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Jws And Death Acquittal by Sand2022: 6:32pm On Dec 08, 2022
JWs understanding of Rom 6:7 has led to more problems for their doctrine. As a saying goes... "One theological error leads to another". I do respect churches and their right to their own understanding. We all grow in learning.

The JW say that since Rom 6:7 says that he who has died has been acquitted or freed from his sin, it means that when that one gets resurrected, God cannot judge him based on his past life. As such, John 5:28,29 can't be understood to mean that these persons will be judged based on their past life before resurrection. This has also lead them to another error that one of the scrolls mentioned at Rev 20:12-13 must be a teaching manual to instruct the resurrected persons during Christs 1000 year reign, so as to furnish God with another basis to judge people. There are still other scriptures that has been affected by this understanding.

One error leads to another.

First ROM 6:7 is not even contextually talking about physical death, but spiritual death. If you die to your former way of life, your sins has been acquitted, simple. They are rather inputting a secondary meaning to this scripture. Even if we were to look at it secondarily, will it rather not mean that when one dies eternally, he has fully paid for his sins? Yes because the wages of sin is death, but this death is obviously an eternal death, not a temporary death. When one dies, without any hope of resurrection, that is the full pay for his sins. Not when he dies and had to be resurrected for judgment. He has not fully paid for his sins. If after judgment, he is found guilty, he is killed eternally. That is his wages.
Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by Janosky: 9:14pm On Dec 08, 2022
Sand2022:
JWs understanding of Rom 6:7 has led to more problems for their doctrine. As a saying goes... "One theological error leads to another". I do respect churches and their right to their own understanding. We all grow in learning.

The JW say that since Rom 6:7 says that he who has died has been acquitted or freed from his sin, it means that when that one gets resurrected, God cannot judge him based on his past life. As such, John 5:28,29 can't be understood to mean that these persons will be judged based on their past life before resurrection. This has also lead them to another error that one of the scrolls mentioned at Rev 20:12-13 must be a teaching manual to instruct the resurrected persons during Christs 1000 year reign, so as to furnish God with another basis to judge people. There are still other scriptures that has been affected by this understanding.

One error leads to another.

First ROM 6:7 is not even contextually talking about physical death, but spiritual death. If you die to your former way of life, your sins has been acquitted, simple. They are rather inputting a secondary meaning to this scripture. Even if we were to look at it secondarily, will it rather not mean that when one dies eternally, he has fully paid for his sins? Yes because the wages of sin is death, but this death is obviously an eternal death, not a temporary death. When one dies, without any hope of resurrection, that is the full pay for his sins. Not when he dies and had to be resurrected for judgment. He has not fully paid for his sins. If after judgment, he is found guilty, he is killed eternally. That is his wages.


Is Romans 6:1-7 say anything about "spiritual" death?"

No.

Based on faulty logic,Is God going to resurrect,then judge & punish Adam again when Genesis 3:19 & Romans 6:7 is in your Bible?
This Sand typing GIBBERISH
. grin
Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:06pm On Dec 08, 2022
Janosky:


Is Romans 6:1-7 say anything about "spiritual" death?"

No.

Based on faulty logic,Is God going to resurrect,then judge & punish Adam again when Genesis 3:19 & Romans 6:7 is in your Bible?
This Sand typing GIBBERISH
. grin

Instead of asking he chose to call his cohorts who are all unfit to stand JWs in scriptural knowledge.
Let him create another form of punishment for SIN apart from DEATH! Romans 6:23 wink

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Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by Sand2022: 4:51pm On Dec 10, 2022
Janosky:


Is Romans 6:1-7 say anything about "spiritual" death?"

No.

Based on faulty logic,Is God going to resurrect,then judge & punish Adam again when Genesis 3:19 & Romans 6:7 is in your Bible?
This Sand typing GIBBERISH
. grin

This guy sef. Did you even read the bible portion? See what your publication says:

" is different with the spirit-begotten brothers of Jesus Christ. Why? Because, as the apostle Paul explains:

“Do you not know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? Therefore we were buried with him through our baptism into his death, in order that, just as Christ was raised up from the dead through the glory of the Father, we also should likewise walk in a newness of life. For if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death, we shall certainly also be united with him in the likeness of his resurrection; because we know that our old personality was impaled with him, that our sinful body might be made inactive, that we should no longer go on being slaves to sin. For he who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”​—Rom. 6:3-7.

These, then, have figuratively “died.” After they have the benefits of Christ’s sacrificial death for their sins applied to them, they are declared or ‘counted’ righteous. (Rom. 5:1, 18; 8:30) Their fleshly bodies, with their old personalities, are counted as impaled with Christ. They are then spiritually begotten by God, giving them hope of life in the spirit. (John 3:5-cool "

Is this clear? You will argue it.

Secondly, did you notice " counted righteous" and "spiritually begotten"?. It means that only these members of 144000 are considered sons of God. The benefit of the ransom is applied to them even now. But other witnesses are much like persons without sonship effect of the ransom applied to them. They will only get that benefit of the ransom after 1000 years as the JW understand Rev 20;5.

That is also why only them eat the emblem because they are the only sons of God on earth.

Learn to understand a comment and provide constructive criticism. I don't even know if you understand the teaching of the WT.

It appears you newly learned the meaning of gibberish. Is this how you respond when you meet people at the doors?

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Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:21pm On Dec 10, 2022
Sand2022:

That is also why only them eat the emblem because they are the only sons of God on earth.

YES! They were bought as first fruit of God's Kingdom so they go with Christ everywhere he goes as the spiritual Jews.

So we who are of the "other sheep" fold {John 10:16} will grab their skirt for our own salvation {Zechariah 8:23} God has given them the Kingdom {Luke 12:32} therefore whoever fails to recognize them is on his own! Matthew 25:34-46 smiley
Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by Sand2022: 6:09pm On Dec 10, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


YES! They were bought as first fruit of God's Kingdom so they go with Christ everywhere he goes as the spiritual Jews.

So we who are of the "other sheep" fold {John 10:16} will grab their skirt for our own salvation {Zechariah 8:23} God has given them the Kingdom {Luke 12:32} therefore whoever fails to recognize them is on his own! Matthew 25:34-46 smiley

Thanks for confirmation.
Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by Dtruthspeaker: 6:31pm On Dec 10, 2022
Janosky:


Based on faulty logic,Is God going to resurrect,then judge & punish Adam again when Genesis 3:19 & Romans 6:7 is in your Bible?
This Sand typing GIBBERISH[/b]. grin

The Bible warns that every work/deed is going to be judged and Adam was only judged for one work which is "heartening unto his wife in contravention of The Law" (Genesis 3:17) and not for the other works he must do after this one.

Therefore, Adam is also going to resurrect to account for the remainder of his deeds.
Re: Jws And Death Acquittal by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:57pm On Dec 10, 2022
Sand2022:

Thanks for confirmation.
You're welcome Sir! smiley

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