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I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 9:46am On Dec 27, 2022
Before stating my Church of birth let me walk you through how I came to this realization. This is going to be quite the read.

2020 when the lockdown was in place we went to the Church to get some palliatives. You know, I enthusiastically and optimistically told our hired driver "don't worry theres plenty even you would get". The driver isn't a Christian but I was confident cos we were going to the Church where there's love, right?

Well we got to the Church, note I was a worker in the Church. We were refused entry into the Church and left outside waiting for almost an hour before I disappointedly told the driver to go, and I too left angrily after sometime.

See, I have been asking serious questions. What is a Church?
It is the gathering of Christ's believers and followers, guided by the unadulterated words of God.

I discovered that most Churches today are not a gathering of believers for Christ Jesus bonded together by the love for God and brethren. It is a devilish agenda built on self interest and self gratification. The Churches of today have managed to completely push aside the true words of God and replace them with the PROSPERITY GOSPEL and self gratification.

Many Pastors are not Christian Biblical teachers but CEOs of corporations they nickname Churches. Check the way they organize their ministries, same as any large business or company. That is why "Daddy GOs" hand over to their children, that is why their is no rules and regulations built on the words and warnings of God and the Bible. Everything goes except money issues.

These people talk down and reject Apostle Paul's teachings and warnings. These people misquote and reassign words of Jesus Christ. These people do not teach the GOSPEL OF CHRIST but THE LAWS OF ATTRACTION. That is why Pentecostal Churches have the highest rate of divorce and complete moral decadence in the society, that is why it has now become norm for a Pastor to be caught or accused of adultery or divorce.

These people open the Bible and teach the laws of attraction where it fits. These people are the richest and wealthiest in the society, their schools can not be attended by the average congregants. These people have put women on the puppets to "preach" or "teach" the same words that reject such. These people have built "Churches" on all streets yet there are homeless people on the same streets, and they shot their gates on them for the night. These people have legitimised out-of-wedlock activities and abortions.

The Devil is quite a genius!

Say what you want about my Church of birth but they teach the words and Gospel of Christ. Abominable practices and such are rejected and punished if found guilty, like a loving community. A woman knows what and who she is and so does a man, elders handle marital issues and reconcile parties involved. If one among the believeers has serious problems they gather together and donate to the person. A BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH . A loving community of believers looking out for each other.

I was born into an ECWA Church (Evangelical Church Winning All), an Orthodox or Evangelical Church. I have missed that true Christianity and I am going back.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 9:55am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:
Before stating my Church of birth let me walk you through how I came to this realization. This is going to be quite the read.

2020 when the lockdown was in place we went to the Church to get some palliatives. You know, I enthusiastically and optimistically told our hired driver "don't worry theres plenty even you would get". The driver isn't a Christian but I was confident cos we were going to the Church where there's love, right?

Well we got to the Church, note I was a worker in the Church. We were refused entry into the Church and left outside waiting for almost an hour before I disappointedly told the driver to go, and I too left angrily after sometime.

See, I have been asking serious questions. What is a Church?
It is the gathering of Christ's believers and followers, guided by the unadulterated words of God.

I discovered that most Churches today are not a gathering of believers for Christ Jesus bonded together by the love for God and brethren. It is a devilish agenda built on self interest and self gratification. The Churches of today have managed to completely push aside the true words of God and replace them with the PROSPERITY GOSPEL and self gratification.

Many Pastors are not Christian Biblical teachers but CEOs of corporations they nickname Churches. Check the way they organize their ministries, same as any large business or company. That is why "Daddy GOs" hand over to their children, that is why their is no rules and regulations built on the words and warnings of God and the Bible. Everything goes except money issues.

These people talk down and reject Apostle Paul's teachings and warnings. These people misquote and reassign words of Jesus Christ. These people do not teach the GOSPEL OF CHRIST but THE LAWS OF ATTRACTION. That is why Pentecostal Churches have the highest rate of divorce and complete moral decadence in the society, that is why it has now become norm for a Pastor to be caught or accused of adultery or divorce.

These people open the Bible and teach the laws of attraction where it fits. These people are the richest and wealthiest in the society, their schools can not be attended by the average congregants. These people have put women on the puppets to "preach" or "teach" the same words that reject such. These people have built "Churches" on all streets yet there are homeless people on the same streets, and they shot their gates on them for the night. These people have legitimised out-of-wedlock activities and abortions.

The Devil is quite a genius!

Say what you want about my Church of birth but they teach the words and Gospel of Christ. Abominable practices and such are rejected and punished if found guilty, like a loving community. A woman knows what and who she is and so does a man, elders handle marital issues and reconcile parties involved. If one among the believeers has serious problems they gather together and donate to the person. A BIBLE BELIEVING CHURCH . A loving community of believers looking out for each other.

I was born into an ECWA Church (Evangelical Church Will All), an Orthodox or Evangelical Church. I have missed that true Christianity and I am going back.

What is wrong with the Law of Attraction?

Kindly enlighten me.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by muyico(m): 9:56am On Dec 27, 2022
U ha from north? I tinkz zo!! Northerner christian? U guyz need intervention of holy spirit not human being teaching! U guyz were the hrdest christian we ve in nigeria, my thy lord guard u and protect you guyz!

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Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by obiekunie01: 10:01am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:


I was born into an ECWA Church (Evangelical Church Will All), an Orthodox or Evangelical Church. I have missed that true Christianity and I am going back.

oga ecwa church is no longer that way!

they now preach prosperity like the new generation churches. they even collect offerings more than some of the new generation churches. they collect as much as 5 offerings in a service.

ecwa church pastors worship the vry rich members of the church quite unlike in the days of yore whn no matter how rich u r, the pastor will tell you your misdoings to your face.

i even wonder the last time you went to ecwa church.


even catholic, anglican, redeemed, deeperlife, coccin, nkst, they have all lost it. THE HOLY SPIRIT HAVE LEFT THE CONGREGATIONS.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:03am On Dec 27, 2022
oteneaaron:

What is wrong with the Law of Attraction?
Kindly enlighten me.
You see, there are some doctrines and popular believes of man that a Christian should not indulge in, Apostle Paul warned us about it. Yoga, L. of A., karma ideology etc. These stuffes as far as I know have there roots in Buddhism or Hinduism. They are not Christian. Thank you.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:06am On Dec 27, 2022
obiekunie01:

oga ecwa church is no longer that way!
they now preach prosperity like the new generation churches. they even collect offerings more than some of the new generation churches. they collect as much as 5 offerings in a service.
ecwa church pastors worship the vry rich members of the church quite unlike in the days of yore whn no matter how rich u r, the pastor will tell you your misdoings to your face.
i even wonder the last time you went to ecwa church.
even catholic, anglican, redeemed, deeperlife, coccin, nkst, they have all lost it. THE HOLY SPIRIT HAVE LEFT THE CONGREGATIONS.
You are right, sadly. But unlike these other ones there is still the spirit and true words of God being taught there.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 10:06am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:

You see, there are some doctrines and popular believes of man that a Christian should not indulge in, Apostle Paul warned us about it. Yoga, L. of A., karma ideology etc. These stuffes as far as I know have there roots in Buddhism or Hinduism. They are not Christian. Thank you.

You still didn't answer my question.

What is wrong with the Law of Attraction?

Also, what does the Law of Attraction mean to you?
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:09am On Dec 27, 2022
muyico:
U ha from north? I tinkz zo!! Northerner christian? U guyz need intervention of holy spirit not human being teaching! U guyz were the hrdest christian we ve in nigeria, my thy lord guard u and protect you guyz!

Amen bro. The love of God and neighbor is diming and growing cold, the love of the world and money seems to be taking over, sadly.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:11am On Dec 27, 2022
oteneaaron:

You still didn't answer my question.
What is wrong with the Law of Attraction?
Also, what does the Law of Attraction mean to you?
How deep do you want me to go here?

Prosperity Gospel is the same as the law of attraction, they are man made religion, I am a Bible believing Christian. These other doctrines are selfish and false rooted in other believes and religion.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 10:12am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:

How deep do you want me to go here?

Prosperity Gospel is the same as the law of attraction, they are man made religion, I am a Bible believing Christian. These other doctrines are selfish and false rooted in other believes and religion.

Can you kindly define the Law of Attraction?
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:14am On Dec 27, 2022
oteneaaron:

Can you kindly define the Law of Attraction?
Can you? Pls help me out.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 10:15am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:

Can you? Pls help me out.

I asked first.

You said the Law of Attraction is bad.

I want to understand your definition of this law.

Is that too much to ask?
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:20am On Dec 27, 2022
oteneaaron:

I asked first.
You said the Law of Attraction is bad.
I want to understand your definition of this law.
Is that too much to ask?
Okay.

The law of attraction is the New Thought spiritual belief that positive or negative thoughts bring positive or negative experiences into a person's life. The belief is based on the idea that people and their thoughts are made from "pure energy" and that like energy can attract like energy, thereby allowing people to improve their health, wealth, or personal relationships. There is no empirical scientific evidence supporting the law of attraction, and it is widely considered to be pseudoscience.

That is from Wikipedia.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 10:27am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:

Okay.

The law of attraction is the New Thought spiritual belief that positive or negative thoughts bring positive or negative experiences into a person's life.

That is from Wikipedia.

OK we are getting somewhere.

So thinking positive thoughts to see positive results in our life is wrong - according to you.

So please tell me, as a Christian, why did the Bible ask you to think only positive thoughts?



Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable —if anything is excellent or praiseworthy —think about such things.



Can you kindly explain?

Thanks.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by LocalStandard1(m): 10:37am On Dec 27, 2022
oteneaaron:

OK we are getting somewhere.
So thinking positive thoughts to see positive results in our life is wrong - according to you.
So please tell me, as a Christian, why did the Bible ask you to think only positive thoughts?
Can you kindly explain?
Thanks.
You see, these law of attraction has been so popular and incoporated into our Christian believes that we now think they are the same with what the Bible is saying. Read the verse you presented again.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable —if anything is excellent or praiseworthy —think about such things.

The other worldly belief system is just that, worldly. And it teachs you to aspire or think about absolutely anything you want or desire, that is not what the Bible says, but that is what modern Pastors preach. Prosperity Gospel => The Law of Attraction.
Re: I Regret Ever Leaving My Church Of Birth by oteneaaron(m): 10:57am On Dec 27, 2022
LocalStandard1:

You see, these law of attraction has been so popular and incoporated into our Christian believes that we now think they are the same with what the Bible is saying. Read the verse you presented again.

Philippians 4:8 Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable —if anything is excellent or praiseworthy —think about such things.



You are still saying the same thing.

Positive thoughts = Postive Results.

You can not desire to marry a faithful wife and all you think about is banging hoes and runs girls.

That is why it is called a Law - it is just like mathematics.

Like causes can only produce like effects.

The other worldly belief system is just that, worldly. And it teachs you to aspire or think about absolutely anything you want or desire, that is not what the Bible says, but that is what modern Pastors preach. Prosperity Gospel => The Law of Attraction.

Are you sure about this?

As a Christian, are you not aware that Jesus taught the same thing?

St. Mark 11:24 Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours.

Notice the key phrases

- WHATEVER YOU ASK

- BELIEVE THAT YOU HAVE RECIEVED IT

Some translations say -

- WHATSOEVER YE ASK

- BELIEVE THAT YE RECIEVE IT

Is this not the Law of Attraction?

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