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Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 6:27pm On Jan 09, 2023
So there's something i've been meaning to share with you guys pertaining to getting a raise and or promotion at work.

Most times in a workplace you see raises and promotions get handed to people that other employees might feel they're underserving of it. Sadly it almost doesn't matter how much of a hardworker you are or if you always work longer hours than everybody if you're not strategically positioning yourself.

A lot of times, it boil downs to if you have someone(mostly your manager) speaking on your behalf to the people that makes the decision concerning who gets either a raise or promotion and who doesn't. If your manager doesn't feel compelled enough to fight for you in your absence where it matters, you have a problem.

You need to focus only on impressing, in this context, your manager. Your manager HAS TO LIKE YOU. I cannot emphasize enough the advantages of this. conversely, i also cannot imagine the disadvantages that comes with your manager not liking you.

You just need to how find to become a likeable person and get the important people in your organization on your side.

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Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by qtguru(m): 6:40pm On Jan 09, 2023
ReactJs:
So there's something i've been meaning to share with you guys pertaining to getting a raise and or promotion at work.

Most times in a workplace you see raises and promotions get handed to people that other employees might feel they're underserving of it. Sadly it almost doesn't matter how much of a hardworker you are or if you always work longer hours than everybody if you're not strategically positioning yourself.

A lot of times, it boil downs to if you have someone(mostly your manager) speaking on your behalf to the people that makes the decision concerning who gets either a raise or promotion and who doesn't. If your manager doesn't feel compelled enough to fight for you in your absence where it matters, you have a problem.

You need to focus only on impressing, in this context, your manager. Your manager HAS TO LIKE YOU. I cannot emphasize enough the advantages of this. conversely, i also cannot imagine the disadvantages that comes with your manager not liking you.

You just need to how find to become a likeable person and get the important people in your organization on your side.

How do you impress the manager? let me guess by working hard ?
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 6:46pm On Jan 09, 2023
ReactJs:
So there's something i've been meaning to share with you guys pertaining to getting a raise and or promotion at work.

Most times in a workplace you see raises and promotions get handed to people that other employees might feel they're underserving of it. Sadly it almost doesn't matter how much of a hardworker you are or if you always work longer hours than everybody if you're not strategically positioning yourself.

A lot of times, it boil downs to if you have someone(mostly your manager) speaking on your behalf to the people that makes the decision concerning who gets either a raise or promotion and who doesn't. If your manager doesn't feel compelled enough to fight for you in your absence where it matters, you have a problem.

You need to focus only on impressing, in this context, your manager. Your manager HAS TO LIKE YOU. I cannot emphasize enough the advantages of this. conversely, i also cannot imagine the disadvantages that comes with your manager not liking you.

You just need to how find to become a likeable person and get the important people in your organization on your side.

Become better at the job.

Dont give a hoot about mid management liking you if you deliver on your KPIs.

If you are really good and they try to hogwash you with this rubbish bootlicking, take your skills to another place.

I have seen people who follow this your mantra and they stink professionally.

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Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 7:01pm On Jan 09, 2023
qtguru:


How do you impress the manager? let me guess by working hard ?

Err yes to some extent. after a certain competence level, soft skills becomes more important than hard skills.

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Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 7:02pm On Jan 09, 2023
truthCoder:


Become better at the job.

Dont give a hoot about mid management liking you if you deliver on your KPIs.

If you are really good and they try to hogwash you with this rubbish bootlicking, take your skills to another place.

I have seen people who follow this your mantra and they stink professionally.

Erm Okayy
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by robinhood171200: 7:29pm On Jan 09, 2023
ReactJs:
So there's something i've been meaning to share with you guys pertaining to getting a raise and or promotion at work.

Most times in a workplace you see raises and promotions get handed to people that other employees might feel they're underserving of it. Sadly it almost doesn't matter how much of a hardworker you are or if you always work longer hours than everybody if you're not strategically positioning yourself.

A lot of times, it boil downs to if you have someone(mostly your manager) speaking on your behalf to the people that makes the decision concerning who gets either a raise or promotion and who doesn't. If your manager doesn't feel compelled enough to fight for you in your absence where it matters, you have a problem.

You need to focus only on impressing, in this context, your manager. Your manager HAS TO LIKE YOU. I cannot emphasize enough the advantages of this. conversely, i also cannot imagine the disadvantages that comes with your manager not liking you.

You just need to how find to become a likeable person and get the important people in your organization on your side.
boss i'm a developer and i'd like to ask you a couple of questions, how can i contact you or is there a way to send you a message directly?
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 8:03pm On Jan 09, 2023
robinhood171200:
boss i'm a developer and i'd like to ask you a couple of questions, how can i contact you or is there a way to send you a message directly?
Hey bro please send a DM to @npmrundev_ on twitter.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by GloriousGbola: 1:33pm On Jan 12, 2023
truthCoder:


Become better at the job.

Dont give a hoot about mid management liking you if you deliver on your KPIs.

If you are really good and they try to hogwash you with this rubbish bootlicking, take your skills to another place.

I have seen people who follow this your mantra and they stink professionally.

This is the worst advice you can give anyone

Technical competence gets you the job, emotional intelligence gets you ahead. This applies EVERYWHERE. Because you will always reach a point where it becomes about managing people to get results. If you cannot manage your boss, you will not be able to manage a team of subordinates.

Otherwise you will wind up bitter as you see people who are not particularly smart or intelligent get ahead.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by GloriousGbola: 1:35pm On Jan 12, 2023
qtguru:


How do you impress the manager? let me guess by working hard ?

The way to impress your manager is to make him/her look good in front of management. That way when your manager advances he/she will vouch for you.

This assumes your manager is a human being and not an arsheole tho. I have seen some really fked up human beings in mgt.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 2:02pm On Jan 12, 2023
GloriousGbola:


This is the worst advice you can give anyone

Technical competence gets you the job, emotional intelligence gets you ahead. This applies EVERYWHERE. Because you will always reach a point where it becomes about managing people to get results. If you cannot manage your boss, you will not be able to manage a team of subordinates.

Otherwise you will wind up bitter as you see people who are not particularly smart or intelligent get ahead.

Always follow the context.

The OP surmised that people should please their managers to get favors, which could be positive recommendations.

My response is to counter that.

This is not about people management and your points are way off from the context.

Many companies have failed because they had a culture of cult worship.

If you are good at your job, you would be valued. If you are not valued where you are, simply go to where your skills would be valued.

As a manager, I appreciate subordinates who can deliver on their JDs and KPIs more than those that are always telling me my new sneakers are the best Nike ever made.

There is a limit to where foot licking can take you.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 2:10pm On Jan 12, 2023
GloriousGbola:


The way to impress your manager is to make him/her look good in front of management. That way when your manager advances he/she will vouch for you.

This assumes your manager is a human being and not an arsheole tho. I have seen some really fked up human beings in mgt.

Are you working for the manager or working for the organization?

You have your KPI, your manager has his own KPI. Deliver on your KPI and let him deliver his.

When everyone delivers on their KPIs, the organization has delivered.

Your model is a clusterfuck of different cults where gossips and backbiting reign and everyone sees the other as competition for the overfed manager’s patronage.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 6:48pm On Jan 12, 2023
truthCoder:


Always follow the context.

The OP surmised that people should please their managers to get favors, which could be positive recommendations.

My response is to counter that.

This is not about people management and your points are way off from the context.

Many companies have failed because they had a culture of cult worship.

If you are good at your job, you would be valued. If you are not valued where you are, simply go to where your skills would be valued.

As a manager, I appreciate subordinates who can deliver on their JDs and KPIs more than those that are always telling me my new sneakers are the best Nike ever made.

There is a limit to where foot licking can take you.

"The OP surmised that people should please their managers to get favors, which could be positive recommendations. "

Lol that's what you understood from what i wrote? You're a funny person and one of the reasons why i chose not to indulge you the other day is that i saw you definitely missed the point and you're still missing the point.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 6:52pm On Jan 12, 2023
GloriousGbola:


This is the worst advice you can give anyone

Technical competence gets you the job, emotional intelligence gets you ahead. This applies EVERYWHERE. Because you will always reach a point where it becomes about managing people to get results. If you cannot manage your boss, you will not be able to manage a team of subordinates.

Otherwise you will wind up bitter as you see people who are not particularly smart or intelligent get ahead.

Thank you. You cannot get to the top based off of technical competence alone. I don't know what kind of organisations people on this forum work for or how large and diverse their team is. I told the other guy in the thread that, after you've established a certain level of competence, you soft skills will matter more. It's just the way the world worlds.. unless you want to keep jumping from one company to another all your professional life.
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 7:00pm On Jan 12, 2023
ReactJs:


"The OP surmised that people should please their managers to get favors, which could be positive recommendations. "

Lol that's what you understood from what i wrote? You're a funny person and one of the reasons why i chose not to indulge you the other day is that i saw you definitely missed the point and you're still missing the point.

Reactjs?

How many monikers do you have?

LOL
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 7:01pm On Jan 12, 2023
ReactJs:


Thank you. You cannot get to the top based off of technical competence alone. I don't know what kind of organisations people on this forum work for or how large and diverse their team is. I told the other guy in the thread that, after you've established a certain level of competence, you soft skills will matter more. It's just the way the world worlds.. unless you want to keep jumping from one company to another all your professional life.

You are using your alt.

LOL
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 7:03pm On Jan 12, 2023
truthCoder:


Reactjs?

How many monikers do you have?

LOL

Wait please. i hope it's not what i'm thinking. what do you mean how many moniker do i have?
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by ReactJs(m): 7:05pm On Jan 12, 2023
truthCoder:


You are using your alt.

LOL

Ahh you're confusing me for someone else obviously .
Re: Getting A Raise And Promotion Faster: A Short Developer's Guide by truthCoder: 7:12pm On Jan 12, 2023
ReactJs:


Ahh you're confusing me for someone else obviously .

LOL

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