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Identifying As Nigerian Makes No Sense Or Point, To Me by bundarina: 2:02pm On Feb 14, 2023
I don't like the country, most of the people are annoying. I'm proud of my ethnicity, that's it. My ethnicity, Yoruba, has enough historical and present day achievements so I don't feel the need to cling to a Nigerian identity or a regional one to feel good. Sure, Nigerians vibe together, but it should be more than that for you to hold onto. I get annoyed at people burying Yoruba achievements and identity under 'Nigerian'. If Nigeria was like the Uk with several sovereign nations and identities within, I would much prefer it. That's if seperating is not an alternative anytime soon. For example, Scotland is different from Northern Ireland, Wales and England. Scotland is country for the Scots Ethnicity, N.Ireland for the Irish Ethnicity who didn't join The totally seperate country of the republic of Ireland, Wales for the Welsh, England for the English. Even these countries within the UK may seperate from the UK as an entity if they vote for it, but their current aggrement is better than our shody Federalism. Emi ti so temi o.

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Re: Identifying As Nigerian Makes No Sense Or Point, To Me by AreaFada2: 5:26pm On Feb 14, 2023
Well those who defended themselves against colonisation or fought Biafra war or other agitators saw what you are seeing now.

Nobody aside the elites benefits from current Nigerian arrangement.
Imagine Yoruba is an official language along English. More cohesion and better national identity. Same in East and North.

Gradually more people will see that a forced contraption with variously intuitively tribalists people is no recipe for making a great nation.

No matter how long the elites sponsor the charade, the chicken will come home to roost one day.
Re: Identifying As Nigerian Makes No Sense Or Point, To Me by bundarina: 6:14pm On Feb 14, 2023
AreaFada2:
Well those who defended themselves against colonisation or fought Biafra war or other agitators saw what you are seeing now.

Nobody aside the elites benefits from current Nigerian arrangement.
Imagine Yoruba is an official language along English. More cohesion and better national identity. Same in East and North.

Gradually more people will see that a forced contraption with variously intuitively tribalists people is no recipe for making a great nation.

No matter how long the elites sponsor the charade, the chicken will come home to roost one day.

The problem is people think there's a problem with Tribalism. That's a problem with adopting words void of true meaning. Bigotry and prejudice is a problem, Tribalism is not. What we call Tribalism is sometimes ethnic patrotism, which is as relevant, if not more, than nationalism or country patrotism.

It should not be confused for bigotry like something like refusing to serve someone from another Ethnicity at a restaurant, something which doesn't even happen in Nigeria. The problem with Biafra is that is another Nigeria 2.0 for the South East and South South. If it was an ethnic Igbo struggle, it would have made sense. But many Ijaw, Efik, Uhrobo, etc fought against Biafra. One Ijaw general wanted something called Naija-Delta republic but was blocked and jailed by Ojukwu.

An ethnic Igbo struggle for Biafra makes more sense, Like Yoruba Nation struggle is just for a nation of Yoruba land and Yoruba descents and linages. All three languages should be official languages in Nigeria, on paper. All regions should be free to conduct politics and most media in their Language of the region.

It's good how the Yoruba have a thriving native language movie industry speaking Yoruba, the Hausas/other Northerns who speak Hausa have their own native language speaking Industry that's supported by them too. I've seen some Igbo native language films it's few and underdeveloped compared to those two above. Instead some movies that should be Igbo to captivate the essence are speaking English or Pidgin. Meanwhile we all have generally Nollywood with English that should be enough. The minorities hardly have a native language industry though we have the funds for them. I've seen some Efik language films but it's few and not a centralized industry. That's not a good phenomenon. Nigeria and the disorganizedness of it should not disorganize you and your true essence.

There's no purpose throwing what makes you special for maintaining a Nigeria. Let's not talk about the potential this forever developing nation could be with proper prioritization. The elites are the only ones enjoying this contraption and not seeing the problem. If everyone is free to organize how they feel, resources would go round better, Nigerians as a whole would even be more creative.
Re: Identifying As Nigerian Makes No Sense Or Point, To Me by Xchii: 9:51pm On Feb 14, 2023
bundarina:


The problem is people think there's a problem with Tribalism. That's a problem with adopting words void of true meaning. Bigotry and prejudice is a problem, Tribalism is not. What we call Tribalism is sometimes ethnic patrotism, which is as relevant, if not more, than nationalism or country patrotism.

It should not be confused for bigotry like something like refusing to serve someone from another Ethnicity at a restaurant, something which doesn't even happen in Nigeria. The problem with Biafra is that is another Nigeria 2.0 for the South East and South South. If it was an ethnic Igbo struggle, it would have made sense. But many Ijaw, Efik, Uhrobo, etc fought against Biafra. One Ijaw general wanted something called Naija-Delta republic but was blocked and jailed by Ojukwu.

An ethnic Igbo struggle for Biafra makes more sense, Like Yoruba Nation struggle is just for a nation of Yoruba land and Yoruba descents and linages. All three languages should be official languages in Nigeria, on paper. All regions should be free to conduct politics and most media in their Language of the region.

It's good how the Yoruba have a thriving native language movie industry speaking Yoruba, the Hausas/other Northerns who speak Hausa have their own native language speaking Industry that's supported by them too. I've seen some Igbo native language films it's few and underdeveloped compared to those two above. Instead some movies that should be Igbo to captivate the essence are speaking English or Pidgin. Meanwhile we all have generally Nollywood with English that should be enough. The minorities hardly have a native language industry though we have the funds for them. I've seen some Efik language films but it's few and not a centralized industry. That's not a good phenomenon. Nigeria and the disorganizedness of it should not disorganize you and your true essence.

There's no purpose throwing what makes you special for maintaining a Nigeria. Let's not talk about the potential this forever developing nation could be with proper prioritization. The elites are the only ones enjoying this contraption and not seeing the problem. If everyone is free to organize how they feel, resources would go round better, Nigerians as a whole would even be more creative.
One Nigeria is a scam and crime against humanity, a contraption created to destroy Yorubas.
Re: Identifying As Nigerian Makes No Sense Or Point, To Me by AreaFada2: 1:10am On Feb 15, 2023
bundarina:


The problem is people think there's a problem with Tribalism. That's a problem with adopting words void of true meaning. Bigotry and prejudice is a problem, Tribalism is not. What we call Tribalism is sometimes ethnic patrotism, which is as relevant, if not more, than nationalism or country patrotism.

It should not be confused for bigotry like something like refusing to serve someone from another Ethnicity at a restaurant, something which doesn't even happen in Nigeria. The problem with Biafra is that is another Nigeria 2.0 for the South East and South South. If it was an ethnic Igbo struggle, it would have made sense. But many Ijaw, Efik, Uhrobo, etc fought against Biafra. One Ijaw general wanted something called Naija-Delta republic but was blocked and jailed by Ojukwu.

An ethnic Igbo struggle for Biafra makes more sense, Like Yoruba Nation struggle is just for a nation of Yoruba land and Yoruba descents and linages. All three languages should be official languages in Nigeria, on paper. All regions should be free to conduct politics and most media in their Language of the region.

It's good how the Yoruba have a thriving native language movie industry speaking Yoruba, the Hausas/other Northerns who speak Hausa have their own native language speaking Industry that's supported by them too. I've seen some Igbo native language films it's few and underdeveloped compared to those two above. Instead some movies that should be Igbo to captivate the essence are speaking English or Pidgin. Meanwhile we all have generally Nollywood with English that should be enough. The minorities hardly have a native language industry though we have the funds for them. I've seen some Efik language films but it's few and not a centralized industry. That's not a good phenomenon. Nigeria and the disorganizedness of it should not disorganize you and your true essence.

There's no purpose throwing what makes you special for maintaining a Nigeria. Let's not talk about the potential this forever developing nation could be with proper prioritization. The elites are the only ones enjoying this contraption and not seeing the problem. If everyone is free to organize how they feel, resources would go round better, Nigerians as a whole would even be more creative.

Well, those that want nothing to do with other races will also call it racial patriotism. Apartheid Govt in South Africa didn't see itself as racist.

To somehow dismiss tribalism and its twin bother nepotism as it pervades the Nigerian firmament to is ignore reality.

Tribalism/nepotism and corruption are two of our biggest problems.

Nobody is saying a Yorubaman should wear Isiagwu and eat akpu and ofe Owerri/onugbu during Ileya or Osun Osogbo festival. And nobody expects Igbo to eat ewedu and amala to celebrate Ofala festival just to prove a point. grin
People should value and celebrate their culture.

No country with 200 tribes has succeeded in building a cohesive country in history. Egyptian, Persian, Roman, British Empires and all eventually collapsed. Nigeria has not made any step towards making all the tribes becoming closer. It is the last country that can make it work as it is now.

If anything, every tribe is trying to show just how different they are from another tribe. In the hope of getting more access to national cake at the centre.

That said, there still some minorities native to SW, although some SW people prefer to not see that. So even SW/Oduduwa will not be entirely homogeneous.

Before Biafra war broke out, perhaps the negotiation should have been where Biafra borders should be, not whether should exist. The war may have been prevented. A plebiscite could have determined that. All of SS was not under Biafra. Midwest/Edo/Dela were not in Biafra but are now SS. Has an average Nigerian benefited from keeping Biafra in Nigeria? Would an average be worse off now if Biafra had left?

Would an average Yorubaman be worse of if Oduduwa Republic had been declared along side Biafra? To me, Oduduwa with
Awo as president would have become a model of modernity for Africa. Biafra would be a factory supplying high tech goods to the world by now.

So right now, without proper decentralisation, collapse is inevitable. Our elites have villas in Malibu, London, Potomac, Monaco, Marbella, etc. They will flee abroad and watch the masses fight each other to a standstill and return to rule again.

Remember, part of Eastern Nigeria voted to join Cameroon before Biafra war. They are now in Cameroon.

The fact is, nobody is happy except the elites. The time will come, perhaps sooner than people think, people will be pushed too far and blow up in our faces.

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