring them back to life soon as well as all faithful servants who have died like Daniel and Job past and present
John 5:28,29 and Job 14:13-15

He said the dead leaves their lifeless bodies and step out consciously then rushed to quote Jesus calling his father the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
So where is the preference if all the dead are alive somewhere?

MaxInDHouse:


He said the dead leaves their lifeless bodies and step out consciously then rushed to quote Jesus calling his father the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob because He is not the God of the dead but of the living.
So where is the preference if all the dead are alive somewhere?

That's why I asked him to clarify from the Bible. The one he gave is totally unfitting

MaxInDHouse:
REINCARNATION!

Dummy..

You think you have said anything intelligent...

I have told him countless times that the Bible belongs to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so no matter how serious they are unless they come to us they can never understand anything in our book: Bible!

Aemmyjah:

That's why I asked him to clarify from the Bible. The one he gave is totally unfitting

Ọ̀gbẹ́ni go and ask your Jewish landlord to teach you joh this is between those that have interest in the words of Jesus Christ not your Jewish TORAH or TANAK!

sonmvayina:

Dummy..
You think you have said anything intelligent...

MaxInDHouse:


This is your comment:

So if all dead are conscious then what makes Abraham, Isaac and Jacob special?

Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!

You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

What makes Abraham Isaac and Jacob special if all dead people do step out of their lifeless bodies and continue with their consciousness?

TenQ:

Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!

You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

MaxInDHouse:
What makes Abraham Isaac and Jacob special if all dead people do step out of their lifeless bodies and continue with their consciousness?

Lets keep this a respectful conversation. I answered your questions, NOW, please answer my three questions before posting another question: except its supposed to be a monologue.

AGAIN:
I said (in answering your question): Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!


You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

My Questions are highlighted in YELLOW

So in what way is Abraham Isaac and Jacob special out of all dead people in the past?

You've not answered the question!

TenQ:

Lets keep this a respectful conversation. I answered your questions, NOW, please answer my three questions before posting another question: except its supposed to be a monologue.

AGAIN:
I said (in answering your question): Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!


You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

My Questions are highlighted in YELLOW

MaxInDHouse:
So in what way is Abraham Isaac and Jacob special out of all dead people in the past?

You've not answered the question!

I even repeated the answer in my last post to you. Here is it again in COLOUR BLUE.


Lets keep this a respectful conversation. I answered your questions, NOW, please answer my three questions before posting another question: except its supposed to be a monologue.

AGAIN:
I said (in answering your question): Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!


You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

My Questions are highlighted in YELLOW

You've not answered the question!

Is it the same God that created your forefather who worshiped idols before the white man brought the Bible?
Is your forefather still living somewhere after stepping out of his lifeless body?
If YES is your answer to the above then what makes Abraham, Isaac and Jacob special than your ancestor who also died and stepped out of his lifeless body just like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

I won't teach you what Jesus meant there unless you humbly request a Bible study but if you're OK with what you think you know then let the matter rest. But know that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are descendants of Adam {Romans 5:2} they're not worthy of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so just like all other descendants of Adam they are DEAD awaiting resurrection in their graves.

As for why God keeps calling Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob i will not teach you unless you humbly request a Bible study from us: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

TenQ:

I even repeated the answer in my last post to you. Here is it again in COLOUR BLUE.


Lets keep this a respectful conversation. I answered your questions, NOW, please answer my three questions before posting another question: except its supposed to be a monologue.

AGAIN:
I said (in answering your question): Yahweh is the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This is a true statement even in physical death!


You did not answer my THREE Questions:
1. God was speaking to MOSES about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!
2. Jesus said: God is NOT the God of the Dead but of the Living.

I said:
I know of the Book of Life!
Where did you get the Term "God's Memory Book" in the Bible?

Is God's memory book the book of the DEAD?

Jesus Expressly said:
Mark 12:26-27
26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

If they were DEAD and LIFELESS, why did Jesus say:
27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!

My Questions are highlighted in YELLOW