Lifemaster321:
Atheists are here to cry and wail again. I love to see it.

Lol.we are laughing are your ignorance.

chinasaekpere:
So are you in anywhere saying that nothing can create itself?

I am saying ONLY life can create life. And only a sentient life can create a sentient life. Some Scientists say in the beginning of life the planet earth was filled with a primordial soup of teeming living cells, BUT they never tell you how those cells even came to be upon the plane earth. When you see them talk about evolution...How man came from apes and apes from land dwelling mammals, and the land dwelling mammals from water dwelling animals and the water dwellers from living cells....then how did the cells come into existence?.....total silence that's what you usually get.

AkpaMgbor:

I am saying ONLY life can create life. And only a sentient life can create a sentient life. Some Scientists say in the beginning of life the planet earth was filled with a primordial soup of teeming living cells, BUT they never tell you how those cells even came to be upon the plane earth. When you see them talk about evolution...How man came from apes and apes from land dwelling mammals, and the land dwelling mammals from water dwelling animals and the water dwellers from living cells....then how did the cells come into existence?.....total silence that's what you usually get.

So who created the life that created our own life?
Another life?

Jesus Christ will take Ooni Seriously after he gets rid of all the idols in Ile Ife and Faces Christ fully

Olumaeme:
Ooni is the biggest fool.
You say you have Jesus but sitting on the throne of the gods.

Its even laughable when Orunmila claims he created the world.

It is God Almighty who appoints Kings

Jesus Christ is the King of Kings

chinasaekpere:
So who created the life that created our own life?
Another life?

Don't jump the gun. Have you believed that the life which you know was created?

AkpaMgbor:

Don't jump the gun. Have you believed that the life which you know was created?

Then your logic of life always creating life didn't make any sense if you cannlt prove to me which life created the life that created us.
Most times, you religious people fail to see the flaw in your reasoning.
How can you try to prove God from cause and effect without knowing that it will create a problem of infinite regress?

Your argument is flawed because it's going to create a very complex problem of having to find out the Creator ad-infinitum.

And if you say that no one created the creator, it means that logic of life always creating life is still flawed.

AkpaMgbor:

Don't jump the gun. Have you believed that the life which you know was created?

and yes, I cannot believe that life must create life unless you can prove to me all creators ad-infinitum. That's the only way this your logic can make any sense

christistruth01:




It is God Almighty who appoints Kings

Jesus Christ is the King of Kings

Eeyah including king of criminals?

chinasaekpere:
and yes, I cannot believe that life must create life unless you can prove to me all creators ad-infinitum. That's the only way this your logic can make any sense

Lol this means you don't even believe in the very foundation of basic biology. Most of you follow bandwagon without even knowing what you argue against or for...now you're denying biological scientific fact because you to want disprove a Creator. Very funny.

AkpaMgbor:

Lol this means you don't even believe in the very foundation of basic biology. Most of you follow bandwagon without even knowing what you argue against or for...now you're denying biological scientific fact because you want disprove a Creator. Very funny.

Does our biology aslo apply to our creator?
If it does, he also has to be created from something. I want to know that thing. If you don't know that thing then your logic is seriously flawed.
It's flawed because we don't even know what created, and we still do not know what created the thing Tha created us. It's a serious fallacy of appealing to ignorance. Multiple fallacies

Secondly, there's nowhere in biology that specifically stated that the first cell had to come from another living thing. You are making that up.

Sharp Man. He find something to say to satisfy CAN. When he returns to shrine, he will change it to please it.

Olumaeme:


Eeyah including king of criminals?

Those ones are the Sons of Belial

chinasaekpere:
Does our biology aslo apply to our creator?
If it does, he also has to be created from something. I want to know that thing. If you don't know that thing then your logic is seriously flawed.
It's flawed because we don't even know what created, and we still do not know what created the thing Tha created us. It's a serious fallacy of appealing to ignorance. Multiple fallacies

Secondly, there's nowhere in biology that specifically stated that the first cell had to come from another living thing. You are making that up.

https://openoregon.pressbooks.pub/mhccmajorsbio/chapter/what-makes-something-living/

Even a jss3 kid knows that for any cell to be termed living it must possess certain attributes. You couldn't answer how the nuclei, mitochondrial members and the membranes of a living cell fused together perfectly to create life but you're now asking a totally unrelated question as is usual with creation deniers. Very bold and haughty of you to want to limit whoever engineered the complexities of the living cell to your own understanding when yo8 couldn't answer the most basic question of a cell that you can see (with a microscope atleast ).

chinasaekpere:
Lol.we are laughing are your ignorance.

My ignorance? Or your ignorance?
Come to Jesus, he loves you ❤️….. It’s never too late .

adenigga:


Source: https://dailypost.ng/Only-fools-say-theres-no-God-Jesus-turned-my-shame-to-celebration-Ooni-of-Ife

This one dey form he know God like this

AkpaMgbor:

https://openoregon.pressbooks.pub/mhccmajorsbio/chapter/what-makes-something-living/

Even a jss3 kid knows that for any cell to be termed living it must possess certain attributes. You couldn't answer how the nuclei, mitochondrial members and the membranes of a living cell fused together perfectly to create life but you're now asking a totally unrelated question as is usual with creation deniers. Very bold and haughty of you to want to limit whoever engineered the complexities of the living cell to your own understanding when yo8 couldn't answer the most basic question of a cell that you can see (with a microscope atleast ).

How did your unverified creator come into existence?

That's the issue now

chinasaekpere:
How did your unverified creator come into existence?

That's the issue now

I don't know who created Him or them, but I am absolutely convinced without an inkling of doubt whatsoever that life as we know it was created by a power that is sentient. When I see a house, even if I don't know who built it I know it must have been built by someone or some people. When I see a super artificial intelligent computer I know it was engineered by something else that also has intelligence, I don't need to see the creator to know this( that is why I have a thinking mind). When I see a sentient creature that can think, solve problems in it's natural environment I also know it was engineered by someone or people that could think and create....

AkpaMgbor:

I don't know who created Him or them, but I am absolutely convinced without an inkling of doubt whatsoever that life as we know it was created by a power that is sentient. When I see a house, even if I don't know who built it I know it must have been built by someone or some people. When I see a super artificial intelligent computer I know it was engineered by something else that also has intelligence, I don't need to see the creator to know this( that is why I have a thinking mind). When I see a sentient creature that can think, solve problems in it's natural environment I also know it was engineered by someone or people that could think and create....

So if you don't know how your supposed imaginary creator was created, how did you know that were created ourselves? How can you even ever solve the problem of creation with this reasoning?

Where's your evidence that we were created and everything didn't start on its own, probably like one of this creators because somhting must start on its own as some point, it's impossible for everything to be created ad-infinitum.

A super artificial intelligence knows who created it, unless you are totally ignorant of how AI works. You can immediately chat a Bing AI assistant now and ask it who created it, it will reply you. Ot ask SIRI on your iPhone, it will tell you who created it. So that comparison is totally ridiculous.

How did you know that we were created, whats you must convincing evidence that we can test?

Why can't you just say that you dont know if we were crated or not if you do not have reliable evidence for it?

chinasaekpere:
So if you don't know hwk created, how did you know that were created ourselves?

Where's your evidence that were created?

A super artificial intelligence knows how created, unless you are totally ignorant of how AI works.

How did you know that were created, whats you must convincing evidence?

Why can't you just say that you dont know if we were crated or not if you do not have reliable evidence for it?

Again the haughty arrogance to assume that because we were created, that the Creators must abide by our own known laws of physics and biology. An AI no matter how smart was still a product of a mind that could think! If with our limited knowledge we can create intelligence albeit artificial, then logic dictates that it will take a higher form of intelligence to create a biological intelligence. You've not fully understood your own limited environment( which is the earth and it's external environment) but you want to know the origins of the sentient force that brought you into existence? LOL The arrogance.

Go and destroy all shrines in your domain n i will believe what you are saying......
N preach that to traditional chiefs , tell them to forsake those small gods

AkpaMgbor:

Again the haughty arrogance to assume that because we were created, that the Creators must abide by our own known laws of physics and biology. An AI no matter how smart was still a product of a mind that could think! If with our limited knowledge we can create intelligence albeit artificial, then logic dictates that it will take a higher form of intelligence to create a biological intelligence. You've not fully understood your own limited environment( which is the earth and it's external environment) but you want to know the origins of the sentient force that brought you into existence? LOL The arrogance.

it's impossible for something to be created ad-infinitum, something must have existed that created itself.


You are an illiterate, ask Siri on IPhone, an AI who created it and hear what it tells you.

There's no single evidence they we were created. All your arguments are fallacious and not reasonable.

Show me one evidence without having to commit any form of fallacy and I will believe you.

AkpaMgbor:

Again the haughty arrogance to assume that because we were created, that the Creators must abide by our own known laws of physics and biology. An AI no matter how smart was still a product of a mind that could think! If with our limited knowledge we can create intelligence albeit artificial, then logic dictates that it will take a higher form of intelligence to create a biological intelligence. You've not fully understood your own limited environment( which is the earth and it's external environment) but you want to know the origins of the sentient force that brought you into existence? LOL The arrogance.

also ask Google AI and bing, they know who created them, they will answer you. And these AI are not even that smart.

You are busy making shit up

bobchigar:
Sharp Man. He find something to say to satisfy CAN. When he returns to shrine, he will change it to please it.

Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful. — Seneca/ Ooni of Ife

chinasaekpere:
it's impossible for something to be created ad-infinitum, something must have existed that created itself.


You are an illiterate, ask Siri on IPhone, an AI who created it and hear what it tells you.

There's no single evidence they we were created. All your arguments are fallacious and not reasonable.

Show me one evidence without having to commit any form of fallacy and I will believe you.

Oh you asked siri and it told you it was created. Then you asked me and I told you I was created and yet you believe siri? Lol siri seems to be smarter than you.

AkpaMgbor:

Oh you asked siri and it told you it was created. Then you asked me and I told you I was created and yet you believe siri? Lol siri seems to be smarter than you.

Because someone actually created siri, there's evidence for this and no one created you with evidence.
Do you know who created you?
Tell us.
Who's your imaginary creator?

AkpaMgbor:

Again the haughty arrogance to assume that because we were created, that the Creators must abide by our own known laws of physics and biology. An AI no matter how smart was still a product of a mind that could think! If with our limited knowledge we can create intelligence albeit artificial, then logic dictates that it will take a higher form of intelligence to create a biological intelligence. You've not fully understood your own limited environment( which is the earth and it's external environment) but you want to know the origins of the sentient force that brought you into existence? LOL The arrogance.

Thats the problem with these folks, the earth is filled with 81% water and 19% land. Since the creation of man, Man have only been able to to explore 5% in what's in the water. Humans through the same scientist have said we can only use 5% of our brain. When someone telling you he doesn't believe God exist, someone that can't even tell you how his DNA was composed, how he sleeps and wake.
Is it even possible to see a Spirit being? Atheism follow scientist, the same scientist acknowledges that demons exist. If demons can exist what makes them think God don't exist.
You believe man is made of Body, Soul and Spirit but that same body hopes to see a spiritual God with his physical eyes. I laugh.

chinasaekpere:
Because someone actually created siri, there's evidence for this and no one created you with evidence.
Do you know who created you?
Tell us.
Who's your imaginary creator?

Do you expect to see a Spirit Being with your physical eyes before? The same rubbish scientist hypothesis you are following but same scientist said man is made of Body, Soul and Spirit? So you expect to see someone who created the earth, planets, stars and galaxies with your natural and physical eyes? You that can't even see the inside of your brain, inside of your own body with your physical eyes wants to see a Spiritual being. Dingbat.

chinasaekpere:
Because someone actually created siri, there's evidence for this and no one created you with evidence.
Do you know who created you?
Tell us.
Who's your imaginary creator?

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OKOATA:
Thats the problem with these folks, the earth is filled with 81% water and 19% land. Since the creation of man, Man have only been able to to explore 5% in what's in the water. Humans through the same scientist have said we can only use 5% of our brain. When someone telling you he doesn't believe God exist, someone that can't even tell you how his DNA was composed, how he sleeps and wake.
Is it even possible to see a Spirit being? Atheism follow scientist, the same scientist acknowledges that demons exist. If demons can exist what makes them think God don't exist.
You believe man is made of Body, Soul and Spirit but that same body hopes to see a spiritual God with his physical eyes. I laugh.

we know how DNA can self create in a lab. What are you guys talking about?

DNA can form itself from elements and self-replicate.

OKOATA:
Do you expect to see a Spirit Being with your physical eyes before? The same rubbish scientist hypothesis you are following but same scientist said man is made of Body, Soul and Spirit? So you expect to see someone who created the earth, planets, stars and galaxies with your natural and physical eyes? You that can't even see the inside of your brain, inside of your own body with your physical eyes wants to see a Spiritual being. Dingbat.

there's no evidence that spirits exist, where's the evidence for it?
How do you know that the exist, you?

chinasaekpere:
there's no evidence that spirits exist, where's the evidence for it?
How do you know that the exist, you?

There's no evidence that spirit exist but the same scientist same Angels, Demons and Spirit exist. Man has only been able to use 5% of his brain. There are trillions of books published in paper and online all over the world.

You as a man have you been able to read 1/3rd of all the book in the world? Using 5% of your brain saying something don't exist as if you are the supreme that have read all the books and have the whole knowledge in the universe to acclaim what you don't know not about. You that you don't have the power over how you breath in and out is claiming that a supreme being doesn't exist.

Oh so you think this life is an illusion, if life is an illusion why do you eat, sleep, wake, hustle for money, enjoy with family. Why do you feel pain, or sick. Those in the prison who are innocent and praying to God everyday you tell me life is illusion to them? Better please for forgiveness to mother nature and God for speaking against your maker. You this ingrate.