AllenforGOD:
Ignorant punk
matt 28:19 depicts the Three as God Himself.
what God told moses in exodus 3:14 saying He's the I AM,Jesus even said so in john 8:24'58.
stop deluding your life.

tctrills:


When you insult someone you disagree with, it shows the kind of mother you had. It's ok to have different opinions and not insult.

Now to the verses you quoted

Matthew 28.19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
The clearly depicts them as 3 not 1

To the other 2 verses, I agree with you that Jesus Christ and not his father, was the I Am of the old testament.

tctrills:


When you insult someone you disagree with, it shows the kind of mother you had. It's ok to have different opinions and not insult.

Now to the verses you quoted

Matthew 28.19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
The clearly depicts them as 3 not 1

To the other 2 verses, I agree with you that Jesus Christ and not his father, was the I Am of the old testament

AllenforGOD:
john14:9

tctrills:


9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

You decide to interpret this to mean that Jesus is his own father and that is where you go wrong. The scripture only means that Jesus represents his father.
John 1:18

18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

AllenforGOD:
Ignorant punk
matt 28:19 depicts the Three as God Himself.
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AllenforGOD:


what God told moses in exodus 3:14 saying He's the I AM,Jesus even said so in john 8:24'58.
stop deluding your life.

Is Jesus Christ his own Father?

Have you forgotten your mentors @ Nicene say they are 3 persons?

In heaven Jesus was in the presence of God "I Am" his Father. John 8:28,38.

Or you mean there are two (2) "I AM" in each others presence
Your John 8:58 is TWISTING of holy scriptures.
Exodus 3:14 Hebrew is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", I will be what I will be"
John 8:28,38 dumped your John 8:58 GIBBERISH inside dustbin.

Janosky:

Mumu
Matthew 28:19, are 3 spirits one being?
Did Acts 3:13 depicts Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one being?
Is Jesus Christ his own Father?
Have you forgotten your mentors @ Nicene say they are 3 persons?
In heaven Jesus was in the presence of God "I Am" his Father. John 8:28,38.
Or you mean there are two (2) "I AM" in each others presence
Your John 8:58 is TWISTING of holy scriptures.
Exodus 3:14 Hebrew is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", I will be what I will be"
John 8:28,38 dumped your John 8:58 GIBBERISH inside dustbin.

MaxInDHouse:
Chai!
Janosky wan enter one chance between two trinitarians who are SCATTERED spiritually speaking {Luke 11:23} when both of them won't agree to learn from you.

Abeg let them settle their scores after all they both claimed they can understand their Bible without the help of Christ's anointed brothers.
We recognized them but these people don't so let them continue arguing among themselves perhaps they will agree one day so as to carry out the assignment Jesus gave his group which is going to preach, teach, making disciples and baptizing them under one umbrella as Christians.

There's one thing to be intelligent but that doesn't make people wise because the intelligent person may find his way dodging the truth with excuses and giving himself credits but when it comes to delivering the assignment given to the wise that is the time for the intelligent to know that he can't be as productive as the wise since his dodging and excuses will make him a fugitive who is always alone! James 2:18-26

tctrills:

I am happy you are beginning to see this as fun. I am obviously rubbing off on you. You are welcome.

Janosky:

Mumu
Matthew 28:19, are 3 spirits one being?

Did Acts 3:13 depicts Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one being?

Is Jesus Christ his own Father?

Have you forgotten your mentors @ Nicene say they are 3 persons?

In heaven Jesus was in the presence of God "I Am" his Father. John 8:28,38.

Or you mean there are two (2) "I AM" in each others presence
Your John 8:58 is TWISTING of holy scriptures.
Exodus 3:14 Hebrew is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", I will be what I will be"
John 8:28,38 dumped your John 8:58 GIBBERISH inside dustbin.

Janosky:
Mumu Matthew 28:19, are 3 spirits one being?
Did Acts 3:13 depicts Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as one being?
Is Jesus Christ his own Father?
Have you forgotten your mentors @ Nicene say they are 3 persons?
In heaven Jesus was in the presence of God "I Am" his Father. John 8:28,38.
Or you mean there are two (2) "I AM" in each others presence Your John 8:58 is TWISTING of holy scriptures. Exodus 3:14 Hebrew is "Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh", I will be what I will be" John 8:28,38 dumped your John 8:58 GIBBERISH inside dustbin.

MaxInDHouse:

I only used the medium to call my brother in faith away from your showdown with your neighbour.
So continue your fun!

Steep:
Ehyer Asher Ehyeh can also be interpreted as I AM that I AM

tctrills:


When you insult someone you disagree with, it shows the kind of mother you had. It's ok to have different opinions and not insult.

Now to the verses you quoted

Matthew 28.19. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
The clearly depicts them as 3 not 1

To the other 2 verses, I agree with you that Jesus Christ and not his father, was the I Am of the old testament.

Janosky:


Hebrew language does NOT have present tense,

Judaism says Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh" (screenshot) meaning
"I will be what I will be" is their interpretation of Exodus 3:14 .

What do you make of Exodus 3:14-16, Acts 3:13, John 7:16 & John 8:38,58?

Exodus 3:14-16, John 7:16, John 8:38,58 & John 3:16 Jesus the God (ho Theos) of Abraham who sent Moses to the Israelites?

Acts 3:13 & Exodus 3:14-16, ,Is Jsesus Christ the God (ho Theos) of Abraham?

Janosky:


Exodus 3:14-16 ,Acts 3:13 & , did Jesus send Moses to the Israelites?
John 7:16, did Jesus send himself to the Israelites?
Exodus 3:14-16 ,Acts 3:13 & John 7:16, will you receive sense?

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tctrills:

Now let's read the verses you mentioned
Exodus 3:14-16

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

16 Go, and gather the elders of Israel together, and say unto them, The Lord God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob, appeared unto me, saying, I have surely visited you, and seen that which is done to you in Egypt:

13 The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus; whom ye delivered up, and denied him in the presence of Pilate, when he was determined to let him go.

Now don't the scriptures you quoted make it super clear to you that both Jesus Christ (I Am) and his father are the God of Abraham, of Isaac, and of Jacob?

Peter the apostle taught by Jesus, what did Peter say about Jesus Christ @ Acts 3:13.

Exodus 3:14-16 = Acts 3:13.

The God ( ho Theos) of Abraham sent Moses @Exodus 3:14-16 and also the God ( the same ho Theos of Abraham) sent Jesus Christ @ Acts3:13.

Have you forgotten that Hebrew language does NOT recognize present tense?
I am is NOT Hebrew Exodus 3:14.
Hebrew Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh meaning " I will be what I will be"
Oga Tc,you love deceiving yourself

tctrills:


To the next verse, John 7:16

16 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
We both agree that Jesus Christ (I Am) has a Father so what's your point here?

Not one of these verses shows or tells that Jesus Christ (Jehovah) is not God. The Bible, both the old and the new testament call him God.

Steep:

"Asher Ehyen" is a general verb used to describe being in Hebrew.
It is used for past , present and future,

Jesus use of "I AM" is the same way yahweh used to describe himself in Exodus 3 vv 14.

tctrills:


You seem not to be getting it. No one said that the Father was not the God of Abraham and co but the bible makes us understand that Jesus Christ was all that too

tctrills:

Again you are wrong. I Am as used in Exodus is a noun. Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. I Am is clearly used as a name.

The Tetragramatton YHWH is @ Exodus 3:15-16, NOT "I am" at Exodus 3:14.


Exodus 3:15 YHWH is my name from generation to generation", Oga check am nau

Your mentors of Trinity made the FALSE claim you parrot again.

Janosky:


There is NO "I am" in Hebrew language.
The Greek Bible translators used the Greek language "I am" expression to convey the Hebrew Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh as best they could.
In the same manner, that some individuals prefer speaking their native tongue to make a statement which no word for word statement could express in English.
Exodus 3:4, Moses says I am.
Isaiah 6:8, Isaiah says "I am."

More so, Acts 3:13 , John 7:16 & Isaiah 6:8 has given the proper clarity of Exodus 3:14-16.
Have you forgotten that Jesus PROVEN that Revelation 3:12 is the trend in the spiritual realm?

Janosky:


Greek ego eimi is different from Hebrew language Ehyeh Asher Ehyeh (screenshot evidence).
" I will BE who/what I will be" correct rendition.
"I AM", not Hebrew language, the evidence of biblehub, Trinitarian believers.

There is no ego eimi at Exodus 3:14.



The Tetragramatton YHWH is @ Exodus 3:15-16, NOT "I am" at Exodus 3:14.


Exodus 3:15 YHWH is my name from generation to generation", Oga check am nau

Your mentors of Trinity made the FALSE claim you parrot again.

tctrills:


Oga what if I also quote sholars to show you are wrong would that settle it?
But I don't need to even quote Hebrew scholars because the verse explains itself.

And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

Did you not read the ending phrase? Say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

I Am is clearly used as a name and noun in this sense hence your explanation can't be correct

Steep:
Did you not see the verb "be" there

Go and check the meaning of verb "to be"

Simple question:

Oga,Is the verb " to be" (Ehyeh) present tense?
Forget what your Trinitarian mentors told you.
For once,be honest on this forum.

Your opinion can NOT change what the Jews believe screenshots evidences PROVEN here).

The Jews says the appropriate rendition is:
" I will be what/who I will be".


The only reason Christendom stuck to your claim is because of their desperation to DUBIOUSLY link Exodus 3:14 & John 8:58, even though John 8:23-26,38 , Jesus Christ contradicts Christendom's claim.

John 7:16 & Acts3:13, did Jesus & Peter agree with Christendom's interpretation of Exodus 3:14-16?
No !

Janosky:


That is the claim of Trinitarians.

The disciples taught by Jesus Christ NEVER said that.

Acts 3:13, John 9:4 & John 7:16 = Exodus 3:14-16.

They saw themselves as servants of the true God.
Nothing else.

Janosky:

Simple question:

Oga,Is the verb " to be" (Ehyeh) present tense?
Forget what your Trinitarian mentors told you.
For once,be honest on this forum.

Your opinion can NOT change what the Jews believe screenshots evidences PROVEN here).

The Jews says the appropriate rendition is:
" I will be what/who I will be".


The only reason Christendom stuck to your claim is because of their desperation to DUBIOUSLY link Exodus 3:14 & John 8:58, even though John 8:23-26,38 , Jesus Christ contradicts Christendom's claim.

John 7:16 & Acts3:13, did Jesus & Peter agree with Christendom's interpretation of Exodus 3:14-16?
No !

Janosky:


That is the claim of Trinitarians.

The disciples taught by Jesus Christ NEVER said that.

Acts 3:13, John 9:4 & John 7:16 = Exodus 3:14-16.

They saw themselves as servants of the true God.
Nothing else.