If students can pass their exams in flying colours without studying, would they be motivated to study hard for exams?

If APC is reelected into office despite the current state of Nigeria, what would be their motivation to perform when they know Nigerians would reelect them even if they score very low in terms of Job performance?

Can you stand a fallen breast

Definitely!

Asiwaju is a believer of continuity which is not hidden.

Asiwaju will capitalize on Buhari’s achievements, and same time steer Nigeria away from foreign dependency!

Asiwaju has made possible IPP before, and that shows he is aware about the economic benefit of power. Asiwaju is going to exceptionally deliver! That I can guarantee!

Also, he has this network of technocrats in his niche who are hungry to perform!

One of the senseless post .

@OP

When I see threads like your's it shows me how far Nigeria still has to go. Winners work with reality.

Simply because Party politics has institutional integrity worldwide does not. Mean we Nigerians depart from our reality to be speaking as if we are the UK, USA, France, Germany etal.

The reality is that Nigeria is still running 'one man' democracy whereby anyone who becomes President feels he can shape Nigeria as he wants without carrying as many people and as many varied interest groups along as is done in entrenched and established democracies.

You saw an example recently where Buhari and his inner Fulani trusted crew ostracized others, like Tinubu etal, to hijack the Presidency that should be an institution for sacrosanct and impartial delivery of the needs of all Nigerians.

Buhari did nothing in the name or capacity of APC. He did not respect all in the APC and created a niche clique to actualize his own sectional agenda.

To argue Buhari is APC is to show he backed Osinbajo for dealing with a Fulani clique who feel they own Nigeria, through Buhari, when Mr.President was abroad recieving medical treatment.

We of course all know what Buhari did to Osinbajo when he returned to show nothing is about the Supreme will of the Party rather than to the whims and caprices of a supreme crew running the APC as they wish simply because they control the Presidency.

Buhari's crew reported Osinbajo and our VP got a 'know your place' beat down as soon s Buhari returned to Nigeria. Even to a man drunk and high, does that sort of development show Buhari and his crew bow before the institutional superiority of the APC?

When Buhari-led FG announced "no going back on grazing route" while Tinubu declares that "open grazing no longer tenable", is that still APC politics or a crude feudalism of who controls the Presidency does what they want with it?

There are literally millions of example showing we are practicing Presidential authoritarianism in Nigeria, rather than holistic Party politics, yet people like you who should educate the masses to stop shouting APC, PDP, Labour etal are making the very same noise.

Bruv, recognize your reality, work with it and simply go for an individual with the progressive mentality to move Nigeria forward.

That is the best our reality affords us for now instead of this APC, PDP, Labour simplistic bullcrap some of you repeat tediously everyday despite the fact reality on ground should show you our sordid reality.

As a party? A vote for APC is the enabling of failure, naturally the party will become even more cocky in their incompetence, who wouldn’t?

As an individual? I’m not confident that he even knows what’s in his manifesto. 9/10 a political writer transcribed it for him and gave him sticky notes to read on the go. Debate? He won’t do, live dialogue? He won’t do. This is clearly a man too proud or ill to be answerable to the people he wants to lead.

Perhaps there’s a chance that once he gets into power, he will genuinely deliver, I can’t categorically say since I can’t see into the future however there wouldn’t be much motivation to do much more than the bare minimum, if anything at all.

They can't repair what they destroyed.

You can't use APC to Save Nigeria from the hands of APC na

@Op.

With respect to an intelligent discuss as this your topic. I will say (Apc candidate ) has really shown some negative and unattractive signs a presidential candidate should have or shown in a 21st century demoncracy and in a presidential election as this by not showing up to an independent verified debates with other candidates, public interviews ( Not Apc town hall) and proper voters engagement personally not via proxies.

For me ( my opinion please) that is a turn off and if he wins tomorrow he has successfully start a whole new trend that for you to win election in Nigeria direct voters engagement, debate, intelligent discuss with other candidate does not matter.

So back to your topic @op Apc template to win presidential elections seems to be more of "My turn" " It'z our Time to lead" " if I help you become president so you must do same irrespective of what Nigeria wants @ that time or if they are other better candidate in the same party" "Like a birth right or kingship" these turn off people like us.

The country is gradually turning to a compensation gift to the elite. Compentence , intelligent, integrity, accountability , voters enagegement, debates etc is gradually taking a back seat.

Please Nigerians vote right.

God bless Nigeria.

WITH SHETTIMA AS VP, TINUBU REQUIRES A MINISTER OF JUSTICE OF OSINBAJO 'S MENTALITY AND ASTUTENESS.

ede1:
@Op.

With respect to an intelligent discuss as this your topic. I will say (Apc candidate ) has really shown some negative and unattractive signs a presidential candidate should have or shown in a 21st century demoncracy and in a presidential election as this by not showing up to an independent verified debates with other candidates, public interviews ( Not Apc town hall) and proper voters engagement personally not via proxies.

For me ( my opinion please) that is a turn off and if he wins tomorrow he has successfully start a whole new trend that for you to win election in Nigeria direct voters engagement, debate, intelligent discuss with other candidate does not matter.

So back to your topic @op Apc template to win presidential elections seems to be more of "My turn" " It'z our Time to lead" " if I help you become president so you must do same irrespective of what Nigeria wants @ that time or if they are other better candidate in the same party" "Like a birth right or kingship" these turn off people like us.

The country is gradually turning to a compensation gift to the elite. Compentence , intelligent, integrity, accountability , voters enagegement, debates etc is gradually taking a back seat.

Please Nigerians vote right.

God bless Nigeria.

This is not an APC thing. It is a Nigerian thing or even a global thing.

Even the Igbos are shouting that it is their turn.

Our politics is coloured by religion and tribalism, all painted as zoning.

You have a country which evaluates candidates based on religion, with virtually no recourse to antecedents or potentials for achievements. Already, you have those who are committed to withholding their votes because of a Muslim-Muslim ticket. For them, nothing else matters, not even if the candidates are Abraham Lincoln and JF Kennedy.

So, don't make it seem like it is an APC thing. Our politics has always been something of a reward system.

When Obi went to LP, you think those who stepped down for him to be the party's flagbearer did so for nothing? Of course, certain rewards have been promised. Perhaps, a juicy ministerial post.

That is why even the Oyinbo say "politics is a game"

ibkayee:
As a party? A vote for APC is the enabling of failure, naturally the party will become even more cocky in their incompetence, who wouldn’t?

What do you mean by the incompetence of APC?

Or perhaps, you meant the incompetence of the Buhari administration, especially in matters of security?

As an individual? I’m not confident that he even knows what’s in his manifesto. 9/10 a political writer transcribed it for him and gave him sticky notes to read on the go. Debate? He won’t do, live dialogue? He won’t do. This is clearly a man too proud or ill to be answerable to the people he wants to lead.

Debates are pointless. Tinubu knows this.

You may want to read why this person thinks the American presidential debate is pointless:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-presidential-debates-are-pointless

Perhaps there’s a chance that once he gets into power, he will genuinely deliver, I can’t categorically say since I can’t see into the future however there wouldn’t be much motivation to do much more than the bare minimum, if anything at all.

I suppose the same can said for the other top contenders.

For example, Atiku appears to merely fighting to actualize a lifelong ambition.

Obi once compared Nigeria to a car with a knocked engine, and that you can't make the car work by simply changing the driver. I agree with Obi that our situation as a country goes beyond leadership. However, if Obi has this opinion, do you think he would be motivated to work? Certainly no.

Kwankwaso? Well, not much about him.

Why when they know they don't have to work hard to do

Benz03:
Can you stand a fallen breast

with a down payment it's possible.

BluntTheApostle:


What do you mean by the incompetence of APC?

Or perhaps, you meant the incompetence of the Buhari administration, especially in matters of security?

Inflation and food prices, children out of school, worsened national debt but definitely security especially

The same Tinubu who says he wants to 'build' on Buhari's legacy is now no longer affiliated with the administration? Did Tinubu separate Goodluck's administration from PDP when he was criticising them?

Buhari's failure is APC's failure.

Debates are pointless. Tinubu knows this.

You may want to read why this person thinks the American presidential debate is pointless:

https://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-presidential-debates-are-pointless

You want to lead a democracy but think open discussion and debating is 'pointless'. All I see is an individual with contempt for accountability.

I suppose the same can said for the other top contenders.

For example, Atiku appears to merely fighting to actualize a lifelong ambition.

Obi once compared Nigeria to a car with a knocked engine, and that you can't make the car work by simply changing the driver. I agree with Obi that our situation as a country goes beyond leadership. However, if Obi has this opinion, do you think he would be motivated to work? Certainly no.

Kwankwaso? Well, not much about him.

I haven't painted any of them as saints. Incompetence is incompetence, no matter whose regime it comes under but consecutive incompetence is less forgivable and we'll be coming off an 8 year APC rule, not PDP, NNPP or Labour.

ibkayee:

Inflation and food prices, children out of school, worsened national debt but definitely security especially

But these are blames that should go to the Buhari administration, not APC. The APC is a political party, not a government.

The FG consists of the executive (who are not all APC members), the legislative (which comprises other party members who have members in the national assembly), and the judiciary (who largely claim to be non-partisan)

This FG is led by Buhari, not the APC.

The same Tinubu who says he wants to 'build' on Buhari's legacy is now no longer affiliated with the administration? Did Tinubu separate Goodluck's administration from PDP when he was criticising them?

There are gains and pains of every administration. Tinubu wants to build on the gains of this administration.

Buhari's failure is APC's failure.

No, it is Buhari's failure. The buck stops with the president, despite the fact that there are other people who have responsibilities, but failed too (such as governors, senators, LG chairpersons and councillors).

Moreover, we were all here when Tinubu was evidently sidelined by Buhari. Some people from the other side were even mocking Tinubu, saying that Buhari used and dumped him.

You can't force a president to take your advice. You can't blame the pains of the Buhari administration on Tinubu or even the APC.

You want to lead a democracy but think open discussion and debating is 'pointless'. All I see is an individual with contempt for accountability.

If you did government, you will know the primary aim of a political party is to get power. Everything else is secondary, and anything that bears little to nothing on the actual outcome is pointless.

I haven't painted any of them as saints. Incompetence is incompetence, no matter whose regime it comes under but consecutive incompetence is less forgivable and we'll be coming off an 8 year APC rule, not PDP, NNPP or Labour.

We are coming off an 8 year of Buhari administration, not APC.

BluntTheApostle:


But these are blames that should go to the Buhari administration, not APC. The APC is a political party, not a government.

The FG consists of the executive (who are not all APC members), the legislative (which comprises other party members who have members in the national assembly), and the judiciary (who largely claim to be non-partisan)

This FG is led by Buhari, not the APC.



There are gains and pains of every administration. Tinubu wants to build on the gains of this administration.



No, it is Buhari's failure. The buck stops with the president, despite the fact that there are other people who have responsibilities, but failed too (such as governors, senators, LG chairpersons and councillors).

Moreover, we were all here when Tinubu was evidently sidelined by Buhari. Some people from the other side were even mocking Tinubu, saying that Buhari used and dumped him.

You can't force a president to take your advice. You can't blame the pains of the Buhari administration on Tinubu or even the APC.




If you did government, you will know the primary aim of a political party is to get power. Everything else is secondary, and anything that bears little to nothing on the actual outcome is pointless.




We are coming off an 8 year of Buhari administration, not APC.

Everyone knows that APC have these key institutions in their pocket. Executive? APC led. Legislative? Now APC leaning. Judiciary? Compromised and undermined.

Tinubu, the self acclaimed ‘national leader’ that campaigned for Buhari and never condemned his administration is an accomplice at the very least.

No matter how this agenda of disassociating APC and Buhari is pushed, they are all part and parcel of this failed regime. Failure is indeed an orphan.

ibkayee:

Everyone knows that APC have these key institutions in their pocket. Executive? APC led. Legislative? Now APC leaning. Judiciary? Compromised and undermined.

Tinubu, the self acclaimed ‘national leader’ that campaigned for Buhari and never condemned his administration is an accomplice at the very least.

No matter how this agenda of disassociating APC and Buhari is pushed, they are all part and parcel of this failed regime. Failure is indeed an orphan.

I don't agree with you at all.

But I am curious to know who your preferred candidate is.

BluntTheApostle:


I don't agree with you at all.

But I am curious to know who your preferred candidate is.

Fair enough.

My preferred candidate is Obi, despite this I don’t subscribe to any of that Obi is Nigeria’s messiah jargons because I don’t trust any politician and he amongst the rest all have some type of controversy attached to them. I've picked Obi because he comes across more as genuinely wanting to fix the country TO ME instead of being in it solely for power grabbing like the others. I’m also tired of rotating APC and PDP.

He could get into power and be even worse than Buhari, however he's the candidate out of the batch I'm most willing to give this chance.

ibkayee:

Fair enough.

My preferred candidate is Obi, despite this I don’t subscribe to any of that Obi is Nigeria’s messiah jargons because I don’t trust any politician and he amongst the rest all have some type of controversy attached to them. I've picked Obi because he comes across more as genuinely wanting to fix the country TO ME instead of being in it solely for power grabbing like the others. I’m also tired of rotating APC and PDP.

He could get into power and be even worse than Buhari, however he's the candidate out of the batch I'm most willing to give this chance.

Interesting. I respect your opinion.

But I think Obi does not want to fix the country. He just wants to be president.

To fix this country, we need to work very hard on one of three major things.

And that is our huge trade deficit. We import more than we export. And Obi is the biggest single importer in Nigeria. How will he reduce our trade deficit when he himself is a big importer, and one of those that destroyed our naira with their importation business? It is like expecting a generator importer to want our electricity to get better. A better electricity will affect his business.

When the likes of Dangote were going into production, Obi continued to import.

Anyways, I enjoyed having this chat with you, Ibkayee.

At the end of the day, all we all want is a better life. And I hope we get it.

Happy new year in advance. Don't forget to send my own New Year rice via Bluetooth. Don't worry about chicken, as I am a vegetarian.

BluntTheApostle:


Interesting. I respect your opinion.

But I think Obi does not want to fix the country. He just wants to be president.

To fix this country, we need to work very hard on one of three major things.

And that is our huge trade deficit. We import more than we export. And Obi is the biggest single importer in Nigeria. How will he reduce our trade deficit when he himself is a big importer, and one of those that destroyed our naira with their importation business? It is like expecting a generator importer to want our electricity to get better. A better electricity will affect his business.

When the likes of Dangote were going into production, Obi continued to import.

Anyways, I enjoyed having this chat with you, Ibkayee.

At the end of the day, all we all want is a better life. And I hope we get it.

Happy new year in advance. Don't forget to send my own New Year rice via Bluetooth. Don't worry about chicken, as I am a vegetarian.

Exactly, I hope so too

Happy new year in advance also, all the best for 2023. Alright I'll replace the chicken with boiled eggs

ibkayee:

Exactly, I hope so too

Happy new year in advance also, all the best for 2023. Alright I'll replace the chicken with boiled eggs

Great

Can you wake a dead man?

ibkayee:

Fair enough.

My preferred candidate is Obi, despite this I don’t subscribe to any of that Obi is Nigeria’s messiah jargons because I don’t trust any politician and he amongst the rest all have some type of controversy attached to them. I've picked Obi because he comes across more as genuinely wanting to fix the country TO ME instead of being in it solely for power grabbing like the others. I’m also tired of rotating APC and PDP.

He could get into power and be even worse than Buhari, however he's the candidate out of the batch I'm most willing to give this chance.

Nne this is why i love you, you don’t sugarcoat. I’m from Anambra state and believe me when I say I’ll blow my Brain off if Peter Obi doesn’t perform. I witnessed that man’s astonishing performance, he remains the best Governor of Anambra till date. You chose wisely Mi Amor.