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The Devil Is Fully In The Church by LocalStandard1(m): 12:06pm On Nov 29, 2022
Pls be patient and read on.

The "Church is the Christian gathering" not a man made building. No no!!
The Bible describes the Devil as the wisest creature created by God. While growing up I've asked myself "how can we outsmart and defeat such being then?" But Jesus said "I know my own and my own know me.... when they hear my voice they will gather". But how do you hear Christ's voice? You may ask.

His words!

He said "I will write my words in their hearts"!

Well, if you are a Christian, if you believe the words of God let me tell you, the Devil himself is in charge of modern "Churches". And that is through his Demon called Mammon. Matthew 6:24 Luke 16:13-14. Mammon is the money spirit.

It is Jesus who you too claim to follow saying these. Christianity has no business with prosperity Gospel. Matthew 6:19–20.

A Pastor claimed if you don't pay your tithe you're going to hell. Where in the Bible is that stated? They lie and twist the Bible to rake in more money for self. Are they even using the tithes the way moses instructed in Deuteronomy 14:28-29? And tithes in the Old testament is not your money but agricultural produce. Yes money did existed, read here Deuteronomy 14:23-27.

I will not call out names but your "Pastors", especially the Pentecostal ones all lying to you. They are all after money.

That's why they rephace, misquote and requote the words of God the way it suits them, but our God is not a child that doesn't know what he is saying. These charlatans will not change cos some don't even know, others are demonic and some are blinded by the Devil's other spirit, PRIDE.

The Bible is literal and the words of God, not your Pastors' interpretation is what you should believe.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTfKpAWkgJY&list=WL&index=13

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Aladdin1(m): 12:35pm On Nov 29, 2022
True!

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Dtruthspeaker: 12:44pm On Nov 29, 2022
Catholic church was probably the first.

Then the others like jw (anti-catholic) thereafter came. Today, it is those devils who call themselves atheists.

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Courz: 2:01pm On Nov 29, 2022
Satan is everywhere. Do not underestimate his craftiness. The Bible already said he transforms himself into an Angel of Light and his followers do the same. So, expect to see him manifest his devices in churches that appear wholesome but are Wolves in sheep clothing. Don't expect Satan to focus on unbelievers alone. He is working tirelessly on Believers and he has succeeded. But it won't be for long as more and more people become awake to see all Satanic influences and Satanic symbols in Christianity. Be very wary of those religions that boast too much about themselves and criticise others. That attitude alone isn't Christian. They are machinations of Demons. Satan loves Boastful attitudes and believes that will help to lure more people to himself. Empty vessels make the loudest noise. Be very wary of those whose doctrines are very far from Christianity and have a history of False Prophecies.

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by atheistconverta: 3:10pm On Nov 29, 2022
Lol! Code - mammon - Templar (@codetemplar) come and see yourself here.

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 3:21pm On Nov 29, 2022
LocalStandard1:
Pls be patient and read on.

The "Church is the Christian gathering" not a man made building. No no!!
The Bible describes the Devil as the wisest creature created by God. While growing up I've asked myself "how can we outsmart and defeat such being then?" But Jesus said "I know my own and my own know me.... when they hear my voice they will gather". But how do you hear Christ's voice? You may ask.

His words!

He said "I will write my words in their hearts"!
When Jesus Christ spoke of His Church, He spoke of those who do the Will of God, that is those who entered into the Kingdom of God via the Narrow Gate that leads to True Life. And Jesus Christ is the Truth and the Life - John 14 vs 6. Jesus Christ is that gate(Narrow Gate) and He alone is the good Shepherd --- every other shepherd are not good implied ---- over those who belong to Him - John 10 vs 1 - 16. Those those who belong to Him are taught, not by men, but by the Father Himself- John 5 vs 43 - 47 and they are those who abide in Him and Him in them --- the ones He loves - John 15 vs 1 - 11 undecided

Your earthly churches have their foundation in that which is not Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 3:54pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
When Jesus Christ spoke of His Church, He spoke of those who do the Will of God, that is those who entered into the Kingdom of God via the Narrow Gate that leads to True Life. Jesus Christ is that gate(Narrow Gate) and He alone is the good shepherd over those who belong to Him - John 10 vs 1 - 16. Those those who belong to Him are taught, not by men, but by the Father Himself- John 5 vs 43 - 47 and they are those who abide in Him and Him in them --- the ones He loves - John 15 vs 1 - 11 undecided

Your earthly churches have their foundation in that which is not Jesus Christ. undecided
You started well and ended badly as usual. Jesus Christ didn't send you to be doing what you are doing.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 3:59pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

You started well and ended badly as usual. Jesus Christ didn't send you to be doing what you are doing.
Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?, undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 4:07pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?, undecided

Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 4:09pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:
Revelation 22:18-19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Try to pay attention! undecided

Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?, undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 4:19pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
Try to pay attention! undecided

Actually, this is what Jesus Christ Himself taught to His disciples. Everything I said there is found right there in the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the very same Law which Jesus Christ sent His followers to teach to those who are in the world. So the question is why do you who claim to be of Jesus Christ not know any of this?, undecided
I think your question is actually supposed to be directed to yourself because you preach against Jesus Christ and His words. You condemn the church of Christ and you stand against the truth in the word of God.

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 4:24pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

I think your question is actually supposed to be directed to yourself because you preach against Jesus Christ and His words. You condemn the church of Christ and you stand against the truth in the word of God.
I am afraid you are deluded. undecided

In no way have I condemned the Church of Jesus Christ. Instead, what I cast as not being of Jesus Christ are the churches of men which use the name of Jesus Christ to sell their lies - doctrines and traditions. Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against your pastors and mogs and their lies - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 calling them the thieves who come to steal and kill the fat sheep and destroy hos flock using His name - John 10 vs 7 - 15. So again, the question remains why do you who claim to believe in Jesus Christ not know the Truth as taught by the one you call savior? undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 4:34pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
I am afraid you are deluded. undecided

In no way have I condemned the Church of Jesus Christ. Instead, what I cast as not being of Jesus Christ are the churches of men which use the name of Jesus Christ to sell their lies - doctrines and traditions. Jesus Christ Himself warned His followers against your pastors and mogs and their lies - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13 calling them the thieves who come to steal and kill the fat sheep and destroy hos flock using His name - John 10 vs 7 - 15. So again, the question remains why do you who claim to believe in Jesus Christ not know the Truth as taught by the one you call savior? undecided
Alright then. Which church here on earth do you belong to or which church do you advise people to attend that is not church of men?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:38pm On Nov 29, 2022
LocalStandard1:

The Bible describes the Devil as the wisest creature created by God.

NO! Satan is only intelligent but not wise.
If he is wise he will fear God! Proverbs 9:10 smiley

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Aemmyjah(m): 4:42pm On Nov 29, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


NO! Satan is only intelligent but not wise.
If he is wise he will fear God! Proverbs 9:10 smiley

You'd have asked him to show you in the scriptures where Bible says that.
Some people just lie against the Bible
If Satan is the wisest, what about Jesus Christ who was described as the wisdom of God?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 4:44pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

Alright then. Which church here on earth do you belong to or which church do you advise people to attend that is not church of men?
If none of the churches of men here on earth, all of them steeped in the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, GBs, popes, babalawos, etc.), belong to Jesus Christ, how does belonging to any one of them help me where Jesus Christ is concerned? undecided

Jesus Christ never commanded His disciples to build your churches using His name, neither did He command His own to attend your earthly church services using His name. The Matthew 18 where Jesus Christ advices His followers to come together as last resort in order to resolve possible issues that may exist between individuals that belong to His church is the only official command from Jesus Christ. So, try not to confuse Churchianism with that which is of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:58pm On Nov 29, 2022
Aemmyjah:

You'd have asked him to show you in the scriptures where Bible says that.
Some people just lie against the Bible
If Satan is the wisest, what about Jesus Christ who was described as the wisdom of God?

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa my brother, the guy didn't lie rather he guffed. Liars are deliberate but i don't think this person did that with evil intention. So all he needs is a mild correction.

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Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 7:16pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
If none of the churches of men here on earth, all of them steeped in the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, GBs, popes, babalawos, etc.), belong to Jesus Christ, how does belonging to any one of them help me where Jesus Christ is concerned? undecided

Jesus Christ never commanded His disciples to build your churches using His name, neither did He command His own to attend your earthly church services using His name. The Matthew 18 where Jesus Christ advices His followers to come together as last resort in order to resolve possible issues that may exist between individuals that belong to His church is the only official command from Jesus Christ. So, try not to confuse Churchianism with that which is of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. undecided
Okay. Do you have anyone who you come together with to pray, study the Bible and do the work of God? If there is any, please can you share about this group so we can atleast know where you belong.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 7:26pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:
1. Okay. Do you have anyone who you come together with to pray,
2. study the Bible 3. and do the work of God?
4. If there is any, please can you share about this group so we can atleast know where you belong.
1. But Jesus Christ never asked any of His disciples to pray together with anyone else. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ that the only way to pray and have God answer you is when you pray in secret and in hiding - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15. So of what essence are these public prayer sessions you lot engage in? undecided

2. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to study scripture with anyone. As a matter of fact, He instead told them that it is only when they use the understanding they have been given ---- not the understanding or opinion of others ---- that more understanding will be given to them by the Father - Matthew 13 vs 12 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 24 & Matthew 25 vs 29. So, again, what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ? undecided

3. According to Jesus Christ, the Helper whom the Father sends to His followers --- the Spirit of Truth, the same Spirit who lives inside of Jesus Christ --- is the only Helper His followers require. He alone will lead each to do the work which God has for them - John 14 vs 15 - 17 & John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15 - so, again, of what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ? undecided

4. The only group I belong to ---- the only one worth belonging to ---- is the Church of Jesus Christ over whom Jesus Christ Himself is the only Teacher, Master/Head, Authority/Leader, Shepherd, Helper,.... etc., and that church has absolutely nothing to do with any of your churches in this world. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 7:50pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. But Jesus Christ never asked any of His disciples to pray together with anyone else. As a matter of fact, Jesus Christ that the only way to pray and have God answer you is when you pray in secret and in hiding - Matthew 6 vs 6 - 15. So of what essence are these public prayer sessions you lot engage in? undecided

2. Jesus Christ never asked His disciples to study scripture with anyone. As a matter of fact, He instead told them that it is only when they use the understanding they have been given ---- not the understanding or opinion of others ---- that more understanding will be given to them by the Father - Matthew 13 vs 12 & Mark 4 vs 22 - 24 & Matthew 25 vs 29. So, again, what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ? undecided


3. According to Jesus Christ, the Helper whom the Father sends to His followers --- the Spirit of Truth, the same Spirit who lives inside of Jesus Christ --- is the only Helper His followers require. He alone will lead each to do the work which God has for them - John 14 vs 15 - 17 & John 14 vs 25 - 27 & John 15 vs 26 - 27 & John 16 vs 4 - 15 - so, again, of what good is it for anyone to do that which contradicts the very commandments of Jesus Christ while pretending it is all for the sake of Jesus Christ? undecided

4. The only group I belong to ---- the only one worth belonging to ---- is the Church of Jesus Christ over whom Jesus Christ Himself is the only Teacher, Master/Head, Authority/Leader, Shepherd, Helper,.... etc., and that church has absolutely nothing to do with any of your churches in this world. undecided
Alright. What do you think about the 7 churches mentioned in the book of revelations. Is Jesus Christ against them gathering. Also the churches visited by the apostles. Is Jesus Christ against anyone of them? Were they supposed to be standing alone just like you are doing?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 8:01pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:
1. Alright. What do you think about the 7 churches mentioned in the book of revelations.

2. Is Jesus Christ against them gathering. Also the churches visited by the apostles.

3. Is Jesus Christ against anyone of them? Were they supposed to be standing alone just like you are doing?
1. Those are references. to the collection of all believers living within the specified town or district e.g. all people who believe in Jesus Christ who also live in Sokoto or Lagos, and not to your church businesses of today set up and organized by men. undecided

2. If you read carefully what John wrote in Revelations, He didn't say anything about Jesus Christ asking them to gather. As for what the disciples did, Jesus Christ never said His followers are to follow the examples of His disciples. Instead, He made clear instead that those who belong to Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25. So saying the disciples did this means nothing since I am not a follower of the disciples but of Jesus Christ. undecided

3. I don't know what Jesus Christ felt about them at any of the points written since Judgement day is still at the end for them and also for me --- the disciples are still in their graves to this day waiting for Jesus Christ to return and judge their works ---- so it would be foolish of me to place my bet on the disciples and not on Jesus Christ alone. So long as I am in compliance with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ , He is always living with me, so I am not alone at all after He taught that He abides inside of everyone of His followers who abide in Him - John 15 vs 7 - 11. So, it doesn't really matter how many humans you have around you. What matters is instead whether you are living your life in compliance with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ , the one who is your ou Teacher, Master, Helper, Shepherd, Guide....etc., in the Kingdom of God. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 8:10pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Those are references. to the collection of all believers living within the specified town or district e.g. all people who believe in Jesus Christ who also live in Sokoto or Lagos, and not to your church businesses of today set up and organized by men. undecided

2. If you read carefully what John wrote in Revelations, He didn't say anything about Jesus Christ asking them to gather. As for what the disciples did, Jesus Christ never said His followers are to follow the examples of His disciples. Instead, He made clear instead that those who belong to Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience of His teachings and commandments - John 14 vs 15 - 25. So saying the disciples did this means nothing since I am not a follower of the disciples but of Jesus Christ. undecided

3. I don't know what Jesus Christ felt about them at any of the points written since Judgement day is still at the end for them and also for me --- the disciples are still in their graves to this day waiting for Jesus Christ to return and judge their works ---- so it would be foolish of me to place my bet on the disciples and not on Jesus Christ alone. So long as I am in compliance with the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, it does not matter whether I am alone or not since at the end, He will judge me and me alone for my works. undecided
Alright. What can you say about the verse below?
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by LocalStandard1(m): 8:11pm On Nov 29, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


NO! Satan is only intelligent but not wise.
If he is wise he will fear God! Proverbs 9:10 smiley
Genesis 3:1, NLT: The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the LORD God had made....

I wrote "the wisest creature" not being. No where was Satan described as "intelligent" but wise or shrewd.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by LocalStandard1(m): 8:14pm On Nov 29, 2022
Aemmyjah:


You'd have asked him to show you in the scriptures where Bible says that.
Some people just lie against the Bible
If Satan is the wisest, what about Jesus Christ who was described as the wisdom of God?

Genesis 3:1, NLT: The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the LORD God had made....

I am not here to argue and banter with you. When you meet me in politics section there I might have that time.
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 8:19pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

Alright. What can you say about the verse below?
Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
As the title of the letter clearly informs you, the letter is addressed specifically to the believers who are of Jewish descent as God’s commandment for a holy assembly was given to the Israelites by God in places such as Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8. These gatherings are to be held on select Holy days commanded by God and so the author of the letter to the Hebrews encourages His Jewish brethren who also happen to be Christians not to forsake the gathering to the brethren on those holy day proclaiming it an opportunity to encourage those who do not believe among them. undecided

Do not, however, confuse that advice from the author of the Letter to the Hebrews for the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God. That stated in Hebrew -- and God in Leviticus 23. --- applies in the Land of Israel according to Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Whereas the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Gospel and New Covenant Law applies in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 8:30pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
As the title of the letter clearly informs you, the letter is addressed specifically to the believers who are of Jewish descent as God’s commandment for a holy assembly was given to the Israelites by God in places such as Leviticus 23 vs 4 - 8. These gatherings are to be held on select Holy days commanded by God and so the author of the letter to the Hebrews encourages His Jewish brethren who also happen to be Christians not to forsake the gathering to the brethren on those holy day proclaiming it an opportunity to encourage those who do not believe among them. undecided

Do not, however, confuse that advice from the author of the Letter to the Hebrews for the Gospel teachings of Jesus Christ, the Law in the Kingdom of God. That stated in Hebrew -- and God in Leviticus 23. --- applies in the Land of Israel according to Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. Whereas the teachings of Jesus Christ, the Gospel and New Covenant Law applies in the Kingdom of God, a Kingdom not of this world. undecided
In the Bible, every believer gathered with the brethren where they broke bread together; prayed together; studied together etc. Why are you deciding to be alone in your Christian journey?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 8:43pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

In the Bible, every believer gathered with the brethren where they broke bread together; prayed together; studied together etc. Why are you deciding to be alone in your Christian journey?
First of, I already explained to you that I do only that commanded by Jesus Christ in His name. I don't need to do as others do. I need to do only that which Jesus Christ commands in His name. undecided

Second, who are my brethren? According to Jesus Christ, they are those who live their those in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Will of God in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made it so that not just anything will do. Recall that Jesus Christ even went as far as disavow even His own mother in Matthew 12 vs 48 - 50 & Mark 3 vs 31 - 35 - for this purpose. undecided

Again, I am not alone. I have my Teacher, Master, Shepherd, Leader/Guide, Helper...etc, with me every step of the way. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is ever really alone. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 8:47pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
First of, I already explained to you that I do only that commanded by Jesus Christ in His name. I don't need to do as others do. I need to do only that which Jesus Christ commands in His name. undecided

Second, who are my brethren? According to Jesus Christ, they are those who live their those in continuous submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Will of God in the Kingdom of God. Jesus Christ made it so that not just anything will do. Recall that Jesus Christ even went as far as disavow even His own mother in Matthew 12 vs 48 - 50 & Mark 3 vs 31 - 35 - for this purpose. undecided

Again, I am not alone. I have my Teacher, Master, Shepherd, Leader/Guide, Helper...etc, with me every step of the way. No one who belongs to Jesus Christ is ever really alone. undecided
Okay. Apart from you, Is there anyone else Jesus Christ is pleased with since we all attend church services? Will that make us go to hell?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 9:01pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:
1. Okay. Apart from you, Is there anyone else Jesus Christ is pleased with since we all attend church services?
2. Will that make us go to hell?
1. Churchianism --- the religion of church attendances and services lead by pastors and mogs ---- is built on a foundation that is set on the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, popes, GBs, priests, etc.), lies which Jesus Christ warned nullify the power of God in the lives of those who follow such lies, rendering their worship of God in vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. So, no one who is a follower of Jesus Christ would get entangled in such a belief system along with any of its many rituals which make void their worship of God.. undecided

2. According to Jesus Christ's teachings, even those who will end up in Hellfire are all born-again but rather than entering the Kingdom of God through the Narrow Gate, they pass in through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction at the end - John 3 vs 1 -8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. In addition, Jesus Christ emphatically stated that those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments meaning that all those who don't obey His teachings and commandments, choosing instead to submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men, don't belong to Him and their end is most definitely not Heaven.. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Texcyndy: 9:09pm On Nov 29, 2022
Kobojunkie:
1. Churchianism --- the religion of church attendances and services lead by pastors and mogs ---- is built on a foundation that is set on the doctrines and traditions of men(pastors, mogs, popes, GBs, priests, etc.), lies which Jesus Christ warned nullify the power of God in the lives of those who follow such lies, rendering their worship of God in vain - Matthew 15 vs 1 - 14 & Mark 7 vs 1 - 13. So, no one who is a follower of Jesus Christ would get entangled in such a belief system along with any of its many rituals which make void their worship of God.. undecided

2. According to Jesus Christ's teachings, even those who will end up in Hellfire are all born-again but rather than entering the Kingdom of God through the Narrow Gate, they pass in through the Broad Gate which leads to destruction at the end - John 3 vs 1 -8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. In addition, Jesus Christ emphatically stated that those who love Him are those who obey His teachings and commandments meaning that all those who don't obey His teachings and commandments, choosing instead to submit themselves to the doctrines and traditions of men, don't belong to Him and their end is most definitely not Heaven.. undecided
In that case, does it then mean that you are the only one who obeys Jesus Christ and the rest of us are disobedient children?
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by Kobojunkie: 9:17pm On Nov 29, 2022
Texcyndy:

In that case, does it then mean that you are the only one who obeys Jesus Christ and the rest of us are disobedient children?
According to Jesus Christ, "By their fruits ye shall know them - Matthew 7 vs 15 - 23 - [those who belong to Him from those who do not belong to Him]." And He made abundantly clear that those who belong to Him are those who live their lives in continuous submission and obedience to His teachings and commandments; this cannot be hidden or mimicked from sight not even from those in the world. undecided

I don't worry about whether I am the only one or not. Afterall, Jesus Christ asked at a certain point if He would find the faithful in the world when He returned. Instead, my focus is on believing in Him ---- the work we are to do as detailed in John 6 vs 25 - 35 - in order that we may be made just by Him - John 17 vs 16 - 19. undecided

It is your choice whether you will accept what He says and do as He commands. Not my place to worry whether you do or not. undecided
Re: The Devil Is Fully In The Church by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18pm On Nov 29, 2022
LocalStandard1:

Genesis 3:1, NLT: The serpent was the shrewdest of all the wild animals the LORD God had made....
I wrote "the wisest creature" not being. No where was Satan described as "intelligent" but wise or shrewd.

You're referring to another creature @ Genesis 3:1 not the spirit creature that possessed the serpent. They are two different creatures not the same for instance Jesus instructed JWs to be as CAUTIOUS as serpent and HARMLESS as dove {Matthew 10:16} of course he wasn't telling us to imitate Satan nah?

So it was the shrewd creature in the garden of Eden that a rebellious angels (Satan) possessed but as for Satan himself he is not a WISE person because for anyone to be wise he must first have the fear of God! Proverbs 9:10

Thanks!

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