kkins25:

Igbo and Hausa people sha need to do better...

Quite insightful.

Reason for your last sentence, please?

kkins25:
But what came first though, and which influenced which. Did biology cause the culture to act in such a way? Well, we can't really say, since, again, women were making the babies. So, biology influenced men who then formed cultures that then influenced women? shocked shocked Did men form all the cultures themselves? Common, she's giving men too much credit.

How in the world could biology be the cause of the cultural myths adopted in this case?

Kobojunkie:
How in the world could biology be the cause of the cultural myths adopted in this case?

Its funny you asked. I initially wrote a longer piece about an invertebrate, a memeber of the platyhelminthes phylum. I can deduce the origins of Gender roles from merely looking at the wild life around me. I would come back to this or open a thread.

kkins25:
Its funny you asked. I initially wrote a longer piece about an invertebrate, a memeber of the platyhelminthes phylum. I can deduce the origins of Gender roles from merely looking at the wild life around me. I would come back to this or open a thread.

I didn't ask you to mansplain as the question is really simple and straightforward.

Kobojunkie:
I didn't ask you to mansplain as the question is really simple and straightforward.

Patience tiger. Don't allow the feminine vibes slip out huh😉😉😉

,,

Kobojunkie:
Social sponges: Gendered brain development comes from society, not biology
After debunking many myths around male and female brains, Gina Rippon’s research interests now include gender gaps in science and why they persist, even in allegedly gender-equal societies.


Gina Rippon was a paid-up member of the “male-female brain brigade” earlier in her career as a cognitive neuroscientist, but changed tack, she says, after discovering there was not a lot of sound research behind the well-established belief that male and female brains are biologically different.

In the fourth episode of this 12-part podcast series Tales from the Synapse, Rippon explores the role of social conditioning to explain why boys and girls might respond differently to pink and blue objects, why girls aged nine describe maths “as a boy thing,” and why the same girls shun games that are aimed at children “who work really, really hard.”

Rippon, Professor Emeritus of cognitive neuroimaging at Aston University in Birmingham, UK and author of the 2019 book The Gendered Brain , is also interested in why women continue to be under-represented in science even in countries that purport to be gender-equal.

Her forthcoming second book investigates why girls and women on the autism spectrum have historically been overlooked. Viewing the condition through a gendered lens hampers our understanding of it, she argues.

Tales of the Synapse, a podcast series with a focus on brain science, is produced in partnership with Nature Neuroscience and introduced by Jean Mary Zarate, a senior editor at the journal. The series features brain scientists from all over the world who talk about their career journeys, collaborations and the societal impact of their research.

doi: https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-023-00738-2

TRANSCRIPT

Why, in nations that purport to be gender-equal, are women still under-represented in science? Cognitive neuroscientist Gina Rippon offers some insights based on her research.
Jean Mary Zarate: 00:04

Hello and welcome to Tales From the Synapse a podcast brought to you by Nature Careers in partnership with Nature Neuroscience. I'm Jean Mary Zarate, a senior editor at the journal Nature Neuroscience. And in this series, we speak to brain scientists from all over the world about their life, their research, their collaborations, and the impact of their work.

In episode four, we delve into gender differences and meet a researcher who spent her career both discovering and debunking theories about the male and female brain.

Gina Rippon: 00:41

My name is Gina Rippon, and I’m Professor Emeritus of cognitive neuroimaging at Aston University in Birmingham, UK. And I’m a cognitive neuroscientist by trade. And I use a lot of brain imaging techniques to try and discover the relationship between the way in which the brain is working and unusual behaviour. So I’m very interested in developmental disorders, such as autism. And I’m also interested in how brains get to be different. So not how all brains are the same, but really, what makes different people behave differently? And as a consequence of that, almost invariably, once you start talking about brain differences, you get drawn into the issue of whether or not there is such a thing as a male brain and a female brain.

Spending some time reviewing the research evidence for the notion that there is such a thing as a female brain, or such thing as a male brain, I discovered that actually, this well-established belief that there are two different kinds of brains doesn't have a lot of sound research behind it. So I got drawn into the whole issue of where differences come from in terms of if we look at gender gaps in the world, for example. And if there’s no evidence that there is such a thing as a male brain or a female brain, where do these differences come from?

And it linked with the work that I’ve been doing, sort of 21st-century approach to the brain, new findings about how the brain works and how the brain interacts with the outside world, and how the outside world has much more of a profound impression on the brain than we ever realized. And I started looking at the influences in the outside world, which might have led to the differences we see in gender gaps, for example, and what people believe, you know, well-established differences between males and females.

So the book got to be called The Gendered Brain, because it was really the idea that if there are gendered influences in the outside world, and I would suggest that there are, then these would have differential effects on developing brains. And it is those gendered influences that I think we should be paying a lot of attention to in trying to understand gender gaps, rather than assuming that these gender gaps have come from some essential (in the biological sense of the word) difference between males and females.

Gina Rippon: 03:21

I’ve always, apparently, been really fascinated by the brain. Even obviously, before I really knew what it was I’d obviously somehow got a hold of the idea of this particular part of the body, which was very important.

And there are stories that I used to trapan my teddy bears’ heads to see if they had brains. As I said, I’m not sure this isn't a family myth.

But somehow I thought the brain is really interesting. And that's what I want to do with my life. I was originally going to do medicine. For various reasons, I kind of got diverted into doing psychology.

But it was the kind of psychology which at that point was the beginnings of neuroscience, when I was interested in any aspect of behaviour which had some kind of biological underpinnings, and what the research was associated with that.

So that’s how I got into neuroscience. And my early interest in male and female brains, I have to confess, is because I was firmly signed up to the idea that there were differences between male and female brains....https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00738-2

Wow
Humans are not robots sha or common animals
There is something that makes them different

Once again wow
I couldnt even read much
I got irritated

Kobojunkie:
I didn't ask you to mansplain as the question is really simple and straightforward.

sounding like a regurgitating machine already.


*spits

crystalmoon:
can we speak offline
I used to believe that male and female brains are different and wired differently but seeing this superior argument and evidence I have want to understand better

stop being stup*d.

There's nothing superior in this trash.


It's all garbage and propaganda. Male and female brains are wired differently.

So, i took a little bit of reading of the books summarry, and i am more inclined to suspect political motivations behind this book.

There is no way Culture shaped the entirety of the brain. Because, she can't explain the same in the case of animals. All politics, no empirical science.

vastolord4:


Like I literally told my wife that my kids no matter the gender interswitch their duties in the house.. In the world of today, no gender is subdued to a particular job or role eg midwifery, transportation, even robbers have female gangleaders..

As good as this is, there are roles more suitable to each gender.

We are to improve on what has been established by our predecessors, not to rebel against them.

There's a reason God created men as male. And Women as female.
While an evolved man/woman is in touch with both their masculine and feminine sides, it's important we recognise the difference albeit as little as it may be.