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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 12:33pm On Mar 05, 2023

lomprico:

It's in the old testament

Circumcision is in the old testament
Why do 100% of Nigerians circumcise their children
No doubt if you have children they are circumcised

Why??

TITHING is in the old testament

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by brainhgeek(m): 12:42pm On Mar 05, 2023

TechCapon:
Yes, it is a very big sin. When a woman is unclean, the Bible says that she should isolate herself from the congregation.

"`When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. "`Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. - Leviticus 15: 19-33

May I ask if a menstruating but righteous woman will be raptured? If you say 'yes' then I think you have to rethink your position on this claim. To.me, mensuration is not a sin. It was part of God's design and purpose for humanity through womanity.

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 12:43pm On Mar 05, 2023

brainhgeek:

May I ask if a menstruating but righteous woman will be raptured? If you say 'yes' then I think you have to rethink your position on this claim. To.me, mensuration is not a sin. It was part of God's design and purpose for humanity through womanity.

is it righteous if one fails to pay Tithes?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by djseanjohn77: 12:46pm On Mar 05, 2023

omolola100:
Good evening my brothers and sisters
There is something I still don't understand and I need a clear and better explanation.

I attend a white garment church and the doctrine does not allow us to sit with the congregation because of the stain, there is a place packaged for us to sit and the corner of the church....
The issue right now is that my menstruation started last week Sunday and I don't know why it hasn't stop till this present moment.
I'm just thinking if I should go to church tomorrow because I don't want to sit at the corner of the church tomorrow because people might be suspicious something is wrong with me.
I haven't seen anything about this in the scripture, I just want to know if it's a sin to sit with the congregation while on period...

As much as everyone have the liberty to say whatever they like, ignorance is when you refuse to understand why people do certain things, and instead result to cursing or attributing all sorts just because of what your gods in altars have told you is ridiculous.

We believe we serve a living and unchangeable God, no matter what, He will remain the same, and nothing about him ever changes.

I WILL ONLY USE THE DIRECT INSTRUCTIONS OF GOD AS TOUCHING WHAT YOU ASK AS A REFERENCE WITHOUT ANY INPUT PERSONALLY.

And we cannot argue that he specifically gave these instructions in the bible to the Israelites.
God speaking in Lev 15:1-2
15 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When any man has an unusual bodily discharge, such a discharge is unclean.

Leviticus 15:19-23
‘When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. Anyone who touches her bed shall wash his clothes and bathe in water and be unclean until evening.

Ezekiel 18:5-6
“But if a man is righteous and practices justice and righteousness, and does not eat at the mountain shrines or lift up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, or defile his neighbor’s wife or approach a woman during her menstrual period

Ezekiel 36:17
Verse Concepts
“Son of man, when the house of Israel was living in their own land, they defiled it by their ways and their deeds; their way before Me was like the uncleanness of a woman in her impurity.

WHAT JESUS SAID ACCORDING TO THE LAW OF GOD

Mat 5: 17 - 21
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

THE CONDITION TO SET ASIDE ONE IS STATED

20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

John 4:34
Jesus explained, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me and to finish His work.

MY TAKE -
You will understand that God does not joke with uncleanliness and discharge, that's why he specifically gives instructions when a man tries to approach Him.

The processional hymn of celestial states; Hymn 1,2,3: 1. The angels of angels full of joy in heaven - 2. Kindle the light, holy from heaven above -3. Oh come unto the Lord, oh come unto the Lord
Then the pledge - Oh Christ o my King, I will worship thee, my power and my light holy thou holiest.

The above explains how we approach Christ while at the entrance to sanctify us with His light while He presents us before the Father (The Father is Holy, no uncleanliness comes closer, hence Jesus is the mediator whom we have acknowledged as our King and savior.

Revelation 3:4
But you do have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their garments, and because they are worthy, they will walk with Me in white.

Revelation 5:6
Then I saw a Lamb who appeared to have been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which represent the seven Spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Rev 8: 3 Then another angel, who had a golden censer, came and stood at the altar. He was given much incense to offer, along with the prayers of all the saints, on the golden altar before the throne.
4 And the smoke of the incense, together with the prayers of the saints, rose up before God from the hand of the angel.

EVEN ISAIAH AS A PROPHET - Had to be sanctified
Isaiah 6:5 Then I said: “Woe is me, for I am ruined, because I am a man of unclean lips dwelling among a people of unclean lips; for my eyes have seen the King, the LORD of Hosts.”
6 Then one of the seraphim flew to me, and in his hand was a glowing coal that he had taken with tongs from the altar. 7And with it he touched my mouth and said: “Now that this has touched your lips, your iniquity is removed and your sin is atoned for.”

JESUS WHEN TOUCHED BY THE WOMAN WITH THE ISSUE OF BLOOD KNOWS SOMETHING LEFT HIM HENCE THE EXCLAMATION

Luke 8: 45 And Jesus said, Who touched me? When all denied, Peter and they that were with him said, Master, the multitude throng thee and press thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?

46 And Jesus said, Somebody hath touched me: for I perceive that virtue is gone out of me.

(Note please, reading from 30, you will see that he was in the midst of many, and many were touching him and were receiving miracles as their faith would permit, but immediately she touched him, he felt something different.

Exodus 19:10-15
And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, and be ready against the third day: for the third day, the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

NOW, IS THE ISSUE A SIN? NO
The Issue of blood remains a sign of the curse God place on the woman GENESIS 3: 16 - Note also that the death on the cross did not take away the sign of the curse but the guilt of the curse so that we might appear blameless before the Father.
Based on the above, celestial was instructed by God not o appear before him in your blood, not to remind Him of the anger and curse He placed on man. God does not forget our sins, He chooses through Christ not to remember them, as long as the mediator is before us, we are set right before Him.

Galatians 3:24
So the law became our guardian to lead us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

HEBREWS 10: 16“This is the covenant I will make with them after those days, declares the Lord. I will put My LAWS in their hearts and inscribe them on their minds.” 17Then He adds: “Their sins and LAWLESS acts I will remember no more.” 18And where these have been forgiven, an offering for sin is no longer needed

And according to this Hebrew, God's law, no exclusion (according to Jesus' words in Mat 5:17) has been inscribed in our heart, and through the Grace we now receive through HIS blood, we appear blameless before HIM, irrespective of our sins, or what man says. For we are not justified through works, but by FAITH.
Hebrews 8:12
For I will forgive their iniquities and will remember their sins no more."

Hebrews 10:18
And where these have been forgiven, an offering for sin is no longer needed.

Hence in almost all of our forgiveness hymns, we address to Christ, and we seek His power and grace to overcome sin
Hymn 11 e.g
Jesus here we come, with our uncleanness, forgive us our sin and bless us, gracious Lord
miserable we are, King of divine light, and glorify us Lord.

Hence why the whole world see us as of the devil, judging us for who we are (just as Christ said to the people that were about to stone the prostitute), we are helpless and filthy, we only look up to Christ for redemption, for by work no man will be saved.

Heb 12:14 Pursue peace with everyone, as well as holiness, without which no one will see the Lord. 15 See to it that no one falls short of the grace of God, and that no root of bitterness springs up to cause trouble and defile many.

Gal 2: 16 know that a man is not justified by works of the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ. So we, too, have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

Halleluyah!

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by LilMissFavvy(f): 12:49pm On Mar 05, 2023

Hearburns are gone cheesy

. I had it probably due to poor eating habits. Continue to practice your witchraft', but you can't stop us from speaking out. God**"punish you very well if you are one of those wizards' exploiting the church of God, practicing witchraft and using Bible to cover up. Is that what Apostle Paul taught you? Is one supposed to sacrifice animals, or draw chalk on the floor with eggs, or mix concoction? You think I have not been to a white garment church before, you sick in the brain.

Streett:

Calm down! ..Witch still dey press press You for Night shey You know?
You wake up begin run tongue anyhow, You wan add more Loop holes for Your body to WELCOME more HOST ba ..??

…Why aimlessly ignorantly dabbling into what You have no understanding of … Belittling People’s Religion , Tribe & way of Life Jus to make Yours Look Warm & welcoming?

Is this what Your own Christian Life is all about? Judging and talking down on others? ..

You reek of sheer HYPOCRISY, shame on You ..
Go fix Your Life , Nairaland won’t validate Your existence..

Heartburn dey slowly kill You , try find solution for that wan…
And You never even start self, E go still enter Spontaneous Heart Palpitations, Lung & Spleen burn If You no fix Your dunce mentality towards Life in General.

Respect folks Religion, Tribe & way of Life…. It doesn’t make Yours look bad , E no jus hard

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by DeePsalmuel: 1:01pm On Mar 05, 2023

TechCapon:
Yes, it is a very big sin. When a woman is unclean, the Bible says that she should isolate herself from the congregation.

"`When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. "`Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. - Leviticus 15: 19-33

So if she touches the bible too, the bible will be unclean.

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Youngsage: 1:07pm On Mar 05, 2023

Bigjoyce:

If it is Celestial church of Christ,then it is our doctrine as female members of CCC worldwide to remain at home while on menstruation,the grace of God is sufficient for us during this period,so don't make the church unclean,when you have not even stopped, you'll still have to give your self some extra days after the flow to ensure that you are completely clean before going to the church with clean clothes that will not be touched by you because you're still unclean,and then with your candle and sponge and soap, you'll be prayed for and then you bathe and become clean and be able to worship in the congregation of celestians......me I'm not going to church because I'm on and the flow increased because I was robbed and heavily assaulted last week on my way from work.Still recuperating though,[God of SBJ oshoffa bless you sis.

If you cannot back up your doctrine with what Jesus Christ established than the doctrine is a fallacy from the pit of hell unfortunately. A lot of people have been indoctrinated wrongly in this way all in the name of serving God. Then they eventually end up serving what they don't know.

Who is the God of SBJ Oshoffa? SBJ Oshoffa has his personal God? If it is his own God and not the God who sent Jesus Christ to this world then why pray to it?? This is the height of it all. You need to be emancipated as soon as possible undecided

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Youngsage: 1:10pm On Mar 05, 2023

ENGBOS:
If you know you can't follow the rules why are you in the church,celestial is a church filled with holy spirit these are the sacrifices that must made to keep abounding,if you don't keep rules you let the spirit leave the church,all rules have a reason

Who created the rules

Definitely not God not the Holy Spirit. Show me where Jesus or his disciples burned candles in the Bible undecided

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 1:10pm On Mar 05, 2023

Youngsage:

Who created the rules Definitely not God not the Holy Spirit. Show me where Jesus or his disciples burned candles in the Bible

Show me where he collected tithes

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Youngsage: 1:13pm On Mar 05, 2023

0monnak0da:

Show me where he collected tithes

He never did as well, or did I mention anything of such

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by HOSTCOM(m): 1:15pm On Mar 05, 2023

See as this one dey talk. Shey the church no read Dem doctrine to you when you join ni? So why you con come here and start talking as if na by force Dem take hold u there? You better check yourself.

omolola100:
Good evening my brothers and sisters
There is something I still don't understand and I need a clear and better explanation.

I attend a white garment church and the doctrine does not allow us to sit with the congregation because of the stain, there is a place packaged for us to sit and the corner of the church....
The issue right now is that my menstruation started last week Sunday and I don't know why it hasn't stop till this present moment.
I'm just thinking if I should go to church tomorrow because I don't want to sit at the corner of the church tomorrow because people might be suspicious something is wrong with me.
I haven't seen anything about this in the scripture, I just want to know if it's a sin to sit with the congregation while on period...

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Bigjoyce: 1:19pm On Mar 05, 2023

Youngsage:

If you cannot back up your doctrine with what Jesus Christ established than the doctrine is a fallacy from the pit of hell unfortunately. A lot of people have been indoctrinated wrongly in this way all in the name of serving God. Then they eventually end up serving what they don't know.

Who is the God of SBJ Oshoffa? SBJ Oshoffa has his personal God? If it is his own God and not the God who sent Jesus Christ to this world then why pray to it?? This is the height of it all. You need to be emancipated as soon as possible

I didn't say any wrong thing,you wouldn't have said anything if I had said God if Abraham...or are you not guilty of that too

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 1:23pm On Mar 05, 2023

Youngsage:

He never did as well, or did I mention anything of such!

I never said you did did I It is a rhetorical question
The point is what he did or did not do is not necessarily an absolute guide to what people should do today or not do
He never. Sent e-mails anywhere in the bible so asking for examples of him doing or not doing a thing is specious
That he did not do a thing does not mean God did not create or created the rule
That is a fallacious inference

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Zaphnath1(m): 1:24pm On Mar 05, 2023

UgoFly:
Peace be to you my dear sister. Your church must be Community of Yahweh (Sabbath) cos they are the people that strictly adhere to Jewish customs/Mosaic laws. The only difference is that they believe in Jesus or so they claim. However, you must know that Jesus is love. He came on earth to show us grace that supersedes law. This your question was answered when the woman with the issue of blood touched his garment and obtained healing. Under the Jewish customs, she was ceremonially unclean. This means she was not supposed to even be in a gathering of people or even come near the "ultra clean" Jesus. Imagine the shock on people's face when a woman of such nature even got close enough to touch a Rabbi and instead of the Rabbi to rebuke her, He praised her for her faith. Jesus Christ has called us to His love and wants a personal relationship with us deviod of religious sentiments and laws. He would never keep you apart cos of your menstrual flow. If a woman with a flow for 12 years i.e 12 years of being unclean in the sight of men could be described as having a powerful faith in God and got her miracle then nothing should stop you from holding on to Jesus Christ. Nobody should make you feel less of yourself. Christ loves you.

bro you really answered it well you opened my eyes to a new thing today thanks bro

SHALOM

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by JoyousFurnitire(m): 1:27pm On Mar 05, 2023

UgoFly:
Peace be to you my dear sister. Your church must be Community of Yahweh (Sabbath) cos they are the people that strictly adhere to Jewish customs/Mosaic laws. The only difference is that they believe in Jesus or so they claim. However, you must know that Jesus is love. He came on earth to show us grace that supersedes law. This your question was answered when the woman with the issue of blood touched his garment and obtained healing. Under the Jewish customs, she was ceremonially unclean. This means she was not supposed to even be in a gathering of people or even come near the "ultra clean" Jesus. Imagine the shock on people's face when a woman of such nature even got close enough to touch a Rabbi and instead of the Rabbi to rebuke her, He praised her for her faith. Jesus Christ has called us to His love and wants a personal relationship with us deviod of religious sentiments and laws. He would never keep you apart cos of your menstrual flow. If a woman with a flow for 12 years i.e 12 years of being unclean in the sight of men could be described as having a powerful faith in God and got her miracle then nothing should stop you from holding on to Jesus Christ. Nobody should make you feel less of yourself. Christ loves you.

Beautiful submission.

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by alabo1: 1:35pm On Mar 05, 2023

TechCapon:
Yes, it is a very big sin. When a woman is unclean, the Bible says that she should isolate herself from the congregation.

"`When a woman has her regular flow of blood, the impurity of her monthly period will last seven days, and anyone who touches her will be unclean till evening. "`Anything she lies on during her period will be unclean, and anything she sits on will be unclean. - Leviticus 15: 19-33

Rubbish. Absolute Rubbish. Menstruation is a natural part of every mammals physiology and is not restricted to humans alone. These bullshit passages were written by men who had an aversion to the monthly flow. Most men even in the present age do. believe these junk if you will. for me no woman is unclean because she is on her period. Peace

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by sylve11: 1:37pm On Mar 05, 2023

Kobojunkie:
All of your churches beginning with the Catholic mother church do exactly that. All of your pastors, mogs, prophets, popes, priests, bishops, etc., are all implicated. So I do hope you realize you haven't removed the Boulder sticking out from your eye in this.

Leave that thing let it be saying nonsense there. embarassed

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by sylve11: 1:40pm On Mar 05, 2023

chatinent:

Ha. This was too blunt tho. It's not like all you listed cannot be found in all churches. Why make it look like hers is the original wrong?

Una go just hear rumour about a church and believe it...even recruit others to believe the rumour with you. You've not been to the church yet you speak with conviction that it could be the church doing her.

If na by rumour, you'll only need to mention your church and begin to hear and see the unbelievable.

Omo, make we learn to remove selling blames induced by rumour sha

That's what they know how to do best. cool

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Darnell9(m): 1:50pm On Mar 05, 2023

geoworldedu:
Yes. Mary was in her period when the Holy Spirit first lusted after her. Women in their menstrual periods entice the Holy Spirit a lot. He rapes them immediately after their periods.

geoworldedu:
Yes. Mary was in her period when the Holy Spirit first lusted after her. Women in their menstrual periods entice the Holy Spirit a lot. He rapes them immediately after their periods.

Hahh! Bros you sure?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Youngsage: 1:51pm On Mar 05, 2023

Bigjoyce:

I didn't say any wrong thing,you wouldn't have said anything if I had said God if Abraham...or are you not guilty of that too

Can you back up your church doctrine with scriptural references as instituted by Jesus Christ? Don't confuse doctrine of MAN for that which is from Christ.

The "God of , Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" is a recurring biblical theme and the origin is the convenant God himself made with Abraham. Which is entirely different and opposite to what you said. I can not be guilty unless quoting scripture has become a crime.

Who is SBJ and who is the God of SBJ

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Necessity1: 1:52pm On Mar 05, 2023

It is not a sin. Jesus Christ came tore the veil so that everyone would have access to God anytime and in any situation/condition that is why lepers are also allowed to enter the church just like any other person

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by Chetas81(m): 2:03pm On Mar 05, 2023

Kobojunkie:
If you don't start now working towards getting your brain back from the doctrines and traditions of men — religion— you will likely not get it back ever again! Mind you, God never gave men religion to follow. So, you will never find God asking any man to follow religion in scripture.

hhhhhhhmmmmm you need champagne

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by olamoses75(m): 2:16pm On Mar 05, 2023

omolola100:
Good evening my brothers and sisters
There is something I still don't understand and I need a clear and better explanation.

I attend a white garment church and the doctrine does not allow us to sit with the congregation because of the stain, there is a place packaged for us to sit and the corner of the church....
The issue right now is that my menstruation started last week Sunday and I don't know why it hasn't stop till this present moment.
I'm just thinking if I should go to church tomorrow because I don't want to sit at the corner of the church tomorrow because people might be suspicious something is wrong with me.
I haven't seen anything about this in the scripture, I just want to know if it's a sin to sit with the congregation while on period...

I want to believe that you start attending white garment church basically because of miracle, because I don’t want to believe that you’re a real member of the church. No real C&S or CCC member will bring a dumb topic as this concerning his/her church into public domain like this. Every churches have their methods of service and liturgies. If you’re not ok with the practice, then look for another church , instead of staining our white garments. Though most C&S churches don’t practice such anymore, my church inclusive, due to doctrine reviews, but we can’t deny that it’s our culture from the beginning of time. Probably because we deals with white stuffs. I just pity those brainwashed people splitting trash here. Jesus said; “And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven” MATHEW 12:31. I’m proudly Cherubim!

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Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 2:19pm On Mar 05, 2023

Necessity1:
It is not a sin. Jesus Christ came tore the veil so that everyone would have access to God anytime and in any situation/condition that is why lepers are also allowed to enter the church just like any other person

Are you circumcised?
Have you.or will you circumcise your children?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by brainhgeek(m): 2:34pm On Mar 05, 2023

0monnak0da:
is it righteous if one fails to pay Tithes?

Tithes are not paid. They are given. Is it righteous to be a giver?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by lomprico(m): 2:36pm On Mar 05, 2023

0monnak0da:

Circumcision is in the old testament
Why do 100% of Nigerians circumcise their children
No doubt if you have children they are circumcised

Why??

TITHING is in the old testament

I don't understand where you are driving at. You asked if it was scriptural to secluded menstruating women and my response affirmed it.

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 2:37pm On Mar 05, 2023

lomprico:

I don't understand where you are driving at. She asked if it was scriptural to secluded menstruating women and my response affirmed it.

What I am.driving at is unambiguous
Are Christians required to be circumcised by their scripture
Yes or no?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by lomprico(m): 2:38pm On Mar 05, 2023

0monnak0da:

What I am.driving at is unambiguous
Are Christians required to be circumcised by their scripture
Yes or no?

Open another thread about it and you will get your reply.

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 2:41pm On Mar 05, 2023

brainhgeek:

Tithes are not paid. They are given. Is it righteous to be a giver?

Is it righteous if one fails or refuses to "give" tithes?I
I am not concerned here with giving but Not giving or refusing to give
Is that righteous?

Re: Is It A Sin To Sit With The Congregation While On Menstruation? by 0monnak0da: 2:43pm On Mar 05, 2023

lomprico:

Open another thread about it and you will get your reply.

In short you Do Not know or refuse to answer
A simple yes or no does not require another thread
The typical dishonesty that we have come to expect on full display
Clever by half you are clever enough to say given not paid but won't answer
Yes or no

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