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Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by adefitim(m): 2:46pm On Jan 01, 2023
That's Tinubu Lagos

*Addis Ababa Light Rail Project*
Span: 34Km.
Cost: $475m
number of Stations: 39
Project Tenure: 2011 - 2015
Company: China Railway Group limited

*Lagos Light Rail project*
Span: 27km
Cost: $1.5Bn
number of Stations: 13
project Tenure: 2010 - 2023
Company: China Railway Group limited.

Amount per Km Addis Ababa - $14m

Amount per Km Lagos - $55m

The Addis Ababa isn't a Light Rail in quote, it can also transport heavy duty/earth moving equipments. Let's keep celebrating mediocrity.

Credit: Megababsblog

Lalasticlala
Mynd4

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Abfinest007(m): 2:49pm On Jan 01, 2023
Corruption . Just imagine the figures

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by PandoraObi: 2:51pm On Jan 01, 2023
Bitterness and hatred

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 2:53pm On Jan 01, 2023
We prefer the expensive monorail to Peter Obi’s abandoned monorail. We also prefer the expensive monorail to voting based on kerosene and a plate of eba.

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by JoeNL22(m): 2:55pm On Jan 01, 2023
adefitim:
That's Tinubu Lagos

*Addis Ababa Light Rail Project*
Span: 34Km.
Cost: $475m
number of Stations: 39
Project Tenure: 2011 - 2015
Company: China Railway Group limited

*Lagos Light Rail project*
Span: 27km
Cost: $1.5Bn
number of Stations: 13
project Tenure: 2010 - 2023
Company: China Railway Group limited.

Amount per Km Addis Ababa - $14m

Amount per Km Lagos - $55m

The Addis Ababa isn't a Light Rail in quote, it can also transport heavy duty/earth moving equipments. Let's keep celebrating mediocrity.

Credit: Megababsblog

Lalasticlala
Mynd4

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by ovieigho(m): 2:57pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:
We prefer the expensive monorail to Peter Obi’s abandoned monorail. We also prefer the expensive monorail to voting based on kerosene and a plate of eba.

Apes Obey ….

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by owobokiri(m): 2:57pm On Jan 01, 2023
When I told them that they were celebrating mediocrity the other day over that overpriced monorail, these uncouth sons of Tinupoo started to wail like dying hyenas. To them it was tribalism. I am happy some other people are starting to say the truth.

It's the same with the overdramatized second Niger bridge.. The total amount used to build that bridge at the last count is now chasing the amount used to build a bridge 3 times the length of this one in such places like China.

Again, you can't mention this without being called names by staunch pro regime hirelings here. All these projects were started under Fashola, the same man who will go down in global history as having the record for spending the most money in constructing a kilometer of road!

Make una dey help them dey chop money anyhow.
Last last all man go dey alright..

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Mintyguy(m): 2:58pm On Jan 01, 2023
Why not compare it with the one in south east preferably the one Obi constructed during his tenure

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 3:00pm On Jan 01, 2023
adefitim:
That's Tinubu Lagos

*Addis Ababa Light Rail Project*
Span: 34Km.
Cost: $475m
number of Stations: 39
Project Tenure: 2011 - 2015
Company: China Railway Group limited

*Lagos Light Rail project*
Span: 27km
Cost: $1.5Bn
number of Stations: 13
project Tenure: 2010 - 2023
Company: China Railway Group limited.

Amount per Km Addis Ababa - $14m

Amount per Km Lagos - $55m

The Addis Ababa isn't a Light Rail in quote, it can also transport heavy duty/earth moving equipments. Let's keep celebrating mediocrity


Abfinest007:
Corruption . Just imagine the figures

The Bangladesh �� metro is a “matter of pride for us”, PM. Sheikh Hasina

It cost of $2.8bn, largely funded by Japanese.
System length: 21.26 km (13.21 mi)(completed)

While..
Tinubu's Lagos - System length: 27km (22 mi) (planned) cost $1.5b

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 3:00pm On Jan 01, 2023
owobokiri:
When I told them that they were celebrating mediocrity the other day over that overpriced monorail, these uncouth sons of Tinupoo started to wail like dying hyenas. To them it was tribalism. I am happy some other people are starting to say the truth.

It's the same with the overdramatized second Niger bridge.. The total amount used to build that bridge at the last count is now chasing the amount used to build a bridge 3 times the length of this one in such places like China.

Again, you can't mention this without being called names by staunch pro regime hirelings here. All these projects were started under Fashola, the same man who will go down in global history as having the record for spending the most money in constructing a kilometer of road!

Make una dey help them dey chop money anyhow.
Last last all man go dey alright..

Bangladesh has begun running the first metro rail service in its sprawling capital as authorities work to ease congestion that has throttled growth and inflamed tempers in the gridlocked metropolis.

Dhaka is one of the world’s most densely populated cities, and daily commutes along its car-clogged roads are a source of constant frustration for its 22 million people.

Local researchers say the capital’s economy loses upwards of $3bn each year in lost work time due to traffic jams, often worsened by regular street protests and monsoon rains.

The elevated train network had been in development for nearly a decade and is slated to grow to more than 100 stations and six lines criss-crossing the city by 2030.

Wednesday saw the start of operations on a section of the first line connecting an upscale neighbourhood on Dhaka’s periphery with the city centre. It was built at a cost of $2.8bn, largely funded by Japanese development funds.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/12/28/bangladesh-opens-first-metro-line-to-ease-dhakas-traffic?sf174083933=1

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by owobokiri(m): 3:00pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:
We prefer the expensive monorail to Peter Obi’s abandoned monorail. We also prefer the expensive monorail to voting based on kerosene and a plate of eba.
You will have to pay for the monorail with your profits from Cocoa sales to make such statements! That's how it's done. You can not be collecting national allocations for Lagos and still be insisting to go ahead with your barefaced agbadorian heist!

It won't fly..

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by sapele914(m): 3:00pm On Jan 01, 2023
owobokiri:
When I told them that they were celebrating mediocrity the other day over that overpriced monorail, these uncouth sons of Tinupoo started to wail like dying hyenas. To them it was tribalism. I am happy some other people are starting to say the truth.

It's the same with the overdramatized second Niger bridge.. The total amount used to build that bridge at the last count is now chasing the amount used to build a bridge 3 times the length of this one in such places like China.

Again, you can't mention this without being called names by staunch pro regime hirelings here. All these projects were started under Fashola, the same man who will go down in global history as having the record for spending the most money in constructing a kilometer of road!

Make una dey help them dey chop money anyhow.
Last last all man go dey alright..
Wrapper tying ogogoro people, Which one una done do for South South from Edo to Bayelsa?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by 3ple9iner: 3:05pm On Jan 01, 2023
Does the Addis Ababa rail track involve sea crossing? is it running on electricity or is it a locomotive train? are the design of the stations identical?
You should also tell us if the Ethiopian government payed compensation or not.

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 3:07pm On Jan 01, 2023
owobokiri:

You will have to pay for the monorail with your profits from Cocoa sales to make such statements! That's how it's done. You can not be collecting national allocations for Lagos and still be insisting to go ahead with your barefaced agbadorian heist!

It won't fly..

owobokiri:
What next? Private jets to all political appointees? Utterly confused, Mr Obi!.. It has been a struggle these years. He is torn between the desire to live up to his default penchant for primitive accumulation and the need to deliver some "action governor" credentials to satisfy the teaming millions who stood behind his fake messiah image during his early days in Anambra politics. For all his window dressings and lofty talks about saving Anambra, this man has grossly underachieved in spite of the enormous goodwill that greeted his arrival at the state house.There is no excuse for that. He has become richer, banking the state funds with his bank and all that yet Onitsha is still a sorry sight. Even his most ardent supporters will agree that if it was Ngige that handled this state this past 7 years, things would have been far better.

Above is your assessment of Peter Obi’s performance as governor of Anambra state. You posted the above comment on June 18th, 2013. So, how’s Peter Obi now the messiah we need to change Nigeria? What exactly has changed about Peter Obi from 2013 to 2023? Why do you hate the progress of this country so much that you want to impose a character you described accurately as a failure above as our next president?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by derecho(m): 3:08pm On Jan 01, 2023
Sanwo-olu is in trouble.
Unfortunately, he'd bear the brunt of Tinubu's failures

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Abdul05: 3:19pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:




Above is your assessment of Peter Obi’s performance as governor of Anambra state. You posted the above comment on June 18th, 2013. So, how’s Peter Obi now the messiah we need to change Nigeria? What exactly has changed about Peter Obi from 2013 to 2023? Why do you hate the progress of this country so much that you want to impose a character you described accurately as a failure above as our next president?

Thank you sir ..this is the same question l asked him the other time.

He was just fooling around. ..

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 3:23pm On Jan 01, 2023
owobokiri:

You will have to pay for the monorail with your profits from Cocoa sales to make such statements! That's how it's done. You can not be collecting national allocations for Lagos and still be insisting to go ahead with your barefaced agbadorian heist!

It won't fly..

The Bangladesh monorail was opened just a few days ago. The first phase of 21.2km was completed after about a decade of construction at a cost of $2.8billion. The project is being celebrated in Bangladesh as reported by AL Jazeera.

Lagos is not a country like Bangladesh. Lagos constructed a 27km monorail crossing the sea and paying compensation for structures removed to get the right of way at a cost of $1.5billion. Yet, Owobokiri from Anambra is saying we should not celebrate what Lagos has achieved with the monorail because it is mediocre. He’s even threatening Lagosians that they will pay for the train with cocoa earnings.

So tell us, what exactly are the landmark infrastructural projects in Anambra that are better and not mediocre like the Lagos monorail? Where is the Onitsha monorail that was initiated over a decade ago by Peter Obi?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by SmartPolician: 3:30pm On Jan 01, 2023
The day Tinubu will lose his grip over Lagos, Lagosians will weep at how much that man has embezzled from the state.

A super rich state that keeps borrowing and taking bonds and keeps inflicting project costs.
That's the same madness some people want to export to Aso Rock. God forbid!

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 3:36pm On Jan 01, 2023
SmartPolician:
The day Tinubu will lose his grip over Lagos, Lagosians will weep at how much that man has embezzled from the state.

A super rich state that keeps borrowing and taking bonds and keeps inflicting project costs.
That's the same madness some people want to export to Aso Rock. God forbid!

seunmsg:


The Bangladesh monorail was opened just a few days ago. The first phase of 21.2km was completed after about a decade of construction at a cost of $2.8billion. The project is being celebrated in Bangladesh as reported by AL Jazeera.

Lagos is not a country like Bangladesh. Lagos constructed a 27km monorail crossing the sea and paying compensation for structures removed to get the right of way at a cost of $1.5billion. Yet, Smartpolitician from SE is saying we should not celebrate what Lagos has achieved with the monorail because it is mediocre. He’s even threatening Lagosians that they will pay for the train with cocoa earnings.

So tell us, what exactly are the landmark infrastructural projects constructed by SE governors or even the rich SS governors that are better and not mediocre like the Lagos monorail? Where is the Onitsha monorail that was initiated over a decade ago by Peter Obi?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by SmartPolician: 3:44pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:



You are always fast to defend these men because you are scared of the people taking away food from your table.

Is it not the same Lagos where Fashola maintained a website for N78million and dug two boreholes for N139 million? All because Tinubu has his cut of Lagos money!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2015/08/24/fashola-spent-n139m-on-two-boreholes-lagos-state-government/%3famp=1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/n78-million-for-website-included-other-services-fashola/amp/

Well, IMO, many Lagosians already like Sanwo-Olu and are likely to vote for him. But you see 2027 election, it will tell us if APC has really been winning elections in Lagos or rigging. BVAS and IRev will redefine the future of Lagos.
Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by sreamsense: 3:54pm On Jan 01, 2023
Unfortunately, PDP can't compare new Lagos light rail with what they themselves built while in power because they had no legacy. Did PDP consider the crowded terrain upon which the rail is built including compensation and errecting bridges upon which the rail pass. It is a shame for PDP not being able to point to rail they built while in power in order to compare Lagos rail with it. Instead PDP were busy sharing money meant for infrastructure and security equipment

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by tommy589(m): 4:06pm On Jan 01, 2023
Topography may just be one of the factors in the high cost

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 4:16pm On Jan 01, 2023
SmartPolician:


You are always fast to defend these men because you are scared of the people taking away food from your table.

Is it not the same Lagos where Fashola maintained a website for N78million and dug two boreholes for N139 million? All because Tinubu has his cut of Lagos money!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2015/08/24/fashola-spent-n139m-on-two-boreholes-lagos-state-government/%3famp=1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/n78-million-for-website-included-other-services-fashola/amp/

Well, IMO, many Lagosians already like Sanwo-Olu and are likely to vote for him. But you see 2027 election, it will tell us if APC has really been winning elections in Lagos or rigging. BVAS and IRev will redefine the future of Lagos.

Instead of addressing the issues I raised, you veered of and started ranting about some irrelevant issues.

Did Tinubu also got a cut from Bangladesh monorail or why is it more expensive than Lagos monorail? If Lagos monorail is so bad and expensive, can you list the good and cheap infrastructural projects that rich states in the SE and SS have completed in the last ten years that are better than the Lagos monorail?

If APC is bad for Lagos, what should we say about PDP that has been ruling most SE and SS states since 1999? When are we going to rescue Enugu, Abia, Delta, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa etc from PDP?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Roboto11: 4:19pm On Jan 01, 2023
SmartPolician:


You are always fast to defend these men because you are scared of the people taking away food from your table.

Is it not the same Lagos where Fashola maintained a website for N78million and dug two boreholes for N139 million? All because Tinubu has his cut of Lagos money!

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2015/08/24/fashola-spent-n139m-on-two-boreholes-lagos-state-government/%3famp=1

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/n78-million-for-website-included-other-services-fashola/amp/

Well, IMO, many Lagosians already like Sanwo-Olu and are likely to vote for him. But you see 2027 election, it will tell us if APC has really been winning elections in Lagos or rigging. BVAS and IRev will redefine the future of Lagos.

You don't know anything.

What is the depth to aquifer of the borehole?

How much do Johnson steel casings cost?

Do you know the difference between domestic and industrial boreholes?

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Chelseanababa(m): 4:21pm On Jan 01, 2023
Eediot, finally you start 2023 with wailing, bitterness, crying and hatred, chief refugee can you tell me the states in your region that can boost of fly-over, in the next 50years no state from south east can achieve what Lagos has achieved in terms of developments

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by SmartPolician: 4:22pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:


Instead of addressing the issues I raised, you veered of and starting ranting about some irrelevant issues.

Did Tinubu also got a cut from Bangladesh monorail or why is it more expensive than Lagos monorail? If Lagos monorail is so bad and expensive, can you list the good and cheap infrastructural projects that rich states in the SE and SS have completed in the last ten years that are better than the Lagos monorail?

If APC is bad for Lagos, what should we say about PDP that has been ruling most SE and SS states since 1999? When are we going to rescue Enugu, Abia, Delta, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa etc from PDP?

The men of goodwill among us will join politics when the environment becomes safer and cleaner to dislodge the worst of us who continuously makes laws for the best of us.

FYI, every part of this country needs to be rescued from the shackles of greedy, corrupt, sick and heartless men and women who have held us bondage for over two decades now.
Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by SmartPolician: 4:24pm On Jan 01, 2023
Roboto11:


You don't know anything.

What is the depth to aquifer of the borehole?

How much do Johnson steel casings cost?

Do you know the difference between domestic and industrial boreholes?

Stop asking silly questions and go ahead to defend that madness.

Reel out stats and quotations.

That's your area of specialty - defending your oppressors because you are suffering from Stockholm syndrome!
Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by seunmsg(m): 4:25pm On Jan 01, 2023
SmartPolician:


The men of goodwill among us will join politics when the environment becomes safer and cleaner to dislodge the worst of us who continuously makes laws for the best of us.

FYI, every part of this country needs to be rescued from the shackles of greedy, corrupt, sick and heartless men and women who have held us bondage for over two decades now.

Okay now. We are waiting for saints like you to come and rescue the rest of us from the greedy, heartless and corrupt leaders who happens to be our fathers, uncles, brothers, sisters and friends. Hopefully, these saintly leaders will arrive before Jesus comes.

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by omonnakoda: 4:27pm On Jan 01, 2023
seunmsg:


The Bangladesh monorail was opened just a few days ago. The first phase of 21.2km was completed after about a decade of construction at a cost of $2.8billion. The project is being celebrated in Bangladesh as reported by AL Jazeera.

Lagos is not a country like Bangladesh. Lagos constructed a 27km monorail crossing the sea and paying compensation for structures removed to get the right of way at a cost of $1.5billion. Yet, Owobokiri from Anambra is saying we should not celebrate what Lagos has achieved with the monorail because it is mediocre. He’s even threatening Lagosians that they will pay for the train with cocoa earnings.

So tell us, what exactly are the landmark infrastructural projects in Anambra that are better and not mediocre like the Lagos monorail? Where is the Onitsha monorail that was initiated over a decade ago by Peter Obi?
First you accept the premise of what the Lagos project cost as claimed by the OP
He did not provide any source for it.
That is the starting point before getting into your very logical argument about terrain and compensation.
What is the source of $1.2 billion.
Is that from any Nigerian newspaper or LASG?
Did LASG pay in Naira or dollars?
Don't trust or believe fictional stories. Check ALL factual claim s

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Roboto11: 4:27pm On Jan 01, 2023
SmartPolician:


Stop asking silly questions and go ahead to defend that madness.

Reel out stats and quotations.

That's your area of specialty - defending your oppressors because you are suffering from Stockholm syndrome!

I provided you simple parameters you who labours to complain can use to determine the cost of a borehole.

Just because you are ignorant doesn't mean you should be broadcasting it.

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by Madmohamed123: 4:28pm On Jan 01, 2023
adefitim:
That's Tinubu Lagos

*Addis Ababa Light Rail Project*
Span: 34Km.
Cost: $475m
number of Stations: 39
Project Tenure: 2011 - 2015
Company: China Railway Group limited

*Lagos Light Rail project*
Span: 27km
Cost: $1.5Bn
number of Stations: 13
project Tenure: 2010 - 2023
Company: China Railway Group limited.

Amount per Km Addis Ababa - $14m

Amount per Km Lagos - $55m

The Addis Ababa isn't a Light Rail in quote, it can also transport heavy duty/earth moving equipments. Let's keep celebrating mediocrity.

Credit: Megababsblog

Lalasticlala
Mynd4
I'm not supporting tinubu but sometimes is not the way you think

First you have to check the environment of the project how many bridge how many will pass Tru water you know Lagos is not like Addis Ababa the train in Lagos will pass many bridge definitely most of them Tru water so is more expensive than Ethiopia which don't have much bridge.

I'm not engineer but I can think like engineer

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Re: Addis Ababa Train Is Better Than Lagos Own—- Pdp South - South Forum by omonnakoda: 4:29pm On Jan 01, 2023
adefitim:
That's Tinubu Lagos

*Addis Ababa Light Rail Project*
Span: 34Km.
Cost: $475m
number of Stations: 39
Project Tenure: 2011 - 2015
Company: China Railway Group limited

*Lagos Light Rail project*
Span: 27km
Cost: $1.5Bn
number of Stations: 13
project Tenure: 2010 - 2023
Company: China Railway Group limited.

Amount per Km Addis Ababa - $14m

Amount per Km Lagos - $55m

The Addis Ababa isn't a Light Rail in quote, it can also transport heavy duty/earth moving equipments. Let's keep celebrating mediocrity.

Credit: Megababsblog

Lalasticlala
Mynd4
Where did you get this from?
Can you provide a source?

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