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Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by ejimatic: 12:47pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aiel123:

Wike isn't fighting for any south... Okowa is a southerner. Adeleke is , same as Udom, Ihedioha and others. You should be able to recognize an interest battle when you see one.
. Can I ask why you think that Okowa is working in the interest of the South? What would he do if he was not chosen as the VP?
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by SeeItSayIt: 12:54pm On Dec 12, 2022
He could have been justified only if he was able to publish what he brought to the table in those five times meeting with Wike ' cos he can't insist on his stand & expect Wike to bend while they both have interest.

The truth is Atiku is arrogant, desperate & selfish though to Nigerians favour which makes us to currently have only one able candidate in person of H.E Peter Obi.

Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Aiel123: 12:58pm On Dec 12, 2022
ejimatic:
. Can I ask why you think that Okowa is working in the interest of the South? What would he do if he was not chosen as the VP?
Simple, support whosever emerges as VP. He is not known for anti party act.
PDP threw her presidential ticket open and a northerner emerged: a southern VP is needed to complete the ticket of which Okowa was chosen.
I never said Okowa is working for South interest,I only mentioned those names because the are southerners like Wike and have no grouse whatever with Atiku's candidacy.
Had Wike voiced against PDP throwing it's presidential ticket open,then I would have no doubt he is for the interest of southern Nigeria but hell no...He was silent until after the primary.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by lukency(m): 1:12pm On Dec 12, 2022
Wike feel betrayed by the event which unfolded at the venue of the PDP presidential primary where Tambuwal dumped him for his Northern brother.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by ejimatic: 1:34pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aiel123:

Simple, support whosever emerges as VP. He is not known for anti party act.
PDP threw her presidential ticket open and a northerner emerged: a southern VP is needed to complete the ticket of which Okowa was chosen.
I never said Okowa is working for South interest,I only mentioned those names because the are southerners like Wike and have no grouse whatever with Atiku's candidacy.
Had Wike voiced against PDP throwing it's presidential ticket open,then I would have no doubt he is for the interest of southern Nigeria but hell no...He was silent until after the primary.
.Thank you for your analysis.Are yiu by any means staying that PDP did not zone it to the South when Fayose and Wike claimed it was zoned only for Tambuwal to align with Wike on the election day? Wike agter loss demanded the resignation of Ayu in the interst of the South . While other South govenors in PDP cared less he belived the South must be fully represented. I stand to be corrected!
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Odidigboigbo(m): 1:38pm On Dec 12, 2022
Steviealohan:
And what happened when atiku abandoned Jonathan in 2015? U reason like a baby,can PDP national expelled someone under the state chairman? Or have you asked urself why vp osibanjo took his ward registration off from lagos to his hometown in ogun?cos he knew tinubu controles lagos and he can influence his expulsion from his ward hereby rendering his candidacy void..Anyways the last time I checked PDP rivers state no send dem papa wike de oil dem,u do anyhow u collect and his candidate most win..
You are far from this game, the state exco is answerable to the National exco, mark my words, the state exco will be pulled from Wike after the election, as Gbenga Daniel how Kashimu was used against him and the party structure was removed from his control. The same will happen and there are many willing tools to use in Rivers State.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Coronavirus1: 1:44pm On Dec 12, 2022
3verblazing:
Patiently waiting for wike's response. grin
Did Atiku implement wike request the answer is no so no solution
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Aiel123: 1:44pm On Dec 12, 2022
ejimatic:
.Thank you for your analysis.Are yiu by any means staying that PDP did not zone it to the South when Fayose and Wike claimed it was zoned only for Tambuwal to align with Wike on the election day? Wike agter loss demanded the resignation of Ayu in the interst of the South . While other South govenors in PDP cared less he belived the South must be fully represented. I stand to be corrected!
PDP threw it open... It was a free for all competition.(Presidential primary) This is a fact.
Now on Wike's call for Ayu's resignation, it's necessary but ill timed. Aside that,Ayu is being used as a proxy fight... Atiku's camp want AYU to stay while Wike wants otherwise. There's some difference that's said to be irreconcilable The Atiku's group, dominated the party compared to the Wike's faction. Atiku and co is saying Ayu will resign after the election but Wike don't won't it.
Now tell me,if you were an Atiku who would you lean towards between the two camp, bearing in mind that the people fronting Ayu to stay are more dominant than the other group?

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Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Aiel123: 1:47pm On Dec 12, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
You are far from this game, the state exco is answerable to the National exco, mark my words, the state exco will be pulled from Wike after the election, as Gbenga Daniel how Kashimu was used against him and the party structure was removed from his control. The same will happen and there are many willing tools to use in Rivers State.
If you wouldn't mind,I will like you to explain further.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Odidigboigbo(m): 2:19pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aiel123:

If you wouldn't mind,I will like you to explain further.
What I'm trying to tell you is that, those you thought are answerable to Wike today are doing so because he is still in government, once he left, loyalty will change. The influence you thought he has today over the state exco won't be there anymore.
And any willing tools can be used then to pull the party structure from him and his nemesis will start from there
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Aiel123: 2:21pm On Dec 12, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
What I'm trying to tell you is that, those you thought are answerable to Wike today are doing so because he is still in government, once he left, loyalty will change. The influence you thought he has today over the state exco won't be there anymore.
And any willing tools can be used then to pull the party structure from him and his nemesis will start from there
Ok.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by 3verblazing(m): 2:37pm On Dec 12, 2022
Coronavirus1:

Did Atiku implement wike request the answer is no so no solution
Atiku is not trustworthy!
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by ekanx27(m): 3:08pm On Dec 12, 2022
Iwin2:


Is it wike that can be trusted??
A man that is too egocentric, boasted before the primaries that he will never accept the position of a vice-presidential candidate, why is he out to destroy the party now that a preferred person was chosen
Sorry is it Tinubu that can be trusted, everything about him is controversial and negative


I agree that non of these politicians can be trusted but what the G-5 are doing to Atiku, Atiku did more to GEJ. That's why I always tell people to treat every part of their towel equally because the part that wiped the anus today might be the part to wipe the face tomorrow.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by ejimatic: 3:26pm On Dec 12, 2022
Aiel123:

PDP threw it open... It was a free for all competition.(Presidential primary) This is a fact.
Now on Wike's call for Ayu's resignation, it's necessary but ill timed. Aside that,Ayu is being used as a proxy fight... Atiku's camp want AYU to stay while Wike wants otherwise. There's some difference that's said to be irreconcilable The Atiku's group, dominated the party compared to the Wike's faction. Atiku and co is saying Ayu will resign after the election but Wike don't won't it.
Now tell me,if you were an Atiku who would you lean towards between the two camp, bearing in mind that the people fronting Ayu to stay are more dominant than the other group?
. There are more people on Atiku's side trully! Wike claimed that Ayu will not go after election and South will be outside the decision making body of PDP.What is yiur take on this.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Aiel123: 3:36pm On Dec 12, 2022
ejimatic:
. There are more people on Atiku's side trully! Wike claimed that Ayu will not go after election and South will be outside the decision making body of PDP.What is yiur take on this.
It's true. Atiku's camp are much more than the Wike's faction in PDP.
On the second point, I would have said that Udom and Okowa will represent the south in the decision making process of the party giving their position as Chairman of the party campaign PCC and VP but a nairalander I engaged previously, said that those post are just there that the decision making process consist of the DG, Presidential candidate and national chairman. I don't really know because I don't have an idea on the working of PDP in the aspects of who makes decision.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Whoknowsme: 7:53pm On Dec 12, 2022
OLADD:

The next president of your clan. Obi would fight to take third position in the elections if he decides not to step down.
Nobody has monopoly of being the next president. Every candidate is entitled to contest and not step down for anyone. Get it right.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by chrisxxx(m): 8:02pm On Dec 12, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
Is it Atiku that appoint Ayu? What happens if after resignation by Ayu and Atiku loses? Wike must not always have his way, let's see what becomes of him after election. The BOT has pacified him and every elders in the party, he refused. If I happened to be in Atiku Shoes, I won't begged him anymore even if I lose the election. Let's see what happened after the election. After the election either PDP win or loses, Wike will be expelled and he knows it.
The only thing that will stop Atiku from being expelled is if he wins. Remember he is the one who has gone contrary to BOT recommendations. Wike is making a legitimate demand in line with the party constitution. It is there in black and white. If the presidential candidate comes from the north the chairman comes to the South it is not postponed till daybreak.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Odidigboigbo(m): 9:08pm On Dec 12, 2022
chrisxxx:

The only thing that will stop Atiku from being expelled is if he wins. Remember he is the one who has gone contrary to BOT recommendations. Wike is making a legitimate demand in line with the party constitution. It is there in black and white. If the presidential candidate comes from the north the chairman comes to the South it is not postponed till daybreak.
On the contrary, BOT recommendations was that Ayu should resigned after the election and warned both party not to speak on the matter again in public, which Wike has flagrantly abused.
There is nothing in the constitution that says a presidential candidate and the party chairman should not come from the same zone.
What's in the Constitution is that a "President and the the National Chairman" shall not come from the same zone. If it's in the constitution, Wike and his group would have gone to court to enforce that rather than preaching "agreement" up and down. Since he has been talking, have you ever heard him mentioned constitution?
Be informed before you go public.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by chrisxxx(m): 9:28pm On Dec 12, 2022
Odidigboigbo:
On the contrary, BOT recommendations was that Ayu should resigned after the election and warned both party not to speak on the matter again in public, which Wike has flagrantly abused.
There is nothing in the constitution that says a presidential candidate and the party chairman should not come from the same zone.
What's in the Constitution is that a "President and the the National Chairman" shall not come from the same zone. If it's in the constitution, Wike and his group would have gone to court to enforce that rather than preaching "agreement" up and down. Since he has been talking, have you ever heard him mentioned constitution?
Be informed before you go public.
Party gerrymandering sometimes goes by gentleman agreement and not necessarily constitutional. Ayu gave his words that should a northern win the primary he would resign. What is there to tell Ayu to be gentleman enough to walk the thin rope of his words? Ayu said so.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Odidigboigbo(m): 9:38pm On Dec 12, 2022
chrisxxx:

Party gerrymandering sometimes goes by gentleman agreement and not necessarily constitutional. Ayu gave his words that should a northern win the primary he would resign. What is there to tell Ayu to be gentleman enough to walk the thin rope of his words? Ayu said so.
Can you proves that? Show us a video or audio tape of Ayu saying that. If at all Ayu said that and Wike bought the statement, that proves that Wike is a toddler in Politics; who holds a politician with his words? How many promised has Wike made, how many of them has he fulfilled?
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by chrisxxx(m): 10:18pm On Dec 12, 2022
8 no
Odidigboigbo:
Can you proves that? Show us a video or audio tape of Ayu saying that. If at all Ayu said that and Wike bought the statement, that proves that Wike is a toddler in Politics; who holds a politician with his words? How many promised has Wike made, how many of them has he fulfilled?
In essence you are advising Wike to never believe the rapprochement drive of Atiku right?
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by Odidigboigbo(m): 10:35pm On Dec 12, 2022
chrisxxx:
8 no
In essence you are advising Wike to never believe the rapprochement drive of Atiku right?
Politics is a game, if you loses, you withdraw and restrategies, you may be lucky next time; except you have chosen to end your career, that is when you will destroyed the whole thing because you failed. In politics, Minority which Wike and his group belongs to,5 have their say but the majority have their way.
Either PDP win or not, Wike won't find it funny after the election, it would have been better if he stands aloof, or decamped than this childish character.
Re: PDP Crisis: I Met Wike Five Times Without Solution – Atiku by lecowas: 4:43am On Dec 13, 2022
Iwin2:


What is a small test?
You want Atiku to sack a democratically elected officer with a definite mandate?? How do you force him to resign, how can Atiku force wike and his group to shift ground??
Atiku doesn't have the power to fire but will continue to engage and appeal to them all. If they all have concerns for the rescue of Nigeria from APC disastrous government they should close rank

This is it with Nigeria. Tough decisions have to be made to move forward. Atiku should choose like a man and not act confused ... We can't afford another teddy bear up there in Aso Rock

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