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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by gidgiddy: 1:27pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:

There is a difference between Igbo Speaking and Igbo

For example Plateau State is Hausa Speaking but not Hausa

Egbirra are Yoruba Speakers but not Yoruba

Parts of Edo State like Akoko Edo are Yoruba Speaking but not Yoruba

Americans are English Speaking but not English

Nzeogwu is Igbo Speaking but they see themselves as offshoot Of Benin

Nobody in Okpanam claims to be from Benin. Okpanam is short for Okpala-Anam and is as Igbo as can be

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 1:43pm On Jan 16, 2023
gidgiddy:


Nobody in Okpanam claims to be from Benin. Okpanam is short for Okpala-Anam and is as Igbo as can be



Actually Okpanam is an Olukumi Town

Their founding Ancestors were Yorubas from Owo and Akure

They became Igbo Speaking with time

Ask them

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 1:51pm On Jan 16, 2023
Penguin2:


Fantastic!

So how come his coup is an Igbo coup?



Thank you very much

Ironsi And Azikiwe were the real brains behind the Coup

Gen Ironsi was the head of the Army and was responsible for Providing Security for those murdered

by his Army boys

For example Ademuleguns Security details were secretly changed in the Middle of the night without his knowledge

Only Ironsi was Authorised to do that

Secondly Azikiwe went Abroad because he knew of the planned Coup

The British intelligence contacted Dr Azikiwe’s Doctors in the UK who confirmed there was

nothing wrong with Azikiwe and he was healthy enough to return to Nigeria, for the

Commonwealth Conference

Thirdly after the Prime Minister was Kidnapped and Several People Killed Alhaji Ahmed Kurfi

Went to the State House to see Gen Ironsi about the Missing Prime Minister

and found him at a meeting with Ifeajuna who had just killed

Brigadier Maimailari and Prime Minister Balewa Present

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by FreedomfromtheT: 1:56pm On Jan 16, 2023
lhordspy:
According to the creator of this thread, he said:
"But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so."

A Coup that was masterminded, orchestrated and executed by key heartless people like ; Chukuwama Nzeogwu, Anuforo,Onwuatuegwu, Emmanuel Efeajuna, Humphrey Chukwuma, Don Okafor
Is what?

Is it a Fulani coup? Our problem in this country is when the truth is against our interest or affiliations, we always tend to see it as campaign of calumnies against us.

Truth should always be truth, irrespective of whether it favour us or not.
Is Kaduna Nzeogwu from Okpanam Delta State Igbo or not?
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by YeeboMuslim: 2:03pm On Jan 16, 2023
AdaojoTheUrchin:


Eleribu ni o! Olodo rapata ni o! Who mentioned Ademulegun?
I am talking about Maj. Adewale Adeomoyega who was Yoruba like us and was one of the coupists that killed politicians and officers. The only coupist that wrote a book about the coup.

You just open your dirty agbado-munching sandy mouth to talk nonsense.
I go use history lessons flog your urchin back tear for here. Werey to nbe bi oya. grin
Osu ,
Tell us who Ademoyega killed grin
Your cowardly and treacherous grandfathers could kill other people in cold blood but suddenly developed paralysis when it was time to kill Azikwe , Osadebey , Okpara and Ironsi grin grin
Typical ibo mentality grin grin.
Your useless forebears more than paid for their stupidity tho .

The thoughtless ibo tribal coup of 1966 led us to where we are today and no osu pig would enter Aso rock until you losers apologise to Nigerians for derailing the country

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by FreedomfromtheT: 2:06pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:

There is a difference between Igbo Speaking and Igbo

For example Plateau State is Hausa Speaking but not Hausa

Egbirra are Yoruba Speakers but not Yoruba

Parts of Edo State like Akoko Edo are Yoruba Speaking but not Yoruba

Americans are English Speaking but not English

Nzeogwu is Igbo Speaking but they see themselves as offshoot Of Benin
Ebiras are not Yoruba speakers please. Thank you.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by AdaojoTheUrchin: 2:12pm On Jan 16, 2023
YeeboMuslim:

Osu ,
Tell us who Ademoyega killed grin
Your cowardly and treacherous grandfathers could kill other people in cold blood but suddenly developed paralysis when it was time to kill Azikwe , Osadebey , Okpara and Ironsi grin grin
Typical ibo mentality grin grin.
Your useless forebears more than paid for their stupidity tho .

The thoughtless ibo tribal coup of 1966 led us to where we are today and no osu pig would enter Aso rock until you losers apologise to Nigerians for derailing the country

Ademoyega told us he participated in the coup in Lagos and killed Col. Unegbe, Tafawa Balewa etc.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 2:16pm On Jan 16, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
Ebiras are not Yoruba speakers please. Thank you.


Ok I will correct that but the Egbirra Language is very close to the Yoruba Language

Doesn’t Ajaokuta sound Yoruba to you ?

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by YeeboMuslim: 2:23pm On Jan 16, 2023
AdaojoTheUrchin:


Ademoyega told us he participated in the coup in Lagos and killed Col. Unegbe, Tafawa Balewa etc.
See this osu pig grin grin
Even you are not proud of the shameful acts of your ancestors grin cheesy
Typical Ibo mentality

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Penguin2: 2:35pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:




Thank you very much

Ironsi And Azikiwe were the real brains behind the Coup

Gen Ironsi was the head of the Army and was responsible for Providing Security for those murdered

by his Army boys

For example Ademuleguns Security details were secretly changed in the Middle of the night without his knowledge

Only Ironsi was Authorised to do that

Secondly Azikiwe went Abroad because he knew of the planned Coup

The British intelligence contacted Dr Azikiwe’s Doctors in the UK who confirmed there was

nothing wrong with Azikiwe and he was healthy enough to return to Nigeria, for the

Commonwealth Conference

Thirdly after the Prime Minister was Kidnapped and Several People Killed Alhaji Ahmed Kurfi

Went to the State House to see Gen Ironsi about the Missing Prime Minister

and found him at a meeting with Ifeajuna who had just killed

Brigadier Maimailari and Prime Minister Balewa Present


You are the first person I’m hearing accuse Ironsi of masterminding the coup. Nobody has done that before, including scholars.

The only thing that has ever been used against Ironsi was his prevarication to prosecute the coup plotters.

So, where are you getting your narratives?

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by tinsel: 2:54pm On Jan 16, 2023
OBALOLA55:
CAN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE NORTHERNERS YOU MASSACRED IN LAGOS IN THE NINETIES


https://allafrica.com/stories/200202080010.html
That coup started all these nonsense in Nigeria

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by FatimaAbbas(f): 3:15pm On Jan 16, 2023
As you people speak of coup, I want to remind you all that Nigeria is bigger than us all, and her peace is of utmost advantage to us all. Elections will come and go, but Nigeria is here. Think about it.
Please subscribe to my channel, thank you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRsZzGRntmk
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:32pm On Jan 16, 2023
lhordspy:
According to the creator of this thread, he said:
"But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so."

A Coup that was masterminded, orchestrated and executed by key heartless people like ; Chukuwama Nzeogwu, Anuforo,Onwuatuegwu, Emmanuel Efeajuna, Humphrey Chukwuma, Don Okafor
Is what?

Is it a Fulani coup? Our problem in this country is when the truth is against our interest or affiliations, we always tend to see it as campaign of calumnies against us.

Truth should always be truth, irrespective of whether it favour us or not.

It is not an Igbo coup. These are individuals that took personal actions. I have never heard people tag Buhari's coup a northern coup.

Imagine arresting armed robbers from North and tag it a Northern robbery.

These people do not make a millionth of the Igbos.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:33pm On Jan 16, 2023
Some few people took an action and a multitude generations must pay for the crime of those individuals. Things that does not concern them.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by FreedomfromtheT: 3:38pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:



Ok I will correct that but the Egbirra Language is very close to the Yoruba Language

Doesn’t Ajaokuta sound Yoruba to you ?

It is actually Igala that sounds close to Yoruba yet Igalas are not Yoruba speakers. Thank you.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Nobody: 3:54pm On Jan 16, 2023
Penguin2:


Oh, really?

Now why is Gideon Okar’s coup not Tiv coup?

Why is Buhari coup not Fulani coup?

Why is Babaginda coup not Hausa coup?

Why is Nzeogwu’s coup the only one with that ethnic tag?
dont get it wrong,i understand, your point of view concerning this,but all those other coups didn't follow similar rythme as that of nzeogu,if you read history it was the first coup to happen in Nigeria,ironsi didn't have a hard time defeating nzeogu to regain control,as a matter of fact there was hardly any battle,and in the end nzeogu wasn't put in prison as it should be,he was walking as a free man,so many red flags hanging around,not to mention how he converted money given to him for a different purpose to arm his colleagues,also there was a controversial cartoon poster about the northern elites who where killed during the coupe one year after it happened which triggered mixed feelings,you cant talk about other coups with highlighting the first.the first of anything is the best reference because each that follows is an exact replica of the first,nzeogu thought our soldiers a bad thing and they followed same as festus okotie eboh thought our politicians corruption. i understand your pain,its not easy to be always reminded of a hurt or wrong you've done,but history exists so you can prove people wrong.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by 2elliot: 3:59pm On Jan 16, 2023
YeeboMuslim:

See this osu clown revising history .
Azikwe , Okpara , Osadebey and Ironsi ( yeebos ) were supposed to die in the coup but they miraculously escaped grin grin
The good news is that your cowardly ancestors more than paid for their stupidity
You treacherous beings are paying more, in both lives and regional growth.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Penguin2: 4:29pm On Jan 16, 2023
omale88:
dont get it wrong,i understand, your point of view concerning this,but all those other coups didn't follow similar rythme as that of nzeogu,if you read history it was the first coup to happen in Nigeria,ironsi didn't have a hard time defeating nzeogu to regain control,as a matter of fact there was hardly any battle,and in the end nzeogu wasn't put in prison as it should be,he was walking as a free man,so many red flags hanging around,not to mention how he converted money given to him for a different purpose to arm his colleagues,also there was a controversial cartoon poster about the northern elites who where killed during the coupe one year after it happened which triggered mixed feelings,you cant talk about other coups with highlighting the first.the first of anything is the best reference because each that follows is an exact replica of the first,nzeogu thought our soldiers a bad thing and they followed same as festus okotie eboh thought our politicians corruption. i understand your pain,its not easy to be always reminded of a hurt or wrong you've done,but history exists so you can prove people wrong.

No!

Nzeogwu was not allowed to roam free in the street. He was arrested and imprisoned with his co-plotters.

The only misgiving people had with Ironsi was the fact that he was not swift with sentencing them to firing squad.

Please get your facts right.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 4:33pm On Jan 16, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
It is actually Igala that sounds close to Yoruba yet Igalas are not Yoruba speakers. Thank you.

Egbirra sounds more Yoruba than Igala Thank you

Also Yorubas treat the Igala and Egbirra as part of the Yorubas because of their Special relationship


Ajaokuta is Egbirra

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 4:44pm On Jan 16, 2023
FreedomfromtheT:
It is actually Igala that sounds close to Yoruba yet Igalas are not Yoruba speakers. Thank you.


The Egbirra Language sounds like Yoruba but spoken with a hot tone



Again Ajaokuta is an Egbirra Town
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Jan 16, 2023
Penguin2:


No!

Nzeogwu was not allowed to roam free in the street. He was arrested and imprisoned with his co-plotters.

The only misgiving people had with Ironsi was the fact that he was not swift with sentencing them to firing squad.

Please get your facts right.
ojukwu released him in march 1967 two months before the civil war thats what i mean,are you trying to say that ojukwu had no reason to keep him in prison for killing innocent people? regardless of the fact that ojukwu wasn't on same page with Nigeria?

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 4:58pm On Jan 16, 2023
Penguin2:


You are the first person I’m hearing accuse Ironsi of masterminding the coup. Nobody has done that before, including scholars.

The only thing that has ever been used against Ironsi was his prevarication to prosecute the coup plotters.

So, where are you getting your narratives?

The British declassified files and NCNC Politicians

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/1966-

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by AroOkigbo(m): 5:23pm On Jan 16, 2023
Roger3D:
It was an Ibo coup. Simple and plain. Nobody should attempt to rewrite history
The question is, is Buhari's coup, Fulani coup?

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by AroOkigbo(m): 5:26pm On Jan 16, 2023
Thanksful:


So today now there is no place called Niger Delta because Nzogu is from Niger Delta?

I want all those people from Niger Delta to come out and agree with you now.
Niger Delta is a place/location, not a tribe.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by YeeboMuslim: 5:49pm On Jan 16, 2023
2elliot:
You treacherous beings are paying more, in both lives and regional growth.
Like the thousands of piglets that perished with the pogrom or the 3 million that were suyanised subsequently.
Infact, the tiny barren sad east is the poverty capital of the south at the moment with their home grown terrorists running riot

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by 2elliot: 6:05pm On Jan 16, 2023
YeeboMuslim:

Like the thousands of piglets that perished with the pogrom or the 3 million that were suyanised subsequently.
Infact, the tiny barren sad east is the poverty capital of the south at the moment with their home grown terrorists running riot
First of, I am an ijaw man. Talking about death stats, many Nigerian soldiers died. In fact, over five of my uncles who fought on the side of Nigeria died in the war. One of them who was the most exposed and enlightened in the family was killed by Adekunle, a wicked Yoruba soldier. He was killed because he alerted those of my kinsmen and towns men who were sympathetic to the Biafra course, who were of course on the wanted list of the Nigerian soldiers. When the killing of the ijaw supporters of Biafra got to my place, and when the soldiers could not get the marked me, they accused my uncle. He was subsequently killed by Adekunle.
What I am telling you in essence that, a lot of people died even on the Nigerian side. And if you were wise, you will realise that all most all of those who fought and killed Biafrans are all dead. The remaining ones are on their way to the great beyond. Whichever way, nemesis have caught up with them. And again, the wanted killings and lack of justice in a supposed peace time have resulted in more deaths of Nigerians than the number of Biafrans killed during a war time.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by 2elliot: 6:05pm On Jan 16, 2023
AroOkigbo:

Niger Delta is a place/location, not a tribe.
Don't mind that idiot.
Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by 2elliot: 6:08pm On Jan 16, 2023
christistruth01:


The British declassified files and NCNC Politicians

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/1966-
And what is incriminating about that? He stopped the coup, and therefore thought it was his birthright to rule.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by jahsharon: 6:08pm On Jan 16, 2023
Penguin2:
Because of this year’s election, this year’s Armed Forces Remembrance Day has taken different dimensions with some elements trying to remind some Nigerians who killed their ancestors.

But what is most interesting is that all of these people are tagging the infamous 1966 coup as an Igbo coup as they have always done; erroneously so.

But it was this same people that would remind the Aniomas of Delta State that they are not Igbos.

So, I want to know what changed… Kaduna Nzeogwu is from Okpanam in Delta State.

Why is Kaduna Nzeogwu from Okpanam an Igbo man but Okpanam is not an Igboland, and everyone else in Okpanam are not Igbos?

Don't mind then, Okpanam is in Jalingo, near Owerri. You dey smoke Canadian Hemp

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by 2elliot: 6:13pm On Jan 16, 2023
tinsel:

That coup started all these nonsense in Nigeria
Awolowo and Akintola's wild wild west politics caused all these madness. Don't forget.

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Re: Can Someone Explain Why Kaduna Nzeogwu Is Igbo But His Village Is Not Igboland? by christistruth01: 6:20pm On Jan 16, 2023
2elliot:
And what is incriminating about that? He stopped the coup, and therefore thought it was his birthright to rule.


What are you saying

Gen Ironsi takeover of Power was completely unconstitutional

And he frustrated all the British Governments agreement with the FG

to send troops in case of any emergency like they did in Tanzania

and saved Nyerere from a Coup attempt

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