Upworkwriter007:
■ I still don't get your point. Right from the first one you made. You want me to prove my believe in christ to you? really? Nah! I never do that. Preaching is different from proving. I didn't make a claim, I spoke a fact about my life. And I made it clear to you that if you have any question regarding this, ask directly. But any indirect connotation to make me prove to you that I believe christ? never! 2 Timothy 2:23-24 should help

1. Prove? You said the truth isn't until after this life for you, so why would I ask you to prove anything?

Elidrisy20:
Is either you become a gay, denounce Christianity and embrace Islam, or you go to hell

Islam is the most evil religion in the world. Muhammad was a gay himself and not a jew which makes that whole religion bs.

SIRTee15:


The question is did renaissance era reject Christianity or not? The answer is BIG NO.
If u insist they did, then produce the evidence, u are the one confusing European history.
What was rejected in renaissance was Catholic papal institutions inordinate influence in people's life which is not Christianity in the first place but a practice similar to the modern day shariah law.
People wanted to think, be able to read the bible and decide for themselves, NOT what the pope said.

I told you the inventor of the printing press machine published the bible en masse so people could see the truth by themselves.

Which was Europe was democratic at the onset of renaissance?
The bill of rights and Napoleon rebellion were what brought about establishment of democratic institutions in Europe.
Prior to that, Europe was largely feudal and deeply monarchy.
Go and read about the English civil war in the 17th century and french revolution the following century - what has religion got to do with that?

It's obvious u don't know anything about Queen Isabella for u to parrot the nonsense u wrote about her.
She hates slavery and banned the practice in her kingdom. When Christopher Columbus brought her slaves as gift from his voyage, she told him to return them and banned him from repeating such.

20th June 1500 The Queen orders the return of slaves with their possessions. She payes all their expenses. Before the next voyage, the Queen tells him in no uncertain terms: “Do not bring back slaves” (9 May, 1502).

This a letter she wrote to a governor in new territory.

Letter from Isabel Queen of Castille to the Governor of the Indies. She indicated that they should ´encourage and reward the Indians for conversing with Christians; they should not be vagabonds, they should work and be paid a daily wage, as the free persons they are, and not like slaves, and no one should harm them in any way or make them suffer any misfortune; and on feast days they should get together to be taught the Faith.

She even wrote it in her will that natives in new Territories should not be enslaved.
“do not give rise to or allow the Indians [indigenous Americans] to receive any wrong in their persons and property, but rather that they be treated well and fairly, and if they have received any wrong, remedy it'

Columbus and other voyagers never said they were seeking new territories for God, their intention was wealth and treasures. Focus your grievance in the right direction.
https://www.piccavey.com/queen-isabella-of-castile/#:~:text=Queen%20Isabella%20was%20against%20slavery,listen%20to%20the%20Queens%20orders.

If u have no evidence, pls do not continue this conversation because u know nothing about European or Christian history maybe except what was told u in the mosque. I want to read facts and not emotions.
Thank you.

I already told you this is a period spanning more than 1,400 years. Any event occuring from 400 AD to 1800 AD. Anything in between is an effect of the dark ages, so even the renaissance itself was an effect. Again, see the timeline stated in my first post.

And what you're quoting about queen Isabella is most likely doctored history being fed to people from the time slavery began to be seen as evil and everyone began to deny their role. That's when such papers began flying around by people trying to exonerate themselves. Unfortunately, you don't even know that because you think every information they give you is legitimate.

On the contrary, Isabella SPONSORED slavery. Yes, Colombus said in his diary that the people he kidnapped from West Africa were returned after serving some years of labor in Europe under the order of Isabella. So, clearly, every single wealth acquired by Columbus was for Queen Isabella and the Portuguese king. Because they funded his voyage!

In fact, before Columbus left for his first trip, Isabella and co divided the map of the world into two (East and West) saying that whatever is found on the western hemisphere belong to Isabella, while everything found on the Eastern hemisphere belong to the king.

Remember that "everything" wasn't just natural resources in the nations but it included people living in those lands.

How could she have authorized theft and slavery in foreign lands and at the same time be against it? It doesn't make sense.

God1000:
They are not practicing Christianity, this is unconscionable

We have too many misguided Christian leaders these days

Which other religion worship in the church?

Kobojunkie:
1. Prove? You said the truth isn't until after this life for you, so why would I ask you to prove anything?

Ha! See why i was complaining of comprehension issues. GO back to the posts and read it all.

CartelKenneth:



The same English folk that created God is now telling you that he allows homosexuals and you’re still doubting

When I see narratives like dis,I just say OK

siofra:


Seriously I wonder what goes on in the head of people who still believe the creation story.

After countless advancement in science and proof that evolution took place and is still taking place, you still believe that?

Bia this woman, respect yourself and keep your believe to yourself
Believe whatever suits your narrative and let others be,if You say there's no God,that one na your own palava,why you dey get headache for people wey Believe in The One True Living God creator of Man and Spirits,Onye na-enye aku-na uba na ogaranya

Kobojunkie:
So because you are ignorant of its existence means those who speak of it are lying? I suggest you crawl back in the hole where you came from so mature individuals can tall abeg!

Lol,how matured are you,what is your evidence it happens now and where specifically?

If you are not able to prove then you are the amateur person

musicwriter:


I already told you this is a period spanning more than 1,400 years. Any event occuring from 400 AD to 1800 AD. Anything in between is an effect of the dark ages, so even the renaissance itself was an effect. Again, see the timeline stated in my first post.

And what you're quoting about queen Isabella is most likely doctored history being fed to people from the time slavery began to be seen as evil and everyone began to deny their role. That's when such papers began flying around by people trying to exonerate themselves. Unfortunately, you don't even know that because you think every information they give you is legitimate.

On the contrary, Isabella SPONSORED slavery. Yes, Colombus said in his diary that the people he kidnapped from West Africa were returned after serving some years of labor in Europe under the order of Isabella. So, clearly, every single wealth acquired by Columbus was for Queen Isabella and the Portuguese king. Because they funded his voyage!

In fact, before Columbus left for his first trip, Isabella and co divided the map of the world into two (East and West) saying that whatever is found on the western hemisphere belong to Isabella, while everything found on the Eastern hemisphere belong to the king.

Remember that "everything" wasn't just natural resources in the nations but it included people living in those lands.

How could she have authorized theft and slavery in foreign lands and at the same time be against it? It doesn't make sense.

Produce evidence or shut up. Google is free.
Thanks

ogunprince18:

Islam is the most evil religion in the world. Muhammad was a gay himself and not a jew which makes that whole religion bs.

you never see gay mosque nau, very soon your pastor go marry your papa

SIRTee15:


Produce evidence or shut up. Google is free.
Thanks

I don't engage in stupidity and insults. Yet, you know so little that you have no idea who funded Christopher Columbus's first voyage?

Oh! Yes, google is free. Go to Google and search "who funded Christopher Columbus's first voyage?" Or maybe "who sponsored Christopher Columbus's first voyage?"

Do that and gain information about how Queen Isabella, king Ferdinand and your God Jesus were used to rob and enslave people across the world.

Just a sneak peak to get you started, the US bill of rights site says "Christopher Columbus made landfall on an island in what is now the Bahamas on October 12, 1492, after setting sail from Spain about two months earlier. He continued to explore the Caribbean, conquering the lands in the name of God, Spain, and his benefactors, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella"

Follow the lead to widen your knowledge on this topic and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

I think I am done with you.

musicwriter:


I don't engage in stupidity and insults. Yet, you know so little that you have no idea who funded Christopher Columbus's first voyage?

Oh! Yes, google is free. Go to Google and search "who funded Christopher Columbus's first voyage?" Or maybe "who sponsored Christopher Columbus's first voyage?"

Do that and gain information about how Queen Isabella, king Ferdinand and your God Jesus were used to rob and enslave people across the world.

Just a sneak peak to get you started, the US bill of rights site says "Christopher Columbus made landfall on an island in what is now the Bahamas on October 12, 1492, after setting sail from Spain about two months earlier. He continued to explore the Caribbean, conquering the lands in the name of God, Spain, and his benefactors, King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella"

Follow the lead to widen your knowledge on this topic and you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.

I think I am done with you.

My first mention clearly stated who sponsored Christopher Columbus n the reason behind it. I don't understand this strawman argument u trying to come up with.
The bone of contention is did Isabella supported slavery. Bring evidence.
Sorry if u couldn't find anything. Next time, say nothing about what u know little about. Not everybody is dumb here.

God1000:
They are not practicing Christianity, this is unconscionable

We have too many misguided Christian leaders these days

But you were encouraging female bishops the other day. Na from clap e dey enter dance.

francom:
The world is gravitating towards its end. Christians world wide should be mindful of where their allegiance are-whether God or the tainted doctrines by the people who have become political and worldly in their thinking and decision making.
This is really unacceptable. If the Nigeria Anglican follows suit, I know many believer will shun "their churches"

You can't know more than the people that gave you the religion.

No be you from Africa go tell them about their own religion. Just dey look and observe

The ONLY way for you and I to saved , JESUS CHRIST is available.
Don't deceive yourself. Without JESUS CHRIST, you will go to Hell Fire.

drlateef:





What remains of Christianity now? Just tell me!!!

Holiness2100:
The ONLY way for you and I to saved , JESUS CHRIST is available.
Don't deceive yourself. Without JESUS CHRIST, you will go to Hell Fire.

I am afraid what you claim isn't entirely of Truth.

According to scripture, except a man is a born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - either through the Broad gate which leads to destruction(Hellfire) or the Narrow Gate which leads to True Life(Heaven) at its end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30 - meaning that all those who will end up in either of Hell or Heaven must be born-again. After all, only those who are born-again have eternal life which is a requirement for either Heaven(eternal reward) or Hellfire(eternal damnation) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 36.

You should seriously be afraid for your soul becos the path you are heading to is the path of Hell.

Knowingly or unknowingly, you are a kind of instrument and tool box in the hands of the devil.

I earnestly pray for you that GOD Show you MERCY and rescue you before it is too late.

Kobojunkie:
I am afraid what you claim isn't entirely of Truth.

According to scripture, except a man is a born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - either through the Broad gate which leads to destruction(Hellfire) or the Narrow Gate which leads to True Life(Heaven) at its end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30 - meaning that all those who will end up in either of Hell or Heaven must be born-again. After all, only those who are born-again have eternal life which is a requirement for either Heaven(eternal reward) or Hellfire(eternal damnation) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 36.

Holiness2100:
You should seriously be afraid for your soul becos the path you are heading to is the path of Hell. Knowingly or unknowingly, you are a kind of instrument and tool box in the hands of the devil. I earnestly pray for you that GOD Show you MERCY and rescue you before it is too late.

Stop yammering hiding what are your private delusions behind the name or God!

Again, I am afraid what you claim isn't entirely of Truth.

According to scripture, except a man is a born-again, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God - John 3 vs 1 - 8 - either through the Broad gate which leads to destruction(Hellfire) or the Narrow Gate which leads to True Life(Heaven) at its end - Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30 - meaning that all those who will end up in either of Hell or Heaven must be born-again. After all, only those who are born-again have eternal life which is a requirement for either Heaven(eternal reward) or Hellfire(eternal damnation) - Matthew 25 vs 31 - 36.

Holiness2100:
The ONLY way for you and I to saved , JESUS CHRIST is available.
Don't deceive yourself. Without JESUS CHRIST, you will go to Hell Fire.

Jesus christ cannot save the homosexuals among Christians to the extent that they will be marrying in front of Jesus alter. What an embarrassment!!! What an abomination!!! What a sacrilege!!!!

siofra:


What is wrong with modification? What's wrong with development and positive change?

Is the black man cursed to stay backwards forever

What is this one saying, is clear you are one of those same sex advocate 😆
Go and sleep small child 😅