FxMasterz:


2Pet.3.15-16
"And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction."

1Cor.2.14
"But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned."

Antichristian,
Legalwolf
Drlateef

We have told you the writers largely wrote without any spirit of God anywhere as Luke 1:1-4 said:
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

1. What does "Many" in red above mean?
2. What does the bolded Green Sentence mean?
3. What does the bolded blue sentence mean?

Luke is one of the Gospels! If it is clear like day that it was written as such then all these Peter/Paul's Letters to the Corinthians you are reading that are not Gospels are far worse!

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ started with 12, yes but as of the time of His death, he had many more.

Show me where he appointed them like he did the 12?

Dtruthspeaker:


You are the ones who are the evil pigs with only a slight difference between yourselves and the dirty stark raving mad man we see on the streets.

Anuofia! You don reach here with your madness cum inanity!
Na your colleague be that!

LegalWolf:
LOL? Is it FxMasterz post I am responding to? Hahahahaha ?

And is it a potential thief that you expect me to spending my time explaining ethical concepts to? Oh mind you, remind me of the title of this post please? And tell me how it bears logical implication to your questions?

TenQnih the future thief. Hahahahahahaha
LOL!
cc: Potential Thief TenQ

Your strategy is that you want me to CHANGE the subject and spank you and Mohammed in return, but I wont.

Face the question:

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

BACK TO BUSINESS'

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"

For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!

LegalWolf:


LOL But FxMasterz, you and I all know that the Bible is (grossly, inherently and imperfecly) imperfect. Isn't it? That should make us all smile and be happy.

Looooool. Lawrence Anninih, oh TenQnih the future thief

The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH

Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"

For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!

AntiChristian:


We have told you the writers largely wrote without any spirit of God anywhere as Luke 1:1-4 said:
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

1. What does "Many" in red above mean?
2. What does the bolded Green Sentence mean?
3. What does the bolded blue sentence mean?

Luke is one of the Gospels! If it is clear like day that it was written as such then all these Peter/Paul's Letters to the Corinthians you are reading that are not Gospels are far worse!

Explain to me what you understand by the sentence "..all scripture is given by the inspiration of God." I think a misunderstanding of this scripture is the basis of your errornous position.

AntiChristian:
Show me where he appointed them like he did the 12?

So where it is written in the Gospel that Jesus Christ sent put 72 of His disciples, you believe that a farce because the writer did not include their beginnings as he did the first 12?

And even though Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to make disciples of those in the world, you think it all a farce since there is no Jesus Christ in the flesh to physically appoint them like it was written of the first 12?

Kobojunkie:
So where it is written in the Gospel that Jesus Christ sent put 72 of His disciples, you believe that a farce because the writer did not include their beginnings as he did the first 12?

And even though Jesus Christ sent His disciples out to make disciples of those in the world, you think it all a farce since there is no Jesus Christ in the flesh to physically appoint them like it was written of the first 12?

I asked a simple question, How many disciples did Jesus appointed?

Show us were they were appointed?

If the disciples got disciples then that's another generation of disciples!

AntiChristian:
■ I asked a simple question, How many disciples did Jesus appointed? Show us were they were appointed?
■ If the disciples got disciples then that's another generation of disciples!

Jesus Christ appointed everyone who is a disciples of His when He asked His disciples to go into the world and make disciples of those in the world. This is found in all four Gospels.

2. Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that in the Kingdom of God, He alone is Master, Teacher, Lord, Authority, King, Head, Shepherd, guide....and He also made it abundantly clear to all of His followers that they cannot occupy a place of leadership over their fellow men meaning they cannot sit as masters over others in His Kingdom. What that translates to is that when He sent out to make disciples, they knew to make disciples for their master and not for themselves.

“Volume of words” won’t save you. I’m not less than 3 sentences, please show us the logical connection between all you’ve written and this topic?

Just three sentences (and don’t bore us with your useless words m)

TenQ:

The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH

Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"

For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serous impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!

Cc: FxMasterz

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ appointed everyone who is a disciples of His when He asked His disciples to go into the world and make disciples of those in the world. This is found in all four Gospels.

2. Jesus Christ made it abundantly clear that in the Kingdom of God, He alone is Master, Teacher, Lord, Authority, King, Head, Shepherd, guide....and He also made it abundantly clear to all of His followers that they cannot occupy a place of leadership over their fellow men meaning they cannot sit as masters over others in His Kingdom. What that translates to is that when He sent out to make disciples, they knew to make disciples for their master and not for themselves.

In Matthew 9:9 Matthew was appointed as a disciple! Others too were at one time appointed and ate with Jesus!

Thank you for your time sha!

AntiChristian:
In Matthew 9:9 Matthew was appointed as a disciple! Others too were at one time appointed and ate with Jesus! Thank you for your time sha!

Others were not appointed by Him but were sent out to do the same work by Him?

FxMasterz:


Explain to me what you understand by the sentence "..all scripture is given by the inspiration of God." I think a misunderstanding of this scripture is the basis of your errornous position.

The letter of Paul which contains his opinions and the history book written by Luke and Mark are part of the scripture on that Timothy verse you quoted?

I asked a question which you refused to answer!

Answer it then we continue!

FxMasterz:


When we say the Bible is imperfect, it's because of the human involvement. Humans aren't perfect but God uses human imperfections to achieve His goals in the world. Do you understand this scripture below?
…..

Lol, why struggling to explain the obvious. We both agree that the Bible is (grossly, completely and absolutely) imperfect.

Your explanation of human involvement does not cut it for me. God can perfect all things but cannot perfect his message to humanity. Abegiiiiii!

On the Quran, there is nothing similar in your religion to compare with. What we can compare to the Bible is probably our fabricated (not sahih or da’if but fa I rated) Hadith.

I have absolutely nothing to discuss with you. And thank you again for having the courage to tell us the Bible is an imperfect book. God bless you!

Cc: Potential Thief TenQ

LegalWolf:
■ Lol, why struggling to explain the obvious. We both agree that the Bible is (grossly, completely and absolutely) imperfect. Your explanation of human involvement does not cut it for me. God can perfect all things but cannot perfect his message to humanity. Abegiiiiii!
■ On the Quran, there is nothing similar in your religion to compare with. What we can compare to the Bible is probably our fabricated (not sahih or da’if but fa I rated) Hadith. I have absolutely nothing to discuss with you. And thank you again for having the courage to tell us the Bible is an imperfect book. God bless you!

1. Scripture was written by humans in human language for consumption by human minds utilizing human language comprehension skills. So, what part of this leads you to believe God required a perfecting of the message?

2. Fabricated by the human beings who wrote it? Well, that can pretty much be applied to most all knowledge out there, including the one you claim, don't you see?

LegalWolf:
“Volume of words” won’t save you. I’m not less than 3 sentences, please show us the logical connection between all you’ve written and this topic?

Just three sentences (and don’t bore us with your useless words m)



Cc: FxMasterz

Please, don't change the subject as I wont allow you


The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH

Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"

For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serious impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!

MrCodeSolo:
Ask a Christian a question about Jesus, and he might answer you with a quotation from Paul. But who tells us Paul speaks for Jesus? Why do we need Paul to speak for Jesus when Jesus speaks for himself? Why do we need Paul to speak for Jesus when Jesus himself warns us: “Be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time?” (Mark 13:23). If Jesus has told us all we need to know, why do we need someone else to add to, or subtract from, what he said? What was Jesus divine message according to the synoptic gospel?

How did Paul's teachings differ from Jesus?
Jesus teaches the works (not grace) that make for our salvation in the Beatitudes (Matt 5,5&7, Lk 6:20-49) and most elaborately in Matt 25:31-46 but Paul preached that salvation is by grace (unmerited gift) in Ep 2:8-9, a concept that Jesus never mentioned or even implied

Paul Contradicts Jesus in so many ways as listed below;

On how one becomes a child of God:

Paul says:
Rom.8
[23] and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
Gal.4
[5] to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.

Jesus says:
John.3
[3] Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is begotten from above,* he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is begotten of the flesh is flesh, and that which is begotten of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Do not marvel that I said to you, `You must be begotten from above.*

* John 3:3 and 3:7 are the author's translations. These differ from the RSV only in the expression "begotten from above" that replaces "born anew' in the RSV. "Born anew" does not represent the fullness of what Jesus is stating here, and does not correspond to the literal translation of the Greek, anothen (a()nwqen).

On the number and identity of teachers:

Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,


Jesus says:
Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.



On being justified:

Paul says:
Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.


Jesus says:
Matt.12
[37] for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.


On sacrifices to God:

Paul says:
1Cor.5
[7] For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed.
Eph.5
[2] And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

Jesus says:
Matt.9
[13] Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.'


On remuneration for preaching the gospel:

Paul says:
1Tim.5
[17] Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching;
[18] for the scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages.
1Cor.9
[11] If we have sown spiritual good among you, is it too much if we reap your material benefits?
[12] If others share this rightful claim upon you, do not we still more?


Jesus says:
Matt.10
[7] And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
[8] Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.




On the God of the dead:

Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;


On the time of the coming of the Lord:

Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.


Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.




Christians are indoctrinated, that the Good news means the whole new testaments, despite Paul didn’t preach the good news of the kingdom gospel, but the Grace of God gospel.
Christians are indoctrinated, that everything in the bible is from God, nothing else but truth , despite God said, Job friends spoke falsely about God.

Christians are trained to accept everything in the bible , doubting and questioning the validity of the teaching are considered heresy , Those whom dare to ask will be subjected to modern persecutions such as excommunicated, shunned, demoted, kick out from church ministries.
Church have no basic concept of truth and subsequently don’t know how to verify the truth, believing in contradictions is norm just like the ones mentioned above, for example: Christians believe it is impossible to be righteous, but at the same time also believe that Noah and Jobs are righteous persons.
Church encourage people to read the bible, but don’t have idea on how it should be read and learned, manipulated interpretations to fit man's made doctrines, Paul letters could contradict Jesus words

Main stream churches foundation mostly based on Paul teaching, criticizing Paul means criticizing the church, everybody get offended, they will perceive it as an attempt to destroy the church. Not realizing that God's truth can't be build upon false foundation. when you have actually come to the point of discerning the bible truth regardless of whether you believe that Paul teaches the same as Jesus, it is to me pretty clear if you compare them side by side. As listed and mentioned above.
And when you lay Paul and Jesus teaching side by side, It is definitely like comparing synthetic grass over real grass, we the non-Christians know synthetic grass is different than real grass, but a Christian would blindly agree that synthetic or real grass are still grass and so is the pauline-doctrines to Jesus true and divine message.

The Greatest lie Paul told is on the Sonship of Jesus.

He said it clearly but ALL Christians mixed it and it is right there in the Bible.

Paul said unabashedly that Jesus was the SON of God according to the Gospel he (Paul) preached. There are many Gospels but ONLY his preached that Jesus is the "Son" of God.

Christians read it and just pass it by without giving it a second thought.

Lukuluku69:
■ The Greatest lie Paul told is on the Sonship of Jesus. He said it clearly but ALL Christians mixed it and it is right there in the Bible. Paul said unabashedly that Jesus was the SON of God according to the Gospel he (Paul) preached. There are many Gospels but ONLY his preached that Jesus is the "Son" of God. Christians read it and just pass it by without giving it a second thought.

A. From the Gospels according to Matthew

13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan River. He came to John, wanting John to baptize him.
14 But John tried to stop him. John said, “Why do you come to me to be baptized? I should be baptized by you!”
15 Jesus answered, “Let it be this way for now. We should do whatever God says is right.” Then John agreed.
16 So Jesus was baptized. As soon as he came up out of the water, the sky opened, and he saw God’s Spirit coming down on him like a dove.
17 A voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, the one I love. I am very pleased with him.” - Matthew 3 vs 13 - 17

B. From the Gospel according to Luke

34 While Peter was saying these things, a cloud came all around them. Peter, John, and James were afraid when the cloud covered them. 35 A voice came from the cloud and said, “This is my Son. He is the one I have chosen. Obey him.”
36 When the voice stopped, only Jesus was there. Peter, John, and James said nothing. And for a long time after that, they told no one about what they had seen. - Luke 9 vs 34 - 36

C. From the Gospel according to Mark

9 About that time Jesus came from the town of Nazareth in Galilee to the place where John was. John baptized Jesus in the Jordan River. 10 As Jesus was coming up out of the water, he saw the sky torn open. The Spirit came down on him like a dove.
11 A voice came from heaven and said, “You are my Son, the one I love. I am very pleased with you.” - Mark 1 vs 9 - 11

D Gospel of John records the following

32-34 Then John said this for everyone to hear: “I also did not know who the Messiah was. But the one who sent me to baptize with water told me, ‘You will see the Spirit come down and rest on a man. He is the one who will baptize with the Holy Spirit.’ I have seen this happen. I saw the Spirit come down from heaven like a dove and rest on this man. So this is what I tell people: ‘He is the Son of God.’” - John 1 vs 32 - 34

E. Gospel of John records the following as coming from the Mouth of Jesus Christ Himself.

16 Yes, God loved the world so much that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him would not be lost but have eternal life.
17 God sent his Son into the world. He did not send him to judge the world guilty, but to save the world through him. - John 3 vs 16 - 17

Kobojunkie:
A. From the Gospels according to Matthew
B. From the Gospel according to Luke C. From the Gospel according to Mark
D. Gospel of John records the following as coming from the Mouth of Jesus Christ Himself.

Mama Ogbanje, you have been sighted.

LegalWolf:


Lol, why struggling to explain the obvious. We both agree that the Bible is (grossly, completely and absolutely) imperfect.

Your explanation of human involvement does not cut it for me. God can perfect all things but cannot perfect his message to humanity. Abegiiiiii!

On the Quran, there is nothing similar in your religion to compare with. What we can compare to the Bible is probably our fabricated (not sahih or da’if but fa I rated) Hadith.

I have absolutely nothing to discuss with you. And thank you again for having the courage to tell us the Bible is an imperfect book. God bless you!

Cc: Potential Thief TenQ

God does not superimpose Himself on man. Man has a freewill. God didn't create him as a zombie. God can only pass messages through imperfect men. He doesn't shut down their human elements to express Himself. Satan is the one who does that. Satan would forcefully take control of a man's entire being and use him for his selfish ends. God isn't so. He uses you only to the level at which you make yourself available. God's message to humanity is perfect. The Bible is man's word used to convey God's message. Inside man's imperfect words is God's perfect word. That's why the Bible isn't the Words (plural) of God; it's the Word (singular) of God. The Word is a perfect Word conveyed through the imperfect words of man.
To the ordinary man, the Bible is an ordinary book, but to people who have spiritual discernment, it is the Book of Life.
We're using our limited human language, resources and experience to convey spiritual truths to you. We're imperfect beings but the truth we're conveying carry the fruits of eternal life.
If you're dodging the questions TenQ has been asking you about Allah's scientific blunders in the Quran as well as my Amram-Mary historical problem, your claims about your Quran is deceptive. You're not deceiving us actually but yourself.
May the Lord grant you discernment.

FxMasterz:
■God does not superimpose Himself on man. Man has a freewill. God didn't create him as a zombie. God can only pass messages through imperfect men. He doesn't shut down their human elements to express Himself. Satan is the one who does that. Satan would forcefully take control of a man's entire being and use him for his selfish ends. God isn't so. He uses you only to the level at which you make yourself available. God's message to humanity is perfect. The Bible is man's word used to convey God's message. Inside man's imperfect words is God's perfect word. That's why the Bible isn't the Word[b]s[/b] of God; it's the Word of God. The Word is a perfect Word conveyed through the imperfect words of man.
■ To the ordinary man, the Bible is an ordinary book, but to people who have spiritual discernment, it is the Book of Life. We're using our limited human language, resources and experience to convey spiritual truths to you. We're imperfect beings but the truth we're conveying carry the fruits of eternal life. If you're dodging the questions TenQ has been asking you about Allah's scientific blunders in the Quran as well as my Amram-Mary historical problem, your claims about your Quran is deceptive. You're not deceiving us actually but yourself.
May the Lord grant you discernment.

1. Your Bible is NOT the Word of God. Instead, Jesus Christ is the Word of God — the Word out of God's own mouth. Your bible is instead a compendium of books that contain the views of ordinary men, the lies of satan and demons, in addition of the Word of God. So, it is wrong to assume the book is a perfect or holy book since it cannot any of that.

2. The book itself was written by human minds in human language for consumption by a human audience utilizing what is basic human language comprehension skills.

TenQ:

Please, don't change the subject as I wont allow you


The Bible is WRITTEN by MEN
BUT
THE QURAN is DIRECTLY from ALLAH

Is there any reason for comparison?
Book BY Allah vs Book BY Men



So therefore, we can TEST the validity of THE PERFECT BOOK OF ALLAH
(Didn't Allah challenge Man and Jinn if it is possible to produce a chapter like the Quran?)

CLEARLY YOU CAN DO BETTER BY RESPONDING DIRECTLY TO MY POST
Everything I said is well referenced from your Islamic Literatures.

I said:
No one has asked you to rely on the Bible!

We've only checked out the validity of the Almighty God being the Author of the Quran and its failure mark. The IQ of the writer doesn't exceed the intelligence of an author at par with 16th century arab men.

Some mistakes God can NEVER make:
1. Does the Sun set in any water? (murky or not?)
2. Is the reproductive fluid of the man coming from his backbone?
3. Is the "reproductive fluid" of the man coming from his rib cage? (everyone know that the woman produces ovum not fluid)
4. Did a king Suleiman died Standing for ONE YEAR and no one noticed? (stories told children about solomon entered the Quran!)
5. Allah couldn't even be consistent with what he created FIRST?
6. The Almighty God couldn't have prepared rules for PIMPING and PROSTITUTION in His Book for mankind?
7. The True God wouldnt have given out a Married woman to Mohammed as wife (it is called covetousness)
Exodus 20:17
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor"

For a book that is perfectly preserved as dictated by Jubril to Mohammed!?

How can it be a true book?

If Allah doesn't know that he is supposed to be Yahweh in the Quran, some serious impersonation is going on by the best of the Deceivers!

Three sentences potential thief! Just three!

huptin:
You are just comparing unrelated events together to draw unnecessary conclusions.

There is nothing Paul said there that negates Jesus teachings.

Nah God him dey take style call lair because it is written, "all scripture is inspired of God".

If it's a scripture and you say the writer is a liar then you are saying the inspirer is also a liar.

Thanksful:
■Nah God him dey take style call lair because it is written, "all scripture is inspired of God".
■If it's a scripture and you say the writer is a liar then you are saying the inspirer is also a liar.

1. Paul is not God. Do not in anyway confuse them as being the same.

"All scripture is inspired" does not mean "All scripture is TRUE". You need to understand and realize that scripture contains the accounts of men, lies of satan and demons, opinions of men(which mostly amounts to lies), and the Word of God. I hope you are not of the mind that the words of Satan and his minions are True?

2. Wrong! The writer is a human, and humans are capable of speaking Truth or lies depending on who it is they are "channeling".

“Be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time?” (Mark 13:23).

If everything has been told us, why send the Holy Spirit to teach the truth again?

CodeTemplar:
If everything has been told us, why send the Holy Spirit to teach the truth again?

He was never sent to teach the truth again... He was instead sent to teach the exact same Truth — without even so much a change in any part of it — that Jesus Christ taught to His disciples who were with Him while He was here on earth. This is what Jesus Christ explained in His teachings when He introduced the Helper to come.

a. The Father will send the Spirit of Truth aka the Helper in the Name of Jesus Christ to those who live their lives in submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.
b. Those who live in the world cannot receive or have the Spirit of Truth because they do not have the ability to see or perceive Him in their lack of knowledge(KNOWING) of the Truth of God, Jesus Christ.
c. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will teach the followers of Jesus Christ all things and bring to their remembrance all that Jesus Christ has taught.
d. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will bear witness about Jesus Christ to each of Jesus's own followers.
e. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will convict those who are in the world regarding sin, righteousness, and judgment.
f. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will guide each one of Jesus Christ's followers into all Truth — Jesus Christ — for He will only speak of that which He hears of Jesus Christ and declare that which is to come concerning Jesus Christ(and His Kingdom)
g. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth , will glorify Jesus Christ, for He will take what belongs to Jesus Christ to declare to each of His followers
h. All that the Father has belongs to Jesus Christ and as such the Helper will teach to Jesus Christ's followers only that which is of Jesus Christ.

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Kobojunkie:
He was never sent to teach the truth again... He was instead sent to teach the exact same Truth — without even so much a change in any part of it — that Jesus Christ taught to His disciples who were with Him while He was here on earth. This is what Jesus Christ explained in His teachings when He introduced the Helper to come.
https://www.nairaland.com/7110397/gospel-minddump#116120876

Leave me alone, spirit of strife.

CodeTemplar:
Leave me alone, spirit of strife.

Says the one basking in ignorance, yet obviously confused by it!

Kobojunkie:
Says the one basking in ignorance, yet obviously confused by it!

ignorance metre, who calibrated and commissioned you an ignorance measurnng device?

CodeTemplar:
ignorance metre, who calibrated and commissioned you an ignorance measurnng device?

If after at least 3 years of claiming to know God you have yet to figure out the place and reason for the Spirit of Truth aka the Holy Spirit in the lives of those who belong to Jesus Christ— a Holy being many of you pretend already lives on the inside of you by the way —, then clearly, ignorance is what remains strong with you.

MrCodeSolo:
Ask a Christian a question about Jesus, and he might answer you with a quotation from Paul. But who tells us Paul speaks for Jesus? Why do we need Paul to speak for Jesus when Jesus speaks for himself? Why do we need Paul to speak for Jesus when Jesus himself warns us: “Be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time?” (Mark 13:23). If Jesus has told us all we need to know, why do we need someone else to add to, or subtract from, what he said? What was Jesus divine message according to the synoptic gospel?

How did Paul's teachings differ from Jesus?
Jesus teaches the works (not grace) that make for our salvation in the Beatitudes (Matt 5,5&7, Lk 6:20-49) and most elaborately in Matt 25:31-46 but Paul preached that salvation is by grace (unmerited gift) in Ep 2:8-9, a concept that Jesus never mentioned or even implied

Paul Contradicts Jesus in so many ways as listed below;

On how one becomes a child of God:

Paul says:
Rom.8
[23] and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.
Gal.4
[5] to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.

Jesus says:
John.3
[3] Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is begotten from above,* he cannot see the kingdom of God.
[6] That which is begotten of the flesh is flesh, and that which is begotten of the Spirit is spirit.
[7] Do not marvel that I said to you, `You must be begotten from above.*

* John 3:3 and 3:7 are the author's translations. These differ from the RSV only in the expression "begotten from above" that replaces "born anew' in the RSV. "Born anew" does not represent the fullness of what Jesus is stating here, and does not correspond to the literal translation of the Greek, anothen (a()nwqen).

On the number and identity of teachers:

Paul says:
1Cor.12
[28] And God has appointed in the church first apostles, second prophets, third, teachers,
Eph.4
[11] And his gifts were that some should be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers,
1Tim.2
[7] For this I was appointed a preacher and apostle (I am telling the truth, I am not lying), a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
2Tim.1
[11] For this gospel I was appointed a preacher and apostle and teacher,


Jesus says:
Matt.23
[8] But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brethren.



On being justified:

Paul says:
Rom.3
[24] they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
[28] For we hold that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.
Rom.5
[9] Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.


Jesus says:
Matt.12
[37] for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.


On sacrifices to God:

Paul says:
1Cor.5
[7] For Christ, our paschal lamb, has been sacrificed.
Eph.5
[2] And walk in love, as Christ loved us and gave himself up for us, a fragrant offering and sacrifice to God.

Jesus says:
Matt.9
[13] Go and learn what this means, `I desire mercy, and not sacrifice.'


On remuneration for preaching the gospel:

Paul says:
1Tim.5
[17] Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching;
[18] for the scripture says, "You shall not muzzle an ox when it is treading out the grain," and, "The laborer deserves his wages.
1Cor.9
[11] If we have sown spiritual good among you, is it too much if we reap your material benefits?
[12] If others share this rightful claim upon you, do not we still more?


Jesus says:
Matt.10
[7] And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.'
[8] Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay.




On the God of the dead:

Paul says:
Rom.14
[9] For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Jesus says:
Luke.20
[38] Now he is not God of the dead, but of the living;


On the time of the coming of the Lord:

Paul says:
Rom.13
[12] the night is far gone, the day is at hand.


Jesus says:
Luke.21
[8] Take heed that you are not led astray; for many will come in my name,
saying, . . . `The time is at hand!' Do not go after them.




Christians are indoctrinated, that the Good news means the whole new testaments, despite Paul didn’t preach the good news of the kingdom gospel, but the Grace of God gospel.
Christians are indoctrinated, that everything in the bible is from God, nothing else but truth , despite God said, Job friends spoke falsely about God.

Christians are trained to accept everything in the bible , doubting and questioning the validity of the teaching are considered heresy , Those whom dare to ask will be subjected to modern persecutions such as excommunicated, shunned, demoted, kick out from church ministries.
Church have no basic concept of truth and subsequently don’t know how to verify the truth, believing in contradictions is norm just like the ones mentioned above, for example: Christians believe it is impossible to be righteous, but at the same time also believe that Noah and Jobs are righteous persons.
Church encourage people to read the bible, but don’t have idea on how it should be read and learned, manipulated interpretations to fit man's made doctrines, Paul letters could contradict Jesus words

Main stream churches foundation mostly based on Paul teaching, criticizing Paul means criticizing the church, everybody get offended, they will perceive it as an attempt to destroy the church. Not realizing that God's truth can't be build upon false foundation. when you have actually come to the point of discerning the bible truth regardless of whether you believe that Paul teaches the same as Jesus, it is to me pretty clear if you compare them side by side. As listed and mentioned above.
And when you lay Paul and Jesus teaching side by side, It is definitely like comparing synthetic grass over real grass, we the non-Christians know synthetic grass is different than real grass, but a Christian would blindly agree that synthetic or real grass are still grass and so is the pauline-doctrines to Jesus true and divine message.

Even if you are right, who are You? What are you doing that is life changing/ revolutionary? Nothing! You are just “One Pothole Digging nonsensical saying Wannabe” who will be remembered for nothing while Paul whom you attack will continue to be known decades after you are long gone and forgotten.
Mr go and get a Life, certainly Paul is never your problem, Nigeria is more of a problem for you while alive.

TAYO124:
■Even if you are right, who are You? What are you doing that is life changing/ revolutionary? Nothing! You are just “One Pothole Digging nonsensical saying Wannabe” who will be remembered for nothing while Paul whom you attack will continue to be known decades after you are long gone and forgotten. Mr go and get a Life, certainly Paul is never your problem, Nigeria is more of a problem for you while alive.

1. By attacking him you prove some of his points correct which is that many of you are blind to see that what Paul speaks of in his letters aren't exactly the very same things taught by Jesus Christ in His Gospel of the Kingdom of God.