Janosky:


OgaNightmare hallucination & delusion.

Nairaland is an online public forum NOT a mental health rehab.

Oga, for the sake of your sanity and wellness, on behalf of Nairaland forum,we dey beg, pls go back to the Asylum you escaped from.

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MightySparrow:

You see am so?
If you are different from their dogma you are an apostate.
They sit in the seat of a judge.

I may ignore you and your questions but when you err about our beliefs i will correct you!

The person you're responding to knows the truth that we don't call anyone who has not been a JW "Apostates"
For instance you are an unbeliever to me that's why i often answer you differently but after discovering that you're just out to create tension i decided to let you be.
So you're not an Apostate until you get baptized as one of JWs and turn back that's when you can rightly be called "APOSTATE"

Why should any topic about JW results to fight and insults on this forum...it is either exJW insults JW or either way..Is it that you guys were thought about how to insult or the gospel can't be preached in peace?

Is it that when somebody leaves the assembly he will be a castaway and ridiculed and called names? Or if still in the assemble he will be ridiculed and called names too?

All those exJWs is there anything good about the organization?...if yes can you guys please tell us?....and if no please tell us the negative things about them.

zoer:

Why should any topic about JW results to fight and insults on this forum

Thanks for this question!

Well the answer is simple, Jesus said:

“But before all these things happen, people will lay their hands on you and persecute you, handing you over to the synagogues and prisons. You will be brought before kings and governors for the sake of my name". Luke 21:12

The reason why all these people with different doctrines and opinions often converge to oppose JWs is because only JWs are the true Christians!

Note that oteneaaron doesn't even believe Jesus is real, in fact according to him anyone claiming faith in Jesus is a fool and sparrow claims he's a pentecostal yet at the mention of "JWs" they quickly become friends! Luke 23:12

zoer:

All those exJWs is there anything good about the organization?...if yes can you guys please tell us?....and if no please tell us the negative things about them.

If you're buying something from someone and you later discovered his stuff aren't good for you sebi you will move to another seller of the stuff?
Please help me ask Templee333 and oteneaaron where they now worship after leaving JW organization!

MaxInDHouse:


I may ignore you and your questions but when you err about our beliefs i will correct you!

The person you're responding to knows the truth that we don't call anyone who has not been a JW "Apostates"
For instance you are an unbeliever to me that's why i often answer you differently but after discovering that you're just out to create tension i decided to let you be.
So you're not an Apostate until you get baptized as one of JWs and turn back that's when you can rightly be called "APOSTATE"

I will watch again the video where Stephen Lett called people apostates.

zoer:

Is it that when somebody leaves the assembly he will be a castaway and ridiculed and called names? Or if still in the assemble he will be ridiculed and called names too?

Oh yes.

If you leave the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses, you will be called -

- An Apostate

- A Child of the Devil or Satan

- Faithless Miscreant, etc.

zoer:
All those exJWs is there anything good about the organization?...if yes can you guys please tell us?....and if no please tell us the negative things about them.

If the foundation of a building is faulty, no matter how beautiful the house looks, it will most definitely fall.

From the outside, the Jehovah's Witness Organization looks all sweet, holy and blameless.

But a little research into their true origins and over 140 years of history tells a completely different story.

How can "the only true religion" be exposed for teaching lies?

Is that not an abberation?

OgaNightmare:

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MaxInDHouse:

Note that oteneaaron doesn't even believe Jesus is real, in fact according to him anyone claiming faith in Jesus is a fool and sparrow claims he's a pentecostal yet at the mention of "JWs" they quickly become friends! Luke 23:12

MaxInDHouse can you show the evidence of where I have called people who believe in Jesus "Fools"?

For everyone reading this, I have done my own in-depth research into the ancient history of religion, and I still haven't seen any tangible archeological proof that shows Jesus really existed.

Instead, my research points more to the fact that the story of Jesus is only a myth that teaches the allegorical concept that there is a spark of divinity in every man and woman.

For better context, Max and I had a debate around this subject and he couldn't show me any proof either.

Here is a link to the debate - https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

MightySparrow:

I will watch again the video where Stephen Lett called people apostates.

Go and watch again and again and again we only refer to ex-jws as Apostates not nonejws.

oteneaaron:

MaxInDHouse can you show the evidence of where I have called people who believe in Jesus "Fools"? For everyone reading this, I have done my own in-depth research into the ancient history of religion, and I still haven't seen any tangible archeological proof that shows Jesus really existed. Instead, my research points more to the fact that the story of Jesus is only a myth that teaches the allegorical concept that there is a spark of divinity in every man and woman. For better context, Max and I had a debate around this subject and he couldn't show me any proof either. Here is a link to the debate - https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

Are Jesus' believers wise?

MaxInDHouse:


Are Jesus' believers wise?

Lol

What a rhetorical question.

Wisdom like many other things, is relative.

For example - As a Jehovah's Witness, you believe that your Jesus is Angel Micheal who came back to earth invisibly in 1919 - does that make you wise?

oteneaaron:

Lol
What a rhetorical question.
Wisdom like many other things, is relative.
For example - As a Jehovah's Witness, you believe that your Jesus is Angel Micheal who came back to earth invisibly in 1919 - does that make you wise?

You stylishly dodge the question just to cover with another thing entirely.

The question again:

Whatever they concluded before gathering, preaching and worshiping in Jesus name are Jesus' believers wise?

Of course as a JW 1919 has made us wise but you have to answer the question before we digress!

MaxInDHouse:


You stylishly dodge the question just to cover with another thing entirely.

The question again:

Whatever they concluded before gathering, preaching and worshiping in Jesus name are Jesus' believers wise?

Of course as a JW 1919 has made us wise but you have to answer the question before we digress!

I didn't dodge the question because it is not a Yes or No question.

It is rhetorical and that is why I told you that wisdom is relative.

Moreover, the Jesus you believe in is quite different from the Jesus other Christians believe in.

And since you have agreed that your belief in the Angel Micheal Jesus who came back to earth invisibly in 1919 makes you wise, I have no right to argue.

Why?

I repeat once again: Wisdom is relative.

OK i'll rephrase it.

Do you think any group claiming Christians are making any sense to you?

oteneaaron:


I didn't dodge the question because it is not a Yes or No question.

It is rhetorical and that is why I told you that wisdom is relative.

Moreover, the Jesus you believe in is quite different from the Jesus other Christians believe in.

And since you have agreed that your belief in the Angel Micheal Jesus who came back to earth invisibly in 1919 makes you wise, I have no right to argue.

Why?

I repeat once again: Wisdom is relative.

MaxInDHouse:
OK i'll rephrase it.

Do you think any group claiming Christians are making any sense to you?

"Any group" is no group at all.

I still repeat - wisdom is relative.

Moreover like your previous question, this isn't a Yes or No question.

oteneaaron:

"Any group" is no group at all.
I still repeat - wisdom is relative.
Moreover like your previous question, this isn't a Yes or No question.

oteneaaron:

Interesting.
Thank you for reminding me about updating the thread you mentioned above.
Sonmvayina, I think we should resume our book review - what do you think?

Shame on you and all your friends claiming CHRISTIANS as you can't answer the question.

For your information there is no way you can be wise if you're not a believer in Christ Jesus because he is the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so a disciple of Christ even though 10 years of age is a million times wiser than you and your cohorts who disbelieve the Christ!

MaxInDHouse:


Shame on you and all your friends claiming CHRISTIANS as you can't answer the question.

For your information there is no way you can be wise if you're not a believer in Christ Jesus because he is the most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so a disciple of Christ even though 10 years of age is a million times wiser than you and your cohorts who disbelieve the Christ!

Hahahahahaha

Shame on you too for trying so hard to force words out of my mouth.

You failed woefully.

I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.

You can take it to the bank and deposit it.

MaxInDHouse:


Go and watch again and again and again we only refer to ex-jws as Apostates not nonejws.

Ok

oteneaaron:

Hahahahahaha
Shame on you too for trying so hard to force words out of my mouth.
You failed woefully.
I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.
You can take it to the bank and deposit it.

OLÓDO!

This is the definition of WISDOM:

©The discretionary use of knowledge for the greatest good.

©The ability to apply relevant knowledge in an insightful way, especially to different situations from that in which the knowledge was gained.

©The ability to make a decision based on the combination of knowledge, experience, and intuitive understanding.

Therefore WISDOM is the practical application of useful information which results in lasting benefits.
So it's not relative it's either you're wise or foolish!

MaxInDHouse:


OLÓDO!

This is the definition of WISDOM:

©The discretionary use of knowledge for the greatest good.

©The ability to apply relevant knowledge in an insightful way, especially to different situations from that in which the knowledge was gained.

©The ability to make a decision based on the combination of knowledge, experience, and intuitive understanding.

Therefore WISDOM is the practical application of useful information which results in lasting benefits.
So it's not relative it's either you're wise or foolish!

You see your life?

With all your "wisdom", you can never hold a conversation without raining insults on the other party.

I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.

If you have no idea what that means, then you might have to go back to school.

OK calling you a dullard means raining insults shey?

Well that's your personal opinion but it's either you're wise or foolish no sitting on the fence!

oteneaaron:

You see your life?
With all your "wisdom", you can never hold a conversation without raining insults on the other party.
I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.
If you have no idea what that means, then you might have to go back to school.

MaxInDHouse:
OK calling you a dullard means raining insults shey?

Well that's your personal opinion but it's either you're wise or foolish no sitting on the fence!

Just look at the result of all your "Wisdom".

I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.

Also, I forgive you for the insults - I know you can't do any better than this.

Dullard

Noun

1. A slow or stupid person.

2. A stupid person; a fool.

OgaNightmare:

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OgaNightmare hallucinations.
Oga, the bed you occupied in that Asylum is missing you.

You just want me to expose your foolishness shey?

OK if you believe that WISDOM is relative then why have you been disturbing me over belief in Jesus?

You're claiming that wisdom is relative but at the same time you've been disturbing me to enter an argument with you over the historicity of Jesus Christ.

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

Why not just let things be after all you yourself said WISDOM is relative!

oteneaaron:

Just look at the result of all your "Wisdom".
I still repeat: Wisdom is relative.
Also, I forgive you for the insults - I know you can't do any better than this.

MaxInDHouse:
You just want me to expose your foolishness shey?

OK if you believe that WISDOM is relative then why have you been disturbing me over belief in Jesus?

You're claiming that wisdom is relative but at the same time you've been disturbing me to enter an argument with you over the historicity of Jesus Christ.

https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

Why not just let things be after all you yourself said WISDOM is relative!

MaxInDHouse, kindly explain to everyone reading this thread how I have been disturbing you to enter an argument with me about the historicity of Jesus.

What led to the debate we had exactly one year ago on this thread? - https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

I am waiting for you explain how I have been "disturbing you".

oteneaaron:


MaxInDHouse, kindly explain to everyone reading this thread how I have been disturbing you to enter an argument with me about the historicity of Jesus.

What led to the debate we had exactly one year ago on this thread? - https://www.nairaland.com/7006256/jesus-real-myth-challenge-maxindhouse

I am waiting for you explain how I have been "disturbing you".

Why add my name out of all those claiming they believe in Jesus on this forum?

You even have many supporters against JWs claiming they believe in Jesus.
So why must it be me who doesn't even want to chat with you?

MaxInDHouse:


Why add my name out of all those claiming they believe in Jesus on this forum?

You even have many supporters against JWs claiming they believe in Jesus.
So why must it be me who doesn't even want to chat with you?

Why don't you tell everyone here what led to the debate?

Did I force you to debate with me?

Did I beg you to debate with me?

Didn't you say you agreed to the debate to "humiliate" me?

MaxInDHouse:


He doesn't know what a challenge really means!

He first made this move but i ignored him since i noticed he doesn't believe in God, i knew it's going to be a time wasting.

But since he raised the issue here again and his so called friends are scared to stand up for their faith i decided to humiliate him along with his friends by demanding we do so on a fresh thread.

Today he could see for himself that it's all about things he believes against what i believe and not a research at all because he's just telling stories of what he chose to believe against the Bible nothing more!

oteneaaron:


Why don't you tell everyone here what led to the debate?

Did I force you to debate with me?

Did I beg you to debate with me?

Didn't you say you agreed to the debate to "humiliate" me?

MaxInDHouse:


He doesn't know what a challenge really means!
He first made this move but i ignored him since i noticed he doesn't believe in God, i knew it's going to be a time wasting.
But since he raised the issue here again and his so called friends are scared to stand up for their faith i decided to humiliate him along with his friends by demanding we do so on a fresh thread.
Today he could see for himself that it's all about things he believes against what i believe and not a research at all because he's just telling stories of what he chose to believe against the Bible nothing more!

Thank you for bringing this here!

So why asking only me when there are hundreds of thousands of people claiming they believe in Jesus?

Ọmọ it's like you don't know what disturb mean o!

In case you have forgotten Max.

On the 20th of February 2022, I created this thread - https://www.nairaland.com/6994962/witnesses-jehovah-documentary

As usual, you jumped on the thread to defend your CULT and I asked you these three questions -

MaxInDHouse:

Right from the moment he admitted publicly that Jesus is just a myth, i flashed back to all his arguments and i realized that he's always arguing based on the general perspective of people around him.

He always avoid anything that could restrict him from moving along with the crowd.

So it's not about faith in God, Jesus or the Bible rather his goal is to become acquaintances of people in general no matter what they believe.

Right from yesterday i have decided to restrict my discussion with him to preaching about Jesus of Nazareth now that it's clear he doesn't view Jesus as a real historical figure but just as a myth!

That is why there is something called counter-research.

I have put it to you that it is a FACT that the life and story of Jesus in the Bible is not unique.

It is a cheap copy of the life and story of similar God-men from cultures thousands of years older than the Bible.

The best you can you do is show me proof from your extensive research that shows that -

1. Jesus really existed and is not a Mythical Figure,

2. Jesus really existed based on archeological findings, and

3. The teachings of Jesus is original and not copied from HORUS of ancient Egypt and many other Christ figures like Dionysus, Bacchus, Mythiras but to mention a few.

I guess we can start from there.

Show me your well researched proof, and I will show you mine.

Can we do that instead of going back and forth with the name calling?

What do you think?

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This was your reply -

MaxInDHouse:


I love this challenge but before we proceed i want you to rephrase your questions.

Please address your questions to all those claiming CHRISTIANS so that only those coming to speak for Jesus will be known as true believers in Christ.

“Everyone, then, who acknowledges me before men, I will also acknowledge him before my Father who is in the heavens. But whoever disowns me before men, I will also disown him before my Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 10:32-33


Or

Rephrase your questions and specifically say "this is a challenge for Christians"
Romans 10:9

Thanks in advance!

This was my counter reply -

oteneaaron:


Lol.

Why are you looking for external support?

Are you doing this research for anyone else?

For me to agree to a change in the terms of this challenge, we might have to create a new thread to address this square.

But I directed this challenge at YOU.

Come to think of it, why are you involving other "Christians"?

I thought you have always called them common church goers, and have on countless occasions insulted them for their belief in a trinity?

Why do you need their support in this instance?

I would like to understand why before agreeing to these new terms.