atmy1:
A good political analysts will always read between the lines of western news reports. You can see there is a lot of copium in this BBC report. It initially describes what is happening, which is that Russians are gaining grounds nd improving, then it began to add some bits which are just irreverent. This is how western reports give false hopes. They know what they are doing. Backmut is doomed irrespective.

atmy1:
A good political analysts will always read between the lines of western news reports. You can see there is a lot of copium in this BBC report. It initially describes what is happening, which is that Russians are gaining grounds nd improving, then it began to add some bits which are just irreverent. This is how western reports give false hopes. They know what they are doing. Backmut is doomed irrespective.

seunny4lif:

Even Ukraine former minister that resigned few days ago said the same thing.
He said if Ukraine don’t mobilise troops within 2 weeks they will lose everything.

Ukraine troops dead should be around 200K because if EU President can said Ukraine have lost over 100K 3 months ago and Croatia President said Ukraine have lost over 150K troops then it’s obvious.
The first 3 months of the war, Russia lost heavy but since they changed to using Syria campaign methods of burn everything to ground before moving, they have made it hard for Ukraine troops.
Many foreign fighters fighting for Ukraine that got out alive blamed Ukraine government for lying about the frontline

bassdow:


I know it's difficult for One to willingly agree to Loose a Territory, but in this Ukraine situation, it's more like when a (forex) Trader tries to get back at the market - you go loose more, if not all. While trying to resist Russia, they Permanently lost Four regions, there are signs they might permanently loose more regions. This is for conflict wey Russia no initially even come take anything.
It's getting much worse now that even NATO and Eu is finding it difficult recruiting more soldiers to as mercenaries.

Na Wa Ooo. Just 1 country doing all these, and our cow3 still dey commission borehole water wey go stop working few months later

seunny4lif:

Even Ukraine former minister that resigned few days ago said the same thing.
He said if Ukraine don’t mobilise troops within 2 weeks they will lose everything.

Ukraine troops dead should be around 200K because if EU President can said Ukraine have lost over 100K 3 months ago and Croatia President said Ukraine have lost over 150K troops then it’s obvious.
The first 3 months of the war, Russia lost heavy but since they changed to using Syria campaign methods of burn everything to ground before moving, they have made it hard for Ukraine troops.
Many foreign fighters fighting for Ukraine that got out alive blamed Ukraine government for lying about the frontline

Vl3ly:
200k ke, ukraine are in 8th round of mobilization now, where are there main soldiers talkless of 1st to 7th mobilized forces
There casualties would be btw 300k to 400k

Vl3ly:
200k ke, ukraine are in 8th round of mobilization now, where are there main soldiers talkless of 1st to 7th mobilized forces
There casualties would be btw 300k to 400k

seunny4lif:

Let just agree on 200K.

Siwisheswereesh:
All hail pro-Putin luuunatics!!!

The war will soon be one year old and Russia is nowhere near achieving its objectives in Ukraine.

The war in the Donbas region is tough because of the well grounded separatists there.

olugabbie:


The West is the life line of Ukraine. They have been trying to keep Ukraine in the fight.

The Ukrainian counter offensive was a failure. In Kharkov, they fought against very few Russian troops. Russia did not have enough troops to protect both flanks at the same time. So they made the decision to protect Kherson (in the south). They move soldiers from Kharkov to Kherson and Kharkov became vulnerable. This decision gave the Ukrainians the opportunity to seize Kharkov. Ukraine took Kharkov under heavy artillery fire and they lost a lots of soldiers. Russian troops were able to retreat with minimum loses. Immediately the Ukrainians got to Lugansk border, where there were substantial Russian troops they counter offensive stall.

In Kherson, at first Ukraine launch a huge counter offensive in an open terrain. Russian forces retreated and bombarded them with artillery. The Ukrainians lost a lots of soldiers and immediately stopped the huge counter offensive. The later settled for using reconnaissance group to probe Russian defenses. Each time they tried, they loose huge number of the probing forces. If you remember, when Russia said it will withdraw it troops. They Ukrainians said it was a trap. This is because of the experience they hard. Russia was waiting for Ukraine to engage but they never did. They were scared of loosing more soldiers. But when Russia could not sustain it logistics in the Region and Ukraine was not willing to attack. They pull out all their forces with almost zero casualties. This was achieved by Sorovikin (aka Gen Armageddon). Ukraine is no match for Russia. The counter offensive brought more death to the Ukrainians than never before. They took 50% of Kherson. But they could not occupy it, because of Russian artillery. Kharkov will be taken back by Russia definitely.

Now Ukraine has lost the capacity to carry out any major counter offensive. They are waiting their people that are being in NATO countries. They intend to use them in a major counter offensive.
Russia is de-militarising Ukraine by killing it soldiers in large number and destroying it equipments. This explain the reason why Ukraine has gone through several mobilization. While Russia has just done one. Taking the whole country will not profit Russia.. it will be hard for Russia to maintain it. The West will turn the Ukrainians to insurgents like they did in Afghanistan. Russia is interested in taking the East (Donbas, Zaprophizia), South (Kherson), North (Kharkov) and may be Odessa. Then probably turn the other part to Afghanistan.

Siwisheswereesh:


Load of hogwash!!!

Russia have sustained far more casualties in this was than Ukraine. But because they have a far huger population, they will not feel their losses like Ukraine would.

Go and read CBS news and see how Russians are dying in numbers. Even the Ukrainian are wondering how the Russians can be so suicidal. It's a bloodbath. Ukraine would rather withdraw from a battle than suffer heavy losses. And they always say it whenever they do.

My point is that Putin NEVER anticipated that the war will be this long and he has since adjusted his goals to liberating the Donbas following realities on ground.

A new BBC report puts Russia's casualties at over 20,000 wheereas even the EU leader Ms Von De Lying mistakenly revealed last year that over 100,000 Ukrainian troops have died. It is normal for the west to downplay Ukraine's losses and exxergerate Russia's losses but even western leaders are showing serious concerns with Ukraine's astronomical losses. This means something is terribly wrong. You can keep coping in your beliefs because you hate Russia and the western media feeds your indulgence like drug but reality is there.

However, Ukraine don't want to give up the Donbas easily. They believe doing so will allow Russia to ask for more sooner or later.

Siwisheswereesh:


Load of hogwash!!!

Russia have sustained far more casualties in this was than Ukraine. But because they have a far huger population, they will not feel their losses like Ukraine would.

Go and read CBS news and see how Russians are dying in numbers. Even the Ukrainian are wondering how the Russians can be so suicidal. It's a bloodbath. Ukraine would rather withdraw from a battle than suffer heavy losses. And they always say it whenever they do.

My point is that Putin NEVER anticipated that the war will be this long and he has since adjusted his goals to liberating the Donbas following realities on ground.

However, Ukraine don't want to give up the Donbas easily. They believe doing so will allow Russia to ask for more sooner or later.

olugabbie:


The West is the life line of Ukraine. They have been trying to keep Ukraine in the fight.

The Ukrainian counter offensive was a failure. In Kharkov, they fought against very few Russian troops. Russia did not have enough troops to protect both flanks at the same time. So they made the decision to protect Kherson (in the south). They move soldiers from Kharkov to Kherson and Kharkov became vulnerable. This decision gave the Ukrainians the opportunity to seize Kharkov. Ukraine took Kharkov under heavy artillery fire and they lost a lots of soldiers. Russian troops were able to retreat with minimum loses. Immediately the Ukrainians got to Lugansk border, where there were substantial Russian troops they counter offensive stall.

In Kherson, at first Ukraine launch a huge counter offensive in an open terrain. Russian forces retreated and bombarded them with artillery. The Ukrainians lost a lots of soldiers and immediately stopped the huge counter offensive. The later settled for using reconnaissance group to probe Russian defenses. Each time they tried, they loose huge number of the probing forces. If you remember, when Russia said it will withdraw it troops. They Ukrainians said it was a trap. This is because of the experience they hard. Russia was waiting for Ukraine to engage but they never did. They were scared of loosing more soldiers. But when Russia could not sustain it logistics in the Region and Ukraine was not willing to attack. They pull out all their forces with almost zero casualties. This was achieved by Sorovikin (aka Gen Armageddon). Ukraine is no match for Russia. The counter offensive brought more death to the Ukrainians than never before. They took 50% of Kherson. But they could not occupy it, because of Russian artillery. Kharkov will be taken back by Russia definitely.

Now Ukraine has lost the capacity to carry out any major counter offensive. They are waiting their people that are being in NATO countries. They intend to use them in a major counter offensive.
Russia is de-militarising Ukraine by killing it soldiers in large number and destroying it equipments. This explain the reason why Ukraine has gone through several mobilization. While Russia has just done one. Taking the whole country will not profit Russia.. it will be hard for Russia to maintain it. The West will turn the Ukrainians to insurgents like they did in Afghanistan. Russia is interested in taking the East (Donbas, Zaprophizia), South (Kherson), North (Kharkov) and may be Odessa. Then probably turn the other part to Afghanistan.

olugabbie:


The West is the life line of Ukraine. They have been trying to keep Ukraine in the fight.

The Ukrainian counter offensive was a failure. In Kharkov, they fought against very few Russian troops. Russia did not have enough troops to protect both flanks at the same time. So they made the decision to protect Kherson (in the south). They move soldiers from Kharkov to Kherson and Kharkov became vulnerable. This decision gave the Ukrainians the opportunity to seize Kharkov. Ukraine took Kharkov under heavy artillery fire and they lost a lots of soldiers. Russian troops were able to retreat with minimum loses. Immediately the Ukrainians got to Lugansk border, where there were substantial Russian troops they counter offensive stall.

In Kherson, at first Ukraine launch a huge counter offensive in an open terrain. Russian forces retreated and bombarded them with artillery. The Ukrainians lost a lots of soldiers and immediately stopped the huge counter offensive. The later settled for using reconnaissance group to probe Russian defenses. Each time they tried, they loose huge number of the probing forces. If you remember, when Russia said it will withdraw it troops. They Ukrainians said it was a trap. This is because of the experience they hard. Russia was waiting for Ukraine to engage but they never did. They were scared of loosing more soldiers. But when Russia could not sustain it logistics in the Region and Ukraine was not willing to attack. They pull out all their forces with almost zero casualties. This was achieved by Sorovikin (aka Gen Armageddon). Ukraine is no match for Russia. The counter offensive brought more death to the Ukrainians than never before. They took 50% of Kherson. But they could not occupy it, because of Russian artillery. Kharkov will be taken back by Russia definitely.

Now Ukraine has lost the capacity to carry out any major counter offensive. They are waiting their people that are being in NATO countries. They intend to use them in a major counter offensive.
Russia is de-militarising Ukraine by killing it soldiers in large number and destroying it equipments. This explain the reason why Ukraine has gone through several mobilization. While Russia has just done one. Taking the whole country will not profit Russia.. it will be hard for Russia to maintain it. The West will turn the Ukrainians to insurgents like they did in Afghanistan. Russia is interested in taking the East (Donbas, Zaprophizia), South (Kherson), North (Kharkov) and may be Odessa. Then probably turn the other part to Afghanistan.